The Wretched

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by revheadpete

nice looking bike just gotta ditch the tupperware


Tupperware?

[Chase]

quote:Originally posted by revheadpete

nice looking bike just gotta ditch the tupperware


Laughs.. WTF? Not looking at your kitchen sink were you Pete?

Lookin good Rod - can I bring my salad over! ;)

[rod185651]

I got a little concerned when I checked my oil to find the glass all milky.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272305835.jpg


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When I dumped the oil It wassn't that bad, maybe a little lighter in colour then it should be.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272291138.jpg

When I removed the internal clutch cover I found where the milkyness came from. However; I'm at a loss to where the moisture came from. The only thing I can think of is maybe some water got in there when I swapped covers about a month ago.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272274800.jpg


I've checked the water pump and it seems to be fine and I'm guessing if it was a head gasket or cracked head I would have other signs and symptoms also?

I haven't put back together yet, I have to get new gaskets this week for the clutch cover and internal cover.

[Weaselman]

if the rad is bubbling when its running its the head gasket

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by Weaselman

if the rad is bubbling when its running its the head gasket

Cheers Weasel, but the only coolant problems I've got at the moment is fluid from the overflow is not returning to radiator. But it's not overheating. I've flushed radiator, fitted new cap and inspected water pump.

If it was head gasket wouldn't the oil that I drained from sump be more milky?

[Hillsy]

Some bikes get milky oil from only being used on short trips. The oil heats up and then when you shut the bike the oil absorbs water (through condensation) as it cools. Next short run is not long enough to evaporate that water, and shutting it down absorbs more, etc...After a few weeks of this the oil is milky.

Probably just needs fresh oil and a long run.

[Weaselman]

water from a blown head gasget wont turn the oil milky as it doesnt leak in a large volume and most normally finds its way into the cylinders.
unless it was a catastrophic failure. If the rad isnt bubbling like a spa then im with hillsy

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy

Some bikes get milky oil from only being used on short trips. The oil heats up and then when you shut the bike the oil absorbs water (through condensation) as it cools. Next short run is not long enough to evaporate that water, and shutting it down absorbs more, etc...After a few weeks of this the oil is milky.

Probably just needs fresh oil and a long run.


Cheers Hillsy, I thought of condensation however; a few time a week I ride it from Sydney to Dapto (90km each way) and less than a month ago I rode it to Jindabyne for the AFR.

The majority of the milky oil substance was trapped between the external and internal clutch covers so I'm starting to think that water must of got trapped between the covers whist it was off the bike a couple of months ago.

[336LJ]

It couldn't have originated from between the 2 covers could it?
I don't remember there being any liquid in there when I sent it, as luck would have it, when I went to order the gasket to take mine off, they had a clutch cover at the wreckers that looked in better nick anyway so thats the one I sent you - so maybe it had some water/creamy stuff in there from the last bike it was on? Surely would have noticed it though?

[rod185651]

I THINK water may have got into the breather which joins the two covers when I stripped the paint off. I Clean forgot about stripping the paint off before fitting it. The more I think about it the more obvious this seems to be the source of the problem.
[:I] LOL What a Dick head

Thanks again for everyone's input I appreciate it

[rod185651]

My Girlfriend Nic is pretty handy with a grinder so while Pete has the bits for painting we have decided to fix some parts starting with the exhaust hanger.

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[rod185651]

At this years AFR Muz told me the Wretched had a fat arse so after a bit of soul searching I decided he was right, but instead of dwelling on it I decided to take some action.

The K3 sub frame
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1276483182.jpg


I've removed all the tabs and cut off the rear of the subframe where the pillion cowl sits
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1276516827.jpg


Once I have modified the Rear of the subframe and brace to fit the new seat cowl it will be re-welded back on.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1276461265.jpg

[336LJ]

^Ohhhheeee me likey - can't wait to see how this turns out ^

[RevHead]

hey rod were did you get the ova flow botle from and how much fella

[rod185651]

Heya Pete, the overflow bottle is just an alloy sports drink bottle, I got it from Supa Cheap Autos for about $4.95.

[RevHead]

thank y bloke

[rod185651]

The new tail is starting to take shape

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1277464500.jpg

[rod185651]

The New paint scheme, Thanks again to Pete (Revheadpete) for painting the Tank, head light, front guard and seat cowl. At the moment still polishing the wheels and waiting on a few other goodies to arrive.
But on track to have it finished for the NFR.


http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1281840786.jpg

[Fight_fan]

Mate that tails come up a treat hey! Bikes lookin siik!

[FIGHTERMC]

tail is looking sweet mate

[Chase]

Looking good mate.. Be good to see her in all her glory November :D

[RevHead]

the spikes in the front guard look great,i like it

[Gitzy]

Looking good mate, keen to seen her in the fleshyness.. that tail looks tops..

[rod185651]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys, appreciate it. I think I'll be seeing Kev about recovering the seat to match the new colours.

[kev@vcm]

rod ive been following this thred mate , well done mate its come along way

[RevHead]

rod i gotta get me 1 of those front guards ,

[CBRRRT]

Sweet as mate.

How about taking off the clip-ons and swaping them over so they face up, and give you the same look as gixarons front end. [8D]

[rod185651]

Ordered these Discs from S3 Performance on Tuesday night and had them in my hands Friday. Pretty good service and their prices are cheap for an Australian business. Mine cost $228 for the pair.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1288470833.jpg

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by CBRRRT

Sweet as mate.

How about taking off the clip-ons and swaping them over so they face up, and give you the same look as gixarons front end. [8D]


Sorry John,I forgot to reply to your suggestion, do you have any photos? I used to have flat bars, but I prefer the more aggressive riding position of clip ons.

[rod185651]

Thanks to Chase, I've finally got a pair of mirrors I can live with.

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[Bob]

Bikes looking great mate....

[Elapid]

Looking good Rodnumbers

[Gitzy]

That's a wicked cockpit view, the clipons look great, are they driven grips?

[rod185651]

Thanks Guys, yeah Todd they're driven grips. I'm slowly getting there

[Chase]

Lookin sweeeeeeeeeeeet Rod!

Is it too late to vote for best fighter?? ;)

[rod185651]

Went to the beach for a surf today and it was absolutely rubbish, so on the way home I stopped in at Repco and bought some mesh.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1288590553.jpg

[Large]

I can't see teh cooler or bov brah

[RevHead]

thats lookin shit hot rod,nice discs look like mine lol

[nick76]

Looks good Rod.
Did you drop the forks that far thru the clamps,so you can attatch the clip ons above it?

[Jockney Rebel]

mental mate looks awesome

[rod185651]

Cheers guys, Yeah Nick, the forks and top triple clamp are pretty close to the factory position. Maybe slightly lower, but not by much.

[el sammo]

nice! you can turn and flip the clipon mounts from left to right for a more upright stance too sort of halfway between clipons and MX bars

[CBRRRT]

Looks the nuts mate, well done fella.

[Fight_fan]

Fuck yeah! Thats siik Rod! I wanna get a set of those disks for mine too hey!

[rod185651]

This is how it looks right now, (pretty filthy actually) the plan is to fit the new front end this saturday
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My wheels are made for a k4 gixxer 1000, so a mock up to see how the rear wheel will fit the ZX9R subframe
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/IMG_1095.jpg

Looks like I might be able to use the stock ZX9R rear caliper
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/IMG_1096.jpg

[Gitzy]

Holy Shiz.. What new front end?? Is that hooligans old wheel?? have I missed something.. fill me in Rodster..

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

Holy Shiz.. What new front end?? Is that hooligans old wheel?? have I missed something.. fill me in Rodster..


The front end is of a K3 gixxer 1000
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/KGrHqQOKjE26J262qBN1BFcZB4w_12.jpg

The original plan was to buy Chris's wheels but his front wheel was beyond repair. So I sold the 600 and bought some new ones

[Gitzy]

Ahhh sweet, The Wretched gonna rock even more now.. How much coin were the new wheels and where from if you don't mind me asking Mate? There Carrozerias right?

[RevHead]

the wheel look great,

[BANDITROD]

Fuck yeah looking good rod

[rod185651]

Thanks guys,anyone got a ZX7R or ZRX radiator they want to sell?

[phil delivers]

I'm a huge fan of your rear wheel.
Really nice front, looking forward to complete picture.

[Surt]

noice wheels and forks rod luv the colour and 2000 bucks kissed ur arse good bye eh?

[Fight_fan]

Fuck yeh! Those wheels are shit hot man! Lookin good.

[Chase]

That's looking fkn sweet Rod [:p]

[wackyrider]

That's looking sweet Rod.

[hooligan]

Those wheels look great, Rod. Are the calipers one pad per piston?

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by hooligan

Those wheels look great, Rod. Are the calipers one pad per piston?


Yeah mate,they're the K3 model. Four pads on each front caliper.

[hooligan]

you will have to stop the upgrades to this bike. It isn't very wretched anymore.

to help out, I'll take the front end off your hands, and you can have my wretched VFR 800 one.

[hooligan]

Oh, and weigh your old forks and calipers, you'll be surprised how much lighter the new stuff is. With the new wheels and suspension, it'll feel like you've added another 20hp, my 711 felt fucking awesome after the k4 front and carro's.

[rod185651]

You're not wrong, now I know why Kawasaki went back to telescopic forks for the c model, the B model USDs weigh a tonne

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by hooligan

you will have to stop the upgrades to this bike. It isn't very wretched anymore.


I was actually thinking Parabola may be a more appropiate name.

[rod185651]

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[Watto]

fuck those wheels look horn [:p]

[Yella]

Yep shit hot

[Gitzy]

Sooo much WIN..

[LKC73]

[:p]

[rod185651]

Cheers Guys.
I want to use the Zx9R triples so I sanded of about 2mm from the inside of the lower yoke tube holders so the forks will fit.
For the top yoke I'll have to make some shims.

I removed a little from the subframe using a mini belt sander so now I can use the larger diameter K4 rear axel.

[pav69]

gonna be a kawasuki soon rod very nice upgrades buddy are you doing anything with the backend shock wise ,i want to do something with mine but dont know what direction to head for a better shock that will fit

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by pav69

are you doing anything with the backend shock wise ,i want to do something with mine but dont know what direction to head for a better shock that will fit


Yeah mate, I upgraded the rear shock to a newer one of a ZX6R.

[pav69]

was it much hassle making it fit ,im pretty sure i need one with a remote resiour as i dont have much room with the battery in my 95750 .i do need to upgrade the rear now the front is done feels average coming from a bike with ohlins front and rear

[Cotter77]

Nice wheels. When did they rock up?

[ALBI]

fark me they look sweeeeeeet mate

[fimpBIKES]

Awesome rod

[rod185651]

Thanks Guys.
Tim: He emailed me on the Friday to say the wheels were ready, they arrived the following Wedneday.
Pav: Yeah I had to relocate the Battery and remove the old battery box to fit the new shock.

[Large]

Looks good Rod.

[rod185651]

I need to make some shims for the top yoke to fit the fork stems.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/IMG_1101.jpg

I'm thinking 1mm thickness should do the job.

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[Chase]

Or a billet triple.....;)

[rod185651]

That would be nice

[phil delivers]

Those hoops are briljant.

[rod185651]

I made some half shims for the top yoke. Too be honest I'm not to sure.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/Wretched03july003.jpg

I Made one spacer and rear wheel fits perfect.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/Wretched03july004.jpg

The clip-ons are now underneath and flipped the bars.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/Wretched03july002.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/Wretched03july005.jpg

Still need to find a Zx7R Radiatior and paint headlight

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/Ninja/Wretched03july001.jpg

[BANDITROD]

That looks awesome rod but I'm not sold on the shims idea I wouldn't ride it like that and I can be dodgy as fuck sometimes

[rod185651]

Cheers Rod, yeah I made them from alloy and they seem to have bitten in ok..... but I know what you are saying

[Gitzy]

That looks wicked Rod, Just with the shims, there has been heaps of blokes swap out the front of there TL and shim the bottom yoke as they are 55mm, and people usually go with GSXR front ends which are 54mm or even 53mm with some really new ones, and they never have any dramas..

[Yella]

Looks great, paint and wheels looks sweet with it all together

[Yella]

And how do you go with your plate not being at the back any additon attention from the nanny state enforcers

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by rod185651

Cheers Rod, yeah I made them from alloy and they seem to have bitten in ok..... but I know what you are saying
Righto then how about using coke cans ....years ago I used to use them on my gokart to make the car by fit the barrel properly ...just cut into strips and fit at least that way you can go all the way round

[nick76]

Looks real good Rod.
The wheels and forks really set it off.

[LKC73]

Rod the bike looks great with the new forks and wheels mate, but yeah them shims arnt safe at all only being half. I wouldnt trust them.

[Fight_fan]

Lookin most awesome brother! U still usin the same headlight???

[rod185651]

I've got a different headlight mate.

After sleeping on it, I've decided to shave more off the shims in attempt to fit both sides in.

[Fight_fan]

quote:Originally posted by rod185651

I've got a different headlight mate.

After sleeping on it, I've decided to shave more off the shims in attempt to fit both sides in.


YaY on both accounts there! :D

[Chase]

Looks great Rod!

... would look awesome with a billet top.. would also solve the shim issue.

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by rod185651

I've got a different headlight mate.

After sleeping on it, I've decided to shave more off the shims in attempt to fit both sides in.
Good stuff mate ...you have come this far with it so you may aswell finish it off properly I reckon ...btw those wheels are pure porn

[wackyrider]

As Rod said mate, don't leave the shims as they are. Just get a thinner material to use and do it evenly all round

[Gitzy]

Ahh half shims.. I didnt read that bit.. yeah go wrap round Rod.. heaps better..

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by rod185651

I've got a different headlight mate.

After sleeping on it, I've decided to shave more off the shims in attempt to fit both sides in.


The way you've got them now would be trying to twist the forks I reckon.

[fimpBIKES]

looking good rod
definitely all-the-way-round shims
i've got half mm (i think) ally ones on the TL and have done thousands of k's riding like a pussie with those on

that said i dont think i would shim top and bottom yoke, but just one would be fine

[Cotter77]

hmmmmmm Shims........................

Looks good man. You gonna anodise the forks a difernt colour?

[rod185651]

Not yet mate, the plan is to get it back on the road for some riding, then after NFR strip her down one last time for a complete facelift including a little powdercoating and some anodising.