Project X CANCELLED !! [Archive] - Aussie Streetfighters

sharky

08-04-2008, 06:23 PM

Nothing too exciting yet...but off to a good start.
R1 s/arm fitted with clearance for a couple of spacers to align the chain.
Next step is to get the brace welded back on the arm.
And I won a cheap front wheel of evilbay. Just need the forks now.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/25689652579110.jpg

The whole rear subframe is going in the bin...weighs a ton...or is that tonne..bloody metric system.<s></s>

sharky

09-04-2008, 05:44 PM

This is a rough idea....satin black and gold...stealth fighter

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/46584458577251.jpg

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/46584458565125.jpg

BANDITROD

09-04-2008, 05:59 PM

looking good russ keep us posted mate

Weaselman

09-04-2008, 06:16 PM

professional use of house bricks there

zx12argh

09-04-2008, 06:49 PM

That tail piece is looks tuff in the flesh - go german style and get a steel seat buddy

Large

09-04-2008, 07:17 PM

quote:Originally posted by zx12argh

That tail piece is looks tuff in the flesh - go german style and get a steel seat buddy

Don't be a follower.

Start your own trend and get a nice ceramic or concrete tile or piece of polished marble fitted up for your arse.:D

While you're at it better get a gallon of Anusol

Weaselman

09-04-2008, 07:25 PM

LOL

sharky

09-04-2008, 07:39 PM

Well I am a chippie....maybe a nice wooden seat...I think Jockney may have one... [:0]

Hillsy

09-04-2008, 07:58 PM

quote:Originally posted by sharky

Well I am a chippie....maybe a nice wooden seat...I think Jockney may have one... [:0]

I think anything with KTM written on it might qualify....

Jockney Rebel

12-04-2008, 11:03 AM

oi Rusty...seriuosly tho gotta get one of them ...lol
looks good mate ..see ya next year for a burn up ..im bringing some happy gas this time

sharky

15-04-2008, 02:36 PM

Slowly but surely getting the shock mount sorted...having just one good hand makes it sooo easy.:(
Managed to cut down, grind and drill out a sleeve for the lower shock mount...only burnt my fingers once.[:0]
I'm actually beginning to like the look of the whole 'Lateral frame concept'...the big rail going up front of headstock.Might not chop it off after all
Hopfully winning some R1 forks soon in the usofa.
Might see if an R1 tank will fit.[}:)]
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/48386315761080.jpg

And just to make things better I am now making a profit on the rolling chassis I bought..:D

sharky

17-04-2008, 05:28 PM

Been checking a few measurements..Rake is the same as stock R1. Forks have been dropped through the yokes to the same length as r1 forks.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/90177473748966.jpg

And with the help of paintshop I worked out exactly the same shock & linkage position. S/arm is at same angle.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/90177473730467.jpg

The wheel base is the same as the XJR, just looks longer... so it should all work ok....I hope.....

fimpBIKES

17-04-2008, 05:52 PM

i like your style sharky!

geesexar

18-04-2008, 05:39 AM

nice work sharky..does your boss know what your up to while your on workcover...lol

sharky

18-04-2008, 06:21 PM

Got the upper mount sorted today...tried to leave it stock and work around it but it wasn't gonna happen.
So one adjustable bracket thingy later..
I have cut the mount off the scrap frame and with a piece of 3mm wall box section made up a connector bracket. The idea being once its welded up properley and powder coated it should look like factory.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/3696211619404.jpg

xjrjack01

18-04-2008, 07:01 PM

It could be the angle of the photo but the wheel base looks mega long in this pic, should help keep the front wheel from pointing skyward on the drag strip hey.

quote:Originally posted by sharky

Slowly but surely getting the shock mount sorted...having just one good hand makes it sooo easy.:(
Managed to cut down, grind and drill out a sleeve for the lower shock mount...only burnt my fingers once.[:0]
I'm actually beginning to like the look of the whole 'Lateral frame concept'...the big rail going up front of headstock.Might not chop it off after all
Hopfully winning some R1 forks soon in the usofa.
Might see if an R1 tank will fit.[}:)]
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/48386315761080.jpg

And just to make things better I am now making a profit on the rolling chassis I bought..:D

sharky

18-04-2008, 07:53 PM

That was my first thought mate..thats why I measured it against the xjr...it was within a few mm.

Bear

18-04-2008, 08:46 PM

Turn it into a 2-wheeled low-rider, Sharky. :D

sharky

18-04-2008, 10:36 PM

Thats the idea mate...get my arse as low as possible....got an interesting idea forming for the back end [}:)]

sharky

19-04-2008, 04:55 PM

Bonus.:D..FJ s/arm bearing tube thingy (goes through bearings,spindle goes inside) fits the R1 arm so no machining needed...just swap 'em over.

ozzy1100

19-04-2008, 04:59 PM

way 2 go russ

19-04-2008, 06:44 PM

I got to meet project X today and i'm impressed,a genuine shed built contender for next year.thanks again 4 ya help mate.

sharky

24-04-2008, 09:55 AM

Next job on the list was checking the chain alignment. Luckily I had a brand new chain & f/sprocket in my box of R1 goodies from ebay.
And 'voila' perfect first time. No adjustment needed...how fookin lucky is that....got to love those 'lil men at Yamaha :D

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/87270484851201.jpg

So spurred on by my luck I measured the visible damper rod and after adding 10mm for luck made a strut to suit.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/87270484869988.jpg

This is going to be loooooow. I can have a seat height of about 630mm (as comparison my xjr is about 720mm)

Gix11

24-04-2008, 04:13 PM

Loving this build progress mate. Keep it coming...

EFE 1230

25-04-2008, 11:08 PM

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/21685079921263.jpg
Hey Mr Maxadon, how about something like this for the tank set up/rear subframe?

sharky

27-04-2008, 09:56 PM

[xx(] Of all the great pics you've put up.....and you suggest that one to me.....
Been working on the tank idea today.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471534517679.jpg

Covered the frame/engine with an old sheet and then used expanding foam to cover the area. Once set I got stuck in with the electric carving knife. (Tip. Dip the blades in acetone occasionally...cuts better)
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471534511829.jpg

Tomoro I will get the shape sorted and start turning it into a plug for a fibreglass mould.
The idea is that once I have the cover moulded I can then cut the foam down to form the fuel cell shape, knowing it has to fit under the cover.[^]
Oh, and I have won R1 forks & triples off evilbay :D

Large

28-04-2008, 09:44 AM

Hey Russ,

Is that the stuff that's used to block up holes in the side of houses etc to stop bugs getting in?

sharky

28-04-2008, 09:54 AM

Yes mate.

Large

28-04-2008, 10:03 AM

Does it hold its shape alright when you're cutting/sanding it?

sharky

28-04-2008, 11:03 AM

Yes mate, once its set its like that 'oasis' stuff for plants.
If you are doing a big lump do it in stages. My 'tank' was 2x 750ml cans applied 2 days apart. If you don't wait, you start cutting and find a goey uncured mess in the middle. And trust me, it sticks like shit to a blanket. Acetone removes the gooo or leave it to cure and then peel of unwanted 'splats'
Once you start a can, finish it. From experience over the years, I have found the cans seal up pretty quick.
Once it cures in the application tube, thats it.
And remember it swells to about 3-4 times the applied size.

fimpBIKES

28-04-2008, 01:57 PM

GO SHARKY GO!!!

more pics :D

sharky

28-04-2008, 02:26 PM

As you asked soo nice...
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471686086962.jpg

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471686055980.jpg

I have used the foam as a base and cut and taped flat plastic panels to get a tank idea.
As I have 2 sheets of 2mm ali plate lying around I am going to use those to make the cover. I can cut/bend/weld that easy enough at home, with the advantage of being able to powder coat it later.

sharky

28-04-2008, 08:37 PM

This is too easy...offered up the R1 footpeg hangars today...2 threaded holes in just the right spot. They're gonna be real rear set but thats how I like 'em.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471866320715.jpg

Added a couple of scoops to the tank as well. To prevent heat build up the tank cover is going to have mesh covered vents to get air flow and also supply fresh air to the carbies.
Junked the 'ram air' idea...not enough space without getting messy or losing fuel capacity.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/63471866329043.jpg

sharky

30-04-2008, 05:22 PM

Gave up with the sheet ali idea. Covered the foam with a layer of fibre glass and then filler.
Got some other bits to add to it yet (air intakes)
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/105268682640879.jpg

Got these today. They are only for mock up but for $20 delivered their better than expected. The edges have been rounded off by an over zealous piolishing monkey but other than that ok.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/105268682623677.jpg

30-04-2008, 06:02 PM

The forx...where are the new forx. Amazing wht you can do with 1 hand mate. should be finished well within 6 weeks ay?

sharky

30-04-2008, 06:39 PM

Hopefully get forked by the w/e.....probably back to work next week..:(

MONO

30-04-2008, 06:43 PM

Sharky this is fast becoming one of my most favourite threads keep up the photos i'm busting to see how it's turns out,and the missus is enjoying the cooking lessons too "nice cake"

sharky

01-05-2008, 01:26 PM

Got my new R1 forks & clamps today but they will have to wait.
Its a simple job of swapping stems but therein lies the problem.:(

"Steering Stem – Yamaha sportbikes used the same diameter steering stem for many years, from approximately 1987 thru 1995. However, starting in 1997, Yamaha inexplicably changed the diameter of their steering stems to a slightly (approx. 0.005”) larger stem diameter. I know this to be true for both YZF750 and R1’s. This means that the old stems are now a loose fit instead of a press fit into the YZF750 lower triple tree. This most direct remedy for this problem is to weld and machine and appropriate stem."

So as theres no rush I am going to look for another lower yoke/stem and get that one sorted whilst keeping a movable rolling chassis.

Iceman

01-05-2008, 01:51 PM

For a one handed chippy your pretty good at this bike build'n stuff Russ:D

sharky

05-05-2008, 04:01 AM

Cheers Icicle dude.
Decided to start again with the tank..first up cardboard mock up. Trying to get more of an angular look to it. There will be some mesh panels in the cover as well as the 2 inlet scoops on the sides. These to a, feed the airbox and b, keep cool air flowing under the civer...these old girls get a bit warm.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/67584205645724.JPG

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/67584205661198.JPG

Also going to stick with the freshened up 1200 motor to start with and use the 11 out of the xjr for the full monty. That way I'm on the road quicker and later I'll have a decent 12 motor the xjr when it gets the full make over

Large

05-05-2008, 05:22 AM

Starting to look like the F117

Iceman

05-05-2008, 05:59 AM

I wonder if it'll be undetectable by radar too.

fimpBIKES

05-05-2008, 09:57 AM

looking good, but your going to be popping your hip out when your on the brakes with the square edges on the back of the tank [:O]

definitely looking good though!!

sharky

05-05-2008, 10:22 AM

Yeah thats one bit I have to change yet...working on a better mock up at the moment.

TurboKat

05-05-2008, 10:30 AM

Looks like you might need these Russ. ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290227088742&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=019

sharky

05-05-2008, 10:40 AM

Yeah they'd be good but I need to get some money back in the bank...brakes can wait 'til later :(

zx12argh

06-05-2008, 12:33 PM

quote:Originally posted by sharky

Yeah they'd be good but I need to get some money back in the bank...brakes can wait 'til later :(

pah - who needs brakes...

Looking good Rus - sorry didn't drop in durring my hols but between hangovers and getting a big dose of the flu I spent most days in bed.

When you back to work mate?

sharky

06-05-2008, 03:45 PM

Went back today mate..:( Finish 3.30, home by 3.35 :D

Lucas

06-05-2008, 03:55 PM

Have you thought about carbon in place of the glass for the tank. A little more exxy but it'dd sure as hell set it off.

After boat building (laying in cat hulls glassing is fucking horrid) I told myself I'll never play with fibreglass again but I dare say I'll be playing with it again soon.

sharky

06-05-2008, 03:58 PM

Thought about it mate....I'll be 'discussing' that with the <s>Grand Master of Carbon</s> Ozcat later on...;)

Lucas

06-05-2008, 04:13 PM

yeah, go carbon :)

sharky

12-05-2008, 01:29 AM

Gone back to what I know.....mdf tank. The shaded bits will be air intakes.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/85596615544512.JPG

I have a Gpz1100 tank instrument unit on its way that will house the shift light and later, drag-race relevant lights/switches.
I am waiting until I get that before adding a 'spine' piece on the tank.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/85596615519008.JPG

And Oz....think its gonna be a 2 piece mould :(

ozkat

12-05-2008, 01:32 AM

quote:Originally posted by sharky

And Oz....think its gonna be a 2 piece mould :(

Dont worry about it Russ after all its only money :D

sharky

12-05-2008, 01:42 AM

quote:Dont worry about it Russ after all its only money
Yeah, You don't worry.....and its my money....
But bartering is good too, starting with some ol' carby bits ;)

Bear

12-05-2008, 04:29 AM

Sharky, are you trying to be stealthy and defy radar with those angles? :D

Jockney Rebel

12-05-2008, 06:11 AM

i like the F111 look russ

sharky

14-05-2008, 08:26 PM

Nothing much..got the Gpz dash unit...
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/35057686729463.jpg

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/35057686728386.jpg

It's this bloody 'work' thing, slows progress....:(

Large

14-05-2008, 10:50 PM

How ya going to fuel proof the MDF?

sharky

15-05-2008, 05:45 AM

More to the point, how do I make this thread Fool proof ;)

Fish

15-05-2008, 08:49 AM

Not on this site sharky mate, not here. Geeze mate that's coming up nicely looking forward to seeing it on the road. Got the green light for my project now too :D[}:)]

Watto

15-05-2008, 09:28 AM

hey sharky

with your stem problem, i had a similar prob when I fitted an early gixxer stem into later model clamps - took it down to my local engineering shop and they did a process called metal spray - basically built it up to what it needed - cost me about $50

sharky

22-05-2008, 06:14 PM

Cheers Watto, I'll look into that one.
These are the filters from Huey'. Needed to use the stock air box intake rubbers to get them to fit, will get something better sorted...main thing was they fit.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/53084923644607.jpg

Decided to go with the stock subframe rails (cut/shut/welded)as they were so close to right and I am going to make my own tail unit. The weight difference was soo slight between them and a subframe from an R6 that it wasn't worth the bother to use ali.

sharky

24-05-2008, 04:25 PM

Had a good tidy up today so I thought I best get the bike off the ramp and actually sit on the thing (now the hand's better I can get it on/off the centre stand)
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/94883935845774.jpg

Its looooow mannnn....650mm seat height...lower than the wifes zzr...

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/94883935846116.JPG

Pure coincidence that I see a shark profile forming...[}:)]

Iceman

24-05-2008, 04:34 PM

look'n good Russ. I can't wait to see this thing in the flesh.

FighterBlade

24-05-2008, 05:00 PM

coming along

zx12argh

25-05-2008, 03:06 PM

fuck russ - that almost looks like a cruiser [:p] Definitely going to be something special when you are done mate.

sharky

25-05-2008, 04:01 PM

quote:that almost looks like a cruiser
Wait 'til you see the ape hangars and forward controls I'm planning [xx(]

Bear

25-05-2008, 07:16 PM

Very cool, Sharkman. :)

Learnatic

27-05-2008, 11:36 AM

Looking good mate

sharky

08-06-2008, 10:03 PM

Bad news for this project...[V]...
Been doing a lot of thinking and this w/end at the Winters has confirmed my doubts.:(
I could make the 1200 competetive but at the expense of my other love..scuba diving.[V]
To finish this project with a tuned motor,trailer etc is just going to cost waay too much.
So,very reluctantly this one is dead before it lived.
On the up side, I am going to look at mono-shocking the XJR along with the R1 front end.....plus a few ideas that are forming in me 'ed [}:)]

I see it a choice between having a good strong XJR 'fighter that I can 'play' drag racer on at shoot-outs AND going diving...:)
or....
A fairly tidy road bike and a 'long way to go' drag bike and NO diving...:(

And been looking at these pics again...like the front end conv. but need something more radical.[}:)][}:)]
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/40183565661989.jpg

Iceman

08-06-2008, 10:24 PM

That's a shame Russ, you could compromise maybe, by making it a long term build (two years or so) and still dive but not as often.

sharky

08-06-2008, 10:31 PM

It always was going to be a long termer mate....the reality is I cannot afford 2 bikes + diving equipment and costs.
If I don't have the FJ as a road legal I'll need a trailer..
I will still build a big bore motor out of the 1100 (cases need machining on both 11's and 12's for 1314cc).
I just have to be realistic...I can't have 2 expensive hobbies and a decent road bike...

Zed14

09-06-2008, 07:57 AM

get a better paying job. that thing come together way too quick so its not like you dont have spare time russ. more money=more toys.

gibbo

09-06-2008, 08:14 AM

^^^^^ Yeah, like he said, TWICE!!!!!

sharky

09-06-2008, 08:19 AM

It only came together quick 'cos I was off work on w/c.
And I ain't stickin me fingers in that machine again for nuffin :(

zx12argh

09-06-2008, 10:10 AM

Hey Rus I know what you mean - I had to do one of those brain checks this year. If thats what you gotta do man - but hey doesn't cost much to stick the frame on the wall and if you see a part on ebay going cheap ;) before you know it you got 90 percent of a bike.

sharky

09-06-2008, 11:15 AM

Yeah, I'll be keeping the frame,engine and dummy tank but using the rest of the bits on the XJR. The 1200 lump will go in the xjr, the 11 will be kept for the big bore as and when...
I can also recoup some cash by selling the stock xjr stuff on evilbay (sure no-one on here would want Yam bits, aye TK ;))

Tony Nitrous

09-06-2008, 11:43 AM

Your not alone Mate,

I wanted to do stuff to the B-King and a Ugly-Bus,
but ended up booking flights back to UK for Xmas.

My 05 Busa frame, arm and bits are still sat under
a dust sheet untouched. Can't do it all.

Tony.J.

Jockney Rebel

09-06-2008, 11:45 AM

shame mate that thing was looking well radical ....

sharky

09-06-2008, 12:18 PM

I'm gonna take some time to sit back and weigh things up....its one bike or t'other...

xjrjack01

09-06-2008, 11:10 PM

Hey Sharky I dont have my XJR anymore but I would like to see what yours would look like with a mono shock rear & USD front end, it can be done but it would take a bit of work I recon, I have heard early model FZR 1000 forks are a bolt in fit though may be a bit shorter. & as u know a busa swing arm will fit with some modification to arm & frame of course.

Zed14

10-06-2008, 06:31 AM

my mates name is puppet and he has 3 bikes 1 is a project and he can still go scuba diving.

sharky

10-06-2008, 04:35 PM

Yeah..So What ?....Thats great for him mate.....I can't afford 2 bikes and diving..
And I have found a fantastic job doing what I love so no change happening there.

Cruisecontrol

10-06-2008, 04:45 PM

I saw her today at a reception
A glass of wine in her hand
I knew she would meet her connection
At her feet was her footloose man

No, you can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
And if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

I saw her today at the reception
A glass of wine in her hand
I knew she was gonna meet her connection
At her feet was her footloose man

You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you might find
You get what you need

Oh yeah, hey hey hey, oh...

And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
If we don't we're gonna blow a 50-amp fuse"
Sing it to me now...

You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you need
Oh baby, yeah, yeah!

I went down to the Chelsea drugstore
To get your prescription filled
I was standing in line with Mr. Jimmy
And man, did he look pretty ill
We decided that we would have a soda
My favorite flavor, cherry red
I sung my song to Mr. Jimmy
Yeah, and he said one word to me, and that was "dead"
I said to him

You can't always get what you want, no!
You can't always get what you want (tell ya baby)
You can't always get what you want (no)
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You get what you need
Oh yes! Woo!

You get what you need--yeah, oh baby!
Oh yeah!

I saw her today at the reception
In her glass was a bleeding man
She was practiced at the art of deception
Well I could tell by her blood-stained hands

You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need

You can't always get what you want (no, no baby)
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need, ah yes...

sharky

10-06-2008, 04:46 PM

Very poetic...[xx(]

Cruisecontrol

10-06-2008, 05:35 PM

Not a Stones fan?

TurboKat

10-06-2008, 09:48 PM

I FUCKIN KNEW IT :( YOU'RE A POOFTER [:0]
You can't have too many motorcycles Rusty, just hang onto it
& dripfeed it for a few years if you have to, it means you'll always have something to do!

sharky

10-06-2008, 09:51 PM

quote:I FUCKIN KNEW IT YOU'RE A POOFTER
Could be worse.....Could be a kwak rider with harley bits in the garage [:0][:0]

sharky

10-06-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally my plan was a modern frame with a grunty FJ motor...
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8692&whichpage=2
....this all changed when the donor bike arrived for a silly price.....
Lots of thinkin goin on....before I make any rash decisions I'm gonna kick back and get back out on the road on the xjr...last rode on 8th april !!
Mono shocking/r1 f/end is gonna take a while and I'm itching to ride.

Large

10-06-2008, 11:02 PM

Zed14

10-06-2008, 11:55 PM

orright keep ya fuckin shirt on. no need for the attitude. i was just letting you know it could be acheived and that i had a mate.

xjrjack01

12-06-2008, 07:59 PM

Here's some inspiration for you Sharky

http://www.yamahaxjr1300.com/invision/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-547-1183796323.jpg

sharky

12-06-2008, 08:01 PM

Wicked mate....Where did you find that one ?

The more I see the more I like this mono shock/ USD idea..

xjrjack01

12-06-2008, 08:06 PM

And some more from XJR 1300.co.uk

http://www.yamahaxjr1300.com/invision/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-547-1183796395.jpg

sharky

12-06-2008, 08:26 PM

Posted the pic up on there with a 'who's bike' tag...hopefully get some info on the conversion.

12-06-2008, 09:39 PM

quote:Originally posted by sharky

Yeah..So What ?....Thats great for him mate.....I can't afford 2 bikes and diving..
And I have found a fantastic job doing what I love so no change happening there.

agree wholeheartedly with that.

however, don't sell of the project, just put it on hold and ride. one day you'll have enough cash to finish it! you never know with global warming+oceans rising+this diving caper. you might be onto something!