My first road bike, what should I get?

[Sir.Pinkie]

So I am looking at bikes currently and have narrowed it down to the CFMoto 650nk and the Hyosung GT650 naked. LAMS trim for me unfortunately...

I am leaning towards the CFMoto because of how visually pleasing it is but then I have always loved the beautiful singing voice from the Hyosung. I was looking at a dirt bike to turn into a motard but I have only ever ridden stubby 250s that are short just like myself and I really would like a bit more poke than a 250. Yamaha wr450f looked so yummy, until I couldn't get both my feet on the ground.

I've been looking at Hyosungs for 2-3 years now and always imagined in my head how I would turn it into a neighbour annoying, fire breathing, baby Ducati sounding street fighting monster, then the CFMoto caught my eye in spectacular fashion a few months back and now they are both competing in my head of who is going to have their living quarters next to my pool table.

Hyosungs beautiful singing voice vs CFMotos pretty face.

Anyone with experience please let me know. I am looking at 2012 models.
Biased anti bike brand opinions aside please, I know they aren't the most popular, but they fit my budget of 5k.

Pros and cons welcome.
Having mechanics in my family and being quite handy myself, I don't mind pulling it apart now and then, as it won't be my primary transport. I still have a four wheeled pansy cage as backup lol.

I have roughly a week before I want to commit to the purchase my first LAMS bike.

[ALBI]

Forget both bikes and go something better !

Bandit , gsxr , sv , tls/r , zxr , ktm duke etc .

[xa-mont]

Sv. Like a hyo, but better in every imaginable way

[safighter]

anything but a Suzuki,vfr 400 maybe

[geesexar]

sv's are good value...tony if only you had the balls to ride a suzuki mate.... you would find out

[Tim]

you can get alot of bike for 5k.. and alot better then your current too picks..

[safighter]

oooh geesexar thems fightn words,lol,go HONDA

[hyofighter]

been there and done the hyo thing bought it new had it for 2 years and sold it for less than the third of the price as there resale is terrible, they do have there dramas and go well though mine spun a crank end bearing at 12000k, i thought that they handled well but i had just gotten of a 82 gpz750 so anything was a improvement i suspect cfmoto will be the same , for similar money id go for a sv, er6 , or something older in the name brand range in 750 plus , my 95vfr owes me about 5500 as it sits today and is a brilliant bike has been fault less and the best bit is i made it myself ,last year i bought dazzas yzf750 streetfighter 90 percent complete for a grand and all as it sits ready for rego it would owe me close to 3g and a heap of my own time but i know that bike inside out now too , and just on the weekend i picked up a 95 zxr750 for a grand sure its not pretty but it wouldnt take much to make something different out of it and be unique for less than 5g , just saying there are better options to a hyo and a cfmoto for 5g , sure not 2012 models but you can make something no one else has

[Nudie]

If you like the sound a Hyo makes, you'll soil yourself at the song a VTR1000 sings!
Reliable as the sun and plenty of good ones around with a heap 'o' change from $5k for you to alter it

[nick76]

Does it have to be LAMS,or are you fully licenced?

[Cruisecontrol]

A bloke at work bought one of those CFmoto things. He got exactly what he paid for which was a piece of Chinese junk. The rear wheel hub shat itself within about two thousand kms and he has been fighting for a warranty fix since.
As stated, there are many better Japanese bikes you can get for that sort of money. They may have a few ks on them but are decades better than anything coming out of Korea or China.

[Redmohawk]

If you want boom boom of a twin and the 1000 isnt you cup of tea, Yam trx850 go alright and you'd get change from $5k if you look about or a real tidy low km unit .

[ALBI]

hmm good choise trx 850 !
I had a deposit on a thundercat when they first came out , but woke up to it .

[Sir.Pinkie]

Yeah sorry, has to LAMS approved. I gotta follow them road rules.

I looked at a DRz400 in motard spec today which I really liked.

[Tim]

I looked at a DRz400 in motard spec today which I really liked.

been there done that.

great fun, but not much chop for long rides.(not that they cant do it) or where the average speed is going to be high, great fun in the tight stuff though.


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[Redmohawk]

600 monster would fit the bill then cheap enough (ex queensland grey import would set you back $3.5 to 4k) But you'd be a duke fag. And have people asking you whats wrong with your clutch/bike all the time

[nick76]

KTM625SMC......pretty much bulletproof,when set up nice....awesome in the twisties....not much will keep up with you if you're having a go,fairly comfy for long rides...will see close to 200kph....

Not many SMCs in the country....they go better and faster than the KTM640SM....pumper carb and different ignition...and these are LAMs...unlike the 640!!!
Tho...having said that....my 640 had LAM on the rego,even tho it wasn't supposed too....

something like this.....

http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-2588481/2005-KTM-625-SMC?cr=1&psq=(((((((SiloType%3D[Brand new bikes available])|(SiloType%3D[Brand new bikes in stock]))|(SiloType%3D[Demo %26 near new bikes]))|(SiloType%3D[Demo %26 near new bikes]))|(SiloType%3D[Dealer used bikes]))|(SiloType%3D[Private used bikes]))%26((Make{%3D}[KTM]){%26}(Model{%3D}[625 SMC])))%26(Service%3D[Bikesales])&pso=0&pss=Premium

or this....
http://i.imgur.com/dSZbpQc.jpg

[ALBI]

Ktm 390 ??

[hyofighter]

Cb400 lams old school look ?

[Tony Nitrous]

Street Triple (there's a LAM's version going on sale)

[StuNVA]

Cagiva Raptor 650, SV donk, looks cooler, not a POS like the CFMoto, low enough for a short arse, LAMS.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-420068/2001-Cagiva-Raptor-650?cr=1&psq=((((((((SiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20av ailable%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20i n%20stock%5D)%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near%20 new%20bikes%5D)%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near% 20new%20bikes%5D)%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20 bikes%5D)%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20bikes%5 D)%26Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D)%26BikeAll%3Dkeywor d%5Bcagiva%5D)%26(Make%3D%5BCagiva%5D%26Model%3D%5 BRaptor%20650%5D))&pso=0&pss=Premium

[Sir.Pinkie]

After trying the CFMoto and the hyosung, my short little legs don't touch the ground very well. I'm going to have a look at some other bikes, the VTR250 is on my list to look at.

[hyofighter]

The vtrs are cool . Mate 2 doors down has one they dont look to bad . I swear i just heard someone say turbo it !

[Hagarr]

they do have there dramas and go well though mine spun a crank end bearing at 12000k, just saying there are better options to a hyo and a cfmoto for 5g , sure not 2012 models but you can make something no one else has

We know why they fuck up big ends don't we Scotty LOL!

[hyofighter]

Hunting jappas and the odd buellhaha

[Sir.Pinkie]

Buells are by far my favourite bikes. I saw a lightning once when I was younger and it instantly replaced the fireblade as my favourite bike.

[davo]

This thread is inspiring. I'm gunna join a mixed netball team tommorow

[hyofighter]

In all honesty buells should be on the lams list ....................... wait for it i hear billywhizz coming haha

[nick76]

In all honesty buells should be on the lams list ....................... wait for it i hear billywhizz coming haha
Im surprised they are not....afterall...it does come down to a power to weight ratio....who cares if they are bigger than 660cc!!

[Sir.Pinkie]

Wow, I am such a sheep. I just fell in love with a Ninja 250... I know, I am embarrassed for me as well. I'm going to have a gander at the ninja 300 as it just goes that much better. If I like the 300 more and can bring myself to hold out buying for a small while, I'll get that instead.

[Gix11]

I had a little CB400 to play with when the ex missus passed her test. I can tell you now that they are a great bike. I used to scream the crap out of it and it would take anything I gave it. Reliable and fun is an understatement. I believe you are looking for the sound of a twin though, and , especially if you are vertivcally challenged, the SV650 is a winner. Very short and the main reason smaller guys and chicks get them. You'd also have your twin rasp you like as well then. Get a decent can on it and Bingo!

[GammaBoy]

Wow, I am such a sheep. I just fell in love with a Ninja 250... I know, I am embarrassed for me as well. I'm going to have a gander at the ninja 300 as it just goes that much better. If I like the 300 more and can bring myself to hold out buying for a small while, I'll get that instead.
God those things sound like shit.

[nick76]

God those things sound like shit.
With or without a pipe. Barely hear them without....and,like most 250s, sound silly with them.
Just looks wrong to hear something screaming,and when you see it,its doing the speed limit.
I told my missus that she's not allowed a pipe on her ninja 250!!

[Sir.Pinkie]

I couldn't agree more, they do sound like shit. But I am willing to put up with that while on my learners and P's if I can have a new reliable bike that I don't have to fart ass about with. I'll ride it like I stole it, within the law of coarse and when I sell it I'll get something bigger that sounds a shit load sexier. I did think about the Honda 2013 cbr250R but it does sound like a dirt bike, which I don't like in a road bike and the power vs the 300 just doesn't cut it in my eyes.

[GammaBoy]

For gods sake, buy a Sv650. it's better in pretty much every way than every single one of the shitboxes your'e listing off...

[ozzy1100]

im with si , Im a big fan of the cb 400

[GammaBoy]

im with si , Im a big fan of the cb 400
Or one of them - they even vaguely look like a proper bike.

[davo]

Get a 1984-5 GSXR-400. Sounds like a real GSXR, Goes better than a CBR 600, Pulls chics at the local milk bar. What more do you need to establish yourself when your 16. Worked for me... 24 years ago and ive only owned GSXR's since.

[hyofighter]

Your still not hanging out at the milk bar though right ?

[davo]

um hullo...free Wi-Fi = winning

[hooligan]

It also means the girls aren't taller than him.

[Danboy]

If you don't fit on a cf moto or a hyo now, how are you going to fit on a bigger bike later? Sorry to piss on your parade but its something to think about. There are of course plenty of options for lowering suspension and cutting down seats.

[Sir.Pinkie]

That's why I'm trying before buying ;) going to look at a ninja 300 tomorrow.

Wish they made a Ninja 300 naked... That would be perfect. I suppose I could make one myself too. Benelli 302 is nice, but out of my price range.

[TurboKat]

Get a fucking SV 650 FFS !
The shortest chick I've ever known rides one, all she did was cut a bit out of the seat foam & she can touch the ground no worries so unless you're a dwarf/midget you'll be sweet as bro.
SVs are an extremely underrated bike, a full system, airbox mod & rejet REALLY wakes them up, they're cheap as chips, they're made by Suzuki, what more do you want?
Have you bought an SV yet?

[BANDITROD]

Yep I second the sv650 perfect first bike

[GammaBoy]

Buy restricted SV650. Remove throttle stop and cut the ecu wire or ground it or whatever the trick is.
Bingo, unrestricted SV650, registered as a restricted, pull wheelies on your Ls, impress the sluts at the bus stop. job done.
Ninja 300 will not impress. specially that brown note exhaust.

[Sir.Pinkie]

I can't afford an SV but I can afford a Gladius in lams trim. I looked at the seat height and it is the same as the ninja which is good. The guy with the ninja hasn't called me back yet which is a little disappointing.

[K6Thou]

How about this for a crazy idea...... Buy whatever the fuck you want !!!! Build it, strip it to get it how you want it to look and or perform...

[nick76]

Might be worth the drive south????
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/port-macquarie-region/motorcycles/sv650s/1044004571

[Sir.Pinkie]

Unfortunately not for me.

[GammaBoy]

Look, with all this talk about 250 and 300cc Ninjas, I'm beginning to think you're a girl, or some kind of penis enthusiast.

[GammaBoy]

The only time a parrallel twin is cool is when they're either 50 years old, a laverda, or a 270* crank.

[stiffsimon]

Or an RD 350LC ;)

[Sir.Pinkie]

Look, with all this talk about 250 and 300cc Ninjas, I'm beginning to think you're a girl, or some kind of penis enthusiast.

Pff, what on earth would give you that idea? I just like that I can touch the ground with my stumpy little fat legs.

[GammaBoy]

Or an RD 350LC ;)
Oh yer, forgot ringdings.

[nick76]

I think Mr Pinkie shoulda signed up at netrider.............

[StuNVA]

I think it's a gee up, I'm a sawn of little cunt and so far every bike this guy has come up with is gayer than a jar of butterflies.

Buy a fucking SV and put some dog bones on it and drop the forks down, simple.
Fucking 300 ninjas...geeez...

[davo]

300 Ninja was highest selling bike in Aus 2013 by a long way,i have pitty on our future riders. Old mate Cum breath has a $5000 budget and cant afford an SV...?.I cant believe this thread has gone 3 pages already...! Get a fuckin Piaggio.

[BANDITROD]

Lol in comes Davo with an uppercut

[Sir.Pinkie]

Pff, I bought the Ninja. I think some people forgot I am on Learners. I went and looked at the Gladius but it was in really poor condition. Went and looked at a basically brand new Ninja 300 and bought it 20 minutes later. I'll get something bigger when I get opens, until then, I'll ride my horrible sounding sheep bike.

[ozzy1100]

if it works and was cheep who gives a fuck, trash shit out of it and not die in the first week.
As soon as you fuck it, you will fuck it somehow trust me then it will be worthless so just cop it up.
By then you will at least have a idea what is worth it and what is not.
My ride bike atm only owes me $1400 and is just a ruff choppy chop, I cant remember the last time I had so much fun.
All on a pile of shit, runing all over the place visting dirty women instead of just chasing them.
Learn the craft young grass hopper cause it isn't pretty

[Sir.Pinkie]

I got the dirt bike for the thrashing around and falling off part ;)

[ozzy1100]

please turn to the left and join the line named women

[davo]

Congrats on your purchase, ride safe,and not like you stole it. Do a reputable rider training course. And FFS change your location,coz that is just ghey. There is a Briz weekend ride being planned for July if you want to tag along,will probly be a few young blokes there i'd say. Great way to establish your cred on this site.

[ozzy1100]

will probly be a few young blokes there i'd say. Great way to establish your cred on this site.

god help the poor little fuckers......

[davo]

...Sons of Older Members,all ride within their ability.We give em a head start so there is no pressure. You can lead them off if you join us. Put your visor down coz it will be like a meteorite shower when we pass you.

[Sir.Pinkie]

Fortunately for you guys I wont be attending the July ride, so you can rest easy tonight ozzy.

My visor has an auto shut feature at 55K's or higher, so I found out the other night.

I rode shotgun on the highway the other night and the back seat is quite good, it's not too hard on the ass which was surprising.

[davo]

Yeah Ozzy...your so obnoxious sometimes.

[GammaBoy]

I rode shotgun on the highway the other night and the back seat is quite good, it's not too hard on the ass which was surprising.

Riding on the back of a Ninja 300 would suggest that your arse is used to copping a pounding.

[Gix11]

I did laugh....

[Cruisecontrol]

http://geniusquotes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/What-is-an-Askhole.jpg

[Sir.Pinkie]

please turn to the left and join the line named women

Come on over, let me introduce you to some of my lady friends.


Riding on the back of a Ninja 300 would suggest that your arse is used to copping a pounding.

Yeah, gokarts aren't very comfortable either.


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First reply said avoid them and get something better, Ninja 300 is a zxr right ;)

[Sir.Pinkie]

And FFS change your location,coz that is just ghey.

5767

[Gix11]

You know what, you've taken some shit and you're still here. I admire that mate. It's almost like a vetting stage, pussies just cry and leave.

[ozzy1100]

You know what, you've taken some shit and you're still here. I admire that mate. It's almost like a vetting stage, pussies just cry and leave.

as un pc as the old days where they at least had this very effect :-)

[Sir.Pinkie]

I knew how deep the water was before I jumped in.

[Gix11]

Nice adage.

[MattyDucati]

I knew how deep the water was before I jumped in.

other then your bike, you'll fit in well here lol

[wackyrider]

other then your bike, you'll fit in well here lol

hahaha

[Sir.Pinkie]

other then your bike, you'll fit in well here lol

As long as we fit, small but pleasurable, everyone is a winner!

[safighter]

do you write fortune cookies ?

[davo]

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