Congrats on the little fella mate.
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Congrats on the little fella mate.
got a dirt cheap set of bars yesterday, they even fit in with my idea of going for an all alloy front end,
no paint on the triples, lower fork legs or calipers and stripped anodising on the fork tubes.
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ok so only small bits of progress thees days....
been working on the rearsets i got off turbo, he's an ok bloke even if hes not my friend anymore coz i told him how gay 4 stroke dirt bikes are.....:p
got some Proteck pegs on:
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master cylinder and brake switch turned up too, just waiting on a CNC gear lever then ill magiclly make then all black.
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I see you're slowly waking up to yourself... there's hope for our friendship yet.
haha good to know mate.... i rekon i mite be able to live with one of those old AG bikes on the sealed stuff....
gear lever turned up today, so i threw that on and its a tad too wide...
when i tighten up the foot peg bolt it clamps the lever solid, so ill have to take to it with a file when i get a chance.
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Ok so a bit bigger progress today, I now have a Z1000 J engine!
This is what $300AUDcan buy you, not bad when the only other engines I can find are a bottom end for $999
And one for $1200 condition unknown....
So I got a set of MIKUNI carbies
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And the engine with no broken fins!!!!!!!!!!
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Mmmmm power........
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I also got the coils and was supposed to get the loom but the dickhead chucked it, so I said to throw in he tank( with taps and sender unit and let's call it even! Done deal....... Ha what a fucken idiot!!!!!!!
Just been doing a bit of internet surfing as in my last pic of the barrels
You will see "1.089L" now would that not make this a Z1000 R engine???
It's not an 1100?
No broken fins is a big bonus
I just got a uni track 1100 about 80% (nothing above barels and in parts)
For not much less than that and we still have to weld some fins
but I really only wanted it for the zx gear box and oil pump
They really are one of the best looking motors
nice score!
J model donk same as the US police "KZ" easy for parts and if you keep it stock will be cheap(ish) to rebuild.
Im really not sure now i know the Z1000R was 1089cc
But then the US modle kz1100 was also 1089 and 1015.
There is an old fella at work who drags zeds and im taking it to work
Tomorow to steam clean anyway im sure hell know.
could be wrong but I think the Z1000R (Eddie Lawson rep) had an all black motor, the garden variety J model had the bare alloy ends on the rocker cover and the ignition cover fins like yours.
the only 1100 model we got (before GPZ1100B1) was a shaft drive, anyway your not doing a resto are you??
$300 bucks is a bargain so quit your whining!
Well the bodywork on this bike was GPZ1100 B1 but I have also seen the same bodywork referred to as a Z1000j... So that's why I'm getting so confused....
No I'm not doing a resto, I'm sure when I open it up all will be explained...
Nice one mate, good find and a bargain no matter what size the engine is. Having said that though you'll need to make it bigger as it only has 8 valves,ahem. If you want and when you're ready I can ulrasonic clean your carbs for you.
Oh and by the way Linton you're correct , the old Z motors are one of the best looking but but THE BEST looking motor is the GSX 11.......................innit :)
you can go here http://www.zpower.com.au/catalog/index.php and check the engine no.
click "kawasaki motor parts" top left corner and follow your engine number to the truth
hey simon, funny how suzuki could only beat the immortal Z900 by adding those 8 EXTRA valves eh?............
Haha wil this debate ever die???
Simon that would be awesome! have you got your own cleaner?
See u on the road scrag......
And funny how some of the fastest drag bikes are still 8 valve
you one eyed suzi freak Simon :-)
NHRA Pro-Stock bike is 2 valve for 4cyl and v-twin motors in 2013Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy1100
looks like the true KING could return to claim the crown............
Funny what over 700 tho lift with do at 14k rpm lol
Still amaze me how little of the both suzi and kwaka
motors are left but how close in design to the base motors they are
billet heads with chevy V8 sized valves will do that ......lol
They are flash bit of kit I will say..........
ok so i have spoken to the man who know's all things Kawasaki ( Peter Frasca of Just Kwakas)
and he has I.D'd it as a GPZ1100 B1 engine with a Z1000 ST ignition cover and
J series carbs!
$300 DAM well spent i feel!
so i couldn't resist popping the cam cover off to have i look......
first was the smell of beautiful fresh oil!!! bonus!
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then i gazed upon beautiful unmarked cam lobes.....
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cam gears with virtually no wear..... has this puppy been apart already?
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and Z1000 cams? or are 1000 and 1100 cams the same?
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drop the sump and check for bits of cam chain guides/metal, also screen on oil pump will usually have bits of silicone stuck on it if it's copped a rebuild
if it's all clean and your on a budget I would leave it as is until you can start the fucker up and check for smoke/rattles
$300???...................CUNT!
B1 means 17 mm wrist pins still a shit hot motor :-)
Nice score mate !! Does anyone know if the cam timing with these is as bad as the KZ 750's ?
I have no idea this will be by first big air cooled Kwaka they seem pretty simple....
Famous last words.
yes very simple and relatively cheap to rebuild.............until you want HPQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwi kdx
what started out as a mild mota on my ZED went off the rails a bit due to a few deals on parts.........
a ported (flows 91cfm) GPZ1100 B1 head with roller cam chain conversion, new (oversize) valves/guides/seats $1800
new egay special 1134 MTC piston kit/sleeves in ready to use barrel $600 with freight
billet .470 lift cams new never used $400
Kibblewhite shim under bucket set up to suit cams $380
38mm Mikuni flatslides near new $400
then the head needed to be machined for cam clearance, inlet ports matched to inlet rubbers then bench assembled to check valve interference/clearances
then the were pistons were machined for circlips, lightened and re-balanced
add in the black heat coating on cases/barrel/head/rocker cover so it looks like the Z1 mota
had crank runout checked then welded, got a low mileage (was like new) complete gearbox/clutch basket from states
add in all the sundries like gasket/seals/rubbers/guides ect and you could have a nice shiny "INSERT LATE MODEL SPORT BIKE HERE"
my mota is ready for final assembly just sorting out all the ancillaries so it can all be put together to go in the frame
now need to start on painting/detailing/putting together the rolling chassis................
Mate thats gonna be one sweet engine!
I have spare cases comming for mine so for now ill paint them up
Then swap everything over probablly throw in new mains weld the crank while its out
And rings too depending on the comp test.
Once ive had the bike running and on the road for a while
Im thinking i may take advantage of the direct injection ports in the
GPZ head......... YES.......Turbo.......
if the bearings are ok on crank and you dont have to press apart i wouldnt bother with the cash to weld at power levels u going to go for
mine isnt far from efe's- ported and reshaped combuston cambers in a 1100st head with over size vlaves etc etc etc ,1230 mtc
kit and depending on what cr and cam specks we end up useing will hit between 135 and 150 rwhp (prob closer to 135)
even at this combo(light weight magnisn z9 raceing clutch and mtc plates with up 2 extra 4 so plates on a back cut gear box)
i wont be welding the crank but i was lucky and dont need to press apart so no weld. no need to weld just for strenght at power levels u what to go what kills them from what i am told is slicks.........
as for turbo save yr self the hassel and use the later tb's and keep those blanks for yr wet nos system :-0
and efe u so right when you say hp cost money on these motors :-)
but 30 + yrs of drag raceing means you and i get a storming motor that will live for ever lol
mine will prob have the 38 or 40 rs carbs and for easy just a dyna 2000
the bloke doing my mota had his 1075 Z1-A (which he purchased BRAND NEW!) on his dyno last week, little cams, stock vavle size in a Z9 ported head, 26mm Z1 carbs with k&n pods with a 4-1 kerker and it made 97 rwhp
this is it with the stock exhaust
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Oh if big ends are ok I won't worry, I know these cranks are bulletproof!
Ozzy I like your idea, those ports are just begging to be used.....
EFE I cant see the pics in your build???? Are they still there?
nah mate, my build threads are fucked with all the pics missing and I lost all my saved pics when my last laptop shit itself.
gunna have to start another one.
i think most of the time if u need to change anything on the crank its to do with side lash ?
but end of day look into it i have nothing agaisnt welding them and if u pull them apart they have to be welded but if rest is k i wouldnt weld for the sake of it but depends on what yr motor builder has found best in past, myself i was just happy to save the cash for things like new bucket and shims in the head
btw dont bother with the old cb900 starter trick with these donks, there are brand new high output after market starters for these motors in the states i think mine is costing under $250 and for something that i have it told will spin a high comp 1560cc motor if the wireing is correct I dont think thats bad value
efe you and I might have varing diffrences in some of our polictical and soical views
but any man that loves old sckool kwaka gear cant be all that bad :-)
here's a few pick just for you mate!
pipe is a $50 Kerker that I want to do in old skool sprayed aluminium white
marzocchi came off Sickboy's Rickman (30mm taller than stock) swapped for bourbon
swingarn is underbraced and frame braced at neck/top tube and between front engine mounts
everything that bolts to it has been polished or chromed and that's genuine gold plated acorn bolts for all the engine covers
paint job will be a stockie (not sure what one) on tank with a 70's style mural on top/stock on ducktail then colour matched "rising sun" on each side cover
Can't wait to see pics of all these projects developing and finished. They all sound awesome.Despite other comments I might have made I do actually llike the old Z's indeed a certain Gpz 1100 B1 still has a special place in my head.
It looks like you got a fucking bargain there with that engine.
For my part I've always had the approach of doing it as best as I can do it rather than doing it quickly(although these aren't mutually exclusive) and as such I'd be looking at hi lift cams, big bore, big valves, flowed and ported head, big carbs, oil cooler and electronic ignition. For me that's more in line with Oldskool tuning rather that putting a Turbo on it and I absolutely agree with Linton Wet NOS single hit 70 BHP kit.
mmnnn dont forget the progressive controller and tune your ramp of hit drooooollllllll
a waste on the street ( at min no bottle on bike and the need for flush etc) for only a few runs at track prob kills it
but cool as fuck.....