New speed Camera to catch Bikes

[rod185651]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/6846619/speeding-bikes-face-new-camera/

[Gix11]

"It means the riders of WA's more than 80,000 registered motorcycles, which do not have front plates" - you mean some do???

[alfiestorm]

"An increase in cameras and in revenue from speeding fines has the possibility of having the twofold effect of making our roads safer and providing more funding for coffe and do'h nutz."

Office of Road Safety executive officer Iain Cameron said international research had shown speed cameras were "one of the most effective ways in reducing the level of speed-related crashes".

As international research has also shown that an increase in cameras also increases reactive accidents in which people have died, which would have otherwise been alive today.
So whats best cause death by trying to prevent it with camaras (reactive accidents) or put traffic calming measures in urban areas, as for the open road out of towns etc cops with hand held detectors in trouble spots earning thier keep is a better method.
But they dont care to read the full research paper do they, just pick out what they want to shove down ya throats.

alf

[Shadowzone]

RAC head of member advocacy Matt Brown said surveys of WA motorists showed most people strongly backed the introduction of more speed cameras.

Yep. That'll happen when you poll the politicians hell bent on installing them and nobody else.

He encouraged the Government to funnel the expected increased revenue from speeding fines back into road safety initiatives.

I'd encourage them to have a turn up to work nude day, but we all know it aint gonna happen.

"Road safety took a big cut in the last State Budget and the doubling of speed cameras is a chance for the State Government to prove that that increase was not about revenue raising," Mr Brown said.

Yep. And purple pigs will fly backwards on thursdays whilst wearing pink tutus.

"An increase in cameras and in revenue from speeding fines has the possibility of having the twofold effect of making our roads safer and providing more funding for road safety."

Hmmm. Possibility. What a sensational choice of words. It also has the "possibility" of earning consolidated revenue more money for the WA Govt. to waste.

[MTBEERWAH]

Some one correct me if i`m wrong,but i`m pretty sure i heard them say on the news on easter sunday night, that 5000 people were caught speeding at that point over easter weekend in queensland,which they say was up from last year,and that the road deaths were down at the same point as last year, so this leads me to believe that speeding dosen`t kill, only attitude.

[Zooks]

If cameras are really about saving lives and not just revenue then I challenge the government to give all that money to charities that help with road related trauma, hospitals that have to fix up the accident victims and road safety education programs aimed at young people (particularly school kids).

The day that all happens I'll truly belive that it's [u]NOT</u> about revenue. Until that day, they can kiss my hairy arse. [}:)]

[Cruisecontrol]

I will take a stationary camera with signposts indicating as much a hundred feet beforehand than a mobile copper with a radar any day.

[rod185651]

I agree Dan, but do the new safety cams have the same signage?

[scrotary]

the commonwealth of australia is a corporation filed under the 'U.S. securities and exchange comission' (http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000805157&owner=exclude&count=40), all corporations exist only for PROFIT, courts run on the same win/loss ratio's as casino's, 86% for plaintiff, 14% for defendant (http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/bocsar/ll_bocsar.nsf/pages/bocsar_court_stats),
remember law is contract, speed signs are considered an adhesive contract, you pass them you are contracted to that speed, a red circle is the international symbol for 'restriction', however if the police/plaintiff can not prove you were contracted to a certain speed, you can not be fined for breach of contract...

[BANDITROD]

you always amaze me with that info scrotary

[scrotary]

i can bore or amaze people for hours with law shit

[Zooks]

The lawyers creed -

If you can't lose 'em with logic - baffle 'em with bullshit!

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

you always amaze me with that info scrotary

Thank fuck he posted the info up before I tried to go looking for it! shit takes me forever.

Speed cameras serve no purpose, but to to harvest money - simple as that, under the guise of being a road safety initiative - like I ask everyone who doubts that - how the fuck does a stationary speed camera, stop a driver doing 140k's down the road, smashing into a family of 4, killing everyone involved a few k's past the camera site... OH wait, thats right - when the next of kin open their dead family members mail and have a nice momento of the day in the form of a photo.

Then you have this whole idea of "well you were doing 10-20k's over the speed limit and MAY have had an accident if we didn't stop you" - gee .. so now you can get fined for what MIGHT happen? Better lock me up for rape, cause if I stand out in the front yard with my dick hanging out for long enough - Jessica Alba might rock up and I might feel obliged to attempt to rub another hole in her..

[HOS]

Shit statement:

"Office of Road Safety executive officer Iain Cameron said international research had shown speed cameras were "one of the most effective ways in reducing the level of speed-related crashes".

By the nature of the fact that you or someone else are`nt stationary when having a crash means it is speed related.... dumb fucks.

Two stationary vehicles don`t usually have crashes ya twat.

[thejester650]

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Shit statement:

"Office of Road Safety executive officer Iain Cameron said international research had shown speed cameras were "one of the most effective ways in reducing the level of speed-related crashes".

By the nature of the fact that you or someone else are`nt stationary when having a crash means it is speed related.... dumb fucks.

Two stationary vehicles don`t usually have crashes ya twat.
lmfao!! its fuckin all bullshit. a current affair was showing the plans to get the stationary cameras mounted onto parked cars and traffic cones like in britain! the cars are unmarked too. now if i see a marked police vehicle i slow down even if its empty. but an unmarked car? how does that slow anyone down!!! REVENUE RAISING FUCKERS!!

[DiscoDan]

quote: now if i see a marked police vehicle i slow down even if its empty. but an unmarked car? how does that slow anyone down!!! REVENUE RAISING FUCKERS!!


The arguement they bring is "you won't know where, you won't know when" which is pretty much true. Whenever I visit SA, where they hide the buggers on parked cards, you have to slow down pretty much anywhere in town or it starts getting expensive. Does it make it safer, probably not, but it does slow people down.

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by rod185651

I agree Dan, but do the new safety cams have the same signage?


They do.
There is a new camera near my place and the sign is too.

[Tony OW31]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol


quote:Originally posted by rod185651

I agree Dan, but do the new safety cams have the same signage?


They do.
There is a new camera near my place and the sign is too.


The new ones here are unsigned.

[336LJ]

I cant find the stats on the last few years - but I'm using 2004 as an example. I think the point is clear

• Based on police assessment, alcohol or drug use contributed in 34 per cent
(n=97) of fatal crashes and 10 per cent (n=2,256) of all crashes.
• Inattention contributed to 28 per cent (n=80) of fatal crashes and 32 per cent
(n=7,535) of all crashes.
• Failure to obey traffic rules contributed to 27 per cent (n=79) of fatal crashes and
41 per cent (n=9,528) of all crashes.
• Speed contributed to 18 per cent (n=52) and fatigue contributed to five per cent
(n=15) of fatal crashes. Speed contributed to five per cent (n=1,212) and fatigue
contributed to two per cent (n=491) of all crashes.