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Hi all
quick update bikes was on the backburner for a while no funds new job and major doggy surgery was going to sell it off but got talked out of it bill called me a few choice names and spouting stuff like you know how much time ive spent on that you kent or something like that
and busa dave just said we will sort it no dramas
this was my turbo rebuild £1000 worth of stiching ouch!!!!
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bill finishing up the mapping when i sort the oil return on the turbo and fit a one way check valve as its to low
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now sorted just waiting for the check valve then i can whip off the turbo and get the oil seals done
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when we got the bike home the bike would.nt fire up changed the battery still no joy
bikes was running rich so checked fuel pressure electrics bill done a sterling job changed the fuel lines as they needed re-routing all good
pulled the air filter off that wasent helping fucked so needs replacing
rigged up the laptop and error was bad tooth pattern talked to sbd who were brilliant sent them the map and he emailed me back with a tweeked map all in 10 mins loaded it back on
bike starts first time every time
doing some detail stuff on it over the next couple of months keep you posted
thought it was time to update
first up say hello to henry the thug a white boxer black eye and a mohawk will never replace spart but we had this gap which just had to be filled
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turbo got sorted new seals which were shot and all cleaned up and balanced
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whilst i was at it repainted the engine block and sorted out that crap radiator
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redone the clocks with a decent piece of carbon fiber
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got some more space in the engine bay and changed the standard engine breather with a low profile unit loads of room now
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so with that lot done bike was sent off to tim who mapped the bike problem we had was that the bike was running really rich and on power felt like we had a fueling problem all was checked that we could check busa dave went through it with a fine toothcombe all was good so when tim got it within 5 mins on the dyno sussed the prob tps was wired wrong that sorted bike was mapped and running lovely 230bhp low boost
still got to map high boost but we need to rewire that part as tim wasent happy with the set up so thats a job for him after summer
so all thats left for me to do noz bottle powdercoated being done this week new air filter ordered brackets for lights being done this week new lock up clutch on order due next two weeks
Looking great mate! I've got a white boxer too, one brindle ear, she's nuts but I wouldn't have it any other way!
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Originally Posted by J7-11
talk is cheap need photo:)
Yeah I know... I'm about to change jobs and deleted all my photos off my work computer, had to go onto fb and download them off the missuses photos... A couple of young ones and a more recent one:
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mate if we were not half way cross the world id swear they were related the last pic looks like spart my old boxer
they look the bollox mate
spart.rip
with my victorian mastiff
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bikes looking good spart
thanks bandit
you had to go back to thread:)
some bits done ready next week roll on summer
new headlight cover and bill put the menu button for the motogadget clocks
in the back of the headlight nice and discreet
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noz bottle powder coated dident work polished
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lock up clutch turned up today
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Very nice mate. Will it be at Warwick for FFUK?
whens that gix
FFUK is on Sunday the 16th of June Spart. I'd like to see the Busa up there if ya can make it. I'll be up there with the dyno truck and some of the bikes that didn't make it to Brent Cross last year. I've just had a cracking day at Brands Hatch for the opening round of BSB, good ride there and back, excellent view from the hospitality box overlooking the start line, really nice lunch laid on, and the ZRX1000R ran faultlessly there and back although it did drink fuel rather heavily as Mart and I ragged the bikes mercilessly for almost 300 miles. My neck is sore as fuck now and I'm knackered, the windblast on a naked bike at over 150mph is pretty severe. I'm off to bed for a much needed kip.
Yep, what Bill said.
will try to book it off work may need to crash in the dyno van bill@:)
It's only on the Sunday Spart not the Saturday.
lock up fitted just needs the mot now and ready to play
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Looking good bud, once it's MOT'd have a ride down to see me with it, and I'll finish off the hi/lo boost wiring for you.
took out the bike over the weekend found that on tickover it was hunting and what sounded like an air leak
so gave mr bruno a shout had a good look around and found no leaks from the turbo system but what was concerning was throttle body no4 was lifting
first thoughts bad spark ruled that out then coil breakdown again ruled out as we went through every thing i spoted a spark from the inside of the engine bay dave then investigated and spoted the vapour coming out of the bottom of the throttle body checked the rubbers all fine so somehow i had a hole in the throttle body
cut a long story short we went looking for a second hand set just so happened dave had a spare set of busa throttle bodys in his garage as you do :)
the scary bit was what we found
1.the hole for the injectors were not drilled out correctly every single hole had damage which someone had sealed with sealent on one side
and on the other the had used chemical metal to seal and then repainted them
2. throttle body four was resembling a combustion chamber
3.even the boots mounting to the engine were silocined it looks like someone tried everything to stop any leaks couldent have been much worse just lucky we caught it in time
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result
a nice new pair we replaced the boots all the lines the injector holes were already properly drilled out bike started first time all balanced no air leaks not hunting off the road for 24hours many thanks dave
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fucking hell you were lucky to find that when you did mate
Talk about a pain to find type shit
tell me about it worst thing is someone went out of there way to put those throttle bodies back on the bike in that condition no wonder bill was having a fucking tantrum trying to balance them
Shit, mate, you havnt had much luck with this turbo build!! You must be getting close to getting all the gremlins out now ;)
This find should relieve you of alot of your wierd running problems i suspect. Keep at it mate and cracking bike .
Fuckin' hell Al, when you described it on the phone to me I had thought the holes for the injectors had been bored too big and the injectors were held in with chemi metal, I didn't realise they actually broken through elsewhere. I'm amazed it didn't catch fire on the dyno. It makes a lot of sense now looking at how much trouble I had trying to synch the bloody things. I suppose in view of the rest of the issues with the thing we shouldn't be surprised though. The bike has been a real bag of surprises, not good ones either. I'm glad you've stuck with it though it would have been too easy to fuck it off before the turbo was rebuilt and the mapping finished.
set up of the original boost guage dont work to well in the tank, not the best idea to look down when you want to know how its boosting
so turbosmart boost guage and cup, original mounting stuff you get aint suited to the bike so plenty of head scrathing, made a mount under the speedo found an old rizoma res mount mod to fit think it worked out well
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bill have a look at this or any one else who has an idea how to solve
HI Guys
see if any of you can help
got one of these
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someone help me with this formula
hayabusa 2004
front sprocket 17 rear 40
wheel circumferance 198cm
4 pulses
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this what we came up with couldent and dont understand why they use impw 80 when it should be 4 so assuming they are doing that as an example
b/r = 17/40 = 0.425
4 x U = 4 x 198 = 792/b = 792/17 = 46.6
46.6/0.425 = 19.8
problem with this is
ok im assuming we enter 4 for impw and we are entering 19.8 cm for wheel circumferance ?
impw lets me input 1 to 99 so 4 for aint a problem
circ lets me enter 101 to 350 so i cant enter 19.8 and before you say try 20 cant do that either in the motogadget web site it says that the circ has to entered in CM so 101cm is the starting point i think im just thick
here are the instructions
http://motogadget.com/media/download...al_en_1.13.pdf
You've miffed it a little bloke 46.6/0.425= 109.6 I'd go with 109 . You've multipled it instead of divided it is all.
il try that today im just waiting for my iphone to fall off the headstock only a matter of time
cheers:)
Measure the wheel/tyre circumfrence in millimetres, EG 1960mm then calculate the sprocket ratio, IE 15/45 is 3 to 1, 14/45 is 3.21 to 1.
The Busa speed sensor creates 4 pulses per revolution of the front sprocket as do most Suzukis and Kawasakis
So for one revolution of the rear wheel EG1960mm travelled the number of pulses created will be 4 X 3.21 = 12.84
Divide the wheel/tyre circumfrence EG 1960mm by 12.84 = 152.6mm per pulse.
now if you can only set a certain number of pulses into your electronic speedo, simply multiply the distance per pulse by the number of pulses IE 5 pulses will be 5 X 152.6 = 763mm, so the speedo now knows that for every 5 pulses it receives it will have travelled 763mm.
If your distance input has to be between a pair of numbers then simply multiply the distance per pulse by whatever number you require to get into the correct zone, and then use the number you multiplied the pulse distance by, for the number of pulses.
So if you need to be in between 1000mm/100cm and 1600mm/160cm then multiply 152.6 until you get in between, so X10 would be 1526mm/152.6cm and X9 would be 1373.4mm/173.34cm
Always use the highest number of pulses you can enter into the speedo as this will give much better resolution and therefore greater accuracy and response.
As an additional bit of info, for those guys converting oilcooled GSXR and early Bandit motors to use the electronic speedo pick up, rather than drilling the output shaft to M6 in order to attatch the suzuki signal generator, it is far easier to simply use the sprocket nut from a ZX9R C/E/F models 98/03.
This bolts straight on, and just needs the edges trimming a little to fit into the cover, it generates 4 pulses per revolution of the front sprocket, and the Suzuki and Kawasaki speedo pick ups are identical, and it all works using the late model Bandit sprocket covers.
I have done this self same modification on a Slabby 1052 motor ( which already is drilled to M6) but I used the ZX9R sprocket nut, and it all works fine.
Your sprocket ratio is 2.35 to 1, this means that for every revolution of the rear wheel you will see 9.4 pulses. Each pulse travels 210.6mm or 21.06cm.
So you need to tell it how many pulses it will see and the distance travelled per 1 pulse is 210.6mm/21.06cm, so 10 pulses would be 2106mm or 210.6cm 5 pulses would be 1053.1mm or 105.31cm
As long as you know your 210.6 times tables you'll be fine!!!
1 pulse = 210.6mm/21.06cm
2 pulses=432.0mm/43.2cm
3 pulses=642.26mm/64.22cm
4 pulses=864.0mm/86.4cm
5 pulses=1074.6mm/107.46cm
etc etc etc
Anyone reading this will realise i have cocked up the numbers slightly, but it was late and I'm not great with my 210.6 times tables!!!
exactly what i thought knew you back up my theory:confused:
il sort it out tommorow thanks again bill
on the fuel pump issue defo one fuel line ie the 10mm bit is way to soft so probably collapsing when hot creating my fuelling issue when the bike warms up, got the fuel pump out and it will fit in the back of the bike so going to mount it away from the engine which inturn should get rid of any issues with the fuel lines getting pinched and restricting the flow
spot on on the breather from the fuel cap all clear and looks like its venting just got to make sure i run the lines correctly, so all the niggly bits getting slowly sorted, all going well gonna take it for another spin on sat to see if ive sorted it
cheers mate
hi all been a while
been out playing with the busa
so last post was about that fucking speedo all sorted now thanks more gremlins reared there ugly head
bike runs fine get into 6th put the power down and feels like fuel starvation turn engine off back on again fine
thought it was a prob in top gear decided to let the boost cut in on third and open it up and it did it again
so looked at the fuel lines replaced them and re-routed still there
checked fuel pressure all ok
pump looks like it may have a problem or could be getting to hot in engine bay
so replaced with bosch 044 good for 600 bhp and decided to mount in the rear ot the bike and use armoured fuel hose doing this meant nice straight fuel lines to the tank and fuel rails
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unit just about fitted had to mod the subframe a bit due to the new pump being bigger
guess what still dident sort it out so great unless you put the power down was going to take
it back to get remapped then bill asked me about the aftermarket cap yes it was venting but his thought was not enough so on his advice we drilled the vent hole out in the pertol cap
AND IT NOW GOES LIKE STINK
a 5 min fix be warned after market petrol caps
any way since then been out loads bikes behaving boosting lovely waiting till winter to get secondry boost sorted by timblake moore and stainless dave is going to be playing with the bike looking at a spondon look tubular arm one off
some bike pics taken recently with a mates faired busa
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a week later i fell of it and i mean fell off it sitting on the bike leant over to switch on the ignition i was at an angle and over it went with my mate in fucking hysterics
damage crushed coolent bottle and bent turbo filter was lucky no other damage bodged it up and carried on playing for the day
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so new bottle on the way and talking to pipercross to get a new filter made up whilst i was at it had another look at the bike decided to sort out the front discs rear sprocket was goosed so a nice new steath sprocket fitted also hate the mount i used for the oil cooler sorted that
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just waiting for the botle to turn up back on the road
just blagged a busa 2008 rad nearly new with both fans £100 result that turned up today so that will be another mod done will post up and loads of lsl bits i won at a recent show
Fuck I'd love a go on that. Nice work Al. Glad it's running like it should, your missus isn't going to see much of you until the weather turns shit is she?
You may have just solved my issue. My bike runs well till I give her some beans then she just looses power. Hit the kill switch off and then on again and she's all good. Have an aftermarket bllet fuel cap fitted and I realised that it was creating a decent amount of pressure int he tank on my K4 as it was not venting. Seems like this might be the issue of the power loss then. I will drill the cap and see how I go. What size did you drill to equalise the pressure?
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went 3 times the size about 2 mm on the inner part of the cap and put a 1/2 mm hole in the cap itself off set when lined up so 1/4 mm opening no issues bikes boosting and going like a train
yea simon aint seen her much over the last 2 weeks however got to paint the house so modding up the new rad in the evrenings :)
rad 2008 busa extra cooling and the front rad pipes now go behind the rad
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set up the fans and 2008 rad has a threaded hole in the side ideal for the coolent bottle had to muck about with one of rad lines as too short
need to get my mate to flatten and thread another hole in my inline hose mount for thre thermal sender then finished
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tryingout a pipercross filter 20mm wider and taller but more air also think it fits well with the bike had to get a silicon sleve made up to connect bout nice and sdolid aint going nowere let you know how it goes
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