Criminalised ?

The NWO does not want people to have an identity or be in groups because that gives them strength.

This mixing up of people all over the world is to de-nationalise them, rob them of their identity, rob them of their sense of national pride, rob them of their strength.

Thats what the NWO is about, taking away peoples strength anyway they can. Using the nanny state, control, lies, spin and propoganda.

Man is tribal by nature. [:p] Everything revolves around tribal culture.
Taking that away means they take away that feeling of identity, the strength of the tribe.

We all even subconsciously belong to, or aspire to belong to a particular tribe or several tribes.

Which tribes do you belong to ?

Aussie ?
Brit ?
Ruskie ?
Football fan?
Rocker?
Mod?
Skinhead?
Goth?
Biker?
Bike clubs?
Hippie?
Religionist?
Punk?
Man?
Woman?
Not sure?
etc...

Its all tribal mate ;)

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quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

I prance around naked what wrong with that? But I don't bother with silly dresses

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Yes but not in the shopping mal ? [:o)]

fuck sake.. all this posting from you lot. who's manning the pill press!!!! These Vietnamese pricks keep ringing me and ringing me about the next shipment....and they paid with paypal so if we aren't careful they will get a considerable portion of their money back and paypal won't let us buy legitimate stolen bike parts from genuine fake businesses anymore.

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Shit ,for a second I thought you were talking about Amway.[:o)]

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Quiz for ya ;):D

Which club does this describe?

Has a very tough initiation ceremony.
Once you`re in you`re in for life, unless kicked out in disgrace or dead.
Has its own heirarchy of ranks and officers.
Has very few if any female members.
Has its own signs for club members and its own language.
Has its own club houses with admission for members or their guests only.
Club regalia must be worn in the club house/meetings.
You take into your home and shelter other club members when asked to.
What is discussed in the clubhouse stays there.
The club runs annual events raising thousands of pounds for worthy charities.
Total loyalty to the club is moot.
You further the aims of the club and bring in new potential members.








The club is: .... The Freemasons ;)

Irony [:o)]

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They go under the name IBS now I think :D

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ps- who the fuck would want to be a member of a golf club?

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Der Fimp, GOPHERS..

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1278595211.jpg

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Not yet...but then again it was only today that the NSW police applied to have the HA declared so who knows...

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I can see it now:

Lawyer - Yes your Honour we have two clubs we would like to outlaw today;
The first is the Hells Angels. Amongst other things they beat a man to death with a steel pole in front of hundreds of witnesses all of which was a result of their well organised drug trade.

Secondly we have an internet forum.
This one guy did a wheelie and we have it on good authority that another of these dastardly individuals does not have adequate distance between his indicators and headlight.

Judge - Get the fuck out of my court room.

^ i bet if you mentioned we attend regular keyboard warrior combat and technical training seminars, they would throw the book at us..

lol

From what I'v read it seems that the "A few bad apples" theory makes a lot of people try & justify these criminal activities, when more to the point its the club as a whole that is in fact THE bad apple! I grew up around the local rebs in my town, my best mates dad was sargent in arms for the majority of our school years. He was one of the nicest blokes I'v ever met, still a bad arse tho! And that went for all the members that I'v met over the years. Im still mates with some of them, but they are not in any way shape or form law abiding citizens! The club as a whole is the way it is because that is their way of life, & if you want to be a part of that u must live like they do too! I dnt buy it that only a couple of em to naughty stuff, thats bollox! They are a business & they all have their jobs!
Im indifferent to whether or not the HA's get outlawed, im not one so it doesnt affect my life. If those laws come to have further reaching consequences (ie ASF) then u bet I will have something to say but I dnt believe it will come to that. Mainly due to the fact that ASF is not a criminal organisation! Our members having criminal records are irrelevant! And this is the issue I believe, its not "a few bad apples" its an organised crime racket that the cops are tryin to crack dwn on! Will it help? Probably not, but I think calling our civil rights into it is a bit much...
Just my 2c tho...

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Pardon?

Clubs themselves aren't the issue here, it is the illegal activities that these clubs are involved in.
I failed to see any such activities stated by HOS relating to the Freemasons, so his point is vague and irrelevant at best and not even close to ironic.

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Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane murderer) and the local Top Cop were both Freemasons. Many concerns raised by the townsfolk about Hamiltons kiddy fiddling activities, and the fact that he owned several pistols that he liked to show off to the local youths were continuously ignored. Maybe the cops were too lazy to do their jobs, maybe they were corrupt, maybe they were disinclined to believe that another Wor Bro could do anything wrong.

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But I don't bother with silly dresses

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Bullshit, we've heard the rumours[xx(].

'THE BRONZE, TAKE OUR PRIDE' but NOT OUR BALLS..!

Nope all mine are real nice ;)

you always hear this "oh i know BLAH BLAH BLAH, he is the nicest bloke ever and loves puppies" sort of stuff
im not buying it

i live near a clubhouse now and sometimes when i go to the nightclub they are all there
i leave

want nothing to do with them or their rules

hmm my only experiences with the HAs have been working for them and have all been very positive, always invited to there clubhouse to have drinks and found them to be a nice bunch of guys, never had a single issue with obtaining payment from them based on verbal agreement.

i like that there organised enough to have there own culture, ive never experienced anything bad from them at all most promoters i work for are far worse haha

also to some of the ASF people who look at "harley gangs" as bad criminals, thats exactly what joe public considers you to be on youre matt black GSXR haha

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ive never experienced anything bad from them at all

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That is because you are not a competing drug dealer, nor do you wear a patch from a rival "group of friendly bike riders"

Well thats not an issue really is it Jacktar? If there only clobbering other dealers and patch club bikers were all in the clear, it is rare I would bet that they ever bother anyone from "normal society" asside of making them feel uncomfortable maybe (mostly due to societys normaisation views).

I figure someone is going to do it might as well be them, happy let em be and make a profit from the retards that buy they wares. Just as long as there little wars don't get to out of hand and spill into "Friendly society" , at least the majority of the time they prefer to keep things "In house" when dealing with squables to avoid extra police attention.

And why do you think they want to avoid "police attention"? Must be those pesky BBqs they have for kids hey?

'Ooo their all drug dealers' .....
Yeah ? Well who on here has ever done illegal drugs ???
Where do they come from ?.....Dealers....

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Yeah ? Well who on here has ever done illegal drugs ???

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'Ooo their all drug dealers' .....
Yeah ? Well who on here has ever done illegal drugs ???
Where do they come from ?.....Dealers....

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Personally, when I procure my illicit drugs I ensure that the dealers are reputable. I would never buy an illegal substance from people that live by an ethos that completely contradicts my own.
Much like how I insist my coffee is 100% organic and harvested from a sustainable ecosystem, I also ensure that my dealers are fine, upstanding members of the community that donate a certain percentage of their profits back into to the local community...

What like the Ulysses? :)

All the Ulyssians I know are dope smokers and to lazy to deal haha

I think this is getting waay off topic...
the main issue I see is that the authorities are rushing through laws that MAY be used against anyone....
Lets put aside the good bikie/bad bikie whingeing for a minute...

Fair call Sharky, let's get back on topic:

"The Hells Angels are possibly going to be declared a criminal organisation because their reason for existing is to engage in criminal activity"

Is this the basic story that the police are putting out there?

What does "1%er" mean, and what are its origins?

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Fuck that shit, boring cunts.

The crux of the issue is bad bikies. How is that off topic?

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It was originally meant as an insult to the clubs by the AMA when they decleared that 99% of the american bike clubs were good....Unfortunately for them the MC's liked it and thus became the 1%

Calling someone a 99er was an insult many years ago.

99% flock / 1% wolves.

Too much flock in the way, more so nowadays :D

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I think this is getting waay off topic...
the main issue I see is that the authorities are rushing through laws that MAY be used against anyone....
Lets put aside the good bikie/bad bikie whingeing for a minute...

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Spot on !

WE have boat loads of new generic laws in the UK they can bust you for anything using 1/2 a dozen different "one size fits all" laws.

You are right about how these things develop and there is a plan to them.

What they cannot bring in through direct action they will slime in under the back door over a longer period of time.

Its a filthy socialist cowards way of politics called "Evolution not Revolution"

Glad someone mentioned Hollie Grieg - google it. Will make you want to go out and hack someone up.

I smoke puff... I got to get it somewhere... someone has to grow/smuggle and sell it. It it was legalised........ takes a lot of crims out of the equasion.

1% is the percentage of people who aren't the norm, living to the rules - an outlaw club. Also a Aussie footie according to wiki :D

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Glad someone mentioned Hollie Grieg - google it. Will make you want to go out and hack someone up.

I smoke puff... I got to get it somewhere... someone has to grow/smuggle and sell it. It it was legalised........ takes a lot of crims out of the equasion.

1% is the percentage of people who aren't the norm, living to the rules - an outlaw club. Also a Aussie footie according to wiki :D

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Hey NoZ,

How you doing ? :)

Yeah bad stuff with Hollie.[xx(] Did you check out the pienmashfilms website?

seen ur mentioning 'ruskie tribe' taken it as an invitition to the dispute ;) well my thought is we r all criminalised cept cruise naturally we all disregard the law as the law disregards us we dont like to pay taxes - we all know where they go to and its a crime we like dope we luv underaged girls - they grow up on fast food real fast [8D] anyone would kill to revenge for ones own - those all r felony now, so stop pretendin' we r innocent sheep if u'v got guts enough to im doing lots of illegal things cos i just dont give a fuck about the law or authorities just being precaucious not to be caught those who claim to be "loyal god fearing citizens" r real pervert bastards, child molestrators, corruptionists they r the real criminals we r just angels beside them

concerning the bikie clubs i feel the same with them 'bout the law im just of any club cos i deadly hate any hierarchy unless im on the top [8D]

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seen ur mentioning 'ruskie tribe' taken it as an invitition to the dispute ;) well my thought is we r all criminalised cept cruise naturally we all disregard the law as the law disregards us we dont like to pay taxes - we all know where they go to and its a crime we like dope we luv underaged girls - they grow up on fast food real fast [8D] anyone would kill to revenge for ones own - those all r felony now, so stop pretendin' we r innocent sheep if u'v got guts enough to im doing lots of illegal things cos i just dont give a fuck about the law or authorities just being precaucious not to be caught those who claim to be "loyal god fearing citizens" r real pervert bastards, child molestrators, corruptionists they r the real criminals we r just angels beside them

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Hoped you`d pop in ;)

Fair comments.

I will not be told in infinite minor detail what to do or not do by some self-appointed fuckers in charge who are about decent as my arse after a Chicken Phall.

Its hard not to break the law with so many of em. Best to just genrally disregard them as many do.

Just one pecking order for another.. fuck that. My mate's dreaming of being a patch.. told him it's not SOA lol... don't see the appeal but if that's what he wants to do, then fairy muff

definetly an interesting topic anyhow, reminds me why i enjoy living away from australia so much sometimes haahaa the simple joy of riding my unroadworthy/unregoed motorcycle without a license while baked on drugs/alcohol and not wearing appropriate safety gear hackin wheelies and gettin loose with no law enforced consequences is something i dont think i can leave anytime soon :) LOL

i think australia is getting way too over regulated/policed in my opinion.

more and more of my riding mates are getting kicked out of carparks for stunting so have no option but to not have plates and take it to the streets, not ideal but its happening more and more. police are enforcing the law without proper consideration, it pisses me off.

off topic but thats my rant over haha

For those who are interested, here is the link detailing the `new law`...if you can`t be assed reading it all, skip to section 35. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/s.../saoca2008352/

I don`t do drugs (anymore hehehe), nor do I engage in any illegal activity aside from the occasional traffic offence.
I am in violation of the law because some of my associates and family members HAPPEN to be either members of so-called `outlaw` organisations or engage in illegal activity.
So i have some funky friends....LOCK ME UP!

They are starting with HA because the mainstream identify them as bad asses, therefore don`t care what happens to them. They are an easy mark...but the way the law is written anyone and almost everyone could be next.
Agree with this fascist bullshit at your own peril folks

Hmmm interesting reading , so if I go to a pub regualy and play a game of pool with a HA (knowingly or not) or other club deemed to be "bad men" by the sphinkter police a few times a week over a few months and they see us talking I'm commiting an offence with the penalty of 5 years imprisonment ! Got to love BULLSHIT laws lol I feel so much better now that this law is being pushed into place, safer already. haha