VIC. possibly all states, rear fender rule?

[skb954]

Can anyone confirm whether this would this be legal as the rear fender?
I've been told the fender must lie beyond 45 degrees of the rear axle. ie, all short/high tails are not legal..
But what about this?
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/8302739941069.JPG

[Buggzz]

skinny arse or or no nuts?

[Funkenfresh]

it'd still have to be engineered over here in wa.. as its adding another a part to the structure..
be i dont see why it shouldnt be aloud as its covering the 45 degree rule/law.. i got one made for my 954 be alloy is to soft ..
i think id be good if it were mounted of the rear caliper bolts and made outa stainless

[Funkenfresh]

quote:Originally posted by Funkenfresh

it'd still have to be engineered over here in wa.. as its adding another a part to the structure..
i dont see why it shouldnt be aloud as its covering the 45 degree rule/law.. i got one made for my 954 but alloy is to soft ..
i think id be good if it were mounted of the rear caliper bolts and made outa stainless

[chopaweeza]

It's an ADR so that means it's accross the country as a Federal rather than State requirement . Things like the 300mm blinker ruling , 2 mirror ruling and many others are the same too.

[_M_]

This is what im thinking of doing as well as i want to keep my bobber tail, my question is does the numberplate have to be a certain hight? as if its just the visible from "x" metres away then we will be sweet, but what im thinking of doing is extending the rear fender to 45 degrees and sitting the #plate with led bolts on that.

[chopaweeza]

And the bike in that photo , the mud guard is not even vaguely legal under Australian Design Rules as it does not cover 45 degrees from the line of the axle in either direction.

[oldskool]

Im a RWC officer as part of my job the rule is 45 from the rear axle so the photo is correct , Bmw did the same thing to pass ADR also the Benelli TNT was ment to have it also but was given to dealers to put on at predelivery and I know I never even bothered to put them on and have had no comebacks ,in the legislature there is no mention of the full 45 degrees?

[skb954]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

2 questions oldskool,

1. So your saying this sort of thing might be legal?
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/27825014426724.JPG

and 2. Can i contact you about getting a RWC later this year?

[DaveK5]

In clarification see this, you can read through all the ADR's but in simple terms this checklist covers it.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP10C_LO7_ICV_Motorcycle_Checklist_27Jan2006.pdf

skb954...No thats not legal,unless the bikes bodywork covers the front half of the rear wheel..but it is legal to cut down the front mudguard for whats it's worth.

My bike is not legal but it's safe and we don't have to get an MOT every year so blow it.

[MR.SHOTGUN]

mr choppa wezzer whats the 300mm blinker rule

[oldskool]

Shotgun; 30cm from center to center, Skb; you need a red reflector and a hugger to cover the front half of the wheel (right on Dave) then your all good and I hope that stop tail is as clear as a bell at 100 mtrs.

[Iceman]

looks like I'm fucked then. I just put an intergrated rear light assembly on the GS.

[DaveK5]

quote:looks like I'm fucked then. I just put an intergrated rear light assembly on the GS.

Maybe not Iceman...see A.6.3__ of the checklist

front indicators at least 240mm
rear indicators at least 180mm..I believe this rule was changed a while ago...it used to be 300mm.
But the 300mm mounting rule still applies for the distance from the rearmost point.

[skb954]

quote:Originally posted by oldskool

Shotgun; 30cm from center to center, Skb; you need a red reflector and a hugger to cover the front half of the wheel (right on Dave) then your all good and I hope that stop tail is as clear as a bell at 100 mtrs.

Thanks for all the info. I've already got a hugger, so i might look at building a small rear guard then.
I think ill just bolt all the original tail stuff back on for the RW, it doesn't take long to swap subframes.

[Tony Nitrous]

Whar rear guard ?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/STREETFIGHTER-GSXR-1100_W0QQitemZ190234194888QQihZ009QQcategoryZ10268 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/746/gixreardv7.jpg

[oldskool]

300mm from center to center still the law in Vic as I have seen no amendments from Vic roads.
But heres a funny one your front indicators can be white light they dont have to be amber.

[chopaweeza]

And they can be LED's now just so long as they are E Stamped and 300mm apart . Thank Suzuki for that. They had a road/trail 400 come out a few years ago with LED blinkers & tail and it passed ADR's in that form so it's legal .

[DaveK5]

The document I posted is the latest "National" code of practice...for "New" registrations.

It's interesting that for lighting requirements the vic roads web site refers to ADR53 that was superseded by ADR19 and 67.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/ADR_Applicability_Summary-L-Group.pdf

So if they stick ya for the 300mm rule tell to get with the program their info is out of date by more than a few years ;).

[oldskool]

Well fuck me, Thanks Dave I would have thought that Vic roads would in form us roadworthy inspectors but I guess not thanks again mate Iv got lots of reading to do.:(

[zx12argh]

Last I heard about the 300mm rule was that the cop bikes violated it so they changed it to 220... I could be wrong.

[corz]

Hey all,

I have been getting drilled for a RWC on an SV650 which has an aftermarket undertail with the built in indicators.

Thanks for the link DaveK5, it is not simple to dig out the regulations. From what I can see in ADR19 Paragraph 6.3.3.1 it says:

"For rear indicators, the clearance between the inner edges of the two
illuminating surfaces shall be at least 180 mm on the condition that the
prescriptions of paragraph 2.11. are applied even when the registration plate
is mounted;"

paragraph 2.11 is just BS about the visibility angles. This was updated in May 2007, so perhaps that is why all the RWC guys still say it is 300mm?

I have a high mount exhaust which clamps directly to the rear peg attachment, I still might be in trouble with the 45 degree visibility thing.

Corz

[BANDITROD]

Umm you might wanna go and intro yourself mate or the locals with have a field day with ya .....

[Iceman]

Holly thread revival Batman!

[corz]

Will do :)