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Squid
12-09-2014, 08:20 PM
G'day, Long term owner of a tri-colour '94 fireblade, great bike, but was always kinda thinking about ripping her clothes off and turning her into something a little less respectable.
But i think ill preserve her honour for a bit, and looking at a new project - i just dont know what it is yet!!

Basically something that handles, goes and stops like the 900rr without giving me dead hands after 5 minutes of straight road, and has the under seat storage and pillion-ability except with more torque and doesnt look like a fuggen transformer like all the current bikes do.
Is that so hard??

Cheers, Nick.

rod185651
12-09-2014, 09:15 PM
Welcome Nick, heaps of bikes to inspire you here

Squid
14-09-2014, 08:32 AM
Cheers mate, yeah no shortage of inspiration here, paid my fee and it was worth it.

Large
14-09-2014, 08:41 AM
Hi and welcome Nick

Squid
14-09-2014, 02:09 PM
Thanks for the welcome guys, lovin this forum so far, so much porn, and some of the threads are an absolute pisser (im thinking of the "take that cunts tools off him" thread for one, lol.
So anyway, I'm completely new to sf scene, even though i always loved the concept.
So newb question number 1; what is the easiest way of putting a handlebar on a sport bike? Drill and tap the triple clamp? Where to go to get bits and pieces?
Feel free to flame, but also feel free to point us in the direction of any threads/ websites on this!
I dont want to give too much away just yet, but i may have a cunning plan (not involving my 'blade)

Tony Nitrous
14-09-2014, 02:40 PM
Hi Nick, welcome.

There a few options on top yokes.
Drill and fit risers, have one made, etc etc.
Most popular models have them available off the shelf from the UK or Europe.
That the option I went with with my Busa.

http://s8.postimg.org/bsz438yl1/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
screen shot on windows (http://postimage.org/app.php)

Be aware:

Some Moto-X / dirtbike bars aren't suitable.
There isn't enough straight for the extra switchgear.
This puts the master cylinder mounts on the first bend,
and the levers don't pull in square to the bars. Most bars are OK
but it's a shit if you buy the wrong ones!

Normally looms for switch gear, throttle, choke / fast idle can be made to reach,
tank off and re-route around the frame, behind / through / Infront of the forks and
I've kept stock ones on GSXR's / Busa etc.

Be prepared to buy new hydraulic clutch / brake lines, they are often a bigger issue.

If your removing fairings / Tupperware you lose the mirrors. Many bikes like GSXR's
and Hayabusa's don't have mounts on their master cylinders, but.... You can often swap
the little half moon clamps from a bike that's does, GSX14 go's onto Hayabusa etc.

kartras
14-09-2014, 03:32 PM
Welcome aboard Nick


Be aware:

Some Moto-X / dirtbike bars aren't suitable.
There isn't enough straight for the extra switchgear.
This puts the master cylinder mounts on the first bend,
and the levers don't pull in square to the bars. Most bars are OK
but it's a shit if you buy the wrong ones!

Where was this advice when I did mine.........

Squid
14-09-2014, 07:09 PM
Thanks Tony, Kartras, yeah that does sound like the type of advise that 99.99% would have found out the hard way.
So I just go to Renthal, pick out the bar I like (making sure its for road bikes) and the clamps i like and then either bolt them in or get them welded on?
Re hydraulic lines, yeah not too worried about that, I know a guy that can make these for me. And wiring, thanks for the tip re un-tacking and rerouting, failing that i imagine not too much drama to lengthen, but i imagine a tidy up will be in order anyway.
Mirrors, headlight and dash may not be a problem, as i think i may be able to keep the nose-cone on with this particular bike which i choose not to disclose just yet.
Its still all pipe dreams at this stage, but if i'm right, i think i might be on to something that will be ridiculously easy, ridiculously fast, and will pretty much piss off everyone on one level or another.

Tony Nitrous
14-09-2014, 07:39 PM
Yeah, if your pulling a full fairing off, or even just the lowers, expect to find stuff like
wireing looms, fuse boxes, relays etc. They don't make stuff real pretty because its
normally never seen. It's all fixable with a bit of thought. My current bike had the fuses
extended to go under the pillion seat and relays under the rear of the tank.

If its water cooled the rads can be a but ugly.
A pet hate of mine is naked Busa's rads, the top hose comes out the front and go's down
and under, looks awful! It's quite common to move the stub to the back, and blacking the
silver / grey rad helps too.

Plenty of after market clock options, I recently went KOSO but there are smaller cheaper ones about.

Gix11
15-09-2014, 09:47 AM
Welcome aboard mate.

Squid
15-09-2014, 07:08 PM
Thanks Gix.
So anyways, the big hairbrain sceme was to buy this ducati 1098 with a skidded up fairing and meticulous service record, and then strip that bitch down to her undies, but looks like i missed the boat on that one. The other idea that iv had floating around in my head for some time was a triumph speed tripple (perhaps blown??) but im not 100% sure i like the look of them - something about the frame annoys me on an aesthetic level. I just love the idea of the tripple pot engine.
Now im looking at gixxer 1000s circa 2001 - 2004. Just wondering on how low and mid range torque on a gixxer would compare to the old 893cc 'blade??
Iv never ridden one - sheltered life
Im chasing more torque, but dont want to give up agility.

Squid
15-09-2014, 07:16 PM
Tony, that top yoke on your busa looks the shit. Got a build thread?

Gix11
16-09-2014, 08:45 AM
Even though it is computer generated, I still love this Triumph concept:

http://streetfightercommunity.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/original_speed-triple-1050-krax-moto2.jpg

I guess you've looked in here Squid? : http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/showthread.php?27203-Triumph-Speed-Triple

and of course here: http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/showthread.php?9320-Suzuki-GSXR1000-2000-Present

wackyrider
16-09-2014, 11:53 AM
Welcome mate. I used to have a Fightered R1 and now have a K4 GSXR that I built. No complaints on torque or top speed. Love the bike

Squid
16-09-2014, 04:33 PM
Hmmm... so much porn.... Those triumphs do scrub up alright, but im thinking now a stripped down k1,k2 will give me the better bang for buck and be the thing iv been searching for.
Thanks gix and wacky, sick cunts!

hutch
17-09-2014, 07:52 AM
welcome mate

Squid
17-09-2014, 07:55 PM
Cheers hutch.
Ok, stupid question #2
Buying a bike privately, what is the protocol in regaards to payment method, paperwork background checks ect.
Its been ages since iv bought a vehicle off a private seller.
Is there a thread on here on the subject?

Bob
17-09-2014, 08:16 PM
Welcome mate,

Gix11
18-09-2014, 08:48 AM
Is there a thread on here on the subject?

No there isn't, but that's a good idea.

Which State are you in mate?

Squid
18-09-2014, 01:45 PM
Melbs. The bike im looking at is clean, low km and serviced, but no reg or RW.

Gix11
19-09-2014, 08:32 AM
Not 100% on the ins-and-outs of VIC regulations. Maybe one of the VIC guys can help you out here?

Squid
22-09-2014, 01:23 PM
Ok i ended up test riding a couple of rsv mille's and a tuono chasing this magical mystical "more torque" thing, agonised over which one to get, all three were pretty nice, low k's and well priced (one of the milles had carbon wheels and all the trackday fruit btw, holy shit do carbon wheels make a bike nimble!!!)
and even though i suppose they had torque and midrange, i was a bit under whelmed by all three bikes as far as having any real grunt under 4-5k rpm, by which time my 900rr has pretty much already got its cock out anyway, not to mention, the v-twin sounds pretty much the same to me regardless of rpm, and i just fit on the 900 better. Getting back on that is like slipping on my favorite undies.
So after getting offered $800 for the blade because it needs $1200 worth of roadworthy items (it does) so they can sell it for $3k, iv decided to tizz her up a bit and keep it. chuck on a top yoke and handlebar, and start toying with ideas for a nose cone on it.
Its going to be a pretty slow build, and pretty much going to be a no-fucks-given aproach (apart from mechanical items) as im still up to my arse in the car im building.

Anyways, im looking at getting a top-yoke from topyokes.com, they look the biz, but it seems renthal handlebars are hard to come by these days. Everything on their site seems to be "no stock left".

So the question is; Where else can i get a "drag" bar or a handle bar with no rise on it, similar to the renthal [edit, sorry] "road sports", prefferably in a fat bar?
I dont know which brands are which. Just dont want cheap shit.

Cheers Nick.

Squid
22-09-2014, 01:56 PM
6080 there she sits, not that anyone's never seen one before (with dust, photo's a few months old, been riding a lot more again lately) looks easier to fighter than an aprilia too. nothing stupid attached to the frame or anything. tank is a nicer shape, easier on the eye.

safighter
22-09-2014, 09:53 PM
go the blade !!

Squid
22-09-2014, 10:52 PM
Fuck yeah!

Gix11
23-09-2014, 01:03 PM
So the question is; Where else can i get a "drag" bar or a handle bar with no rise on it, similar to the renthal [edit, sorry] "road sports", prefferably in a fat bar?
I dont know which brands are which. Just dont want cheap shit.


Ben will make you some up, whatever spec you want: www.extremecreations.com.au - Drop him a line and mention you are from here.

Large
23-09-2014, 02:09 PM
$800 for that? I'd fork out at least $1500

Fuck bikes are cheap nowadays....but maybe a good reason to keep it and mod it how you want.

I don't think Ben makes bars. There's a few makes of fatbar around, but they mostly seem to be "fat" to avoid having the crossbar thingy in them.. and you only need the crossbar because of all the bends.

If you want to stay low the Renthal type dragbars shouldn't need the added fat.

stiffsimon
23-09-2014, 05:34 PM
Have a look at these, there's loads to choose from. I got myself the Streefighter bars. Nice quality bit of kit they are too

http://shop.kenma.com.au/categories/Ventura-Motorcycle-Handlebars-/

Squid
23-09-2014, 06:34 PM
You guys are awesome. will investigate these leads further.