Low Tech......... High Tech............

[Tony Nitrous]

Dispite owning 4 liquid cooled vehicles with fuel injection,
I have never been a huge fan of the latest high tech stuff.

I always liked the big Aircooled Bikes, with a pair of coils and 4 big carbs,
or Aircooled 2-stoke twin's or big 4-stroke singles.
My "era" ended with the Katana but the oilcooled GSXR/Bandit was border-line.

I think "Luddite" is the word your looking for...;)

The technology on modern vehicles IS understandable, but sometime just seems
to be over complicated for the sake of it.

.... but sometimes it works in my favour........

Hayabusa spin's over but wont fire. Dash show's "F1"

Go in house. Search on Google.

Back to bike. Find dealer plug under the seat and "short" across it with
a 3" piece of wire from the bin. Dash now show's "C41"

Go in house. Search on Google.
c00 none
c12 crankshaft positions sensor, pickup coil signal, signal generator
c13 intake air pressure sensor #2, for front cylinder
c14 throttle position sensor
c15 engine coolant temp sensor
c17 intake air pressure sensor #1 for rear cylinder
c21 intake air temp sensor
c23 tip over sensor
c24 ignition signal, coil #1 for rear cylinder
c25 ignition signal, coil #2 for front cylinder
c28 secondary throttle valve actuator
c29 secondary throttle valve position sensor
c31 gear position signal switch
c32 injector signal #1 for rear cylinder
c33 injector signal #2 for front cylinder
c41 fuel pump control system, fuel pump, fuel pump relay
c42 ignition switch signal, anti theft
c44 heated oxygen sensor
c49 pair control solenoid valve

Back to bike check fuse. OK.
Pull out relay.
Relay has 2 light and 2 heavy wires...No manual..but not rocket science!
Use the bit of wire from fooling the dealer switch to "jump" the feed in the relay.

Fuel pump run's and bike now starts...:D

Phone 3 Suzuki dealers, none in stock.
Springwood Suzuki get one in overnight.

Result.[8D]

(...and I dont hate technology quite as much)

[suxukifreak]

My 17 yr old Nissan has them same sort of set up,
but it flashes in morse code on the dash what the fault is.
Come in handy a couple of times.

[Benz]

The geep turbo had the same long bip short blip fault indication of the Nissan setup, in 1984.It confirms 33 as race mode every time I start it.
At the time,every carby bike on the road was taking the piss...
"Silicone chips", was the jibe from a trumphy owner..., I was on a Geep1100A3[?] at the time.1985, or thereabouts.
So 'high tech' been around for sometime now, though the gpz version of hightech is now 'coal fired', compared to the 'bus, for example.

[Pommy Chopper]

If you can work out what sort of relay it is you won't need to use the OEM one!!
Just a relay off the shelf at a motor factors or Dick Smiths type place will do it, and about a million dollars cheaper.

Cheers'en

[sharky]

'Fuel pump' ??... Nah,Pingel fuel tap :D

[Tony Nitrous]

quote:Originally posted by sharky

'Fuel pump' ??... Nah,Pingel fuel tap :D


I remember them !
Didn't they supply fuel to something called a CAR-BER-RETTA !
How quaint, just like Grandfarther clocks and Penny Farthing bicycles,.
..........;)

[Tone]

What if ya dash doesn't work though Tony?[8]

[Tony Nitrous]

quote:Originally posted by Tone

What if ya dash doesn't work though Tony?[8]


Good point.

I would imagine you check main loom / ECU / Fuse.

I'll let you know when it happens...;)

[sharky]

quote:What if ya dash doesn't work though Tony
Or even worse, you get a flat battery......
Ok so technology has advanced...(I've traded to old carby XF for efi XH)
But I would still prefer tech I can put on the bench and fix.. Carb's go wrong...there are ways to 'bodge 'em' to get ya home...Electronics go wrong....say a relay for arguments sake Tony;), and your stuffed...
Sure the mech's among us can testify that these days you almost need to be an electrician/computer genius as well.

[BillyWhizz888]

quote:Originally posted by Tone

What if ya dash doesn't work though Tony?[8]


Then its back to the internet
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SNAP-ON-Tools-Ball-Pein-Plastic-Tip-Hammer-Set-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43996QQihZ014QQitemZ 330254140459QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Result :D