VFR 800, my first build

[Fish]

Fuck yeah, that's the winning feeling!

[Azrael]

That is looking well cool mate!

[I0seb]

Cannot find a single fecking baffle that'll fit the jardine can so I'll probably have to figure out something internal/custom.


On a happier note, picked this up today:


https://i.imgur.com/uILjTdm.png


Whaddaya think? Fighter or slap the fairings back on?

[rod185651]

CBR 250RR?? I would personally put Fairings on it

[I0seb]

CBR 250RR?? I would personally put Fairings on it

Thinking that too, although the fairings are gonna need a lot of work to be presentable.


https://i.imgur.com/YDvk6xG.jpg


She lives though, hopefully will start when I get the missing carb mounting bits I need.


https://i.imgur.com/CB3j4N2.jpg

[wackyrider]

Got a friend that is doing big bore kits for them :)

BK Performance here in Brissy (http://www.bkperformance.com.au/

R (http://www.bkperformance.com.au/)uss is your man

[rod185651]

Check out the Tyga fairing kits

[I0seb]

Got a friend that is doing big bore kits for them :)

BK Performance here in Brissy (http://www.bkperformance.com.au/

R (http://www.bkperformance.com.au/)uss is your man

That sounds sick, know what it takes the capacity up to?


Check out the Tyga fairing kits

Mate used to have a tyga mc22, I prefer the oem fairing style. Also want to spend as little as possible on this bike given it was free.

[LKC73]

Free bike! where the hell do I get a free bike from. I'd fighter it just for shits and giggles. Plastics are over rated.

[wackyrider]

That sounds sick, know what it takes the capacity up to?

Not too sure to be honest. Something like 280cc I believe. He was mentioning to me when I went to visit the shop as he's done it for his as well as for a customer

[I0seb]

Free bike! where the hell do I get a free bike from. I'd fighter it just for shits and giggles. Plastics are over rated.

Just gotta have a mate whose stacked his and cbf repairing it/has already stripped parts he needs for his other cbr250rr


That sounds sick, know what it takes the capacity up to?

Not too sure to be honest. Something like 280cc I believe. He was mentioning to me when I went to visit the shop as he's done it for his as well as for a customer

Hmm deffs something I'll look into when I've got the thing running, would be interested to see dyno numbers, particularly torque.

[GammaBoy]

I love the look of the small bore "Streetbomber" bikes out of Japan, like so:
This thing is probably my favourite:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaqTaPzFzxV/?hl=en

More of these maniacs:
https://www.instagram.com/night.tune/?hl=en

Some of them have a real "No fucks given" look. Racing Beet Aeroshark front guard is de riguer.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XO7APNjQCEE/WSv89ibGF6I/AAAAAAAA6PA/Cr1E6OAsgK8s1zlY-u5VIERbwwl81G_IACLcB/s1600/14.+%2540rikuga_723.jpg

[I0seb]

I love the look of the small bore "Streetbomber" bikes out of Japan, like so:
This thing is probably my favourite:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaqTaPzFzxV/?hl=en

More of these maniacs:
https://www.instagram.com/night.tune/?hl=en

Some of them have a real "No fucks given" look. Racing Beet Aeroshark front guard is de riguer.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XO7APNjQCEE/WSv89ibGF6I/AAAAAAAA6PA/Cr1E6OAsgK8s1zlY-u5VIERbwwl81G_IACLcB/s1600/14.+%2540rikuga_723.jpg

Now those are some nice bikes, super unique!

The brake lines on the last one are completely nuts, I love it haha

[I0seb]

Today was a good day :D


https://i.imgur.com/OvjnWkQ.png




https://i.imgur.com/bRpZYkm.png




Got her registered last night, since then have put 200 of the best kms I've ever had on her. Also attended a local group ride where we attracted a lot of very gratifying attention.


Found a few things that need fixing though, I definitely have warped disc, I need more speedo magnets and running a bit lean so probably need a tune.


Apart from those niggles shes been perfect.


I also found the only practical use for a smartwatch, tuning my speedo


https://i.imgur.com/LK90p53.png

[Squid]

Looks magic. It almost the perfect bike.

[I0seb]

Looks magic. It almost the perfect bike.

Wow, thanks! That's high praise

I have to say comparing how the bike handles now vs in stock form it's night and day. The short CBR forks and easily 20-30% weight drop have made an enormous difference. It feels much lighter than its wieght would indicate and is incredibly nimble in traffic, feels almost like a sumo.

Only thing I think needs changing are the headlight mounts as they limit the turning circle quite a bit.

[Gix11]

Nice one Seb. Looks good mate.

[hooligan]

I haven't logged in for a while...
I think I still have my stock vfr discs if you need them.
Mine is vfr is down to around 185kgs wet and say, 110hp (stock).
My MT09 is pretty much the same, which explains why a light weight VFR is hilarious.
which leads me to-

My wife is getting her L's. My MT09 will be getting moved on for a learner legal bike that I can commute on, and she can learn on.
Big Bore CBR 280, hey? That's learner legal ish....

Yes, squeezing my 190 odd cms onto a CBR 250 everyday may require renthals.

[I0seb]

I haven't logged in for a while...
I think I still have my stock vfr discs if you need them.

All good, gonna get a set of 330mm discs and space out the calipers.

Took her out to the local twisties this morning, suspension felt a little odd so I stopped in at the suspension smith who had a fiddle and made everything better.


That said I'm still gonna need to respring/valve the forks, shockingly CBR1000rr forks are sprung to heavy for a naked VFR.


So my laundry list of things to do is:


- New 330mm discs
- Make a coolant overflow tank
- RapidBike tune
- Suspension setup
- Paint/cf wrap the damn thing

[LKC73]

Congrats on the rego, and its looking good mate.

[rod185651]

All good, gonna get a set of 330mm discs and space out the calipers.

Took her out to the local twisties this morning, suspension felt a little odd so I stopped in at the suspension smith who had a fiddle and made everything better.


That said I'm still gonna need to respring/valve the forks, shockingly CBR1000rr forks are sprung to heavy for a naked VFR.


So my laundry list of things to do is:


- New 330mm discs
- Make a coolant overflow tank
- RapidBike tune
- Suspension setup
- Paint/cf wrap the damn thing

Does Cf means Carbon Fibre (imitation) wrap?

I’m not a fan of anything that pretends to be carbon fibre eh

[I0seb]

Yeah CF means carbon fibre, real stuff though, not vinyl wrap.

[rod185651]

Yeah CF means carbon fibre, real stuff though, not vinyl wrap.
Very cool

[GammaBoy]

suspension smith
Is good guy.

[I0seb]

Went for a night ride, took a pretty picture...


https://i.imgur.com/MGjAmFw.jpg


...aaaand made a massive mistake, one that I don't think will be fixed any time soon.


https://i.imgur.com/ucIvkva.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/PtzngbL.jpg?1


Rip VFR, hardly knew ya :'(

[Gix11]

Oh shit! What did you do mate?

[GammaBoy]

Looks like wheelied over backwards? Also, doesn't look unfixable!

[I0seb]

Given it was -1 pretty sure I hit some ice, lost the rear and accidentally grabbed a handful of throttle. Proceeded to loop the bitch haha.

It's fixable but subframe is bent so will need to weld up a new one. Have yet to check the forks.

[Bob]

Arr bugger dude.

[I0seb]

Surveyed the damage more thoroughly


https://i.imgur.com/ylEmGqT.png


https://i.imgur.com/bd0HGXl.png


https://i.imgur.com/exwoS8F.png


https://i.imgur.com/65I5Ewa.png


So to summarise:


- Snapped subframe mount
- Busted seats
- Bent subframe
- Snapped undertray
- Smashed rear cowl
- Busted muffler
- Bent right rearset (although Seb's adaptors held up just fine :thumbsup:)
- Bent bars and headlight mounts
- Cracked headlight
- Smashed dash
- Damaged YouTune module
- Massively dented tank
- Dented top triple clamp
- Ignition snapped in half


Pretty sure that about covers it, fingers crossed nothing else makes itself known.

[Gix11]

How about you? How'd you shape up?

[I0seb]

I'm fine, very gracefully ejected and landed on my ass :p

Won't be leaving home for a few days while I heal but that'll just give me time to figure out what I'm gonna do with the bike.

[Fish]

Faaark NO! You only just got it up mate! Glad you didn't damage yourself to badly, mend up and back to it mate.

[geesexar]

mate that just sucks balls all that work you've done...oh well back into it and glad you're ok

[wackyrider]

Fuck that sucks. Glad you're ok.

The subframe mount is where I'm cringing

[I0seb]

Fuck that sucks. Glad you're ok.

The subframe mount is where I'm cringing

Same, can't exactly weld in my apartment car port so I've just used metal putty to get it back on for the moment. With any luck I'll be moving to a house in a month or two so will be able to pick up a welder and fix it properly.

That said, allegedly the putty is rated up to 200kg/cm^2 of tensile force so might hold up alright.

[rod185651]

Fuck, glad you are OK, shit result after all the time put in with the build

[hooligan]

Holy shit! Glad you're ok.
If you part stuff out....

[I0seb]

Created a new thread over on Custom Fighters but figure I'll keep it all in one here for posterity.

This post marks the beginning of my VFR800 mark 2 (i.e. unfucking my shit)


So here's the bike as she sits


https://i.imgur.com/btlcKcn.png




To get the ball rolling I whipped up some quick and dirty headlight mounts using some spare aluminium and what was left of the headlight bucket for sizing.


https://i.imgur.com/wCI1Cjx.png


https://i.imgur.com/P0iXnMU.png


And after some angle grinding and hand filing


https://i.imgur.com/Q63MRQD.png


Finally got round to cutting off the fairing stay tabs which let me mount the headlight nice and tight to the frame.


https://i.imgur.com/DV5ml40.png


Just need to clean up the finish of the brackets with some sand paper but can't get over to the hardware store till my new helmet arrives #BikeOnlyLife


Gonna be making a running gif of the build so at the end I'll have a nice time lapse of all the parts going on.


https://i.imgur.com/jue0Nhk.gif


And thanks for all the support fellas, you're a great bunch of blokes. Cheers!

[LKC73]

Seb, so sorry to see this happen. Glad to read your all ok and going to rebuild it.

[I0seb]

Seb, so sorry to see this happen. Glad to read your all ok and going to rebuild it.

Thanks man! Way I see it shit happens, just gotta get over and on with it.

With that in mind, chopped the ignition bracket and went to whack the triple back on the bike at which point I noticed it was massively skewed. One side was easily 5-10mm out of alignment with the other.

But about half an hour with a hammer and mallet later:


https://i.imgur.com/QRtwHoX.png


Went on alright


My current plan is to mount the dash right between the upper triple and the headlight and mount an anti-vandal switch in one of the bar riser holes to control the keyless ignition circuit.


https://i.imgur.com/VlsRyYi.jpg


Also my clutch MC is completely rooted so I'll need to source one of those. Anyone got a spare? ;)


https://i.imgur.com/4FCsCRZ.png

[hooligan]

Imight have the stock one laying around.

[I0seb]

Imight have the stock one laying around.

Sorry, just saw this. Thanks but dw, gonna try repair my CBR one with some metal putty.

In other news tank has arrived :)

https://i.imgur.com/tHlHRoz.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/4ymKC9U.png


https://i.imgur.com/rplrYRY.jpg


Cost me $50 + $40 for shipping and $30 for a locksmith to cut a key for the new cap. It's got a couple minor dings but is in great condition overall and came with a fuel pump which is a nice bonus. Most tanks here seem to be listed for ~ $350 without a pump.


I've ordered a new headlight and all the parts for the keyless ignition, hopefully they will arrive in the next week or so.


Here's the new progress gif:


https://i.imgur.com/G9Aaigk.gif


And the running cost total:



Tank - $120

Total: $120

[Gix11]

Win.

[wackyrider]

Glad to see you're back on the horse mate

[I0seb]

Headlight on


https://i.imgur.com/BNEQhrD.png


Running costs:




Tank - $120
Headlight - $40

Total: $160

[I0seb]

Seat arrived :)


Ended up going with an S2R seat for a few reasons, one it was $100 cheaper than the Buell seat would have been and 2, I have a mate with an S2R whose brain I can pick about the subframe. So without further ado:


https://i.imgur.com/Uwt0hJe.png


https://i.imgur.com/BdUSgyQ.png


I reckon the lines work really well and the Duc seat meshes perfectly with the 6th gen tank.


https://i.imgur.com/ZNPFxjc.png


https://i.imgur.com/NshGBTQ.png


New dash arrived and I picked up the relays and switch I need for keyless start, just waiting on the module itself.


Progress gif:


https://i.imgur.com/ClyjEj9.gif


Running costs:

Tank - $120
Headlight - $40
Seat - $140

Total: $300

[Bob]

Coming back together mate.

[LKC73]

That looks really good.

[I0seb]

Wired up the keyless ignition, works great.


https://i.imgur.com/QFVA1KT.png


https://i.imgur.com/yIGCnlA.png


The circuit is comprised of a keyless door unlocker for a car, three DPDT relays and a latching switch.


The relays are necessary as the door unlocker only grounds the unlock/lock wires for a second rather than toggling them on and off. Wiring diagram will explain it better than I can with words:


https://i.imgur.com/7DSMo3W.png


Haven't wired in the battery saving sensor wires yet as one will need to go into the brake light.


Currently, when the keyfob is in range, the LED on the key switch is illuminated and one side of the switch is grounded. When the switch is toggled it grounds relay 3 which sends power to the rest of the bike. When the keyfob is removed from range, the lock signal is sent, relays one and two toggle and the key switch is ungrounded, in turn toggling relay 3, cutting power. Hopefully that makes sense :thumbsup:


Running costs:

Tank - $120
Headlight - $40
Seat - $140
Keyless kit - $40 + Switches & Relays - $30 ($70)

Total: $370

[Gix11]

This is another great topic! Nice one Seb.

[LKC73]

So what sort of key fob are you using to have a proximity signal to be able to start the bike? Looks interesting.

[I0seb]

It's a DEI keyless entry system for a car. Fob is just a standard looking keyless car key.

[I0seb]

Finished up my proximity ignition:


https://i.imgur.com/dm4sXUK.png


And a video of it in action:


https://streamable.com/5hcwa

[GammaBoy]

Question - what happens if the bike is switched on/running and the fob moves out of range (ie you ride off with the fob sitting on the bench, or the fob falls out of your pocket?)

[I0seb]

Question - what happens if the bike is switched on/running and the fob moves out of range (ie you ride off with the fob sitting on the bench, or the fob falls out of your pocket?)

Good question, the main button is ungrounded which ungrounds relay 3, switching off the bike the same way turning a key would. The fob falling out is a possible issue but not really a whole lot I can do about that short of just putting it in a secure pocket.

Also with the experience I've got with this wiring harness it'd be easy as fuck to hotwire :p

[latheboy]

Seat arrived :)


Ended up going with an S2R seat for a few reasons, one it was $100 cheaper than the Buell seat would have been and 2, I have a mate with an S2R whose brain I can pick about the subframe. So without further ado:


https://i.imgur.com/Uwt0hJe.png



The bike seems to NOT be level on those stands, Wheels look to be different heights off the ground but it hard to tell.
I like the rear of the seat to be level with the top of the fuel tank when it's sitting on it's wheels.
Looking at that picture I'd angle it up a few degrees and have another look at the seat position.

[GammaBoy]

The bike seems to NOT be level on those stands, Wheels look to be different heights off the ground but it hard to tell.
I like the rear of the seat to be level with the top of the fuel tank when it's sitting on it's wheels.
Looking at that picture I'd angle it up a few degrees and have another look at the seat position.
Front wheel looks miles higher. I reckon with an appropriate block of wood under the front wheel, it would be very close to the top of tail being level with top of tank.

[I0seb]

The bike seems to NOT be level on those stands, Wheels look to be different heights off the ground but it hard to tell.

You're quite right, my front stand is taller than my rear stand. The seat positioning was just temporary as I was waiting for this to arrive before I finalised it:

https://i.imgur.com/5jj9689.jpg

[GammaBoy]

You're going to chop up a non fucked Monster frame for the Subframe?

[I0seb]

You're going to chop up a non fucked Monster frame for the Subframe?

Nah, it's WOVR. Was only a couple hundred bucks.

[I0seb]

What do you guys think, too steep or about right?


https://i.imgur.com/kIKX752.jpg

[wackyrider]

Looks about right. The angle of the tail (looking at the pillion seat section) looks to be matching the lines of the tank. Seat height looks about right too from standard, but you'd obviously want to sit on it to be sure

[latheboy]

I think that looks pretty good, if you drop the headlight so that the top is tangent to the line from the seat and tank it'll look great

[GammaBoy]

Was the frame damaged prior to chopping it? Whatcha doing with what's left?

[I0seb]

Was the frame damaged prior to chopping it? Whatcha doing with what's left?

Didn't notice any damage so not sure why it was written off. I'll keep the leftover for another project, maybe furniture or something who knows.

[I0seb]

Dropped the seat angle a little, reckon it looks a bit more natural.
Also finished my coolant overflow ;)

https://i.imgur.com/BBre4V2.png


https://i.imgur.com/SZPkitG.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/RlBiPUE.png

[Gix11]

That works well.

[wackyrider]

Was the frame damaged prior to chopping it? Whatcha doing with what's left?

I'll have a R1 frame & subframe in about a month that is on the WOVR if you're interested in buying. Also a bonus it'l be in QLD :D

[I0seb]

Dash mounted, can't believe I didn't think of this last time :P


https://i.imgur.com/i0ZGAdO.jpg?1


https://i.imgur.com/xreCgFf.jpg?1


https://i.imgur.com/u4Y2P1H.jpg?1

[Gix11]

Ha. Nice!

[GammaBoy]

I'll have a R1 frame & subframe in about a month that is on the WOVR if you're interested in buying. Also a bonus it'l be in QLD :D
Nah, not really my thing.

[I0seb]

Did a first prototype for the undertray and put the electrics back in, looks like everything will fit nicely.


https://i.imgur.com/3BWtga5.png


https://i.imgur.com/wSrh1p0.png


Super happy with how the keyless system works (https://streamable.com/uxyhx), thinking I'll mount the on/off button in the steering stem.

[rod185651]

I personally hate electrics, but I remember continually push starting Fimps TLR due to gremlins with his key-less ignition.

Has reliability improved?

[I0seb]

I personally hate electrics, but I remember continually push starting Fimps TLR due to gremlins with his key-less ignition.

Has reliability improved?

I've always liked electrics cause they make sense to me, if something doesn't work as it should it's wired wrong and needs to be fixed.

There will be battery drain when the unit is active but the lithium battery should handle it fine. I also have a master switch to toggle the unit on and off for when I leave it alone for longer periods.

[wackyrider]

I've been running an M-unit keyless ignition from Motogadget for the past 5 years without an issue. Well, once i sorted out the internal short that kept draining the battery that is. Mine is a swipe on / off style though rather than proximity but i love it. Stops me from accidentally riding off without the key, haha

[I0seb]

I got some Brembo bling


https://i.imgur.com/bhsAqF7.jpg


And the bike got a new home :)


https://i.imgur.com/3HgMG6y.jpg

[Gix11]

Proper garage mate? This is all turning out very nice hey?

[ozzy1100]

I’m really digging this bike, masters look ace
and is that a led h4 bulb your using and if so how do you
find it

[GammaBoy]

I’m really digging this bike, masters look ace
and is that a led h4 bulb your using and if so how do you
find it
The Phillips LED H4 is supposed to be really good. Takes up a bunch of space behind the reflector though.

[I0seb]

Proper garage mate? This is all turning out very nice hey?

Yep, finally. I'm quite happy with the bike apart from some issue causing super stiff steering.


I’m really digging this bike, masters look ace
and is that a led h4 bulb your using and if so how do you
find it

Thanks! It's an eBay special, only cost around $60 for a pair.


The Phillips LED H4 is supposed to be really good. Takes up a bunch of space behind the reflector though.

Yeah I have to run mine without the waterproof cover to have enough space,might seal it later but seems fine now.

[Gix11]

Super stiff steering? The stem isn't bent is it?

[I0seb]

Super stiff steering? The stem isn't bent is it?

Not sure, haven't been able to check yet. I don't think so though, I certainly hope it isn't haha

[LKC73]

Looking good, in regards to the stiff steering, you haven't over tighten the stem nuts at all?

[I0seb]

Taillight really brings the rear together

https://i.imgur.com/RUWnmlv.png?1

[I0seb]

Looking good, in regards to the stiff steering, you haven't over tighten the stem nuts at all?

Seems to have sorted itself out without me, probably imagined it haha

[Gix11]

Love the continual progress mate. This is a great build.

[hooligan]

you have until November.
then we will establish the first VFR800 cup through the snowies. I mean NFR.

[I0seb]

you have until November.
then we will establish the first VFR800 cup through the snowies. I mean NFR.

Fingers crossed I'll get there, welding up the subframe mounts is the last major job.

[I0seb]

Prepped the bottom subframe mounts for welding and started hacking up my old midpipe for my new exhuast.

https://i.imgur.com/u4GbKz5.jpg

Just gotta learn how to weld now...

[Gix11]

Cool. These new "non-underground-parking-area" photos are making the bike look different again. Tidy little project this one.

[wackyrider]

Loving the new look too

[I0seb]

Exhaust done, sounds great and I'm somewhat impressed with the quality given it's Chinesium.

https://i.imgur.com/47rf2E4.png

https://i.imgur.com/4X1LcQj.png

[hooligan]

That's gonna make some noise.
Love it.

[I0seb]

That's gonna make some noise.
Love it.

Sounds 10/10 but actually not too bad as I put a baffle in the header, pretty civilised at idle.

[I0seb]

Bike is officially sit-on-able :D


https://i.imgur.com/hmcUF7x.jpg

[Gix11]

Excellent...

[Bob]

Loving it mate. Top stuff

[Nudie]

That looks great!



(I wonder how it feels to fit on a bike and not make it look like a 125)

[I0seb]

That looks great!



(I wonder how it feels to fit on a bike and not make it look like a 125)

Pretty great, I fit on everything! One of the upsides to being on the shorter side :P