WinKart (Was CBR600RRR Kart )

[Large]

No one roll cages in...just got to make sure you don't roll

[Large]

Did some cutting and mocked up the major bits today. Looks like I've got to lengthen it about 450mm and shorten/raise the steering column as it's designed for the driver to lay down atm.

Also got 5.5m of 4130 tubing to fill in the gaps and add strength where needed

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1243927232.jpg


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[timbo]

This is going to good

[Large]

Did a bit more planning and I might end up offsetting the moteur to the right and put my seat over to the left a la gixxerkart and others.

Should mean the kart can be 100mm shorter and will leave heaps of room for radiators and electrical stuff

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1243955654.jpg


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[BANDITROD]

cool i want one

[Cruisecontrol]

Time and money. You seem to have too much of both.

I am jealous. [:p]

[Azrael]

Fuck man, thats got to be the ultimate midnight munchies runner, whats gonna catch you.. put a thermal cover over the motor and not even the choppers would see ya!

[El_Hefty]

go to work you lazy cunt.... nahh fuck that enjoy it while you can, looks good, now yourve cut it you would want some special welding skills to make it strong enough for me

[BANDITROD]

me too

[Bear]

You need to lose the plastic, lower the headlight and paint it matte black.

[Large]

The fabricater next door reckons I'm just making work for myself by moving everything over, so now I'm going to leave the seat and steering offset to the right and stick the motor over to the left. That way it's a lot less cutting and welding.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244026766.jpg


If I do it this way, it looks like I'll have room to line the moteur up so the sprocket sits between the two bearing supports so the axle doesn't get whiplash on the 15,000 rpm launches

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1243971887.jpg

[BANDITROD]

fuck me look at the sump on that bad boy

[Bear]

There's an idea, Large - if you got another sump pan made up that was less deep but more wide (like a race car sump) you could lower the engine in the frame and have lower C.O.G.
You could also make it bigger in volume while you're at it.

If you go that way, you'll probably have to shorten the oil pump pickup also.

[Large]

The problem with that idea is I'd prolly need a swinging pickup to chase the oil as it sloshes around so more expense.

[timbo]

What about some baffles i your big wide sump

[Stocky]

Hmmmmm 6 inch rims. They look so cool.

A drag sump and swinging pickup would make a huge difference to the C of G

[Large]

Did a lot of cutting and machining today to lengthen the chassis.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244336169.jpg


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[Large]

Found out that you don't need years of practice with a welder when you've got a few Wild Turkeys to steady the hands and make welding a Zen like process

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244302924.jpg


Then we did a lot more cutting and grinding to make up a heap of engine/seat mounts and chassis stiffeners. Going back on monday to hopefully finish off the rolling chassis

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244320477.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244374102.jpg

[wackyrider]

Looking good mate

[Jay_G]

quote:Originally posted by Large

Found out that you don't need years of practice with a welder when you've got a few Wild Turkeys to steady the hands and make welding a Zen like process


I thought that too after a few beverages my welding was fucking magic with my $100 stick welder, then i picked up a freshly welded bit of steel, mates missus gave me frozen peas to cool the burn and my missus took me home, lesson = a couple of drinks = good welding.
12 beers = good welding whilst drunk, shit welding in the morning and sore hands.

[Large]

Yeah you've got to limit yourself. I find a coupla drinks turn me into Eddie Charlton/Jack Nicklaus, but a couple too many turn me into Steady Eddie:D

[Large]

Spent all afternoon at Ben's strengthening the frame and mounting the seat and engine.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244508310.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244469597.jpg


Fucking thing looks big until I get in it

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244522299.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244475560.jpg

[Large]

Tacked on the seat and engine mounts then pulled it all apart to finish the welding

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244490992.jpg


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[Large]

Finished up an hour ago with something that looks a bit like -

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1244520321.jpg


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Just need some bearings/brakelines/fuel tank...then setup the radiator and wire it all up...

[8D]

[-Dex-]

That's so cool.

[Fish]

That's awesome to the power of sick, now finish the ZX10.

[Watto]

that looks wild good work Large :D

[BANDITROD]

awsome i cant wait to take it for a spin

[scotty]

well done look's fucking sick.
I wanna see it do a wheelie

[Bear]

Dood, teach me how to tig weld!

[BANDITROD]

its not hard bear....its very simular to welding with the oxy

[Bear]

I thought that may be the case but I'd like to know more about settings and the footpedal etc. I just need a short lesson. I'll buy one eventually.

[LKC73]

Large, that looks nuts mate! Great work on the kart! I hope we get some footage of it when its up and running!

[el sammo]

that is AWSOME!

[TurboKat]

Do a skid !

[wackyrider]

That's looking sick. I love it. looks like its gonna be some fun to ride around

[pt]

bitching. Giza go when its done?

[hotmilk]

That looks fuckin awesome!

I can see what the entertainment will be for next years AFR LOL

[yoda]

ohhh yeahh!
Looking the goods mate

[Large]

Thanks for the comments. Looks like I'll be able to charge for a go:D

Lots of fiddly shit to do now like linkages and lines so you wont see much change for a while.

[ralph]

You could charge 1 life for 1 go

[Large]

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1250434953.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1250437473.jpg

[timbo]

Mate that looks fast just sitting on the bench

[Deano]

let me no what bearings you need mate. happy to hook a nigga up

[miniman1]

Very nice work mate, Looks awesome!!!

[houdini]

that looks like underpants changing fun

[thejester650]

that looks wicked!!! wouldn't mind a ride myself!! :D

[Azrael]

Fucken cool, good work mate!

[Large]

Fuck I was a bit wasted when I posted that pic.

Anywho, I'm in the new place and the kart is on its own workbench. Did a bit of work on the exhaust, and will hopefully have all the linkages and wiring sorted tomorrow. The local brake bloke thinks I'm fucking crazy, but has offered to replace/renew everything he can to ensure my safety. Still trying to work out the radiator and fuel tank setups

BxP/Extreme Creations is only 50m away so help and advice is freely available from sausage fingers and the sniper(SFS?)[:p] although that may dry up when ever (if ever) they get started on their own project.

Now I just need to grind away a couple of speedhumps in the industrial estate and we'll have our own 1/6th scale reverse Bathurst[8D]

[EXBEN]

HaHaHaHa........ Our's is started, & with your work ethic It'll probably be running before your's too [:0][B)]

[Large]

Care to bet 10 spider rolls on that Mr Shaw Benjamin?

[EXBEN]

No, because I don't want to give you any incentive.;)

[hotmilk]

Is this thing running yet?

[pesh]

That look's like crazy fun Large , Im hangin to see both urs and Bens finished :D

I just got myself a 99 model yamaha G19 golf buggy :D:D

and have got a spare cbr 954 engine sitting in the shed ready to go.
its guna make an awesome summernats cruiser might even enter it in the burnout comp [:p]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yrzsyeVnT0&feature=related

[scotty mac]

pesh man... you are mad!!!

LEGEND!!!!

[Lucas]

Pesh, when you're in Canberra let me know. We'll have to drink lots of beer.

[pesh]

Lucas , summernats next jan think its the 1st 2nd and 3rd Il be there m8 . Beer sounds goood : D

[Large]

Got me some R1 brakes up front

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1263165806.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1263173289.jpg


I think I've finally worked out the idler setup. Clutch and shifter are ready to go. Sourcing NVG from NTB [:p]:D

[BANDITROD]

oooohhhh thats pretty trick big fella when is this thing gunna be finished

[yoda]

planning stoppies then large?

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by yoda

planning stoppies then large?


Just fucking hopingt I can stop the fucker:D

[timbo]

That seems like a lot of brake for a small wheel mate. i understand your desire to stop but i think you need to be careful not to lock a wheel every time you want to slow down.Top work btw this thing is going to be some serous fun

[Large]

It's a small wheel that happens to be 11cm wide...and there's 2 of them.

I reckon the contact patches will be as good, if not better than an R1 front tyre[8D][:p]

[gsxrdan1]

Hope you dont mind large, but heres a pic of me 100cc yam 2 stroke shifter kart - made all the bits myself etc, but my workshop is a lot 'grassier' than yours (aka the back lawn), and my hammer dont make such fancy lookin pipes!!
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1264415025.jpg

oh yeah, and it needed another few hundred cc's!!

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by gsxrdan1

Hope you dont mind large, but heres a pic of me 100cc yam 2 stroke shifter kart - made all the bits myself etc, but my workshop is a lot 'grassier' than yours (aka the back lawn), and my hammer dont make such fancy lookin pipes!!
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1264415025.jpg

oh yeah, and it needed another few hundred cc's!!


I musta missed that post Dan. Looks the goods, a bit like the 140 Thumpstar kart that lives around the back

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1278876933.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1278918350.jpg

[Large]

Had a working bee with the local lads and got mine running today. Went for a drive - for about 50 metres - it's tooo low and flexi so is bottoming out badly. Will need to be raised or stiffened ...or both[:p]

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1278872254.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1278857321.jpg



(Video proof is being uploaded to youtube now)

[RevHead]

hey bloke i,ll dig up some piccis of my old super cart it had a suzuki gt550 triple 2 smoker in her the motor sat to my left side,fuck it was scary ,when it hit ban

[Large]

It runs-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCsbNki6pI


And it touches down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhb0p8wMT1E

[Large]

"How do we jack it up?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h920WBuxfAc

[El_Hefty]

fuck yeah... almost



p.p.s even your mother approves

[Redmohawk]

Can you run bigger tyres ? I don't know much about road kart's but I know the off road treaded tyre's come in different widths and diam but its only and inch or so, the rears are bigger than the fronts can you mount rears on the front ? I'm betting the front rims have the bearings mounted in them? Or could you fit rear rims to the front might give you a little more hight? just stabbs in the dark.

[latheboy]

Put it in the press and give it a little push.

Can the chassis be lifted at all, you might have to cut and shut all the mounts for this tho.

I think you'll have to strip it down and add more material to the chassis Mr. Large.

[RevHead]

move the rear axle mounts to under the rear of the chassis thatl give you a few inches

[Redmohawk]

theres a bloke running a roll cage of sorts on his down here would prob stiffen up the package for you with little weight gain , his looks quite good, sort of like a perimeter frame .

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by revheadpete

hey bloke i,ll dig up some piccis of my old super cart it had a suzuki gt550 triple 2 smoker in her the motor sat to my left side,fuck it was scary ,when it hit ban


Yes please Pete I'd like to see that.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by latheboy

Put it in the press and give it a little push.

Can the chassis be lifted at all, you might have to cut and shut all the mounts for this tho.

I think you'll have to strip it down and add more material to the chassis Mr. Large.



The plan is to bolt it to the work bench with a 10mm spacer under the lowest bit, so it has a very slight upwards arch, then weld on stiffening.

I was thinking maybe 5mmx30mm strip/bar welded straight to the top of the chassis tubes to make an upside down "T" beam...but certain locals reckon that wouldn't work.

Next choice would be to add another frame rail that runs from beside the seat to where the stub axles mount, about 100mm above the originals and a couple of uprights. I think this might get rid of all the flex though and cause cracking.

[Redmohawk]

I'd bet with the amount of power your stuffing into it with the frame your using cracking is prob inevatable especially witht he load your putting on it mate lol I'd be going with tube frame idea and stiffening it considerably , if you want a trick to finding cracks before they become a problem (like snap and kill you lol) Seal the main parts of the frame where cracks may be an issue and pump it full of nitrogen with some test die in there pop a small dial gauge on the frame if the pressure drops fast you know you have a crack and the die will show you where. Just pump it up once and a while before you cut sick to look for major leaks.

[Large]

Managed to get BxP to drop the important defence shit and bend a couple of tubes, then made some uprights to match and got it all welded together. Stood/bounced of the frame rails and it's a heap stiffer but still has a bit of flex to help the steering. Test drives and vids to come [8D]

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1279278743.jpg


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[BANDITROD]

thats fucking awesome big fella

[latheboy]

Thats good Mr. Large

[el sammo]

AWSOME!

[fimpBIKES]

thats more like it, she'll be awesome now!

[wackyrider]

Come on Large, where are the vids

[alien-nation]

LUV YOUR KART MATE WAY TO GO FOR OTHER BICICLIST'S ON HERE !

[pt]

shoulda just lost some weight...

[Redmohawk]

Top shit mate looks very sexy .

[Fight_fan]

quote:Originally posted by pt

shoulda just lost some weight...


[:0] SNAP!

[Deano]

well done mate.

[Large]

Ok it's running and goes great...cept it caught fire while doing flick turns (not a good idea to have an unbaffled fuel breather right above the exhaust.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1279376647.jpg



No permanent damage-vids loading now

[timbo]

oops

[Large]

The video doesn't do justice to the volume of the exhaust noise. It is ear splittingly loud. [8D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsa7FpllDc

[NakedTurboBusa]

Ive seen it, Ive heard it, out those headers it is fucking ear spilting.... Ive heard all manor of loud shit and it is up there....

after seeing the great FIRE unfold I will now know Richard as 'LARGE NIKKI'

[yoda]

good work big fella..
when is it getting on a track?

[BANDITROD]

thats awesome large

[oldskool]

Very cool mate.

[Redmohawk]

Hey large just an off the wall question , what do you think the total weight of the cart is now? 150 kg? Thinking about power to weight comparison bike to Kart and grip of different contact patch etc .

[pt]

I will graciously donate my time for top speed runs and circle work world records. It's OK i have my own earplugs.

Looks sweet

[Redmohawk]

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1279601457.jpg


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1279542618.jpg


35cc 2 stroke 2 elcheepo fridge trollys and a few bits n bobs lol

[EXBEN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS7u4YHbwU4&feature=channel

Seems you missed one Large..

[Gitzy]

That is so awesome, nice work Large..