hooligans vfr 800

[wackyrider]

All good things take time.

Look at my CB, engine has been in pieces for over 2yrs. haha

[The Phantom]

I found that 530 chain... $100 plus postage if you want it. It goes on ebay otherwise, I'm definitely not going to use it. There's a bit of dust on the enamel (stuck to the wax coating), it's in perfect unused condition.

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[hooligan]

Ebay it - i went with ford citric acid, so kinda green wheels and a yellow chain would be odd.

[hooligan]

picking it up tomorrow.

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[BOBBY]

Can't put my finger on what that reminds me of. It's a factory bike but it escapes me.

Every time I look at this bike I get a case of fomo. Must get my bike going again.

[Gix11]

Shit yea, I like that. It works really well mate. Well done. I'm not sure whether the twisted pipe stands out too much though. At first glance I didn't really take any note of it, but now looking again, it's ALL I see. If that was the plan then - it's working! If not, have you considered making it black so it doesn't shout so much?

[The Phantom]

I like the weirdness of the pipe loop, in fact I'd probably ceramic coat the rest of the exhaust system to match it :)

[hooligan]

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So i rode it home. New tyres and new suspension make it handle very, very well. Really sharp.
However, it overheated riding home. 110kph on the freeway, the temp dropped nicely, so going fast, enough air through the rad which makes sense since i did a trackday on it and it sat at 200+kph and 100* all day.
Between 90 and 110kph, temps will hold.
Under 90, temps rise. So bumper to bumper traffic in 30* heat wasn't very good.

While it was at troopers i bought an MT03 radiator scoop to help force air through the rad at lower speeds. I also have some body panels off a few bikes to help make a low pressure area behind the rad to help suck air through. I'll also get a low temp fan switch (from a nissan) that switches the fan on at 85 instead of 95, and may add some more tiny jaycar fans

Si, i haven't thought too much about any extra paint - i just want to ride the motherfucker for a while. I kinda like the weirdness of it too. No baffle in the can, but the extra loop helps quieten it down a bit. I love being able to hear the GDC.

And for people who haven't read the whole thread...
2000 vfr
delkevic headers, custom link pipe and Akra MT09 can
Stick coils from a cbr1000
2 x shorter velocity stacks from a 2002 model, pipercross air filter
04/05 gsxr600 forks and yokes, anodised/painted black, uprated springs, etc.
03 gsxr 1000 brake calipers, pad per piston
zx10 and zx14 radial MC's, ex creations reservoirs
rear MC off a gsxr, ex creations res.
CBR929 rear shock, resprung/revalved
Ducati 848/1098s wheels, gsxr 320mm rotors and a custom made 45T ex creations sprocket
ninja 250 seat and subframe
er6n headlight mounted off the yokes on brackets by me
the little screen is the peak from my old AGV dual sport helmet
custom sized ex creations risers with driven bars.

[wackyrider]

I love this bike

[GammaBoy]

Have you seen the trick where you use an extra set of stacks and make a set of yoshimura style dual stage stacks? Bloke on the VFR forum did it, got best of both worlds - the top end of 4 short stacks, the midrange/bottom end of 4 longer stacks...

What's the rad? TL1000 upper only? I reckon it needs some more rad area to help keep it cool sub 100kmh.

[hooligan]

Yes i have. I have enough stacks to make them, but it only fits if you do the big air box. For non VFR guys, someone moved the air filter from the middle of the airbox and custom made one to fit in the top of the airbox.
i also have a spare air box lid to butcher.

[Hagarr]

looking really good!

Nice bit of individuality and your own touch of weirdness!

[hooligan]

I bought 2 x 120mm fans from Jaycar to replace the 2 x 80mm fans and i am picking up the lower temp fan switch tomorrow.
And the MT03 rad shroud fits pretty bloody well.

Gamma, its a custom rad. I had a TL1000R top rad before which worked well but was too wide so looked odd. It sprung a leak so i had a custom one made up. Its a bit smaller (left to right), but its a 42mm core as opposed to a 16mm core, so technically bigger.
I think that's the issue, at high speed, air gets all the way through the 42mm core, at low speed not as much air goes through.
The rad shroud will make a better high pressure zone at the front to force more air through, and the bigger fans coming on earlier will also help a lot.

[chinski]

That bike is fucking awesome !! nice work ! love the wheels, the loop in the pipe, barkbusters, headlight, tail. it all works together really well

Looks way newer than 2000 too

[craig]

Nice work, looks like a lot of fun to ride.

[hooligan]

Having a few recurring problems that have been getting me down a little. Made a little air dam to stop air from getting in behind the rad to help force air through the rad, fitted the MT03 scoop, and wired up the extra fan. Was gonna take it for a test ride, but I (hopefully, just) blew a fuse that powered the temp guage. Also noticed one hose is leaking, so i'll have to drain coolant again. The fuel gauge stopped working, so had to take the air box out again. Just a loose connection,and also had a loose connection with the tacho. Just little niggly problems that i think i have sorted, then they pop up. which sucks.
So i did something easy - fitted the driven keyless fuel cap. Original one was 464g, i forgot to weigh the driven one before i put it on, but using my uncalibrated ex-chef scales (my hands) it's gotta be somewhere around 150g. Taking 300g off the highest point in the bike has gotta be good.
And its pretty.

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[Gix11]

You're right; it is pretty.

[ozzy1100]

What Si said.... Very pretty

[hooligan]

I made my wife buy it for me for Christmas.
Black Friday US sales, with me telling Mish over and over, it's on sale, buy it. Have you bought it? It's only on sale til tomorrow, etc etc.
I cut down the key for my pillion seat and put a little plastic knob/handle on in (like a furniture toggle) so it can live on the bike. Keyless 1/4 turn fuel cap means I now only need one key (ignition) for the bike instead of 3.

[ozzy1100]

Marry that women, oh you already have, carry on then :-)

[rod185651]

Thanks for sending me the pics, love this bike!

[hooligan]

Some pics off the key for the pillion seat. It can now live on the bike instead of on my key ring.
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[rod185651]

What material did you use for handle?

Do you mind if I steal your idea?

[hooligan]

And some more half arsed engineering.
I needed a way to get the air that came through the rad away from teh bike instead of sitting under the tank. The fan just blew hot air over the engine and under the tank/airbox. i saw an air conditioning grille when we were doing some demo at work, and had a light bulb moment. Maybe.
So i cut a strip off, folded the top edge down, and wedged it against the fans. Turn teh fans on, and it blows air out the side like i hoped. All to the right side of the bike at the moment, I'll cut another strip so i have 2 halves, one facing left and one facing right.
It helps get heat away from the bike, and keeps any loose wires away from the backs of the fans. Win.

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[hooligan]

What material did you use for handle?

Do you mind if I steal your idea?

It was a toggle for some furniture i think. it had a bolt embedded in the plastic handle so you could tighten/loosen it as you adjusted the...whatever it was. I just dremeled the bolt out, and siliconed the shortened key in. If i have another one you can have it. Wouldn't trust the ignition key left in the bike, but the pillion seat doesn't worry me.
A large hex bolt head would do the same thing.

[rod185651]

perfect, yeah i have the same issue with different key for my pillion seat

[LKC73]

You got some pretty good ideas working there Hooligan. The fuel cap looks great. Those air vents are very creative.
Your bike is one sweet thing mate.

[hooligan]

Since the bike is jacked up a little higher than a standard Vfr, the side stand is a little short. I have had a cbr one in the garage for a little while to put on.
I wished id put it on earlier.
It tipped off the side stand earlier today and punched a hole in the fuel tank. I watched 18L of premium piss out the bottom corner of the tank. i'm on the hunt for a 98-01 Vfr 800 tank, or the later gen 2002 vtec tank that fits with just a little bit of work.

[BOBBY]

That eats big black dildos man.
Hope you get a tank asap for the right price.

[ozzy1100]

That is beyond arse..... don't forget about por 15 tank repair

[chinski]

fucking ouch mate damn, hate it when bikes get sleepy & need a lay down, never a cheap sleep ...

grills behind fans is a sweet idea too

[LKC73]

Mate that sucks a big one. Really hope you sort out a new tank quickly.

[Gix11]

Bugger. You're too bloody tall mate!

[Simo74]

yer that is the fken pits man, hope you find one soon. 2002 one on gumtree but is in QLD ? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kirwan/motorcycle-scooter-parts/vfr-800-fuel-tank-2002-onwards/1133210141

[wackyrider]

Shit, that's not local. Up in Townsville otherwise would have been happy to help collect.

[hooligan]

That's a bit cheaper than the $250 for the 2004 tank that's at my local wreckers.

I'll be using a later model 800 (2002+ VTEC) tank. Holds an extra litre or so, and is a direct fit except for needing a scpacer for the rear mounts. And looks a little better on a naked one.

[hooligan]

The CBR side stand needs a funky shaped spacer to be able to fit the VFR. Since it would take me 3 days with hand tools, i scammed measurements off the net, and went to Bens. It's not quite a turbo but he saved me 3 days worth of swearing.
I'll still have to do some hand filing to get the angle right for the stupid VFR rearsets, but I'm awesome with a dremel.
And I have the later gen tank and a duke 390 lower radiator spoiler to put around my oil cooler in my garage to make brackets for and fit up.

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[LKC73]

Nice!

[Nudie]

That looks like the key ring for ZZ Top's rod in the Sharp Dressed Man video!

[hooligan]

well, every girls crazy for one.

Side stand is on, much more betterer. Its also about 400g lighter than the vfr steel one.
It took about 2 hours to undo 2 bolts.
And lots of degreaser. and penetrating oil. and a cut down allen key. And a 1m long bit of tube as a breaker bar with a piece of threaded rod stuffed inside the tube so it wouldn't just bend.
It was a messy break up.

[hooligan]

since NFR is coming....
new 2004 model tank fits. waiting on $20 worth or gaskets for the fuel pump and sensor. And $100 worth of stupid in tank fuel filter. The pump was such a pain in the arse to take out i though i should change the filter so i never have to think about it again.
I have new velocity stacks so i can make dual stacks for it. Which only fit after i modify my airbox a bit. And i have a 10 row oil cooler to install that is 10 times bigger than stock to make up for my smaller rad.
I still need a pink slip and rego - only 1 month out of rego at the moment.

[LKC73]

Sounds like you have your hands full mate. Hope you get it sorted so we can see you at NFR.

[hooligan]

I've got an mt09 as backup.
But id rather be on a fighter.

[rod185651]

I've got an mt09 as backup.
But id rather be on a fighter.

my back up is my 350z i'm coming no matter what

[wackyrider]

my back up is my 350z i'm coming no matter what

Should I come down in mine as well? Lol.

[rod185651]

Should I come down in mine as well? Lol.

The heated seats are nice when it gets chilly in cooma ;-)

[hooligan]

windscreen and heated seats would help to keep the sand out of your vaginas.

[Gix11]

windscreen and heated seats would help to keep the sand out of your vaginas.
Boom! Cock punch with a run-up from Chris.

[GammaBoy]

Boom! Cock punch with a run-up from Chris.
Or is it a Cunt Punt?

[hooligan]

swapped the fuel pump and sensor, and changed the in tank fuel filter from one tank to the other. $20 for gaskets, $100 for the fuel filter.
Bolted the new tank onto the hinge, just need to connect the fuel lines again and the new tank is on.

[rod185651]

Need an update pic, I thinks

[The Phantom]

Agreed, pic(s) please!

[hooligan]

So, changed the side stand, changed the coolant hose to an alloy 60* bend (much neater), lots of other minor shit, filled the coolant, put in 5L of petrol.
in neutral, clutch in, and CLICK, no power. Dead battery. enough to power indicators and headlights, not enough to make it start.
Antigravity lithium on the way. Almost twice the CCA of the 5 year old motobatt, and 1kg instead of 4.

Almost ready for pink slip. hopefully. And a shitty pic that happened to be in my phone.
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[JimZXR]

Nice work mate

[Gix11]

Cool! Feeling the love.

[hooligan]

And, since it was fathers day recently, a story about my Dad.
He died when I was 4. This is not the point of the story.
In the background of the pic, there is a big silver drawer unit. That was my dads tool chest. It's not actually a tool chest, its a file card drawer from a library or office or something, but it's 40 or 50 years old, and still looks the same as my childhood memories.
Now its full of my random shit, instead of his random shit.

He rode as well (he owned a black shadow, and my uncle had a rapide). He'd be proud that i love bikes, but embarrassed by my half arsed workmanship - he looked after the diesel engines in merchant ships before he came out to aus.

[CK 187]

And, since it was fathers day recently, a story about my Dad.
He died when I was 4. This is not the point of the story.
In the background of the pic, there is a big silver drawer unit. That was my dads tool chest. It's not actually a tool chest, its a file card drawer from a library or office or something, but it's 40 or 50 years old, and still looks the same as my childhood memories.
Now its full of my random shit, instead of his random shit.

He rode as well (he owned a black shadow, and my uncle had a rapide). He'd be proud that i love bikes, but embarrassed by my half arsed workmanship - he looked after the diesel engines in merchant ships before he came out to aus.

Very cool story. And the bike's looking great!!

[ozzy1100]

What he said

[Gix11]

That's a good "dad" story. Cheers Chris.

[LKC73]

That's cool you have something of your dads in the workshop mate. Bike is looking good as well.

[The Phantom]

2004 tank looks great on it.

[hooligan]

yeah, seb put one on his, so when i knocked a hole in my tank, I bought the later model. It looks much better on a fightered vfr than the 2000 model.

And yeah, dad must have loved that bike - he brought the receipt with him from N Ireland when he moved to Aus. Wish he brought the bike to. I have the receipt, but the bike would have been better.

[geesexar]

bike's lookin kool Chris...and good to have something of your dads to remember him by..good work

[hooligan]

I fitted the battery last night. managed to break a very thin earth wire for something that i will have to trace and see what is was, however..
it fired up and made brooom broooom noises last night.

Considering it hasn't run is maybe 5 months, and hasn't had a petrol tank for 3 of them, i was thoroughly impressed that it started on the second stab of the starter button. The battery certainly packs plenty of punch.
A lumpy, rumbly V4 with very open pipes waking from a coma kind of start, but it settled into a vague rhythm after that.

Riding my brothers tuono while my MT09 gets new wheels has made me excited for the V4 noise again.
Pink slip here i come.

[Gix11]

There's that happy-smiley-feeling again! Nice one Chris.

[JimZXR]

What battery did you get? I'm looking for something with plenty of grunt but still smaller than the OEM.

[hooligan]

antigravity.
its a lot smaller and lighter.

[rod185651]

There's that happy-smiley-feeling again! Nice one Chris.

My thoughts exactly, how good is it when the engine kicks in

[hooligan]

it has a pink slip.
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[rod185651]

Very Cool

[Bob]

Lpoks great mate. Nice work

[Gix11]

Something completely different. Like it!

[hooligan]

the SP1 oil cooler (twice as big as the vfr one) and custom lines are off so i can sell it all to a guy in Canberra.
I have a thicker 10 row cooler (10 times bigger than stock, basically) and fittings ready to go on.
Make 2 brackets, mount it, then measure for new lines, and done.
It'll be half old school oil-cooled and half new school water-cooled. That should keep temps under control.

[hooligan]

the 10 row was too big, but the new 7 row is just right.
Rode it to work today, one of the lines started leaking. So, a tow, left work early, had another line made up (one i made was fine, one was fucked) and fitted it back up again.
Test rode it around the block a few times. At night. Checking for oil leaks. Not smart, but it seems to be ok enough to commute on it again tomorrow.

And the er6n headlight is great.
Michelle has named it the vortex as it sucks all my time and money.

[rod185651]

Nice work Chris, I am a big fan of the "Vortex"

[LKC73]

Hahaha, the "Vortex". Im a fan of the vortex as well Chris, looks great and glad to read you have it sorted out.

[hooligan]

the 7 row oil cooler. M8 bolts through existing tabs, some 50x50 ally angles that the guys use at work to put ally doors together, and some flatbar.
And a hacksaw. Need a hacksaw.
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[ozzy1100]

I like that

[rod185651]

the 7 row oil cooler. M8 bolts through existing tabs, some 50x50 ally angles that the guys use at work to put ally doors together, and some flatbar.

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Hacksaw?! Grinder mate.

But all jokes aside looks great mate

[GammaBoy]

I'd like to see the cooler rubber mounted, but it'll probably be ok.

[Gix11]

I love what you have done there Chris, great job. As Gamma says though, I too would have gone for some rubber mounts as soild joints cause all sorts of issues, trust me on this one, I learnt the hard way!

[hooligan]

I reckon I can add some rubber grommets. The last oil cooler was rubber free, i didn't even think of it.
I actually have some anti vibration matting that usually gets installed under timber floors. I can add a strip between the cooler and the bracket. Otherwise i have to remake brackets, and I'm lazy.
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

[hooligan]

So i bought a rapidbike module for it, does auto tuning using the stock o2 sensors.
That i got rid of years ago when i got a pc3usb.
So ive just bough a stock system with sensors second hand to get me rideable for NFR -I'll track down cost effective new ones later.
And I got some weld in bungs for my headers.
NFR is getting closer.

[hooligan]

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I had pirtek weld the an6 bungs on, and one of them cracked off. Since JB weld wasnt quite permanent, i bought some new bits and pieces and posted them to gitzy for welding.
The exhaust is mostly one piece, so i took the headers off last night and took them to a local place this morning for the O2 bungs.

[Gix11]

Loving the updates on this one - A proper build thread!

[hooligan]

thinking about renaming the thread how to build a deathtrap in 9 years..
some airbox mods.
the vfr airbox is 3 parts. Bottom, filter which also provides the seal, then the lid that usually houses the snorkel, flapper valve and shit.
One of the guys on VFRD did a big airbox mod. take a k & n air filter, cut the seal off. Cut the top off the airbox lid and attach the filter element to the lid. Essentially moving the filter from the middle to the top. Bigger airbox, and room for dual velocity stacks.
not quite finished, needs a clean up and sikflex to glue and seal, but it will work nicely.

the one with the heat tape is kinda standard, the one with the filter is, well, embiggened.
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[hooligan]

and I wrapped the headers. the rear pipes are really close to the rear brake MC, so thought it was worth a go.8302

[I0seb]

Nice pipes! Let us know how the airbox mods go, been considering doing that but leaning more towards supercharging at the moment ;)

[hooligan]

I can afford velocity stacks, not a supercharger.

[I0seb]

I can afford velocity stacks, not a supercharger.

Fingers crossed, if what I think is correct/possible, I reckon I can get it done for somewhere around a grand...

[ozzy1100]

Fingers crossed, if what I think is correct/possible, I reckon I can get it done for somewhere around a grand...

Omg I wish the one I did cost under 1k bwahaha

[hooligan]

apparently you cost to much, Oz.

I missed out by that much when seb bought a 6th gen torocharger kit from a guy in Sydney for about $2500.
fucker.

[ozzy1100]

apparently you cost to much, Oz.

I missed out by that much when seb bought a 6th gen torocharger kit from a guy in Sydney for about $2500.
fucker.

That seems to be the general consensus
Shit that's cheep if the kit was complete

[The Phantom]

thinking about renaming the thread how to build a deathtrap in 9 years..

Well I should rename mine to How to build a deathtrap in 19 years... because I'm up to year 16 now.


I missed out by that much when seb bought a 6th gen torocharger kit from a guy in Sydney for about $2500.

Yeah Seb bought that off my mate Roy. And yep Ozzy it was complete. Hell of a score. At least we know it went to a good home.

[hooligan]

Attempted to refit the exhaust last week. One exhaust stud out of 8 was a little worse for wear and had stripped thread on the first 5mm or so. The nut wouldn't catch on the thread.
I removed the stud last night and rethreaded using a die. No OEM studs in aus, and ebay are all delivery after NFR. I'll see if it will do the job for one last fitting and replace them all after NFR.

[Gix11]

Couldn't you just take it down to a nut and bolt shop and ask them to match it? Even if it was just a temporary fix for the ride?

[hooligan]

Its M8 at one end and M6 at the other. I have called quite a few, and nothing.

Fully sick custom made one by Ben? I'll be giving my rethread stud a go tonight.

[LKC73]

Hope you can get it sorted out. be good to see the VFR down at Cooma.

[Gix11]

Ahh, tapered. Yea, that makes things much more interesting.

[hooligan]

the rethread seem to be good to go. Still a shitload to do, but one less thing.