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Like a T sit the stem on a peice of wood so you dont damage the thread. and use a large socket (bigger than the bottom of the stem) so its only touching the triple. a couple of sharp taps on the socket should workQuote:
quote:Originally posted by Seifer
I'm still unclear of where it is that im to hit and where the pipe goes, which way up etc, could someone please clarify. ie describe in more detail. Thanks
This sounds like fun so tomorrow i will take my 03 front end and my 89 triple tree to the work shop and set up the 03 usd to go into my early model chassis, i will take befor and after pics for all to see, and if i can get some help i will try and get some photos of the work in progress
Great mate. If you get the photos I'll do a "how to" for the main site area. Let me know (and if anyone else wants to do a write up on removing stems (or anything else for that matter to build up the HOW TO section a bit) let me know also.
Deano EXACTLY what stem did you use, i used the one out of my early model ( 86 gsxr 750 ) and you are right about the bearing sizes BUT the diameter of the stem below the bearing ( IE the part of the stem that gets pressed into the bottom triple clamp ) is 30.2mm on the new ( 03 ) stem and 30mm on the old ( 86 ) stem leaving me with a clearance of .2mm int the bottom clamp, this is not a problem as i have access to a welder and lathe ( or more to the point Stevo has ) and will weld and remachine the stem to suit, how ever this info should be pointed out to those of you who were or are going to use an early model stem ( apprently they are all the same untill the srad but i can't say for sure )
Unfortunatly I didn't get the camra that i was supposed to ( due to the flooding around here the bloke with it couldn't get over to my place ) so no photos, call me a sucker for punishment but i'm going to pull the front out of the '90 1100 and disasemble the triple tree to see if it is the same as the 86 stem or not, I'll try for photos when i do that proberly tomorrow.
Bit of an update, the '90 stem as the same as the '86 so once again no use to me, so stevo will do the '86 stem mod for me this week end and i will see how we go next week
clive.
it took me 3 stems to get one to fit. they are dirrenerce tolerances. you may find the next stem you find will be the same.
it was lucky for me that the only straight usable stem was the one that was the correct tolerance. i measured the k4 stem then the early stem and they were exactly the same so i then pressed it in.
Stems are all the same till SRAD. they then went the 30mm top and bottom compared to the early 25mm top 30mm bottom.
good luck
thanks Deano, but i only have the two stems avalible to me at the moment (they are both the same and both have 30.0mm tolerance on the bottom of the shaft) and i don't want to chance getting another without knowing it will be the right size, .2mm is a big diffrence in tolerance especially if you are talking about on a 30mm shaft, it not the diffrence in the wear of a cutting tip, anyway it dosen't matter as i am going to build up the bottom end of the stem with weld and machine it to the same as the 03 dimentions, whis way i am garenteed the right sizes and fit to the 03 bottom triple clamp.
:Dfinished the stem today and pressed the stem into the clamp, and installed the bearing as well, machined he bush to gointo the top clamp and fitted it, just need new bearing for the top clamp to complete it, but i also need to find a new home for the clocks and dont know if i want them on the triple clamp or mount thme on the faring bracket.
03 front end is now happly at home in the gsxr1100 ( 90 ) all went smoothly, i have decided to put the clocks back on the top tripple so i will do that at work tomorrow, as well as making the adaptors to fit the 90 model front wheel as well, also i am going to use the 03 stearing dampiner as well, so i have to mod the faring bracket to take the fixed mount, but that will have to wait till thursday.
Must be getting close to piccie time mate.
yer only got to get the camra to be able to take pics with ;/
but looking good so far
You workin out of stevo's shop can drop by with a camera if needed....BTW the 03 gixxer must be lookin a bit "lean" by now.
To date it's Clives 90/03 and "anything in steves shed" Bitsa gixxer....good shit I reckon.
Goin by stevos determined look when describing the engine work..Oohh baby sounds good.
I'll go past tomorrow if ya there so be it.
thanks dave but the bike is at my house i only doing the mods that i can't do at home ( ie welding and machning )at the shop, i will be over there tomorrow but will be finishing about 4 oclock as i am taking a drag bike ( boots ) out to the strip in the arvo to test the new carbies that we put in this arvo, it feels better, and sounded crisper, hopefully the jetting and needle combo are close to what we are after.
Ok got the clocks back in place with no problems, had to use the 90 model ignition barrel as the 03 fouled on the chassis, and the conector was differnt as well, the trick to doing this is drill out the mounting holes to take the 03 screws.
I have finished the axel adaptor/spacers and remounted to front wheel ( 90 ) back in place including the original speedo drive, all the is left now in to service the callipers and put a 5mm spacer underneth them to fit over the larger breaks of the L model and then have a braded hose made up to suit. all going well i will have this done on monday, then the next thing to get done on the bike is fit a new tail pipe and the tri oval can onto it.
Dave if you want to come around and take some pics of it for me that would be great, just give me a ring on 0405276179 to orgnise a time.
Same problem lies with using R1 Triple Clamps onto Gixxer fork legs you will need to modify or metal spray the gixxer bottom bearing mount on the steering stem to suit Yamaha bottom Triple Clamp about .2mm. I've had to destroy a triple clamp or two to push out the pin some times.Probably should have heated up the item.
heating the clamp is definatly the way to go, i only used a small press but with heating the clamp it was a breez
DAM DAM DAM
the trials and tribulations for this front end sarga continue
Got the calipers done this morning, used two washers to space the radial calipers out ( tempory fix untill im 100% happy that the conversions is going to work ) GOOD.
BAD = the disks on the l model wheel are 4mm two wide ( 2mm a side ) so now i have to make a decision on which way to go with the disks
1 Do i machine the rim to bring back the offset to where it should be
2 Do i use the 03 disks and machine spacers to bring them out to the correct offset
3 Do i get a new set of carriers made to eliminate the need to do either of the above options
which way would you go and how much would it cost to have a set on carriers make to suit, i would need the actual disk as i already have them in both sizes
or dose anyone have any other suggestions.
Cheers Clive
you will be right mate.
a standard wheel on with standard W discs. (same as L) fits fine. the pads just sit is different spots. just take care when the discs are getting low incase the pistons get close to popping out. i have the propper wheel and disc tho but its is out geting painted so put on the standard wheel for now.
i am pretty sure mundy is running the same set up.
if you need can get you pics of where the disc is in relation to the centre of the caliper
good luck
thanks mate did it on another bike ( stunt bike 03 gixxer with busa wheel ) and had no probs but i am a bit more picky with this one and would like to get it right, it has yet to go through a roadworthy so would like it to be spot on,
I have just thought of option no 4 but not to sure about it yet
Option on 4 Put the 03 gixxer front wheel back in and try to fit the 03 gixxer rear wheel to match the front.