My 'New' mufflers.....you decide...

[sharky]

Sidekick performfance (Karitsu)
1st Attempt.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256342442.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256346623.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256374101.jpg


2nd Attempt.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256353076.jpg

No weld penetration...joint between straight section and cone visible.
Demanded and got a full refund....:(

[watkins]

made in china??

[WATEVR]

WTF!!! youre kidding arent you?

[Weaselman]

karitsu made those?

Shite

[Watto]

mate I'm no fabricator but they look pretty crap IMO and I'm not saying I could do any better

[Iceman]

they look shit Russ, good thing you got your money back

[Shadowzone]

As bad as they are, they're still better than I could do.....

[grindella]

If you cant do it yourself, you get a "tradesman" to do it, I am glad you got your money back, when you pay for something you should get it. Those pipes where shit. Did you ask if the apprentice made them?

[miniman1]

Wow!!!! Thats amazingly bad. Did he make em whilst pissed/blindfolded???

You mind if I ask what he's charging for those???

[alfiestorm]

Thats not good is it. wouldnt have thought that was from the same maker going by the other stuff. What the fuck happened I wonder.

alf

[Fight_fan]

Thats pretty fuckin poor isnt it! Hopefully it was jst the apprentice...

[bluemk1]

so is that the finished product? [V]

[sharky]

quote:so is that the finished product?
Supposedly...but if I had linished the grinder marks out of the 2nd set I would have ended up with 4 seperate parts as there would be no weld left.
I'm just pissed that we got the big "I am" from him and this was the end result.

[Cruisecontrol]

What did you ask for?
Based on the pics, surely you weren't chasing a set of complete mufflers.

[sharky]

No I wasn't CC....I wanted a pair of cans (full detailed drawings were supplied) so that I could ad the supertrapp inner parts and end caps myself.
Mk I
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256414035.jpg

MkII version.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1256410607.jpg

[Lucas]

thats some impressive work there Sharky. You;ve twisted my rubber arm to go and buy some now.

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by sharky

No I wasn't CC....I wanted a pair of cans (full detailed drawings were supplied) so that I could ad the supertrapp inner parts and end caps myself.




Well, there was his first mistake.
If he makes complete mufflers he should stick to supplying simply that. I don't know a whole lot about the process but I dare say that the devil is in the details ie like everything with modified bikes small changes are made all the time during installation, shave a bit here, add a bit here, hit it with a bloody hammer there etc.
By supplying a part he has left himself very open to criticism due to not being able to fix all those little things that are done when it is being put together at the end.

Although as you say if the welds are fucked then it is, well, fucked...

[Shadowzone]

Hey Russ, If you don't want em, I'll take em off ya hands, I have an idea whereby they'll be usable and it won't matter about the problems they have...

[sharky]

They have all been returned mate.

[Tony OW31]

[/quote]

Well, there was his first mistake.
If he makes complete mufflers he should stick to supplying simply that. I don't know a whole lot about the process but I dare say that the devil is in the details ie like everything with modified bikes small changes are made all the time during installation, shave a bit here, add a bit here, hit it with a bloody hammer there etc.
By supplying a part he has left himself very open to criticism due to not being able to fix all those little things that are done when it is being put together at the end.

Although as you say if the welds are fucked then it is, well, fucked...
[/quote]

Have to disagree with you in this case. The client provided dimensioned drawings, if the product conforms to the drawings, there is no problem. In fact it is far easier to make something to drawing than to make it fit something. My workshop produces similar items to this every day (non MC related) and I would much rather have a drawing such as provided by sharky (could do with a few tolerances tho)

[Lucas]

I'm no boilermaker/metal fab guru etc but it doesn't seem to be the most complicated bit of kit. You'd assume that someone who touts himself as a master exhaust manufacturing wonderchild wouldn't have any problems knocking up a few covers. Thts the sort of quality work we were knocking up in year 9 metalwork that ended up being turned into novelty bongs as it was useless for anything else.

Shipping out that kind of end product does wonders for ones personal and business credability.

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by Lucas

I'm no boilermaker/metal fab guru etc but it doesn't seem to be the most complicated bit of kit. You'd assume that someone who touts himself as a master exhaust manufacturing wonderchild wouldn't have any problems knocking up a few covers. Thts the sort of quality work we were knocking up in year 9 metalwork that ended up being turned into novelty bongs as it was useless for anything else.

Shipping out that kind of end product does wonders for ones personal and business credability.
cmon mate novelty my arse lol

[Jup]

I've always considered your ass a novelty Rod ;)

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by Tony OW31


Have to disagree with you in this case. The client provided dimensioned drawings, if the product conforms to the drawings, there is no problem. In fact it is far easier to make something to drawing than to make it fit something. My workshop produces similar items to this every day (non MC related) and I would much rather have a drawing such as provided by sharky (could do with a few tolerances tho)


But there may have been other parameters, such as was it a quick cash job done on the cheap?

My point was that he was asked to supply an unfinished job and he did exactly that.

[Lucas]

they were novelties Rod but they did get put to use:D

[MTBEERWAH]

with the right tool you can build anything,obviously he was the wrong tool, this is my field of work, i`d feel ashamed to give that to a customer,shody workmanship, a drawing was provided, so you`d try and make it pretty dam close

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by Lucas

they were novelties Rod but they did get put to use:D
;):D[:p][^]

[sharky]

quote:But there may have been other parameters, such as was it a quick cash job done on the cheap?
My point was that he was asked to supply an unfinished job and he did exactly that.
Nothing of the sort mate.
He was told it wasn't a rush as I was having a frame built.
For the 2nd set my words were "I'd rather you take your time and get them right this time"
He was aware the final product would not be polished but any coating would show up the grinder marks, and as I said if they were linished out the ends would fall of through lack of penetration.

[Cruisecontrol]

Well he hasn't done himself any favours then because there appears to be no reason at all for the shithouse result.

Cheers for the heads up.

[gibbo]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

Well he hasn't done himself any favours then because there appears to be no reason at all for the shithouse result.

Cheers for the heads up.

Fucken hell mate, you took some convincing! One look at the pics was enough for me[V]

[ShedBoy]

It looks like a fucking hobo has had a go at it. I suggest testing the strebgth of the items up side his head. If that is what he is prepared to let show we can only imagine what he would hide if given a chance.

[latheboy]

quote:



But there may have been other parameters, such as was it a quick cash job done on the cheap?

My point was that he was asked to supply an unfinished job and he did exactly that.


There are no paramters when doing a job, a rough job is never an excuse and it is a finished job as far as the drawing states.

Id like to hear from Karitsu as to what happened.

[gibbo]

I reckon Karitsu might have choked on that trumpet he kept blowing [B)][:I]

[sharky]

quote:such as was it a quick cash job done on the cheap?

Even if he had given me $50 I still would have binned 'em.

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by gibbo


quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

Well he hasn't done himself any favours then because there appears to be no reason at all for the shithouse result.

Cheers for the heads up.

Fucken hell mate, you took some convincing! One look at the pics was enough for me[V]


The devil is in the details...
I have had things come back to bite me on the arse after someone has asked for one thing but expected something else entirely.

I insist on clarification before I start swinging. :D

[ozzy1100]

i dont like giveing shit2 people giving it a go but fuck russ did u piss in his pot of tea or some thing
they are pitty ordenry

[zx12argh]

I've seen these bits of metal in the flesh - rough job or not if I was trying to build any kind of reputation I would not have let these left my workshop. Seeing these cans has left me with zero desire to use Karitsu... which is a shame considering I had a couple ideas for him.