NSW to ban Re Registering Repairable Write Offs

[Large]

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/100408_car_rebirthing.pdf

Another stupid policy from a corrupt goverrnment.

How come if the vehicle is unsafe. it isn't being picked up during the $450 inspection that the rta does?

[Shadowzone]

That's just fucked motorcycle disposals business then.

In saying that - you can still rego it interstate so Using the lads in QLD or VIC as your address for rego isnt the end of the world. AND it fucks the RTA when you wish to transfer Rego as they can't refuse to register an already rego'd roadworthy vehicle.

[sen]

That's fucking fucked.

[fimpBIKES]

dont worry lads, as long as there are people dumb enough not to have insurance on their brand new bikes
and ebay is around
we shall continue to fight!!!

[mitch.lax]

quote:Originally posted by sen

That's fucking fucked.


Fuck oath.

Wonder if the bikes can be "parted out" and sold. Then at least everything but the frame is salvageable.

[bluemk1]

on the plus side it makes for a cheap track bike

[Chase]

This means insurance costs will rise because insurance agents will no longer be able to get the same vehicle value back at auction and consequently will be more likely to want to repair bikes rather than write them off.. meaning we pay more. Cunts. :(:(

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Large

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/100408_car_rebirthing.pdf

Another stupid policy from a corrupt goverrnment.

How come if the vehicle is unsafe. it isn't being picked up during the $450 inspection that the rta does?


That fucks your plans aye mate:(

[Jockney Rebel]

time to get into wrecking bikes ....wrings his hands

[sen]

What does this mean for existing registered write offs?

Will they not be renewable?

That would REALLY suck.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by sen

What does this mean for existing registered write offs?

Will they not be renewable?

That would REALLY suck.


Nah they couldn't do that. But there may be a problem if you let the rego lapse

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by sen

What does this mean for existing registered write offs?

Will they not be renewable?

That would REALLY suck.


Nah they couldn't do that. But there may be a problem if you let the rego lapse


I'm sure as the Goverment always does, they will have a cut off date.

In other words anything before "this date" that has gone through the system is fine.
Anything after "this date" will fall under the new system and you'll be fucked, so don't panic.
But something to be mindful of is if you a building a project from a repairable rightoff at the moment- and your build goes past the date they say the law changes you will be fucked regardless of when you brought your bike.
If your trying to reregister after the date your screwed.

[Zooks]

Don't bitch here. Write to the minister, newspapers and media. That will give you a chance to actually have a say in the legislative process. Remember that we live in a democracy folks.

Whinging here does very little in comparison.

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Zooks

Don't bitch here. Write to the minister, newspapers and media. That will give you a chance to actually have a say in the legislative process. Remember that we live in a democracy folks.

Whinging here does very little in comparison.


I wasn't whinging i was stating the facts of how it usually is with government.[:X]

And i think you'll find theres more to it than just stopping re-pairable writeoffs.
It will have something to do with trying to stop rebirthing and motorcycle theft for that purpose.

[Bear]

Yep, I reckon it's to stop rebirthing and theft. That's why they charge you a $450 inspection fee/blue slip pit inspection. It's just to check number tampering.

[Zooks]

Who gets charged $450 for a blue slip??

[mitch.lax]

No-one. It's $450 for a combination of Blue slip and a "special" inspection you need to reregister a repairable write off, AFAIK.

[Zooks]

Oh, fair enough.

[Large]

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/otherinformation/written-off_vehicles.html?rlid=5


Registering a repairable write-off

To register a repairable written-off vehicle, you will need to:

*
Obtain an inspection report (blue slip) from an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station (AUVIS). You need to provide proof of repair (original receipts for parts purchased and repairs carried out) to the AUVIS examiner. For AUVIS fees, see Vehicle Inspectors Bulletin 18 in the related links above right. For locations of AUVIS stations, phone 1300 137 302.
*
Attend a motor registry in person and provide:
o
The AUVIS inspection report (blue slip)
o
A completed Application for Registration (the AUVIS examiner will give you this)
o
Proof of repairs (as presented to the AUVIS examiner)
o
Any other required documents (eg proof of identity, proof of acquisition, CTP insurance etc - see Get a new registration for full details)

**In areas where the Vehicle Identification Inspection Unit (VIIU) operates, repairable written-off vehicles less than 10 years old are inspected by RTA Vehicle Identification Inspectors to confirm their identity. A fee is payable to the RTA for these inspections in addition to any fees payable in obtaining the blue slip (see Registration fees in the related links above right). If you fail to attend your VIIU booking or do not give 24 hours' notice to change your booking you will be charged a further booking fee.

The motor registry will advise you if your vehicle requires a VIIU inspection, and will book the inspection for you. This initial booking must be made in person at a motor registry, although changes to this booking (eg rescheduling) can be made via the RTA Contact Centre. The vehicle cannot be registered until it has passed a VIIU inspection.

In areas where VIIU is not operating, the AUVIS examiner will conduct a written-off vehicle check.

**Last time I checked, the VIIU inspection was ~$60 to book and ~$360 for the actual inspection, + the blue slip inspection so approx $450 all up....unless you live out in the country, where the local cop can do the inspection for free.

Interestingly, m ZX12 is now 10 years old (03/00) build date, so if that info is correct, it shouldn't need the fee to be paid.

[hyofighter]

hey large not sure on how it goes over ther but here they have brought in th same thing as of 1st of march 2010 but if you purchased a repairable write off before this time it need not apply as long as you have the reciet to prove you bought it before that time

hopefully this is true as i purchased the vfr just before march and then had a chat to the inspecting mob in town here and he said i was safe

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by hyofighter

hey large not sure on how it goes over ther but here they have brought in th same thing as of 1st of march 2010 but if you purchased a repairable write off before this time it need not apply as long as you have the reciet to prove you bought it before that time

hopefully this is true as i purchased the vfr just before march and then had a chat to the inspecting mob in town here and he said i was safe


That's all I want to hear from the RTA and i'll sleep soundly. Otherwise plan b is to get the 10 engineered and on the road asap

[fimpBIKES]

got stung with that inspection on the TLR
it was a joke, all he cared about were receipts
it was definitely NOT about safety

interestingly though, when i got the katana rego'd again the other week
even though it had previously been rego'd in NSW in my name
they STILL needed to take a copy of the original engineers certificate
and now they are also testing to see if the engineer who issued the certificate is still valid on their system

now, i guess i got lucky and the bloke who did my certificate (waaay back in 1996) must still be in business and on the register
cos from what they told me, if he hadnt kept himself on the register then the certificate wouldnt have been valid
and i would have had to had the bike re-engineered
just another speed-bump from the RTA trying to get people to be good consumers and happily buy brand new (unmodified) cars every few years as they drop out of warranty

baaaa, baaaaa

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES


interestingly though, when i got the katana rego'd again the other week
even though it had previously been rego'd in NSW in my name
they STILL needed to take a copy of the original engineers certificate
and now they are also testing to see if the engineer who issued the certificate is still valid on their system

now, i guess i got lucky and the bloke who did my certificate (waaay back in 1996)


What did you need to get engineered on the Kat?

[fimpBIKES]

chassis bracing, from 3 or 4 owners ago (the owner that we happened to run into at afr, i also finally found out why the chassis has no compliance plate :D)

[Cruisecontrol]

Haha, small world.
I asked because I had a 750 with exactly that frame colour that I sold years ago and wondered just maybe...

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by hyofighter

hey large not sure on how it goes over ther but here they have brought in th same thing as of 1st of march 2010 but if you purchased a repairable write off before this time it need not apply as long as you have the reciet to prove you bought it before that time

hopefully this is true as i purchased the vfr just before march and then had a chat to the inspecting mob in town here and he said i was safe


It appears that WA hasn't changed to not re registering reparable write offs, but have formalised the procedure some way-

Vehicles recorded as Repairable Write-Offs:

Every vehicle purchased on or after 1 March 2010 that has been entered into the Written-Off Vehicle Register (WOVR) as a Repairable Write-Off is required to be inspected and passed by an Approved Provider before it is presented to an Approved Inspection Station or Vehicle Examination Centre for an examination for identity and roadworthiness for re-licensing of the vehicle.

Approved providers:

* Written-Off Vehicle, Restricted Authorised Inspection Stations (pdf 29kb)

The Approved Provider will determine whether the vehicle complies with high standards of workmanship of:

* structural integrity
* welding and/or;
* electrical systems.

From - http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourvehicle/1379.asp#3

[RevHead]

quote:Originally posted by Large

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/100408_car_rebirthing.pdf

Another stupid policy from a corrupt goverrnment.

How come if the vehicle is unsafe. it isn't being picked up during the $450 inspection that the rta does?
and now nrma are going to open there own wrecking yards and and all the other insurance companies will be crushing there wrecks ,fuckin dickheads,,,,its going to make buying a wreck really pricey

[RevHead]

quote:Originally posted by damo1


quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by sen

What does this mean for existing registered write offs?

Will they not be renewable?

That would REALLY suck.


Nah they couldn't do that. But there may be a problem if you let the rego lapse[V]cut off is 29th september 2010 cheers ,current repaired wrecks no problems past wrecks now registered doesnt apply


I'm sure as the Goverment always does, they will have a cut off date.

In other words anything before "this date" that has gone through the system is fine.
Anything after "this date" will fall under the new system and you'll be fucked, so don't panic.
But something to be mindful of is if you a building a project from a repairable rightoff at the moment- and your build goes past the date they say the law changes you will be fucked regardless of when you brought your bike.
If your trying to reregister after the date your screwed.
[V][V]

[Bear]

Anyone know if this emmendment has gone through? I checked out the RTA website and it still has advice up for registering repairable write-offs.
I've spotted a bike I'd like at auction.

[80s freak]

Apparently it has been confirmed for September 1st. With Victoria not far behind. I can't be 100% on this yet tho.

[rock hard]

Hey Large,Yeah here in W.A.the WOVA system just kicked off we are one of the aproved stations ,there are a few gliches in the system
but the biggest problem so far is that the lack of information in regards to what people are required to do (reciepts photos etc)there is a small pamphlet but mostly we have to explain to the customer whats required.we charge $95/hour for the inspection,depending on the original damage the inspection is straight forward there is a lot of paperwork but so far most jobs are around $95.as a motorcycle repair shop we always see bikes that have been slapped together and sold to some poor bastard who finishes up getting burnt,The main reason the rego dept wanted to contract the inspections out was that they didnt know what to look for. You reinforced the reason why i will never move back to NSW with the inspection charges you mention
for blue slips etc.NSW has a history of arse raping motorcyclists with everything that you try and enjoy you just pay and pay.there is No annual inspections here no pink or blue slips its reasonably cheap
to rego your vehicles here but there are none of the roads that you guys have in abundance.pity..

[Large]

I wrote to the rta after I had my sook here...After about 6 weeks I got this reply-

"Good Morning Mr Large

I am replying to you email regarding your 3 motorcycles that are previous written-off vehicles. I apologise for the lateness in replying.

Vehicles recorded on the Written-Off Vehicle Register (WOVR) as repairable write-offs before August 2010 will be eligible to be re-registered providing all existing registration requirements are met.

This means that motorbikes currently recorded as repairable write-offs will not be affected by the new reform.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if any further clarification is required.

Yours sincerely

Jean Chummun
Registration Policy Officer"

[80s freak]

That's good Large, at least they haven't just shut the door on everyone.

[Gix11]

Good info Rich, thanks for posting it mate.

[Jockney Rebel]

yeah cheers rich that helps immensly with what im about to do as well [applying for a wreckers licence]

[Large]

Well the new laws are up on the RTA website, but 31st jan has come and gone, and the talk is nothing will change until august-

"Will any vehicles written-off after the legislation is introduced be able to be registered?
Applications to repair and register a written-off vehicle will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
The registered vehicle operator (or owner if the vehicle is not registered) can apply to the RTA for an authorisation to repair if the vehicle is:

* In an exempt vehicle category,
* Kept by the same registered operator or owner, and
* Able to be repaired to legislated standards.

What are the exempt vehicle categories?
Exempt vehicle categories include:

* High market value
* Hail damage
* Low production run
* First or last in production run or model range
* Personally imported
* Individually constructed
* Inherited
* Owned for five years or more by the registered operator
* Registered operator is a member of a recognised enthusiasts club for vehicles of that type."

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/written_off_vehicles/written-off_vehicles_reforms.html

[Booster]

* Registered operator is a member of a recognised enthusiasts club for vehicles of that type."

Thats us , enthusiasts for repairing damaged motorcycles :)

[sen]

Awesome, how do we go about getting ASF recognised as an enthusiasts club?

Or do we have to start a "Modified Motorcycle Enthusiasts Association", with free membership for every single rider out there (basically negating their entire law) ;) hehe.

[fimpBIKES]

so they arent ditching the individually constructed vehicles rich?
good news if so :D

[Skinner]

The government: hiring more inspectors for people not to like :P

ps I've never known any government department to give exceptions lightly.