SOME MEMBERS ARE TIME WASTERS

[damo1]

Seriously theres a great deal of people on this site that do the right thing for others and the Fighter community here in Aus and around the globe.

But seriously i'm sick of getting fucked around by members that say they are going to buy stuff off ya and ask you to hang onto it for them until they can get some money together, or time to come and collect it.

It fuckn pisses me off that these members think they have the right to ask you to do the right thing by them and then not even have the decency to then get back to you and tell you they dont actually want the stuff at all or where there at with there end of things.

I've currently got 2 members that have been fucking me around for probably a mth now and a 3rd that i'm waiting to hear back from after doing a deal with them and have now heard nothing for a week( but xmas could be his excuse)And i'm not talking about you Lucas.

If you dont want to by something then fuck off and stop waisting every bodies time and let them sell to someone who actually wants the gear, doesn't just pretend to.

It's almost like dealing with fuckn children sometimes, like they need to say yes, just so no-one else can have it.

So for those who know they have fucked me around FUCK YOU!!

All my parts are back on the market and you will not get a look in this time around.

Lucas The bike deal is still going ahead;)

And DCracing The carbs are still yours as discussed, please let me know otherwise.

This is my 2c and having a rant[^]

[robmac]

Rants work better if you spell everything correctly. No such word as waisting.............

I know what you mean about people fucking you around though. It's hard keeping faith in the human race sometimes. Try running you're own business and you will find these people tend to surface quite quickly and on a regular basis. You soon learn to spot them from a thousand paces and avoid raising your blood pressure. I think I read somewhere you are about to start a business.......remember deep breathing and keep smiling whilst calling them idiots in ur head : )

Good luck

[kev@vcm]

i get emails and fone calls every week by people wanting work done and them telling me how cool my work is and they will get me to do all there work ......... never ever hear back from them i started my business this yr and the first part of it was daunting heaps of calls buy no 1 sending there seats to me but after a while i just let it go an ran my own race.

you have every right to be angry its unfair.what ever your doing in business mate i wish you all the best

[holyman_999]

quote:Originally posted by robmac

Try running you're own business


Grammar helps too!!!
[}:)]:D[}:)]:D[}:)]
Sorry dudes... couldn't resist!!!

I'm with you one the whole time-wasting thing.
Don't let it get to you. Call them (or IM, or whatever) and tell them they have 24 hours to contact you, or it's back on the market. Do it on your terms. It's the only way to deal with these fuckers, and not blow a gasket!;)

[Tony Nitrous]

I know what your saying Damo, there have been a few times i've missed
out on stuff just because i've had enough of being f#cked about in the past.
Not on this forum, but I sold a bike to a "Mate" to get him back on the road
at what it cost me (without my time and labour fixing it up)
only for him to sell it on straight away at 100% profit.

On here I try and stick to folk who I know have a good name or folk I
know i'll be seeing about or at AFR etc. Limits it a bit though.

Having said that, I have always been happy to deal with Ozkat or Devo.
Sharky/Russ even phoned me up when he spotted something I wanted,
he bought it, said fetch it/pay me later.
Gitzy sent me 2 parcels of stuff with a "pay me later".
All top blokes.

[Ross_247]

Im sick of the dodgy cunts ( not on this forum, on bike sales/bike point )

have a read of my reply.. read bottom up ..

From: ross_247@hotmail.com
To: bathclark@live.com
Subject: RE: Enquiry from BikePoint Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:17 +1100

Hi Bath

how bout you go and fuk your self up the ass, and while your at it stick your smelly black cock up your sons, that can be his suprise, and I tell ya wot, after your finished I'll fuking stick a pole up your ass the size of a telegraph pole.

dont fuking waiste my time or I will find you.

Ross


From: bathclark@live.com
To: ross_247@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Enquiry from BikePoint Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:09:21 +0930

Thanks for the mail i will like to know the present condition of the bike and how much you are willing to sell it cos i am buying it as a new-year gift for my son and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and i really want the bike to be a surprise for him,so i wont let him know anything about it until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be very happy with it.I will pay you with my paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address so i can make the payments asap for the bike and pls if you don't have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up , after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the bike up after i have made the payment.

Regards.

Bath.

From: ross_247@hotmail.com
To: bathclark@live.com
Subject: RE: Enquiry from BikePoint Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:40:53 +1100

yeah still avaliable I tried calling you but couldnt get through.

Let me know if you want to come and have a look.

Thanks
Ross

> From: bathclark@live.com
> To: Ross_247@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:25:29 +1100
> Subject: Enquiry from BikePoint Australia
>
>
>
> The following Used Bike Lead was generated by BikePoint Australia
>
> Date: 27-Dec-2009 21:25:29
>
> Make: YAMAHA
> Model: FZ-1N
> Year: 2007
> Colour: Black
> Price: 11000.00
>
> PROSPECT DETAILS
> Name: Bath
>
> Postcode: 7484
>
> Mobile Phone: 0419827614
> Email: bathclark@live.com
>
> TRADE-IN DETAILS:
>
>
>
> Comments:
> Hello,do you still have this bike for sale??

[Ross_247]

I should also mention, this is about the 4th one of these i have recieved... if I replied properly he will then turn around and ask me to make payment of $750 for freight etc.. etc.. fuk waiste of time fukaz

[Jup]

OK, bloke, I truly sympathise with your situation, but it's "waste of time" and "belt around my waist".

You'd be amazed the effect a properly constructed sentence can have!

[Ross_247]

Thanks Bloke for the spelling lesson

[damo1]

Seriously not that fussed about my spelling but thanks anyway;)

Maybe it's time to have a wall of shame:D

If you get fucked around by a memeber you could put their name up and the problem and let them resond and leave it at that.

At least it would make the fuckers think twice before fucking another member around,especially knowing it may effect them in the future.

[Jup]

Wall of shame = good idea!

[robmac]

quote:


Grammar helps too!!!
[}:)]:D[}:)]:D[}:)]
Sorry dudes... couldn't resist!!!


LOL Touché :D

[bladehunter]

Twas a scam dude.....been doing the rounds on eBay...might have got a mention on here a whiles ago

[rock hard]

Hey Damo1, its just frustrating to get rooted around,im in the trade and its no different. people want some thing we order it up then it sits there you ring they say thanks be there soon, never turn up you ring again you get message bank and it turn to shit from there..my boss has paid for the parts and its money sitting on the shelf (a computor for a ducati is $2000).fuck..so now we ask for a deposit on expensive parts...then you get attitude "i havent got any money on me il pay whn i pick it up"...round we go again seriously damo its just dealing with people they mean well but have empty pockets unfortunatly..i dont know what the answer is but if people want your bits dont be afraid to ask for a deposit..if they are serious it shouldnt be a problem..if it is ,sorry cant help ya mate...see ya

When I was at a big automotive and motorcycle parts importer, all special orders had to be paid for up front. No exceptions.

Yeah, it's tough but better than being stuck with highly specialised and unique equipment.

[oldskool]

Grammar helps too!!!

Sorry dudes... couldn't resist!!!


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1262167289.gif

Motorcyclists not English majors.!!!

[sharky]

What's me Grandma got to do with this ?

[JackTar]

quote:Originally posted by damo1


Maybe it's time to have a wall of shame:D



I agree let's put it in the members only section.

[Tony Nitrous]

quote:Originally posted by oldskool

Grammar helps too!!!



quote:Originally posted by sharky

What's me Grandma got to do with this ?


I fink shee 'elp's wiv der spelink

[sharky]

Cheers Tony, always a pleasure ;)
Just had an ebay fukwit...My ad's always state 'Postage quoted is NSW,QLD and Vic only. All Other states ask for quote'
Bloke from Tas whinging about it costing double the 'quoted to nsw etc' price....but did he email first and ask...noooo
So I have sent him to the Auspost site so he can see for himself. :(

[ralph]

Gramma is 88 years old and still goin strong, Fuckin blind as a bat tho.......punk2ation is also good!@#$%^&*_?><:"|

[fimpBIKES]

quote:Originally posted by Tony Nitrous


Not on this forum, but I sold a bike to a "Mate" to get him back on the road
at what it cost me (without my time and labour fixing it up)
only for him to sell it on straight away at 100% profit.


good to see that wasnt here
cos thats not how mates behave

[Tony Nitrous]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES


quote:Originally posted by Tony Nitrous


Not on this forum, but I sold a bike to a "Mate" to get him back on the road
at what it cost me (without my time and labour fixing it up)
only for him to sell it on straight away at 100% profit.

good to see that wasnt here
cos thats not how mates behave


Very nice old 400/4 Honda, great little bike, local lad i'd known for a while and went to Pub/Bulldog Bash etc with. Even helped him get the parts to finish it.
C#NT!!! I made it public knowledge.
Sometimes its good to find out who your real mates are.
Live and learn.

[HOS]

Theres only one way to sell parts and stuff:

It aint sold till you`ve got the cash in your hand !
Simple policy. ;)

Egay is shite, full of wasters :(

[Weaselman]

I can feel the love oooozing

[BANDITROD]

i agree with jacktar on this

[Weaselman]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

i agree with jacktar on this
[:0]

[BANDITROD]

i know ...i know ....but he has a point

[Weaselman]

Yeah i'll give him that...

[El_Hefty]

well conversely to this i got in the mail a couple of weeks ago a clutch cover, slave and braided line for my gixxer... fuck knows who from as i dont remember paying for it, my guess it was Jacktar

but seriously anyone want to own up and did i pay? there was no 'from' name on the parcel

[Jup]

quote:Originally posted by little_large

well conversely to this i got in the mail a couple of weeks ago a clutch cover, slave and braided line for my gixxer... fuck knows who from as i dont remember paying for it, my guess it was Jacktar

but seriously anyone want to own up and did i pay? there was no 'from' name on the parcel


Santa Claus is real dude!

[JackTar]

Maybe you were all fucked up on the smack you crazy kids are all doin and you don't remember paying for it.

[sharky]

Could it be this one by chance ?
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1262305193.jpg

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17910

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Theres only one way to sell parts and stuff:

It aint sold till you`ve got the cash in your hand !
Simple policy. ;)

Egay is shite, full of wasters :(


Yeah i usually do it the same way.

And for the record i'm talking about time wasters on [u]This site</u> not ebay.

So that's why i've tried doing the right thing for them cause their members here.
I think some have got a little confused

[Jup]

quote:Originally posted by damo1
So that's why i've tried doing the right thing for them cause their members here.
I think some have got a little confused


Just to clarify: Are they paid members or just forum users?

Any idiot can sign up and chat for a bit, and that might earn them some cred, but if people are paying a subscription and then stuffing you about then that's a different situation entirely.

That's why I agree also: Let's have a wall of shame in the paid members section. Membership has its benefits [8D]

[El_Hefty]

haha fuck so it wasnt even for me.... well large can come take it off my bike..... thanks sharky

[Shadowzone]

quote:Originally posted by Weaselman


quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

i agree with jacktar on this
[:0]



I don't agree with Jacktar, I blame him for this problem...

[grindella]

Posted - 29 Dec 2009 : 22:35:33
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quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by damo1


Maybe it's time to have a wall of shame


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I agree let's put it in the members only section.


Start a new open forum, "wankers and time wasters"

[JackTar]

Why don't you want it in the paid members section grindella?

[robmac]

Yeah, put it in the members section..

[suxukifreak]

One forum i go on has a trader rating like e-*ay.

Works well and you have some idea who you are dealing with.

[rock hard]

wise words des

[Hillsy]

Damo - did you have a problem with your email / PM's?

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17979

[JackTar]

For the record I have sold and bought heaps of gear off members of this forum and not once had a problem.

[JackTar]

quote:Originally posted by suxukifreak

One forum i go on has a trader rating like e-*ay.

Works well and you have some idea who you are dealing with.


Once again Des I agree however it should be in the members only section then you get what you pay for and if that is nothing then that is precisely what you get.

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy

Damo - did you have a problem with your email / PM's?

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17979


No! but it's easy to say you have tried to contact someone, when your trying to cover your tracks.

No problems with email or pms ive been getting heaps from other members and theirs seem to be getting through ok must just be one members i cant get.[xx(]

[old gsxrr]

quote:Originally posted by little_large

well conversely to this i got in the mail a couple of weeks ago a clutch cover, slave and braided line for my gixxer... fuck knows who from as i dont remember paying for it, my guess it was Jacktar

but seriously anyone want to own up and did i pay? there was no 'from' name on the parcel


YEAH PAID FOR, sent before payement recieved, you said you were putting money in

[old gsxrr]

when i've got something for sale and i'm listing at a loss and it's GOOD CONDITION ,and dearer than worn out, damaged /gravel rashed/parts that someone else sold last week cheaper , someone comments it's a bit dear and stops those interested , just keep your comments to yourself pricks

[grindella]

JackTar,Posted - 31 Dec 2009 : 23:22:56
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Why don't you want it in the paid members section grindella?

There is nothing to suggest that I dont want part of Members section except due to my scottish hertiage ie: short arms and deep pockets. As to now I've not given it a any thought as being needed. I guess when I build a giant killer worthy to post here, then Ill be glad to get into paid members section.

[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by damo1


quote:Originally posted by HOS

Theres only one way to sell parts and stuff:

It aint sold till you`ve got the cash in your hand !
Simple policy. ;)

Egay is shite, full of wasters :(


Yeah i usually do it the same way.

And for the record i'm talking about time wasters on [u]This site</u> not ebay.

So that's why i've tried doing the right thing for them cause their members here.
I think some have got a little confused


I empathise with ya mate, some people are full of shit.
[xx(]

[moog]

Ross 247, Mate, you need to chill out a bit,

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17771
you confused me with your bad grammar, on 21st dec IE; "post officers" work AT THE "post office"
also, you don't need to que up 3 times, surely you have some bathroom scales and a phone? it aint hard!

Mate, I sold a damaged frame to a guy on here a couple of years ago, i was gonna throw it out, but he asked for one, and he really wanted it, so even tho it wasn't worth my trouble, i sent it him, it was too heavy to post so i sweet talked the PO woman,(freight was waaay over priced) he forgot to pick it up,
so it came back, again, so i had to re-send it to him, he appologised, so it was cool.
I've had guy's give me stuff for nout cos they didn't need it...... that's what we do,
Mate, THIS AINT E-BAY, it's ASF
Its not just about the money...

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by little_large

haha fuck so it wasnt even for me.... well large can come take it off my bike..... thanks sharky


Just send me the $300 and you can keep it

[damo1]

I've had guy's give me stuff for nout cos they didn't need it...... that's what we do,
Mate, THIS AINT E-BAY, it's ASF
Its not just about the money...
[/quote]

Mate i'm exactly the same i've have guys give me stuff and i've moved stuff very quickly with no hassels at all.

But it seems i have come across a number lately that have.

As for your comment And i quote "it's not just about the money"

If your selling something and you get shafted and the "money" that you were expecting from the sale don't come through, thats getting fucked around.And unfortunatly it is about the money.

It becomes a transaction of goods you get paid they get the goods.

Yes i agree that it's about the asf community helping each other out, thats why i suggested a wall of sham so you know who not to deal with or be causious of when moving your own gear.

And at the end of the day if you are selling or buying you don't like being fucked around either way.

[moog]

Damo.
Sure, that's not nice when it happens, but my point is, I'd be the one getting the bad name from Ross 247, and he'd have been the one who'd add me to your wall, so how fair would that be ??

[Ross_247]

quote:Originally posted by moog

Damo.
Sure, that's not nice when it happens, but my point is, I'd be the one getting the bad name from Ross 247, and he'd have been the one who'd add me to your wall, so how fair would that be ??


Moog your a perfect example of people that would be on the wall. Most people here on the forum dont tolerate rudeness and being lied to, and thats exactly wot you did to me. you even "edited" your post to completly different responses, yet you claim you never changed it ? Iv sold other bits and pieces in the past to "paying members" unlike yourself on this site without a drama. I notice your not a paying member which confirms why you were being such a tight ass with the postage cost.

any way, thanks Moog for bringing me up in this topic, I wasnt going to bring it up as its a seprete matter but obviously your ignorance has the better of you.

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Ross_247


quote:Originally posted by moog

Damo.
Sure, that's not nice when it happens, but my point is, I'd be the one getting the bad name from Ross 247, and he'd have been the one who'd add me to your wall, so how fair would that be ??


Moog your a perfect example of people that would be on the wall. Most people here on the forum dont tolerate rudeness and being lied to, and thats exactly wot you did to me. you even "edited" your post to completly different responses, yet you claim you never changed it ? Iv sold other bits and pieces in the past to "paying members" unlike yourself on this site without a drama. I notice your not a paying member which confirms why you were being such a tight ass with the postage cost.

any way, thanks Moog for bringing me up in this topic, I wasnt going to bring it up as its a seprete matter but obviously your ignorance has the better of you.




So moog it seems you have some underlying problems with other members that is the exact reason for this thread in the first place.

I'm not getting involved with whats going on between you two but you what is funny about all this.

I never named any names in this thread to who was taking the piss but i got named by one of them as them trying to turn it around so as to take some pressure off them.

How did they know i was talking about them if i never named names?????
They felt guilty i reacon for fuckn me around and being full of bull shit.

[moog]

yawn yawn, sticks and stones...(exactly my point)

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by damo1


quote:Originally posted by Ross_247


quote:Originally posted by moog

Damo.
Sure, that's not nice when it happens, but my point is, I'd be the one getting the bad name from Ross 247, and he'd have been the one who'd add me to your wall, so how fair would that be ??


Moog your a perfect example of people that would be on the wall. Most people here on the forum dont tolerate rudeness and being lied to, and thats exactly wot you did to me. you even "edited" your post to completly different responses, yet you claim you never changed it ? Iv sold other bits and pieces in the past to "paying members" unlike yourself on this site without a drama. I notice your not a paying member which confirms why you were being such a tight ass with the postage cost.

any way, thanks Moog for bringing me up in this topic, I wasnt going to bring it up as its a seprete matter but obviously your ignorance has the better of you.




So moog it seems you have some underlying problems with other members that is the exact reason for this thread in the first place.

I'm not getting involved with whats going on between you two but you what is funny about all this.

I never named any names in this thread to who was taking the piss but i got named by one of them as them trying to turn it around so as to take some pressure off them.

How did they know i was talking about them if i never named names?????
They felt guilty i reacon for fuckn me around and being full of bull shit.


I stand with my suggestion for a sham wall and i don't care where it is.

The reason i no longer am a finanial member is cause i didn't see the benafit of the members only section.
But if there was to be a wall of sham in their i would become a finanial member again just for that alone to see who you could deal with and who to steer clear of.

[moog]

fair comments Damo

[Large]

http://www1.auspost.com.au/pac/

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by Large

http://www1.auspost.com.au/pac/


WTF??????????

I think i missed something[:I]

[Large]

It coulda helped Ross and moog have a happy ending

[damo1]

oh[:I]

Did you have any luck finding that list for me Rich?????

[JackTar]

Being a financial member isn't just about having access to the members section Damo it is about supporting this forum and everything that goes with it. There wouldn't be a forum for you to sell all your shit and advertise (free of cost no doubt) your business if it weren't for paying members.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by damo1

oh[:I]

Did you have any luck finding that list for me Rich?????


yep got it here.

btw- next auction tue 19th jan

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by JackTar

Being a financial member isn't just about having access to the members section Damo it is about supporting this forum and everything that goes with it. There wouldn't be a forum for you to sell all your shit and advertise (free of cost no doubt) your business if it weren't for paying members.


Fuck up jacktar i've been around this site before they asked for donations/fianial members.

The fools run i was lucky enough to get to, i reached into my pocket and gave a donation and i had been a finaial member for a while as well.

So keep your rightouse bullshit to yourself i'm not interested in your take on why i should be a finantial member, i have my reasons for no longer doing it, so fuck off.

You seem to every chance you get drop hints to other users here that their not donating members, you should know that not everybody is in a position to actually give if they cant afford it.

You may be cashed up or in a better position than others to donate,
But seriously fuck up mate and stop trying to make your self feel better for giving a little when others may not be able to do so.

And it's quite obviously displayed on every bodies Avatar if they are donating members or not, that was probably your idea to was it??

[bladehunter]

I agree with Jack on this one.......Yeah I know I'm not a donating member at the moment, I was at one stage and for reasons that I can't go into I had to cancel membership (twas external troubles). Things like this don't run for free, advertisers help but it's up to the users to help out. And when you think about it membership is equal to less than one case of beer or a couple of packs of smokes.And FFS how much do we spend building our bikes up ?

As for the wall of shame.....ok getting dicked around or someone dropping out of a deal sux but is it worth the aggro naming would cause ? I can fully understand for non payment of goods.

All in all I've found all the guys I've dealt with here jolly good blokes.

[fimpBIKES]

quote:Originally posted by moog

yawn yawn, sticks and stones...(exactly my point)


i dont know about you, but sticks and stones wont pay my bills moog


i havent had something not show up in quite some time
and normally have good success selling on here

but i dont see how a shame wall could hurt, as long as the moderators in charge are being impartial when they decide to put someone on there. perhaps even stating the reasons in point form would help keep this transparent

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES


quote:Originally posted by moog

yawn yawn, sticks and stones...(exactly my point)



but i dont see how a shame wall could hurt, as long as the moderators in charge are being impartial when they decide to put someone on there. perhaps even stating the reasons in point form would help keep this transparent


x2

[Cruisecontrol]

But there are always two sides to every story and no doubt somebody will be wrongly accused, placed on the list and be ostracised from then on.

I don't believe a list per se will work because cliques and friendships tend to see past cold hard facts.

A sub-forum perhaps in the members area that would allow people to nut out issues with other members and allow constructive feedback and/or conflict resolution.

We are not yet a big enough community where the only way to get an idea about someone is by doing a REVS-type check on another member before dealing with them. Reputation alone has more to do with my reason for dealing with someone than a possibly one-sided "list" ever will...

[JackTar]

quote:Originally posted by damo1


quote:Originally posted by JackTar

Being a financial member isn't just about having access to the members section Damo it is about supporting this forum and everything that goes with it. There wouldn't be a forum for you to sell all your shit and advertise (free of cost no doubt) your business if it weren't for paying members.


Fuck up jacktar i've been around this site before they asked for donations/fianial members.


You seem to every chance you get drop hints to other users here that their not donating members

if they cant afford it.

And it's quite obviously displayed on every bodies Avatar if they are donating members or not, that was probably your idea to was it??





Me too.

It only seemed like hints? I need to stop being subtle.

$30 surprised anyone can afford the internet if they can't come up with $30 a year.

Not my idea but I wish it was.

[davio]

and i can now remind us all why we do deals for people in here ,i put my new flatslides up for sale on the forum coupla weeks back and got two replies, i was contacted by the first and replied, but i didnt hear back for a week (i really needed this money asap)so i called oldskool to ask if it was bad form to sell to the second buyer,, we hummed and haad for a bit, and i sold to the second bloke done deal
the first one sent me an email to see when i could send the carbs and i had to apologise and say id sold em,,
no grief ,just a thanks anyway and hed keep lookin ( ta for that mate i was feelin a bit guilty)
my point is u dont have to hang onto stuff for ever ,if the the bloke is genuine he should understand or get get back to ya ,a deal is a two way street

oh and i agree with jacktar and cruise!!!!omfg im off to rehab

[suxukifreak]

This forum was fun before money got involved.

[Watto]

theres comments being made here that I agree with and some I dont and if things keep up it's all going to go to shit and other people who visit are going to see it as well whether paying members or not - this site was about a common interest not individuals

financial membership wasn't in topic at the start if I recall correctly however having said that a donation of any kind whether 2 bucks or 30 bucks is to keep this site up and running so we can share our primary passion - bikes - as the comments been made at roughly $2.50 a month is not even half a middy at the pub - a can of coke costs you roughly that these days

all in all I've had good dealings and a whole lot of laughs with most people I've become associated with thru this site and it would be a shame to see it become a shithole (no offence intended Si)

[gibbo]

tolerance

willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs which are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them


patience

the ability to wait, or to continue doing something despite difficulties, or to suffer without complaining or becoming annoyed

Two qualities that need to be practiced more often on this site.

[BANDITROD]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^fuckin spot on gibbo

[ozkat]

quote:Originally posted by suxukifreak

This forum was fun before money got involved.
This forum was fun before <s>money got involved</s> so many fuckwits joined ASF.

[BANDITROD]

fuck off ozkat the only time you get on here is when you are selling your shit and what makes you think your no fuckwit

[JackTar]

quote:Originally posted by gibbo


tolerance

willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs which are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them


patience

the ability to wait, or to continue doing something despite difficulties, or to suffer without complaining or becoming annoyed

Two qualities that need to be practiced more often on this site.


No Gibbo I refuse to accept different. Or change for that matter :D

[robmac]

quote:Originally posted by ozkat


quote:Originally posted by suxukifreak

This forum was fun before money got involved.
This forum was fun before <s>money got involved</s> so many fuckwits joined ASF.


New people means new ideas. Just because they don't fit onto your cool wall doesn't mean they are fuckwits. You must make friends real easy......;)

IMO the main issue with a long standing forum is the older members (or the one's with no lives that spend alot of time by themselves on a fucking computer) don't respond well to change and periodically crack the shits. People take a while to fit in, have enough respect and give them a chance.

Anyway,

If there is to be a section for this wall of shame it needs to be strongly moderated to ensure fairness and each individual story/situation would need to be assessed to ensure the wrong people weren't getting rodgered. Who the fuck has time to sit down and mediate?

The issue of people not contacting someone quickly enough because seller x needs the money yesterday is again imo a non event. Where there time frames agreed to initially and then they have been ignored? Yes - there is a case. No - get over it and sell to someone else. If you need the money set guidelines immediately or everything is open to interpretation which is hugely different between people.

Remember with the internet you are dealing with strangers. Having a bit of crack on line does not make you mates or the fact that they are cool enough to have/want a streetfighter make them trustworthy.

A bit of common dog fuck gentlemen please
:)

[damo1]

""""""Who the fuck has time to sit down and mediate?""""""""""

Large:D Oh fuck he aint a donating member either so he wont be able to get into the members only section to do it.[^]

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by damo1

""""""Who the fuck has time to sit down and mediate?""""""""""

Large:D Oh fuck he aint a donating member either so he wont be able to get into the members only section to do it.[^]



I can go anywhere because I have Superninjamoderator rights.

Thanks for the reminder tho Damo[:p]

[sharky]

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1262697754.jpg

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by sharky

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1262697754.jpg



That you the little short guy in the middle there sharky??

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

fuck off ozkat the only time you get on here is when you are selling your shit and what makes you think your no fuckwit


QFT

[Elapid]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

QFT


WTF?

[Hillsy]

quote:Originally posted by Elapid


quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

QFT


WTF?


LOL

[robmac]

quote:Originally posted by Elapid


quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

QFT


WTF?


Could be Quantum Field Theory

OR

Quoted For Truth

You choose :)

[JackTar]

Rather than a wall of shame wouldn't we be better off having the opposite? As in people that you have done deals with and were good to deal with.

[scotty mac]

i'm with you on that.
no need to publicly shame a fellow member.




quote:Originally posted by JackTar

Rather than a wall of shame wouldn't we be better off having the opposite? As in people that you have done deals with and were good to deal with.

[80s freak]

Top suggestion Jacktar, great idea.

[Jup]

So if we get the 'wall of praise' (for want of a better name) we get to blame JackTar for that too?

[Tony Nitrous]

Wouldn't need to be another endless thread of drivel, Mod's could delete all
the useless steam of banter, just post up a name and a few words to say what/how.
Sure its open to abuse from Mates praising Mates even if they're tosser's but on
the whole the Ebay feedback system works, even if its only good feedback.
I've bought off two stangers on here and would be happy to recommend them.

[HOS]

Personally I do`nt think the site should have anything to do with naming and shaming or any points system for good traders at all,
No way.

Because the whole site will become bogged down with people making claims and counter claims and the admin will waste shed loads of times sorting out "he said this, she said that" etc etc ad infintitum.
You could be in a potential litigation situation by posting damaging statements about someone or their company when the situation isnt fully clear or known.

People should sort their own problems out with what they sell or buy with the other person.

Their is a lot of danger in this and really seriously best to be avoided. Otherwise major agro will ensue !

My ten bobs worth ;) Listen up :)

[JackTar]

Works quite well on another bike forum I am a member of but they use a system called Karma if someone adds to the thread saying that there was a good deal made with X, X gets a karma point which goes next to his Avatar. I am not suggesting anything like that is done for this site as it is a bit of a logistical nightmare for the administrator/s and there are a lot more people on this forum than that one.

HOS if there was a system where you only spoke about deals that went well then how could this end up in litigation or he said this she said that scenarioes?

[NakedTurboBusa]

Fuck me......... sounds a bit ghey!!!!!!!!

Common sence, you tell me the name of a person who freely adimits to not having common sence!

Im sure we hear the words " fuck that cunt has no common sence" in every street in the world....

Leave the diplomatic banter to the lefty tree hugging stamp licking bra burning cunts.

now show me a new fighter!!

NTB

[BANDITROD]

i would like to see some pics of your fighter pete i hear its running again

[JackTar]

Nah I wasn't suggesting we do that here Pete, as I said it is too much trouble but a thread just where people go in and write shit like just sold Pete a massive black dildo, he paid up straight away and the whole thing went sweet and he has ordered 20 more.[:o)]

[NakedTurboBusa]

It still has a filthly little wiring gremlin!!!! And theres a few changes to tail and front end......... I just need to find ( read make) time to fabricate, and feed Ben enough beer to work his magic on a few parts I need... soonish I hope

How is the new shooter going?

cheers Pete
NTB

[JackTar]

Does Ben work better when he's pissed Pete? Must have been smashed when he did my headlight if he does.