Aussie Prices Retail Assistance Please..

[Gitzy]

Nothing major, just a whinge mainly.. does anyone out there in retail world know why aussie prices are so fked..

I need a new clutch kit for the R1 so i find one on good ol Ebay. full oem replacement kit

Clutch Plates (8 Fibre & 7 Steel) clutch cover gasket and boss ring..

all i need, all i want all OEM Yamaha.. $252 delivered to my door from California..
so off i go to local yamaha dealer with part numbers to compare if I buy it from 10 min drive away.. well i stuffed up boss ring part number so all parts not including ring..

$460 .. a whole $208 more for the exact same parts from up the road.. i think i will go ebay on this one..

not just this time, but time and time again for the same services and or parts Australia seems to boost them up 100% even 200% compared to the opposite side of the planet including postage to our country why can they do it for such good prices and we cant..
can anyone tell me why this is..

[Tony Nitrous]

I think most folk know where your coming from....

My Renthals sent from the UK, better choice, here in 4 days
and at about 80% of local cost ?

FZ1 and SV6 Yoshi can's sent from the US at almost exactly
the same cost as just the SV can in Brissy ?

Being quoted over $2000 for B-King Yoshi's here and realising
they can be as low as $600-US ?

Why some Pazzo agents in the US were cautioned about selling "oversea's" ?

Ever tried looking at the cost of new bikes in the US ?

Yes, i understand different rates of tax, exchange rates, shipping,
etc etc but sometimes I still think someone is taking the piss.

When i was younger and even dumber I bought a Harley,
when I asked why it cost the same in pounds as the Yank's paid in dollar's
(at the time the exchange rate was about $2 to the pound)
he replied.."Honest answer? Because you'll pay it, and if
YOU dont someone else will"

Global markets v Internet ordering.

[Gitzy]

Def agree with you Tony,

RS3 Yoshi oval Stainless, Suzuki Dealership $900 (Back before BGW.Com) - ebay was $354 Delivered..

Pazzos back when they were $300 a set, got for $200 Delivered from US.

I like buying Aus dont get me wrong but if its almost half price to go elsewhere I will and spend money on other parts with saved cash..

I ended up going with http://www.ronniesmailorder.com/fiche_select.asp

Paid $320 Australian Delivered for all parts for clutch plus I ended up with 4 other OEM parts still beat Aussie price by over $100 not including other parts so i'm Guessin I'd be up for well over $550 for all parts if i got from Aus.

[Tony Nitrous]

To me personaly there is a big difference between buying products that
are made here, and goods that are just imported and marked up.

[scotty mac]

http://www.motoaus.com/features/motorcycle/land-of-the-free-the-brave-and-the-cheap.html




quote:Originally posted by Tony Nitrous

I think most folk know where your coming from....

My Renthals sent from the UK, better choice, here in 4 days
and at about 80% of local cost ?

FZ1 and SV6 Yoshi can's sent from the US at almost exactly
the same cost as just the SV can in Brissy ?

Being quoted over $2000 for B-King Yoshi's here and realising
they can be as low as $600-US ?

Why some Pazzo agents in the US were cautioned about selling "oversea's" ?

Ever tried looking at the cost of new bikes in the US ?

Yes, i understand different rates of tax, exchange rates, shipping,
etc etc but sometimes I still think someone is taking the piss.

When i was younger and even dumber I bought a Harley,
when I asked why it cost the same in pounds as the Yank's paid in dollar's
(at the time the exchange rate was about $2 to the pound)
he replied.."Honest answer? Because you'll pay it, and if
YOU dont someone else will"

Global markets v Internet ordering.

[lurch]

quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

I like buying Aus dont get me wrong but if its almost half price to go elsewhere I will and spend money on other parts with saved cash..



My thoughts exactly.

I've bought quite a few parts from the UK and US in the last 12 mths, after comparing local prices. Even with some costly postage (up to $130 USD)I've saved a small fortune

[sharky]

quote:To me personaly there is a big difference between buying products that
are made here, and goods that are just imported and marked up.
Totally agree mate...
BMW headlight...Oz dealer $750.....Uk dealer inc p&p $500
Motad exhaust 4-2..........$900....German dealer....$400
OEM valve guide oil seals local Yam dealer $10 each (16 valve head)...USA $80.00 the set delivered

Thats over $800 saved on 3 items alone....
I will buy parts that can fail under a warranty such as electrical stuff here but not much can go wrong with an exhaust system....

[pommie02]

its probably due to demand...or the lack of it.
how many bikes here in australia compared to the UK or the states
i buy most of my stuff from the US on ebay or cmsnl..they are cheap
just scored a acewell speedo for $150 delivered...not one of the chinese crappy ones

[Jup]

The claims are shipping, market size etc, but it's all bullshit - most of the time they have to order the part in for you anyway from overseas - and then put their mark up on it!

New set of valves for XS1100: AUS$70 each, US$70 set including shipping.

If it is true (as they claim) that it's simply a matter of "because you'll pay it" then it won't be long before "oh no, we will not pay it! We will order over the internet" becomes the norm, and maybe some of these money grabbing bastards will get real.

I recently bought a bracket for my screen (I know, such obscene language does not belong on this forum), the local retailer charged $50 more than it would have cost to import it myself. I don't mind paying a small amount extra if I'm supporting a local business, but if he'd tried to gouge me for $100 or more on a $250 part I'd have had second thoughts.

Also, if there is a quality difference, then it's another matter entirely. But when it's a Jap part being sold in this country or that country, then it's all about the cost.

[Shadowzone]

When I sold bikes a few yrs ago it wwe were told that 70% of the whole world motorcycle market is California. A quick google search (thanks for the heads up Tony) showed it's only 20% of the US Market however.

That combined with our weak as fuck Govt shafting us with international trade deals means we get fucked on price and pay more than most other cunts.

[JackTar]

You know what pisses me off, no matter what our exchange rate is we always pay the same for things from the States when we buy them in Aus. How the fuck does that work?

[Tony Nitrous]

quote:Originally posted by Shadowzone


When I sold bikes a few yrs ago it worked out that 70% of the whole world motorcycle market is California.

You do the maths.


My Math's isnt great, but.........

California has an approx population of 40 million,
Rough population count of planet earth, about 6,800 million.
About 1 in every 170 live in California.

70% of the world motorcycle market is in a State with only twice
the population of AU or two thirds the population of the UK ?

[fimpBIKES]

dont worry gitzy, frasers dont deserve your cash

go overseas on this one

[Gitzy]

Done and done..

Not only did i spend $320 on oem cutch parts and various gaskets yesterday about 2pm from Massachusetts, its already on its way, and i just received $27 refund for shipping which was over quoted.. now thats service.. so $293 for $550+ parts here in Australia.. all OEM Yamaha.. and thats including $70 shipping..

[fimpBIKES]

you'll have it sooner too
cos the dealer wont have to wait for the slow boat from japan...

[suxukifreak]

Agree on ALL the above.

Havent bought anything from a bike shop in years.

Even buy oil filters in bulk from OS.

I even got the 14 off e-bay!! [^]

[alfiestorm]

Totaly understand why you guys are pissed at the prices of spares and go faster goodies.
I found it real hard to accept the cost of anything to do with bikes in oz during the time I spent there and didnt accept it either.
I ended up buying from the uk and us markets.

Anyone thought of looking into supplying parts, perhaps setting up your own outlet and selling on the stuff at a small profit.
Just an idea, might work for someone as a side line. I would think they would become quite busy


alf

[lurch]

quote:Originally posted by alfiestorm

Anyone thought of looking into supplying parts, perhaps setting up your own outlet and selling on the stuff at a small profit.
Just an idea, might work for someone as a side line. I would think they would become quite busy


alf


Its something my mrs and I have talked about. Would love to set up our own bike shop/business and actually stock (yes that's right -stock, not order as required) decent parts, riding gear etc that is hard to find here in Oz. Really gives me the shits, I've made numerous trips to Brisbane (closest major city to me) thinking I would be able to get what I wanted off the shelf and left bitterly fucking disappointed. All a dream at the moment though and I suppose if it was that easy everybody would be doing it

[Tony Nitrous]

Went looking at Renthals today, could only find the usual dirtbike bar's.
Normal dumb shop staff kept asking what model they were to fit so
they could look them up in the "fitment list".
They did confirm that Renthal dont import much of the range to AU.
They also argued they dirt bike bar's are fine on streetbikes,
They are not if they dont have 190 to 200mm to fit the grip's, mastercylinder
clamps and the EXTRA switchgear the dirtbikes dont have.

Home. Jumped on the net.

Black 750mm Renthal Streetfighter bar's,
delivered to my door from the UK,

$77.

No UK VAT to pay because they are exported.
No AU import tax as they are for personal use under the $ limit.

[alfiestorm]

I suppose realy you already have cheap parts availability via the internet's world market, if you were company bringing the stuff in then the oz government would stuff you highly with imports duty then stuff you extra on top of that with gst.

Internet the way to go for you guys I rekon



alf

[Tony Nitrous]

Yeah, i almost said the same thing.
Personal imports come in tax free to the door...;)

[Jockney Rebel]

i agree with you lot ...
example : brake shoes for my transit $840 Aud .....yes you read it right
UK ? 16.11 pounds plus 10quid to send em
the packagiing on the aussie ones is from southhampton lol same as the ones im getting
i phoned a mate who still works at Fords in England and asked him for an explanation
answer? no idea ......they pay slightly less than i do
me :from my local ford dealer as to why their so dear ?
answer: supply and demand mate ...theres no demand for them !!!
me : erm but your post office run a huge fleet of them ?
answer: yeah but they dont get their spares from us
where do they get their spares? the factory in Turkey lol

[boris]

quote:Originally posted by Jockney Rebel

i agree with you lot ...
example : brake shoes for my transit $840 Aud .....yes you read it right

theres a reason we in the trade call them tragedy vans you know jim while your ordering parts get an alternator and starter sent over to or have you already done them:D

[Jockney Rebel]

alternators the same as a cortina/capri/granada/escort[and yeah i do have a spare lol] but i need a starter for a pinto engine tho .[i worked at the factory that makes these and i can tell you the twin cam lump that was put in em after 92 was a lash up ford made untill the zetec was ready ][mind you they last if they see enough clean oil ]
.... my vans one of the last to use the old pinto 2.0litre lump not that over complicated twin cam after thot of an engine thats in the mk4s and 5s[vf-vg]:}

[chadams]

My first post in a while.... We we get fucked in Oz with retail prices is due to exclusive buying deals that Oz importer / distributors set up. For example, A US wheel maker will make a wheel for $100 cost. The wheel will then be sold directly to US retailers for $150, the US retailer will then sell to the public for $300. Now in OZ with have an exclusive import deal on the wheel, the importer will pay $150, they will sell to the retailer for $300 who will then sell to the public for $600.... we get fucked every time... This practice of exclusive import rights is every where within Australian retail businesses, hence most of the time we can buy direct from a US retailer and skip one of the middleman, remembering most retailers will mark up prices between 50% and 100%. I would love to support local businesses but not when they are fucking us all over with an extra middleman.