RATE YOUR FIGHTER

[Balakov]

Now seriously how do you rate your bike?

I'll set the bench mark as JUDGE being a 10!

How does yours rate up in comparison?

I rate mine as an 8 and a half.

[-Dex-]

Bout a 1.8

[suxukifreak]

Mines a 10+.

Evilkarls is a .1

[:o)]

[FIGHTERMC]

mine is now sitting on the floor of my shed
until i put it back together the weekend so
i'll give it a -10

[Weaselman]

-3 but only cus its a rat fighter

Bling bike 10

[BANDITROD]

8

[debaser]

Hmmmmmmmmmm after careful deliberation. I think it should be based on a Dollar/DIY/result equation. Anyone can get a 10 if they throw money and credit cards at it. Custom (bling) bikes have slowly crept into a scene that is based on rattle can matt black, back shed engineering and cable ties. Making things fit instead of getting things made.

My ride = 9.9 (cause it will never be finished).

[Cruisecontrol]

I concur.

[zx12argh]

This thread is ghey - who cares what everyone thinks of your ride. I do it for myself...
Oh and for the sheilas;)

[Fatgit]

ghey? ghey?

What are you queer or summat?

No wonder you ride a dodgy h@nda

[zx12argh]

When did you come back Chalky?

[BillyWhizz888]

Mines a Tractor
John Deere thinks its fuggin awesome [^]

Eyes peeled lads n lasses...
A Tractor ploughing a field in Casino near you soon :D

[Hagarr]

Debaser I'm with you the way you think is similar to me. Although the world of Bling is possibly easier to achieve than you would maybe think (As I'm sure you know). I have full respect for the guys with PIZAZZ!! but I also have respect for the guys for getting out the file and hacksaw and making their thing happen to. This is why I am still with this site because we all have individual taste and that's why I enjoy it so much anything from a Aermacchi to a Zundapp.
9.9 for me

[hooligan]

About an 8 - but i did win best streetfighter at last years AFR.

[Weaselman]

quote:Originally posted by debaser

Hmmmmmmmmmm after careful deliberation. I think it should be based on a Dollar/DIY/result equation. Anyone can get a 10 if they throw money and credit cards at it. Custom (bling) bikes have slowly crept into a scene that is based on rattle can matt black, back shed engineering and cable ties. Making things fit instead of getting things made.

My ride = 9.9 (cause it will never be finished).


that means mines a 10 cus it only cost a hundred bucks to build
0 for my XJR though hehehe

[debaser]

http://forum.oldskoolsuzuki.info/yabb/Attachments/matt.jpg

Matt black.........9.95/10 now.

[Iceman]

I've built my bike into exactly what I wanted it. Does that make it a ten?

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by Iceman

I've built my bike into exactly what I wanted it. Does that make it a ten?


I think so Ice, mine is far from a 10 though...but I love her, everytime I change something on the Ninja, I am thinking straight away about what is next to be modified.
cheers Rod

[KRASH]

quote:Originally posted by Iceman

I've built my bike into exactly what I wanted it. Does that make it a ten?




Good call ICE...
IF you like it, its got to be a TEN...

[damo1]

Im with 12r and really what the Brother ice is getting at.

This is a joke of corse your going to rate your own ride better than others would.

If you built it to what you wanted itys going to be a ten???

its unusual for you to build your own bike and say "OH fuck i only rate that as a 1.5"

And at the end of the day ive seen your bike balakov (in person)and i dont rate anywere near what you do so it all comes down to personal choice and what you personally think.

And i personally think the guys that put in all the hard yards and do the build them selves are the ones that rate higher like the brother ice/crus/mundys/damos/fimps/exbens/rexies and all rthe other guys spending all the spare time of a late evening drinking piss and building there bike themselves in there garage are the higher rated bikes for me.

As for your bike built buy one of the best in the bussiness Exben i rate his work on your bike very highly as usual.

But personally Bal you having your hand in your pocket and paying someone else to do your work mate in my books it rates very low on my scale.

[}:)]

[jakam04]

I was going to add a rating for my bike, but after Damos comment, it all seems so pointless... If this was a rating for other peoples bikes then there could be something to be had.

Jarrod

[BillyWhizz888]

GRRRRRRRRRR

So are you saying John Deere knows fcuk all :D

[debaser]

I knew this would end in tears. I lied anyhow, mine is really a 3 maybe a 3.2 and it's dirty, I never clean it. so thats 2 or three points. I paint it with cans, another 2 points off. I used ducati parts on a suzuki another 2 points off.

Of course it's a laugh. Mine turned out better than "exactly the way I wanted" so it's a fucken 15/10. All I care about is it's unique, I did it myself (apart from some welding) and didn't spend a year in someones workshop costing me a fortune. I admire the flashy bling gear, but it steps well away from the grass roots DIY level that streetfighters started out from. To be honest I don't even like the term streetfighter anymore. Noticed how they use the term to market bikes to the masses.

[Hagarr]

So many comments to make.So many thoughts running through my head. This is where it get's personal. As long as you are happy with your ride that's cool but we must always appreciate other people's art. Stay Cool and respect each others opinion/Ride.

[Fatgit]

quote:Originally posted by Hagarr

So many comments to make.So many thoughts running through my head. This is where it get's personal. As long as you are happy with your ride that's cool but we must always appreciate other people's art. Stay Cool and respect each others opinion/Ride.


fuggen hippy

My affair started a long long time ago......bugging a mate to sell me his slabby, well more kinda suggesting since he was an old fart he may need a newer bike to keep up with me on the ratty 750, anyways I buy myself a KLX-650R and he decides to put the slabby up for sale.......bye bye KLX.......owned her for a bit, fightered her a bit......then got broke and had to sell her.......Two years later wifey and me are history looking for new wheels........well an 88 1100 (black & gold to be sure), pick up trading post see one for sale, takes a look...and it's me old bike.....fairings and stuff back on and custom clamp and bracket and katana clocks gone bye bye(I wont mention the car grade oil and square section korean tyres)......Well how could I say no ?
More women problems.....blown up motard....come back to Sydney and she's being made, cough cough, respectable.......
My Fighter don't rate on a scale....it's a fucking love affair that's out lasted a wife and two very serious girlfriends

As for Bling...if it don't make ya go faster, stop quicker, handle better or reduce weight ya dont need it........why the fuck would you sat nav and a fucking dvd player on an R1 ? Feel like I wasted buying this months Rapid.....well kinda

[uncle pervy]

since mine still in the shed and still not finished. I guess mine's rated as -2

[oldskool]

What if you dont rate judge?
I like Oldskool fighters and jap chops judge just isnt my bag dont get me wrong top bike Im a big fan of thr home build old skool fighters.[B)]

[debaser]

Hey uncle pervy, you sticking a sat nav and dvd player on yours? I might go one step further and install a record player and a microwave!

[Brodie]

I am sure Balakov was being really really fair when he rated his own bike a 8.5

There are 8.3 points for its mechanical prowess........... and .2 for the paint job.


:-) :-) :-) :-) See there are no winks there......... I'm not joking!!!! hehehehehehe

Its okay i will take him in a fight. rofl

[Razorback]

Well the Kat is about a 7 naturally, then add a point or 2 for all the mods and another stuff...

So a 1229 Kat with GSXR everything... its always gonna be a 9.75 ;)

[Balakov]

quote:Originally posted by Brodie

I am sure Balakov was being really really fair when he rated his own bike a 8.5

There are 8.3 points for its mechanical prowess........... and .2 for the paint job.


:-) :-) :-) :-) See there are no winks there......... I'm not joking!!!! hehehehehehe

Its okay i will take him in a fight. rofl



Just wait B Just wait!!!!!!!!!

Mc's not happy!

[Brodie]

Your come back is pathetic fagell!! PATHETIC!!!

[Jockney Rebel]

fuk me........ handbags at dawn...or bunfight at the O.K.tearooms lol

[Fish]

quote:Originally posted by Jockney Rebel

fuk me........ handbags at dawn...or bunfight at the O.K.tearooms lol


Hey and no bricks in those handbags! keep to your corners and no tongue.:D

[Balakov]

Muffins will be involved if your not carefull!:>

[Balakov]

quote:Originally posted by oldskool

What if you dont rate judge?
[B)]


Well your fucking kidding yourself then!

[Jockney Rebel]

true........ i dont particularly like the Cistine chapel but its undoubtatly a work of art...
im a great lover .....easy....of oldskool fighters too but i can get inspired by all types of custom bikes
i appriciate the individuality which after all,is what all this is about

[336LJ]

I was wondering what the majority thought on this subject.
Its good to see so many fans of D.I.Y
I used to cop so much shit at my old work rocking up in my torana (which was painted in the front yard)
Calling me dodgy, even though nothing was wrong with it!,all because every nut and bolt wasnt chromed or the paint didnt have 50 layer gloss mirror finish on it. (Was still tidy as tho!)

Infact I made the comment to my old boss when he compared my home made "shitbox" to his flashy blinged up "car build of the week"
"Theres one thing that EVERY nut and bolt on my car has that yours will never have. MY OWN FINGERPRINTS, AND SWEAT!" (and skin off my damn knuckles)

Chequebook customs are all the same to me. and personally I dont think those people have the right to hang shit on anyone who did it their own way. bling or not.

[Bear]

I'm with him ^ :D

[damo1]

quote:Originally posted by 336LJ

I was wondering what the majority thought on this subject.
Its good to see so many fans of D.I.Y
I used to cop so much shit at my old work rocking up in my torana (which was painted in the front yard)
Calling me dodgy, even though nothing was wrong with it!,all because every nut and bolt wasnt chromed or the paint didnt have 50 layer gloss mirror finish on it. (Was still tidy as tho!)

Infact I made the comment to my old boss when he compared my home made "shitbox" to his flashy blinged up "car build of the week"
"Theres one thing that EVERY nut and bolt on my car has that yours will never have. MY OWN FINGERPRINTS, AND SWEAT!" (and skin off my damn knuckles)

Chequebook customs are all the same to me. and personally I dont think those people have the right to hang shit on anyone who did it their own way. bling or not.



This is exactly what im talking about and the point couldnt have been made any more simple than these words.;)

Its hard to skin your knuckles on your pockets reaching for your wallet ah Bal.:D

[Fish]

Well said 336LJ.

[debaser]

Yup everyone is pretty much making the same point. The flashiest blinged out no expense spared example doesn't automatically make it the best. Hanging a ten/ten on somthing will always be an individual choice.

Frankly if someones bike is to be rated a 10 based on the expense/result. Then I can't compare mine to it cause I didn't try and build somthing to compete with that.

A stripped down old skool fast road/sports bike with excellent braking and suspension. I think if you want a show pony thats exactly what you should get. There seems to be two (or more) definite schools of thought as to what makes a streetfighter.

Bolt on bits stuck on.
Get a "workshop" to do it.
Rebuild a wreck.
Modify some thing to make it better (cue The Six Million Dollar Man theme music).
Or buy a "factory" fighter.

Personally I would rather ride a 50cc scooter before some of these options.

[hooligan]

quote:Originally posted by debaser



Bolt on bits stuck on.
Get a "workshop" to do it.
Rebuild a wreck.
Modify some thing to make it better (cue The Six Million Dollar Man theme music).
Or buy a "factory" fighter.

Personally I would rather ride a 50cc scooter before some of these options.


I've got bolt on bits, my bike has been rebuilt 4 times (bought as a wreck in 99), and has lots of modified bits, and was built (and rebuilt) by Ben.
Does that mean it's crap cause i didn't build it myself? With that logic, my tattoos are shit cos i didn't do them myself. Does it mean that you can't have a big screen tv unless you build it? Can't go out for a great meal, and a couple of drinks unless you know the recipes? Get your hand off it.
I started MY build with no knowledge of what i was doing. I worked hard at my job, earned my money, and found the right people to do the work i needed done. I did all this without a licence, no car/trailer, so whenever i had to move it, i paid.
I refused to have an "unfinished project". Sometimes i got ripped off. sometimes i didn't (cheers Ben). I went to wreckers, bought the parts i wanted, designed my bike the way i wanted it, and paid to get MY project finished.I use it everyday, commuting, touring and trackdays. Still don't have a car licence.
If judge/venom/predator/insertfunkybikenamehere are great bikes cause the owners built them, if they get sold, do they suddenly become shit?

[Fish]

Hmmmm. Some good points there too Hooligan. I suppose this is the problem with opinions, everyones got a different one. I think in the end so long as YOU are happy with YOUR bike, what the fuck does it matter what anyone else thinks? Just so long as you ride and enjoy riding, be it Judge/Venom or riding your first 250 across (They are bloody fun!). Nothing else really matters, the world keeps spinning and so do my wheels. ;) Just my two cents.

[motogp_nut]

Well said Hooligan and Bitchy. I really admire that all of you get stuck in to your projects and do it how you want, regardless of whether or not you do it yourself. Not everyone is a welder/fabricator/whatever and sometimes even if you know how to do it, you might not have the resources - or maybe you just know of someone that can do it better!! Either way as long as your bike is the way you like it.

Which brings me to another point... I think it's cool how you lot listen to each others suggestions - but are comfortable enough to say 'thanks, but that's not the look I'm going for'.

Nuff said. [8D]

[oldskool]

Well said Jockney.
And Balacov go buy yourself a bike if you dont have the know how to DIY and too much cash to spend.

[debaser]

quote:Originally posted by hooligan


quote:Originally posted by debaser



Bolt on bits stuck on.
Get a "workshop" to do it.
Rebuild a wreck.
Modify some thing to make it better (cue The Six Million Dollar Man theme music).
Or buy a "factory" fighter.

Personally I would rather ride a 50cc scooter before some of these options.


I've got bolt on bits, my bike has been rebuilt 4 times (bought as a wreck in 99), and has lots of modified bits, and was built (and rebuilt) by Ben.
Does that mean it's crap cause i didn't build it myself? With that logic, my tattoos are shit cos i didn't do them myself. Does it mean that you can't have a big screen tv unless you build it? Can't go out for a great meal, and a couple of drinks unless you know the recipes? Get your hand off it.
I started MY build with no knowledge of what i was doing. I worked hard at my job, earned my money, and found the right people to do the work i needed done. I did all this without a licence, no car/trailer, so whenever i had to move it, i paid.
I refused to have an "unfinished project". Sometimes i got ripped off. sometimes i didn't (cheers Ben). I went to wreckers, bought the parts i wanted, designed my bike the way i wanted it, and paid to get MY project finished.I use it everyday, commuting, touring and trackdays. Still don't have a car licence.
If judge/venom/predator/insertfunkybikenamehere are great bikes cause the owners built them, if they get sold, do they suddenly become shit?



Before you get too personal, the point I was making is that we all have different opinions as to what makes a 10/10 fighter. Meals? Tattoo's? What ever man, just saying what I think. Get some one to build your ride, DIY, buy bits from some shop, I don't give a fuck.

[Jockney Rebel]

.as far as i can see there are 2 essential prerequesites to customizing anything be it car, bike, boat, plane ,your body
1} vision [and i dont mean the ability to see...lol]
2]utilising the skills you have
if you have a particular skill ,,youll employ it for instance im a maintenance fitter by trade ...the jack of all trades in engineering i was trained to maintain a factory production line making body panels for cars for Ford back in 1977
now this means i have a bit of welding experience a bit of turning and a bit of everything so whilst i understand cnc work i havent the experience to do it myself so i would get a turner to do it for me and fit it myself

if on the other hand if i was a draughtsman then i design all the stuff on autocad and then give it to an engineer to make then id fit it

using ben as an example ..the guy has vision and can apply it to such an extent that he has a successful businees doing it ..which means he not only can produce bespoke parts to a schedule but can make money doing it too which is nom mean feat and for that he has my admiration
but i also have admiration for the guy who utilizes what ever he has to hand ..an example of this is Russ [sharkey] using a chippies router to mill with


i spent last year patching up a 25year old honda cb900, fightering it and then rode it to dubbo ..it blew up 4months later [their engines were never the most reliable ]
i decided that it was time for me to buy a brand new bike since the last one was in 1978 i bought what i considered to be the best naked bike on the market taking in to consideration price and real world useability ...and a little bit of national pride
ive been modding bikes since the early 80"s in one form or another but because i never had the cash for a harris framed road legal tz750 i used what i had
one day ill have the dosh to do my dream bike but in the meantime ill ride the trumpy .. its about what does it for u nothing more nothing less

[Bear]

Speaking as someone who's been in and around bikes of all sorts since he was born but never owned a road bike until my current build, I think I can offer a fresh approach to all this. :)
My apologies if I state the obvious to some.

I think we're all missing the two main and pivitol points of acquiring/building/designing a naked/streetfighter - it's fun and individual! :D

That's why I got into it.

The factory bikes are one design with different paint jobs, basically, and most of them are pretty cool as is but what if you don't like wearing the same clothes as everyone else?

The first degree is purchasing some bolt-on bits to taylor it to suit you ride-wise and/or look-wise.

2nd degree (to me) is getting radical and taking a knife, sander, hacksaw, axe, welder, blow-torch, hand-grenade to it. It doesn't matter who holds the axe or throws the grenade but the difference is the extra pride you get if you're the one who's held the hacksaw. :D
That's my opinion.

I've done probably 95% of my build myself and it's not perfect to me (I see flaws everywhere I've had to cut corners or lacked the proper tools) but I am dying to ride it and am proud of it just sitting in my shed. I had to do most of it myself because I've got a limited budget but if I had the money, I'd get some things re-done by people with the right equipment.

It's been such an enjoyable process that I want to do it again and I'm envious of the guys who make a living doing it for others.

Positive comments and constructive critisism are going to encourage people to show off their builds here without fear of getting their pride slagged off. I'd like that to keep happening. ;)

I forgot to add - the main reason I wanted to go to this year's AFR was to see all the different styles and builds. I imagine it'll be like a true-blue bike show for the punters and not a sales show.

[Fight_fan]

I couldn't agree more bear! & I am truly envious of those who get to play with and or build bikes for a living! When i grow up i wanna build bikes too!

Individuality is the spice of life!(hope that doesn't come off sounding really gay n corny!)

[hooligan]

The point i was trying to make is that people seem to be rating the owner/rider, not the bike.

[oldskool]

Na , Just the bike.
Its all about the bike.
[}:)]

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by Bear

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The factory bikes are one design with different paint jobs, basically, and most of them are pretty cool as is but what if you don't like wearing the same clothes as everyone else?

The first degree is purchasing some bolt-on bits to taylor it to suit you ride-wise and/or look-wise.

2nd degree (to me) is getting radical and taking a knife, sander, hacksaw, axe, welder, blow-torch, hand-grenade to it. It doesn't matter who holds the axe or throws the grenade but the difference is the extra pride you get if you're the one who's held the hacksaw. :D
That's my opinion.

I've done probably 95% of my build myself and it's not perfect to me (I see flaws everywhere I've had to cut corners or lacked the proper tools) but I am dying to ride it and am proud of it just sitting in my shed. I had to do most of it myself because I've got a limited budget but if I had the money, I'd get some things re-done by people with the right equipment.

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I have to agree with you there.
Thats basically why I like doing things myself on my cars. cause I can drive it anywhere, and when someone asks I can say "yep,I bult that!" Its the gut feeling you get when you are riding/driving something you built.

I loved building models n stuff when I was a kid, so cars/bikes is kind of a GIANT version of that which is why I enjoy it.Not to mention I get a kick out of comparing what it cost me to do, and what it would cost to get done.(which grew out of actually being pov all the time as an underpaid worker [:p])

Bolt on bits, well yeah I think everyone does it cause its an easy way to make something look good (sometimes theres no other choice). depends what it is really.
I have no problems with that. I just try to keep it at a minimum..when it comes to bling anyway. most of its useless shit that does nothing, and most people know when they are about to buy something tacky anyway.

guys who pay someone else to do ALL the work for them.. wheres the pride in that? (im talking builds where people never turn a bolt on their own machine)
People who go round bragging "i built this, im restoring that" and have a car/bike in someone elses shed for 360 days of the year, and only go around to kick a tyre and hand over more cash.

9 times out of 10 these folk turn into those arrogant pricks who look down on the d.i.y mob and only have negative shit to say cause its no where near as good as what they have.. like a spoilt brat showing off and goin on about how much cooler their toys are

Im a bit narky about this cause its all I was exposed to when I was learning and it used to make us young blokes feel like shit when someone older/experienced would put you down for doin it as best you could. all because you never reached the same level as them over night, or produced the BEST results the first time.

nowadays though, thats all the motivation I need!, and basically the inspiration for me to do what I do and enjoy it more. cause I know I wont end up like those people ! instead of pointing out the bad things I prefer to help some bloke whos learning for himself and offer good advice, not bullshit!

I dont think if I had the money to pay someone to do all the work I would want them to. Id feel like I Was borrowing their project for the day !

[-Dex-]

quote:Originally posted by 336LJ
Im a bit narky about this cause its all I was exposed to when I was learning and it used to make us young blokes feel like shit when someone older/experienced would put you down for doin it as best you could. all because you never reached the same level as them over night, or produced the BEST results the first time.

nowadays though, thats all the motivation I need!, and basically the inspiration for me to do what I do and enjoy it more. cause I know I wont end up like those people ! instead of pointing out the bad things I prefer to help some bloke whos learning for himself and offer good advice, not bullshit!



Mate, I know first hand tha this site isnt about being wankers and looking down on other people's fuck ups. Look at my buyild thread nd you'll see what I mean. These guys are the real deal.

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by -Dex-

Mate, I know first hand tha this site isnt about being wankers and looking down on other people's fuck ups. Look at my buyild thread nd you'll see what I mean. These guys are the real deal.


Yeah thats why Im keen to stick around and learn a few things.
ITs refreshing to see a bunch of enthusiasts actually helpin out the newbies!
I stay away from car forums now. 90% of them get over run with dickwads.

oh for the actual point of this thread.. i rate my fighter..... wait.. can it be out of 100? [:p] I need about -80 cause I dont even have one yet!!

[uncle pervy]

well debaser the microwave sounds like a great idea but i think i'm going to go old skool and fit a pie warmer. that way i keep me toes warm on those long cold rides. an esky would be trick too except i'd have to lose the mirror ball. too much current drain