Crazy Jap-Style fighter, advise sort

[fimpBIKES]

Good Afternoon Folks,



I got an interesting email from one of my best buddys who is currently living in Jap-land.

He is over there for 18months or so I think, then once he comes back later this year it seems that he wants to get his bike license….

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Howdy, got a Q for you about motorbike modding.
What sort of rules are there! I want to build something like this TW200, will there be issues with it under oz laws (i'd say yes!). Would it be possible to do if it was done to an old bike, say a 1980 model? Do the noise laws change for older bikes liek they do with older cars (underslung supertrapp can't be quiet!). And so on. What you reckon bike modder man!
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/29322288892643.jpg


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/8419815196043.jpg

Oh and a stock one
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~chuoh-auto/1-0430tw200-blu.JPG

It seems the TW200 design is fairly old but also pretty rare in oz. I've seen some for sale but they are all nearly new ones. New it's only $5k oz about. I was thinking of using something pretty old and cheap and adapting on the rear swingarm and super fat rear wheel (or just making a new swingarm for the rear and using the fat wheel with that). It has to have the fat rear wheel!
I'm thinking something like a 1980 XT250 would be a good basis and also cheap as buggery to actually buy.
http://usouko.urethane-ya.com/space/XT250kaito.JPG

http://www.bikez.com/pictures/yamaha/1981/17614_0_1_2_xt%20250_Image%20credits%20-%20Erik.jpg

Jarich____________________________________________ __________________



He knows plenty about modifying cars (he’s a dorifto-master and has done a few engine swaps and plenty of suspension work in his day) and he is pretty clued in on engineers certificates etc. So I wouldn’t put anything past him, ability-wise.



He’s one of those annoying types who gets things done on-time and for nearly fuck all money, so im pretty sure he could pump out this style of bike (with my help naturally, cos I love a good project bike :D)


The bike question is what we should be looking for as far as a donor bike goes, oh and it would have to be learner legal and two-stroke. In NSW it means that it would need to be one of the following



Eligible Motorcycles in the category 261 - 660ml
AJS MODEL 18
MODEL 30
APRILA MOTO 6.5
PEGASO 650
PEGASO 650 I.E.
RXV 450
RXV 550
SXV 450
SXV 550
ARIEL HUNTMASTER
RED HUNTER 350
RED HUNTER 500
BENELLI Velvet 400
BLTACO SHERPA
BMW F650
F650CS
F650GD
F650GS
F650ST
R50
R60
R60/5
R60/6
R65
R69
BSA B33
B50SS GOLDSTAR
EMPIRESTAR
GOLD STAR
GOLDEN FLASH
LIGHTNING
SPITFIRE MKIII
THUNDERBOLT
CAGIVA 410TE
610TE
610TE-E
CANYON 500
CANYON 600
RIVER 600
W16 600
COSSACK 650
DNEPER K650
DOUG 350
DUCATI 400 SS JUNIOR
DM450
DM500
M620ie (24kw LITE)
SL 500 PANTAH
SL 600 PANTAH
ENFIELD BULLET DELUXE
BULLET ELECTRA
BULLET 65
BULLET CLASSIC
TAURUS
GASGAS EC300
EC400
FSE450
FSE500
FSE400
Pamera450
SM400
SUPERMOTARD
HARLEY SS350
HONDA 600V TRANSALP
BROS
CB350
CB350F
CB400
CB400F
CB400N
CB400T
CB500
CB650
CRF450
CX500
NT650v DEAUVILLE
NX650
FT500
REVERE
RVF400
SHADOW
SILVERWING
SL350
VF400F
VT500
VT600C
XBR500
XL350
XL500
XL600
XL650 vTRANSALP
XR350
XR350R
XR400M
XR400R
XR500
XR600
XR600R
XR650L
HUSABERG FE(ENDURO)4E8
FE(ENDURO)5E8
FE(ENDURO)7E8
FE400
FE450
FE501
FE550
FE600
FE650
FS450
FS650
HUSQVANA 350TE
400TE
410TE
430WR
510TE
610TE
610TE-E
SM450R
SM510R
HYOSUNG COMET GT650L
GV650L
GT650SL
GT650RL
INDIAN 741 STOUT
IZH Jupiter 350
JAWA 350
KAWASAKI EN450
ER500A
ER500C
EX400
EX500A
KL600
KL650A
KL650B
KL650C
KL650E
KLE500A
KLR 650
KLX300B
KLX400B
KLX450A
KLX650B
KLX650C
KZ400
KZ440
KZ500
KZ550
LTD440
Z600A
Z650B
ZR550B
Z500
KTM 625 SMC
660 SMC
EXC450
EXC SERIES 300
EXC SERIES 360
EXC SERIES 380
EXC SERIES 400
EXC SERIES 510
EXC SERIES 525
GS SERIES 300
GS SERIES 400
GS SERIES 450
GS SERIES 500
GS SERIES 550
GS SERIES 600
LC4 SERIES 300
LC4 SERIES 400
LC4 SERIES 500
LC4 SERIES 540
LC4 SERIES 550
LC4 SERIES 600
LC4 SERIES 625
LC4 SERIES 650
LAVERDA 500
MAICO 500
MATCHLESS 600
650
G80 MAJOR
MONTESSA COTA
MORINI 350 SPORT
500 STRADA
500W
MOTO GUZZI V35
V50
V65
MUZ BAGHIRA 660
SCORPION REPLICA
SKORPION SPORT
SKORPION TOUR
MVAUGUSTA 350
MZ ETZ250
NORTON 50
DOMINATOR
ES2
MODEL 88
PANTHER 600
650
PEUGEOT Geopolis 400cc **
Satelis 500cc **
PIAGGIO X9 500
RICKMAN 650
ROYAL ENFIELD 650
Bullet 500
Lightning 500
Bullet 350
Diesel 324
RUDGEWHITHWORTH 650
Ulster
SUZUKI AN400
AN650
DR350
DR350S
DR500
DR600R
DR650R
DR650RE
DR650RL
DR650RSL
DR650SE
DR-Z400E
GR650
GS450E
GS450S
GS450SX
GS500
GS500E
GS500K
GS550
GSX400E
GSX400F
LS650
RE5
XF650
TM 300 ENDURO
TM300
TM400
TRIUMPH BONNEVILLE 650
SPEEDTWIN
T100 TIGER
T100R DAYTONA 500
THUNDERBIRD 650
TROPHY 500
TROPHY 650
TRW25
URAL 650
VELOCETTE MAC 350
MSS 500
VENOM
VOR 400 ENDURO
450 ENDURO
500 ENDURO
530 ENDURO
YAMAHA RD400
RT350
SR500
SRX600
SZR660
TT350
TT600
TT600E
TT600R
TX650
WR400F
WR426F
WR450
XJ550
XJ650
XJR400
XP500
XS400
XS650
XT225
XT350
XT500
XT550
XT600
XT660R
XT660X
XTZ660
XV535
XVS650
XVS650A
XZ550
YP 400

Preferrably already with a mono-shock rear suspension, then we wouldn’t have to get things engineered ;)
I was thinking DRZ-400 perhaps, but they are still about 4 grand used so….




Any suggest a good donor? Say for under 2 grand??



The next step would be wheels etc
Anyone think of something chunky enough to steel the wheels off of for this kind of thing?? They remind me of quad wheels! (which opens up the possibility of single-siders…)

Would probably look at doing up the swingarm as a custom job, using something like a zx6r rear shock or similar (I just know that these are normally a cheap sort of an upgrade people do on their SV650’s so that would just be an example)




Anyways, anyone got suggestions?

[BANDITROD]

that looks like fun

[Lucas]

What about an old SL or a Stockman? I'm sure you'd find one pretty cheap.

[fimpBIKES]

honda SL's seem to be about the same price and as rare as the TW200 on bikepoint

but then again there dont seem to be many old bikes on bikepoint

ooooh, there is a TW200 in the tradingpost for a grand
looks like you can find older ones :D
http://www.autotrader.com.au/Automotive/Motorbikes/Trail-Off-road-Bikes/AdNumber=WB2793306102?BackToResult=true
(pretty blue bits WTF??)

[Lucas]

From what I've gathered bikepoint is just dealers showing their shiny, expensive toys.

Tradingpost and All classifieds(southern NSW) I reckon will be your best bet.

[fimpBIKES]

thanks lucas, some good buys on there (like the crashed cbr250rr for $750 :D)


this would definitely do the job
http://www.allclassifieds.com.au/ac/ac0036?bcid=121940762


have directed him here, so he can see what we are getting up to [:X]

[Lucas]

The price is right too

[Weaselman]

deus ex mechina build those things exactly like in the pic
fuckin rip off though

[Lucas]

If you pick up something in Canberra and need somewhere to keep it for a few days while you sorting out transport etc let me know.

[fimpBIKES]

this is phat!!!!

http://www.deus.com.au/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=207

[Weaselman]

im just not a fan of deus.

they are the anti christ in the circles i travel in

[fimpBIKES]

oh yeah, its not like i'd just let him buy a Dues or anything (and your right, they are scooters for yuppies in denial)


but if i rocked up on a custom TW200 you'd still nod yeah?

Seemed like nice enough guys when I dropped in while I was over for AFR. Some of thier show bikes are pretty snazzy and you can buy a lot of thier gear straight off the shelf.

[Fight_fan]

quote:Originally posted by Weaselman

deus ex mechina build those things exactly like in the pic
fuckin rip off though


Thats exactly my thoughts on the deus boys! I like their style but they r diluting the cafe racer market & yeh they r a fuckin rip off! Around $15000 for n SR400![xx(][}:)]

[Weaselman]

When not building streetfighters I rock the classic chop circles as Choppaweeza can attest. If you rocked up to those guys on a deus thinking your all that youd get a kicking.

Im all for modifyed bikes but if you rock like you built it yourself then you deserve a beating. Hence we dont like Deus as its making the scene the habitat for people with more wallet then skill.

Ive been in there too and am actually mates with one of the dealers but he knows id never buy from them as i build my own stuff.
And im not paying 2g's for a nose fairing

[fimpBIKES]

i see what you mean

so what do you think of these blokes buying the ready-made customs?
like the AWESOME one next to our tent at the GoldCoast BikeShow last year that sold for $50k (and it drained its battery overnight, top quality that is....)



anyways, this'll be a fairly stock TW if we can find one for the right price
just an extended swinger, cutdown plasics and a minimal zorst ;)

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by Weaselman


Im all for modifyed bikes but if you rock like you built it yourself then you deserve a beating. Hence we dont like Deus as its making the scene the habitat for people with more wallet then skill.



QFT

[Weaselman]

sorry
ive met people with deus bikes that were acting like they built them by themselves

and i was drunk
still am

[Cruisecontrol]

Quoted For Truth.

I'm on your side, buddy. :D

[Weaselman]

Yaaay! supporters!

[Bear]

I agree with you, Weasel. They're money makers, not scene setters.
I spose they must know the market though, because they sell them. [B)]

[Weaselman]

yeah but to wankers.

and when you pull up to them on your fighter (Specially yours) they know you built it and they are wankers.

[Seifer]

I'm a cafe fan, and to be honest I love some of their bikes. But they are overpriced and for that reason, anyone who rides them has that wank factor. What is even funnier is they leave the japanese price tags on some of their clothing/accessories so you can literally work out the ridiculous mark up they have on these items. Having said that, who wouldnt if you were in their position. They know what a wank product it is, but then they remember their bank balance and all is ok again.

[Weaselman]

and their massive lack of creativity or skill in mechanics when they pay the money