hooligans vfr 800

[ozzy1100]

wow they look shit loads better

[Redmohawk]

Looking great bloke

[nick76]

If you could somehow fit some CB1000R shrouds (like these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RC-Carbon-Fiber-Radiator-Side-Panels-Fairings-HONDA-CB1000R-08-09-10-11-12-13-/380603689290?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item589dbf694a&_uhb=1) would look ok i reckon??
If you'd still like that busted up Hyper side panel i have,flick me over some details and i'll bang it in the post for ya?

[hooligan]

Cheers for that, I've just PMed you my addy. I love this place.

[LKC73]

Hooligan, bikes looking good mate.

[hooligan]

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I got nicks slightly damaged hypermotard panel in the post today. Thanks mate.
I don't think it's quite right. What do you guys think? Could I chop it to make it right? Or is it not worth the effort?
And I posted that pic from my ipad, that's why it's fucking sideways.

[Cruisecontrol]

Nope.
The DRZ ones looked made for the VFR.
That looks like you zip tied a ducati panel to the side of your bike.

[Redmohawk]

I'm with Cruise on that one

[wackyrider]

No these don't work. Too low and long, just doesn't go with the bike

[nick76]

nope....bin it.
If anything,it would have to be much higher so the line in the tank lines up with the panel,but it wouldn't cover your radiator.
I didnt think it would work,as the Hyper tank is very different to yours,and you'd have to butcher so much out of the panel to fit,there would be fuck all left of it...

[hyofighter]

cut the lower second fin off cut it through the "c" on the ducati to shorten it and line the top of the shroud up with the body line in the tank and I reckon it would look alright , just my opinion tell me to fuck off back to the corner if you like

[hooligan]

Nope.
The DRZ ones looked made for the VFR.
That looks like you zip tied a ducati panel to the side of your bike.
Look closer, cruise..
It was electrical tape, not bloody zip ties.

I guess I'll limit the ducati parts to wheels.

[Cruisecontrol]

So only semi-permanent then?

From experience, Ducati parts on a real bike can bring nothing but pain, expense and regret.

[hooligan]

so i'm gonna go ahead with the hyper shrouds, but mounted sideways. So screw you all...
it covers the rad, and covers in the really skinny frame and tapered tank near the head stock to give the bike broader shoulders, if ya know what i mean.
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[hooligan]

So only semi-permanent then?

From experience, Ducati parts on a real bike can bring nothing but pain, expense and regret.

it already has Ducati parts. And i have previously had a ducati that was made of ONLY ducati parts, and that was quite a good experience.
maybe it only happens when you mix Japanese and Italian v twin parts? Like organ rejection?

[latheboy]

I like the placement now, the angle is much better than in the earlier pic

[nick76]

Its at 45degrees to how it fits on my hyper.....but like Latheboy says...it looks better......
How would you attach it to the bike??
Im sure most Ducati dealers would have a heap of busted up right ones from all the latte sipping poofs that have dropped their bikes on the way to their favourite Surry Hills Cafe?? lol

[hooligan]

Should be easy enough to mount. Liquid nails, yeah?

The coils were originally mounted to the outside of the frame near the headstock. I have moved them under the tank, so that frees up a couple of holes, and because it had side mount rads, there are some more holes on the side to use.
I should be able to bend some flat bar to suit.

And I called frasers, no go, but I have found a guy in Sydney who sells carbon ones. Ducati aftermarket means carbon bling.

[Redmohawk]

New setup is much gooder

[ozzy1100]

imo the other ones much nicer :-)

[hooligan]

It been a while.
Just a quick update without pics for now. when I got my new work bike (MT09) I decided to do some stuff to the Vfr. Working on a new headlight, currently mounted on dodgy as fuck brackets I made, with wiring to be sorted out.
And before nfr, I took of the rad guard, and noticed some random leaks from my 1 year old Chinese TL1000 R rad, so I pulled that off, and started to figure out a custom one.
Rode the MT to NFR, and it was fucking fun. Crashed the MT on 10/12, and am currently typing this one handed on my iPad with a plate and 10 screws holding the bones in my forearm together. And a fibreglass cast (black, of course) from knuckles to armpit. Could be worse, my uncle once had a cast that size on for 2 years to get his arm and shoulder together decades ago after crashing his vincent rapide.
So, apart from the er6n headlight and rad, I've also got a coil on plug conversion, zx14 master cylinders and shorty levers to go on.
If I had 2 hands, I'd be getting some work done.
Cast won't be off for another 2 to 4 weeks, so there'll be more waiting time, but maybe ready for next nfr. I'll post pics next time.

[MattyDucati]

Sucks on the staka bud, heal up

[ozzy1100]

how good are those zx14 masters.....

[hooligan]

No idea, haven't used them yet. Got a pair for $100Us delivered. Already have a radial brake mc, but now I'll have a matching pair rather than Gixxer brake and shitty old Vfr for the clutch.
Anther guy who fightered his Vfr put a pair on and liked them, so I thought I'd give them a go.

[ozzy1100]

No idea, haven't used them yet. Got a pair for $100Us delivered. Already have a radial brake mc, but now I'll have a matching pair rather than Gixxer brake and shitty old Vfr for the clutch.
Anther guy who fightered his Vfr put a pair on and liked them, so I thought I'd give them a go.
if you want a diff rez for them look at the gtr14, small mod but its what im thinking of useing

[hooligan]

I don't have any reservoirs for them at the moment, so may be an option, that or BXP reservoirs.

[hooligan]

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So hand is still not quite right, so I got my brother to come round and help with the soldering (i needed 4 hands). Headlight is now wired up and ready to go. LED parking globe, and i mated the twin H7 globes to the vfr H4 harness. I got it all ready months ago, then my arm made the headlight less important, and soldering a bit hard.
The custom rad is loosely bolted on, but not plumbed in. That's next, I'll need to make some more brackets for it to get it right.
And one of the front of the new MT.

[ozzy1100]

Sweetness

[TillerRider]

Good to see you are well enough to get some work done on the bikes. would be a small therapy to at least get into the shed

[hooligan]

the new rad is now plumbed in, and bike filled with coolant. I even started it up and ran it for a while, no leaks.
And thats pretty good sisnce the battery hasnt been on a tender, and it hasnt been started in 8 or 9 months.

Also finished off swapping in the coil on plug set up froma CBR1000, no more coil packs, which means more room under the tank, and a bit lighter, too.
The CBR stick coils are a bit shorter, so i extended the spark plugs with motherboard standoffs - pinched that idea from VFRD.

[Gix11]

Good to see you getting back into this one mate. There's a spate of building energy happening at the moment around here!

[Jockney Rebel]

awesome Chris nice bike too lol ...hows yer self after your .latest flying lesson

[hooligan]

im pretty good, Jimmy.
been going to the gym to get the strength back in my hand/wrist, so lost weight, down to 90kgs, but more muscle. Which is nice.
Wrist is pretty good, not quite as flexible/dextrous as before, but good considering how bad the bone explosion was. And since im already white collar, doesn't really matter like it did when i was still a chef.

and there was no flying, more crumpling behind the pajero, no flying past it.
Finally getting arond to stuff I'd planned on doing last christmas -next up, putting on the zx14 radial clutch and brake MCs and ex creations reservoirs.

[hooligan]

zx14 radial clutch MC is on and bled, and i changed the LH switchgear - i'd cleaned the original one maybe 6 times over the years, it was just old - it kept sticking. Now the indicator switch is nice and crisp.
I need to clean the clutch slave piston, I think. Clutch lever is firm, no bubbles coming out, but it doesn't disengage properly when you pull the clutch.

[The Phantom]

I need to clean the clutch slave piston, I think. Clutch lever is firm, no bubbles coming out, but it doesn't disengage properly when you pull the clutch.

Common problem with VFRs and pretty sure that's what led to the premature death of my original clutch at 80k. The slave piston sticks halfway along the bore, so the plates never fully engage.

I just held the slave over a bucket and pumped the piston out, cleaned from master to slave, and re-installed with new fluid - worked great (well, along with a new Barnett kevlar clutchpack). But a slave rebuild kit is pretty cheap and probably worth fitting.

[hooligan]

never noticed a problem before with it, only after i changed the MC's. It was dry for a day or 2 while i found the time.
i'll have a look tonight, see if it is covered in crud i can clean off with complete disassembly, and get a rebuild kit if that doesn't work.

[Watto]

hey chris - good to see back in action mate

who did your custom rad?

[hooligan]

Race radiators in Dandenong.
Not exactly right, but pretty good. The fan was supposed to be further to the right like my old one (I sent the old one down for reference). Fan doesn't fit, but I probably won't need it anyway.
It's smaller, but a42mm core instead of a standard 16mm. Should do the job easy.

[hooligan]

Common problem with VFRs and pretty sure that's what led to the premature death of my original clutch at 80k. The slave piston sticks halfway along the bore, so the plates never fully engage.

I just held the slave over a bucket and pumped the piston out, cleaned from master to slave, and re-installed with new fluid - worked great (well, along with a new Barnett kevlar clutchpack). But a slave rebuild kit is pretty cheap and probably worth fitting.

It was pretty dirty in there after 160,000ks. Gave it a quick clean out, but no joy.
Not much movement from the piston when i squeezed the lever (a few mm). Gave the lever a full squeeze and got maybe 5mm of movement at the piston. Couldnt imagine that having much effect.
For the princely sum of $80, i have a new slave cylinder on the way from honda. Not a rebuild kit, complete new slave. Seemed cheap for the whole assembly, so i bought it. It was in stock in Aus, so should have it in a few days.
Lets see what the next problem is.

[hooligan]

so, i realised that the zx14 shorty brake lever didn't quite fit. And the brake light switch was broken.
So i swapped the switch from a GSXR radial MC i had. Perfect fit.
Then i thought I'd check, the GSXR lever was also a perfect fit. Turns out i got a zx14 clutch MC and GSXR Brake MC. Already had one of those.
Since i already had the lever, i got to work filing it down to fit properly. Once Id done that, i had to figure out how to extend the piece that triggers the switch.
In the pics you'll see the cut down bolt that i used, double side taped to the lever, and then heat shrinked to make it as neat as i could. Backyard engineering at its finest.
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and i swapped this
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for this
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[ozzy1100]

If it works it works :-)

[hooligan]

And you cant see it when its mounted up.
If i hadn't posted pics of my dodginess on the net, no one would ever know.

If anyone needs a 9/11ths gsxr radial MC, I now have a spare one.

[hooligan]

since I'm doing a trackday soon, i thought i might paint the tank so it looks like a complete bike, instead of the dodgy home built fighter it is. Try and fake my way through scrutineering. The front guard and seat are both off a ninja 250, so they are the same black. So i just plasti dipped the tank matte black. It's not perfect, but its pretty good for less than $20, and about an hour, from pulling off the carbon tank protector to finished.

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[Gix11]

Forgiving paint that Plasti dip hey?

[hooligan]

Yep, very forgiving. There's a couple of bits that aren't perfect, but for a temporary paint job, it's great.
and apart from a wipe down with wax and grease remover, no prep.
The time this bike has taken so far, temporary might mean another few years, though.

[Nudie]

Im also a fan of Plasti dip. Very easy to use!

[hooligan]

So, my brother was booking a trackday, asked if i wanted to come. Said i couldn't afford it, he said he'd pay. So i have gotten my arse into gear.

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The new custom rad was hitting the front guard, so i needed professionally made brackets, not my home made ones to raise it up as high as i could. Ben's flat out, so off to DVMC in Botany.
New brackets, modded the mounting tabs on the rad, and my rocker cover bolts are now mounting points as well.

Ready for the trackday on Monday me and my brother will make a V8 rumble, although his tuono will be a bit quicker than the VFR.

[Goodtime]

How was DVMC? I usually get Ben to do all my work but as you know he is unavailable.

[hooligan]

So do I, but I sent him a text, he said he was flat out (needed it done for the trackday on Monday), so I asked a mate who recommended DVMC.
Good guys, only took them a day. Work seems good, no cnc machine though.
And no turbos upstairs, so not as dangerous as visiting extreme.

[ozzy1100]

turning out great......
when was the last time ben wasn't flat out lol

[hooligan]

Whenever large drops around?

Maybe I should just drop around with a few minutes of wiring to do?:D

[ozzy1100]

Giggles if only lol

[hooligan]

trackday was a blast. not as fast as my brothers tuono, quick enough through the corners, and more grunt out of corners than some of the in line 4's on the day.
New rad kept it at 93 degrees on the first 2 sessions, then 103 for the next one. But it was 30-35 degrees air temp by then. Stay upright run the trackdays now, and they have a different photographer. Not sure if i can steal sample size ones from the net or not.
On to the pics...
tyres to the edge
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Horsepower bursting out of the tank. Or my legs rubbing through the plastidip
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and just before the 4th session, i noticed my exhaust had lost a bolt, these are my load bearing cable ties
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[ozzy1100]

Red though the black looks good tho lol

[MuZ]

I found that the wifes bike is doing the same with the plastidip, in the same area and on the tail where her boot scrapes as she throws her leg over

[Gix11]

Proper use of a tyre right there, nice one Chris.

[hooligan]

he does put up w pics to steal the watermarked versions!
around the outside
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some of me
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and one of my brother, he's a late bloomer - his first knee down on this track day, not this pic though.
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[Gix11]

Looks like a fun day mate. How much is it for track days down there now?

[hooligan]

Fun day for me and my brother, but heads of crashes, i think the ambo went out for 4 of them, plus little ones that people walked away from.I blame tyre warmers. Everyone with them just goes out hard and enough people without them try and keep up. Lots of first or second lap crashes. Not enough time to warm up tyres or reflexes.
It was (I think) $235 on a monday.

[StuNVA]

Yeah, they are $235 now

[hooligan]

My brother posted a YouTube vid of the day. He follows me for a bit, then smashes past me on the straight a couple laps in.
A little bit of traffic for us to get through.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50jYudo0Vkc

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[Simo74]

Cool Vid, that really makes me want to do another rack day.... now how do I get that one past the misses!

[StuNVA]

Good stuff, I had to knock back a track day there on Saturday :( bit like a root, one you knock back is one you'll never catch up on. The Tuono goes ok.

[hooligan]

I had a coolant leak in the V of the motor. Tank up, air box out, throttle bodies off, replace a couple hoses, replace the inside of the thermostat (since it's a pain in the arse, may as well do it just in case), throttle bodies back on. Just have to put the air box back on.
I'm looking at getting the suspension sorted, so I weighed the bike on 2 sets of bathroom scales. Only a third of a tank, and no coolant.
100kgs on the rear, and 85kgs on the front. Add 15kgs for fuel and coolant, and it's at 200kgs. The fuel and coolant will help the front end weight a bit.
But 200kgs is pretty good.

[fimpBIKES]

heeeey, good to see you have healed up all good. VFR looks to be running well.
looks like you have been running into all the same radiator issues I had with the TLR
even with the custom one it was a tight fit and I had to watch the temperature in traffic and smashing it on hot track days

you booked for any trackdays this year? I need an excuse not to sell my little CBR trackbike :)

[hooligan]

Booked for a superbike school in June with my brother.
He crashed at the s1000rr ride day 3 weeks ago. Discovered he had 2 broken bones in his foot on Tuesday, had surgery yesterday.
He wants to learn a bit more to avoid crashing again. We did stage 1 after I broke my leg, so it's a good way to get back on the horse.

[hooligan]

Sooo..
I did the CSS with my brother, but on the MT09.
The VFR wasn't quite ready. But i have been doing stuff on it.
Got the new reg rec wired up, including mounting it on the left side of the frame by the headstock - mounted off one of the mounts for the original coil packs.
i plastidipped the frame a gunmetal grey.
Painted my acewell dash matte black.
made some brackets to mount the headlight off the yokes, not the forks. Just modified some bunnings "make your own brackets" you know, the mostly pre made gal steel things.
tidied up the wiring harness, lengthened some things, shortened some others so that it was a bit neater running under the headstock instead of above.
got the airbox back on with 2 6th gen short stacks.
Have some more short stacks on order from honda - gonna try and make some dual stacks out of them. Or just give myself 4 short stacks instead of 2.
installed a blaster x integrated tail light in the ninja 250 seat unit, as well as some strip LEDs as extra indicators
Just need to get the front indicators and barkbusters back on, then i can fill up the coolant again and see if she starts after a while on stands.


Then i can get on to the next stage, getting the forks and rear shock re done, wheels painted, and forks anodized.
I think this will be a hilarious street legal track fighter.

[wackyrider]

Sounds like good progress Chris.

As they say, pics or it didn't happen

[hooligan]

yep, righto. pics tomorrow i guess.

[The Phantom]

It was pretty dirty in there after 160,000ks. Gave it a quick clean out, but no joy.
Not much movement from the piston when i squeezed the lever (a few mm). Gave the lever a full squeeze and got maybe 5mm of movement at the piston. Couldnt imagine that having much effect.
For the princely sum of $80, i have a new slave cylinder on the way from honda. Not a rebuild kit, complete new slave. Seemed cheap for the whole assembly, so i bought it. It was in stock in Aus, so should have it in a few days.
Lets see what the next problem is.

Missed this when you wrote it - mine was like that, I took the cap off the master, wrapped rags around it, then used a g-clamp to force the slave piston in - it went with a pop, ejecting the fluid into the rags, then I put new fluid in and when it came out the bleed I did the bleed up and easily pumped the piston back out.

But yeah - $80, can't go wrong. I should do that too.

[Gix11]

This never happened as there are no photos.

[ozzy1100]

what they said, pics or it didn't happen

[hooligan]

I was busy last night not spraying my headlight surrounds and bracket with primer so i can't spray it black tonight.Here are some pics of other stuff that hasnt actually been done.
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[Gix11]

I like the "Stuff making the bike black, I'll just make everything black" approach. Luminous yellow wins over orange every time for me. Orange is so 1998 :) If you're doing that much colour down the bottom you need a decal on the tank and tail to balance as well.

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[Gix11]

That wasn't my best work by the way.....

Oh, and I realise I said yellow and then did orang; brain of a retarded chimp.

[hooligan]

Your half arsed is much better than what i can do, Si. I had one of the guys at work photoshop the wheels.

And yes, i am planning on hi vis yellow kinda colour. I like the splash of colour on the tank, too. I've got some rad shrouds from a yamaha xj6 to go on as well.

[hooligan]

what about this kinda thing on the tank? One of teh guys on CF designed them.I right clicked and saved as a while ago.
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[ozzy1100]

me likey.....

[The Phantom]

If you do go with that neon yellow, I can sell you a new unused RK HFO chain in that colour... HFO is not as strong as the GXW but fine for 750-800cc. Got a set of rim stickers in the same colour too.

[hooligan]

is it 530, 525 or 520 chain?
and some pics. one of my low tech spray booth, and 3 of the blaster x tail light with integrated indicators and additional strip led indicators. The blaster x is retina burning. I sprayed the strip led with night shades tint to make it blend in with the undertray a bit better.
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[Gix11]

I don't reckon those decals would work mate. 2 reasons: 1). the design is preangled which will leave the text "Honda" in a straight line along the tank (a pet hate of mine) rather than pointing down the angle with the tank (like I did previously) - 2). the design is more of a box shape and would distort over the curves of the tank.

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[hooligan]

Yep, that doesn't look right to me either. Which is a pity.
What about getting rid of the HONDA and just using the wing and knuckles rotated a bit to follow the line of the indent on the tank?

[The Phantom]

is it 530, 525 or 520 chain?

It's a 530.

[Gix11]

Same story ,ate, once you rotate the wing, the bottom edge of the knuckles wouldn't line with anything. You'd be better off just losing the HONDA line and using the wings as a logo (to the front of the bike) to whatever word you had in the same place as the ones I created earlier. Having two defined anglkes in that design limit the possibilities completely.

[hooligan]

The carbon akra from the MT09 with a modified loop the loop link pipe is on my exhaust guy sent me this pic as a teaser.
I picked it up saturday - it sounds fucking awesome. you can still hear the GDC, and it's just raspy enough.
Anyone want a jardine slash cut with a baffle?

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[Shadowzone]

How many beer tokens you chasing for the Jardine?

[hooligan]

$70+ post?
It was originally for a Gixxer- supposed to slip onto the cat converter.
I had it tweaked a bit to fit the vfr, and added the generic internal baffle.
I'll text you some pics tomorrow.

[GammaBoy]

Why the loop-de-loop link pipe? looks like it'd drag on right handers?

[hooligan]

longer pipe, more top end. And its different. On an MT, the loop sits where the cat converter normally sits.
We almost laid it on its side and it didn't touch, but if i get nervous, it can get tweaked a little.
I drag the left hand footpeg quite a lot, but I'm not so good on rights.

Its actually got some ebay/china footpegs that are 25mm higher and back than stock. the pipe sits about where the old footpeg was.

[BOBBY]

I like it. Vids?

I see your plasti dip is holding up well. How many coats did you put on it?
Can't remember if it was real plasti dip or the supershit version.

[hooligan]

I think a super cheap brand.
It rubbed off around the tank indent pretty quick on a track day, but everywhere else it's held up well.

No vids.

[BOBBY]

Adds character imo.

[hooligan]

At least the red underneath matches the akra sticker.

[LKC73]

Looks wild, and must sound good.

[hooligan]

wheels are at the painters, and forks are at the anodisers.

[JimZXR]

Exhaust looks mint and should sound killer being an Akra.

Did the Jardins sell? Think I could make it work well with a ZX9R headers I have to make a shorty exhaust.

[Gix11]

Rad circle exhaust!

[hooligan]

collideascope is painting some bits for me. I saw an xr6 turbo ute, and looked up the colour -ford citric acid for the wheels and rear spring, matte black yokes, calipers, fork lowers.
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[Gix11]

Is it done yet!???

[hooligan]

i started this thread in 2011. It ain't done yet.