RIP Aussie Streetfighters

[zx12argh]

Sup fellow fighters,

Long time no see. Thought I would drop by to see the old site and see whats going on. A few of you probably remember me, most of you probably don't but I was the keen red headed fella who stalked the site incessantly for a few years with a custom ZX-12R. This site was the shit, a bunch of smart arses, giving each other crap, talking bikes, riding bikes and having a general good time.

Unfortunately the operative word here is "was". I mostly dropped by to see if things had changed since the last time I decided to stop coming here.

Hmm not really.

12 odd posts in the main Streetfighters Talk section this year, the rest possibly hidden behind a paywall that I have no intention of coughing up dollars for.

When I joined this site it was constantly updating, new stuff popping up all the time. Shit, I'd sit there hitting refresh just to see what was new. Times have changed, last time I was here (couple of years ago) I had posts deleted because I was trying to sell some stuff (at a loss to me) because I wasn't a full financial member. Lets forget the time spent behind stalls setting up, selling shit, promoting the website. Sour grapes from me? Maybe. I don't really give a fuck. I've moved on. It's just a bleeding shame that such a great site has become a shadow of its former self. The fact that I am still in the top 20 of posters two years since my last post is proof that this site has really wound down.

What do I reckon caused this? Segregation of the site. Having paid and unpaid sections turns newbs off faster than a fat kid on veggies. Ask yourself, why should a new guy sign up and cough up the dough to see the members section when people wont even spend 99 fucking cents on an app these days.

People advertising shit on this site to buy/sell drove traffic here, but then the "members" section was created and you had to pay to sell stuff or see the "special" sections. It used to be that new people would check the goods and maybe move on, but others would stay and contribute, adding to the forum. Now you almost have to be a financial member just to give shit away (check turbokats post).

Really do you think that shit works? I always thought the point of a Streetfighter was "I crashed my bike but I'm too hard up to put the original plastics on". Paying to get access to this site is antithesis to the core of fighting. Pay for a site? You may as well be riding a ducati.

I'm not saying I have the answers. I know Si has bills to pay to keep this site running, but I'm telling you that this site has losts its relevance to the streetfighting community.

I didn't write this post to stir shit. This is just my honest assessment of the state of play. There was a golden era for this site, and pardon me for saying, but this ain't it. How do you fix this? Remove the paywall. This site was always hard to get on board with considering the way newbs are often treated. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's just one of the idiosyncracies of the site but who is going to pay to be called a fuckhead no matter how nicely it is said.

How do you make this site financial? Ads. Yep its a dirty word but it works to a degree.

Add a donation button with a metric - i.e. We need x amount of dollars to maintain the site. Sure it's close to begging but its got more honor then asking people to pay for information that is free on the internet.

Sponsored rides, get a group of ASFers together for a ride, throw the hat around and there is months worth of bandwidth.

Not saying this is the be all and end all of ideas but its INCLUSIVE of new members rather than EXCLUSIVE.

Right, the rum is wearing off, time for a refresher.

Flame on guys'n'girls.

I hope this is taken as constructive criticism... haha yeah.<

tl;dr; the site has gone to shit since charging people. fix it so it's inclusive and not exclusive.

[MattyDucati]

Some good points for sure! I'd for one would keep paying just help out with site. I haven't been here for that long but i must say its not as fun as it was when I got here

[stiffsimon]

Tend to agree with the not being as much fun as it used to be. Too many people spitting their dummies out, getting into absolutely pointless arguments and using the site to promote their own political beliefs that have absolutely nothing to do with bikes.
Having said that I don't mind paying the membership fees, but that's just my thoughts.

[RevHead]

Tend to agree with the not being as much fun as it used to be. Too many people spitting their dummies out, getting into absolutely pointless arguments and using the site to promote their own political beliefs that have absolutely nothing to do with bikes.
Having said that I don't mind paying the membership fees, but that's just my thoughts.

x1 agreed

[Tony Nitrous]

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[DCRacing]

x2 Tony

[Redmohawk]

Your point on the cost putting people off my be a valid one , a solution needed to be found though and Si did what he thought had to be done.

I hope you plan to stick around , as to regain the original "Feel" of the old site we need to retain as many thinking members like yourself.

Welcome back.

On a side note , I wonder if opening the chat room to all members would be a better option. I'm a gold member to support the site so others don't have to pay heaps (and I'd bet the other gold members feel the same) , more than any extra privelages. The ASF pub needs drinkers Si, no fun drinking alone.

[Tony Nitrous]

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[wackyrider]

Sadly what you have said is true, things have changed a lot over the last 6 years or so that I've been a member. There is a lot more bickering nowadays, but a few people want to sit on their high horse and feel important so they chew people's heads off before we even have a chance to find out what they are like.

As was mentioned the site unfortunately cannot run for free and I don't mind paying the member fees nowadays, however when I did join up I was a bit hard up on cash for a couple of years and every cent counts.

I would still keep 'donating' if I had no extra area's to see. Here's and idea that can be put to vote to see what people's opinions are. One way to find out if the money is a deterrent for new members is to open up the full members are to non donating members and they can keep the 'privilege' of having an avatar or a photo as a signature.

For this to work though, the people paying for membership would still have be keen to 'donate' the same amount of money that they are now. I would say that this is a worthy topic to have a poll on to see what people really think.

[El_Hefty]

When it changed to a pay for access it certainly dropped off the traffic. About the same time there was a running battle between a few folks here that became a little tedious all around a rating system.

Theres also facespace which seems to be gathering momentum and while it does i guess it can only take away from here.

While its here ill always support it, as Tony's pointed out its really bugger all for what can be an informative fun place. Maybe some folks need to agree, myself included, to not drag the place down with bickering etc ....

I for one now vow more pics of my bikes since i have a few projects going ATM and no more slander...

[Yella]

A majority of the forums I am on have a members/ paid area all part of running a site not a big issue. Not much goes on behind the wall anyway.
I don’t pay for a special area I pay because I can (didn’t always have the spare cash) and I think the site is a great resource and if I can help support it all the better. Different avatars and the like maybe a good thing but again not essential. I have been around a little while now with varying levels of involvement ( depending on other life demands) ,never been a big poster but log in a couple of times a day to see what's happening and catch up and I have seen changes. Has the site lost some of its "feel" Yes.
Some of it is due to keyboard warriors attacking people for little or no reason it has always happened but seems to be more lately and people trying to promote some bullshit mindset but this forum has always been the wild west of forums anything goes so its going to come with the territory, its only a small part.
The main reason I see is the site just doesn’t have the bike related posting traffic that it once had people are building bikes but not posting updates or threads ( I try to post updates even when I don’t really have an update or pic’s helps keeps me focused ). I remember when someone could post a question in a thread and you would get 15 answers now you lucky to get 1 or 2 and normally from the same members in most cases. I am sure facebook contriubutes to this because of how easy it is to access but I still like the forum style.
I see a core group doing 90% of the posting. Do the non paying members still have to jump through hoops to post? Doing the verification each time? If so I can see why that would push people away. Even members seem to have backed away maybe it’s just timing with people working life ETC.
I don’t know why I don’t have any answers.
Is the ASF dead far from it people are still here it just a quiet time it will kick off again. Just my 2c

[kroosn]

For me the decline came about after the last big successful fools run at Casino. That last year was a blast and there were so many members and potential new members that turned up. It was the decision after that to turn it into a business. The next year was a flop. A combination of bad weather and trying to turn it into a carnival attraction and turn a profit from it. It was the arguing over that where the forum lost several involved members. Then remaining were too many who would just argue and abuse any member they saw fit.

Custom bikes are expensive but if you are going into this world street fighters is a cheaper way to start so we attracted those members. These members would then be quickly shot down because they weren't paying a professional to build their bike and it wasn't matte black.

Anyhow I wish I had the answer to bring it back to the eclectic gathering that it once was but I just don't know if it will turn around now.

[Yella]

Not sure about getting shot down for doing it yourself as that is what its all about for me but the Matte black thing I can see.

[Weaselman]

Ive been kicking around here a long time and I agree. Even my posting's has trailed off.

The quality on here is thinning out sure enough. I too used to be plastered to the screen because so much in depth shit was going on. Weather it be builds or discussions over riding and the riding life ect.

(Dont forget I ran Riders Against Bureaucracy)
I pay the money gladly because Ive been to the events I've done the time and I have a loyalty to this site and the many friends i've made on it.
But things have changed.

Lets take the impending AFR for example. People talked in circles about it and when 1 member finally put his hand up and organized something he was completely shot to shit by other members who didn't like the plan.
Did they do anything off their own bat? No they fucking didn't.

If its not getting done for them it wont get done and when in the past you'd have people coming from all over to get together its become an us and them state to state affair.

We used to hang off fighters like nothing else mattered but now like it or not we are all turning into lazy keyboard heros.

The spark has gone out of ASF but we are all ourselves to blame.
But there's no way in hell I'd ever quit it.

[ozzy1100]

the captin always goes down with the ship you strange rooster :-)

[Weaselman]

Fishes... Fishes everywhere

[Mr Ed]

Time and tide wait for no man. I don't know what this site used to be like but apart from the odd completely un- bike related shite that rears it's head, it seems to be pretty friggin good. I haven't posted much but then don't have much to say, my bike's only lightly? modified but time and greenbacks will change that. Maybe the site needs a bit more input from some of the new peeps, and a bit less wining (moaning, not drinking wine). Anywho, that's just my thoughts. Keep it real.

[Weaselman]

As a new member your thoughts are welcome. It cant just be the old schoolers banging on about things

[Hagarr]

Interesting post.

I have no objection to paying the fee's.

I do agree the site is changing,
some good members have left or backed off their input to a minimum.
I'd be more interested in why that was ?

Personaly, I used to be keen to promote this site, but the amount of racist,
political, sicko, and back stabbing bitching posts means that I really give it
some thought now, some of it is mildly entertaining but much of it does the
forum no favours, I like the lack of moderation on here, but some folk seem keen
to abuse it, but thats only my personal view.

Tony.

X3

Evolution is always a challenge to the unchallenged or unchallengeable!

Peoples lives and importance to what they do always changes constantly and no disrespect to Si but you would need to have a team of experts to try and keep the site operating to how public sentiment expects it to be run or the content allowable.

Facebook probably has taken away most of the decent discussion side of things that I can see.

If someone wants to (or is allowed to) rant white supremacist or Muslim is better dialogue, it's very difficult to keep the lid on.

Just look at the WASF, since Billywhizzes personal circumstances have changed the WASF section has dropped off substantially, IMO, although we have managed to keep in contact outside the site which is a great thing and many friendships have grown from this site.

Interesting times ahead for the site, but yes things are changing and for a good reason.

[Weaselman]

"Facebook probably has taken away most of the decent discussion side of things that I can see."

LIES!!!!!

[ozzy1100]

more like circle jeck lol
and im a face fart person as well what do that say ....

[Tony Nitrous]

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[Hagarr]

"Facebook probably has taken away most of the decent discussion side of things that I can see."

LIES!!!!!

Well I haven't seen any posts of Muslim liking or bashing or white supremacy on Farcebook!

We have certainly had our share on ASF!

Only my opinion that perhaps the "policies" are better controlled???

Whether you like or don't like that stuff "IT WILL DETRACT" from people who don't want any opinion either way and being labeled!

I came on this site for STREETFIGHTERS!!!

I'm sure there are many sites out there who cater for the others.

[K6Thou]

Well I haven't seen any posts of Muslim liking or bashing or white supremacy on Farcebook!

We have certainly had our share on ASF!

Only my opinion that perhaps the "policies" are better controlled???

Whether you like or don't like that stuff "IT WILL DETRACT" from people who don't want any opinion either way and being labeled!

I came on this site for STREETFIGHTERS!!!

I'm sure there are many sites out there who cater for the others.There are plenty but it's funny how the rooster seems to become the feather duster in certain company. ;)

[Hagarr]

There are plenty but it's funny how the rooster seems to become the feather duster in certain company. ;)

Apologies , must have missed something?

[kartras]

Well I haven't seen any posts of Muslim liking or bashing or white supremacy on Farcebook!

We have certainly had our share on ASF!

Only my opinion that perhaps the "policies" are better controlled???

Whether you like or don't like that stuff "IT WILL DETRACT" from people who don't want any opinion either way and being labeled!

I came on this site for STREETFIGHTERS!!!

I'm sure there are many sites out there who cater for the others.


Fully agree mate...some of the more recent topics could easily put new members off this site even if they didnt have to pay for the privilege...most people would not want to be associated with recent comments and as for advertisers I am sure they would distance themselves from recent topics on this site.

Its a pity really that some are so narrow minded in this day and age but I suppose they are allowed to speak their mind even if it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most.

[K6Thou]

Apologies , must have missed something?Nah just my cryptic way of saying that some people can be larger than life on some sites yet would be considered small time on other sites.......

Clear as mud. :p

[Hagarr]

Nah just my cryptic way of saying that some people can be larger than life on some sites yet would be considered small time on other sites.......

Clear as mud. :p

Yeah OK I get it, Wannabees basically!

Another aspect that shits me and has stopped me , FULL STOP, about this site has been the new aspect of uploading pics!

I am at a point in age and life where my head is that full of Software, Hardware, Firmware, Dropboxes, uploads, Downloads etc I just haven't been able to give a fuck about how to do this new uploading process images to the site.

I have many projects on the go that may interest others but just can't be fucked learning a new process, Farcebook ia piece of piss by the way, but I'm over it!

[Weaselman]

Well I haven't seen any posts of Muslim liking or bashing or white supremacy on Farcebook!

We have certainly had our share on ASF!

Only my opinion that perhaps the "policies" are better controlled???

Whether you like or don't like that stuff "IT WILL DETRACT" from people who don't want any opinion either way and being labeled!

I came on this site for STREETFIGHTERS!!!

I'm sure there are many sites out there who cater for the others.

I was actually taking the piss because Ive never seen decent discussion about anything on Shitebook. It wasn't a go at you
SOOOO What do we do? Whats a firm step 1?

[Hagarr]

I was actually taking the piss because Ive never seen decent discussion about anything on Shitebook. It wasn't a go at you


SOOOO What do we do? Whats a firm step 1?

No offence taken! Apologies if it appeared so :o

[Weaselman]

Well ok.

This is an open forum so we cant start vetting people who want to come and have a look fair enough.
But some of the shit on here is getting pointless. I think a pretty in depth cleaning of house is really in order to inject new life into ASF

Shit that doesnt have a place here is really getting out of hand and as much as I may get shot down for it pehaps the list of members needs to be whittled down. Paying or not, local, international who gives a toss.

[Azrael]

When did you last see a post from Papa Smurf?
Ozkat? Steve Burns? Dynomutt? Seen any build pics
from Russ's V-Max project? Des's 14's looking good but
It's posted up elsewhere not here, I could name many more.
I know to some top builds going on in AU and oversea's
but many of the guys are backing off from ASF.
Builders in AU that are active posters on US and UK sites
but not on here?

I wonder why?

Steves busy building gay boats for wealthy arabs haha

I agree, this place has turned to shit, too many cockheads talking about anything but bikes. i used to post everything i build, now i just cant be arsed. nobody seems interested in bikes anymore...

[Hagarr]

Steves busy building gay boats for wealthy arabs haha

I agree, this place has turned to shit, too many cockheads talking about anything but bikes. i used to post everything i build, now i just cant be arsed. nobody seems interested in bikes anymore...

You'd have to excuse the "Godfather" of Streetfighters a bit of leniency! :rolleyes:

[Weaselman]

"nobody seems interested in bikes anymore..."

Or riding them

[ozzy1100]

them lets leed by expample.......

and imo for events etc we to really look at some form of hierarchy or commity ?

[El_Hefty]

I was actually taking the piss because Ive never seen decent discussion about anything on Shitebook. It wasn't a go at you
SOOOO What do we do? Whats a firm step 1?

more topics on what the forum is about, bikes, less of these sorts of threads, as rarely are they productive. Their intent might be good but normally just have a depressing negative effect. we had one last week, about where are all the old posters etc they just breed the poor feeling, its like staring at your navel while the walls fall down

Apart from bike threads the 'off topic' threads should be restricted to the usual pic/vid/joke threads, fuck the racist rants off for one and lets get a little more 'creative'

[Weaselman]

That to a point does exist with the usuals who run the rides we know. (AFR, NFR ect)

But if you appoint a set group its falls to them alone to keep everyone happy. And as we have seen when a person goes ahead and takes the reigns they get shot down if it doesnt appeal to a few people. And who wants that? It becomes a thankless job then because you'll never keep everyone happy and fuck me some of em really can yell rather than trying to run things themselves.

We run into the armchair syndrome again.

Any committee or appointment of site I dont know... leaders? would have to be the sole domain of Si

Putting it to the masses would be a shit fight. The appointed people would need to be assessed on their ACTUAL contribution to ASF not the time spent as a member or the number of posts they have.

[BANDITROD]

i noticed a decline in bike build threads after des's bike got knocked off a few years back maybe it scared a few off ....i still come here cos its full of like minded people who love bikes and the threads you guys are refering to are usualy in the terrorist free zone if you dont like it dont fucking read it ...its simple really.. i know that people are having trouble with the new site but it is for the better IMO..........this happens every year at this time cos its too hot to be outside in the shed and we all start to go nuts if we dont have a bike together for riding in the nice weather so we turn on each other i have seen it time and time again its quite funny hahaha

[ozzy1100]

thing is we dont want to stop the freedom of people just to post ramdom shit....
past of what makes this place great is the wild west feel but now it looks more like where people come to try and look big.....
rules wont help, but there is a great core of very intresting people still here.
I say fuck them all, its up to us that care and fucking have the brains to know what the real deal is with our lifestyle.
I have always rode because its the only place my fucked up mind ever found peace, and i have always moded bikes cause its what I do and where I feel I fit in the world and has leed to finding like minded people that get me.
This site reps the real place in aus for people like me... we ride cause it is what we are not because its what we want to be.
So I say rise up show the lowest parts what it really should be done and not by telling them but just by doing and happy shareing. i know half the shit i make or post most dont get but Im doing for the people that do even if they dont post, someone somewhere might get what they need from it.
maybe we should start talking about some values or things the core would strive to be.

[Weaselman]

Agreed

[BANDITROD]

bring it fanta pants lol your never to old for a smacked bottom

[El_Hefty]

i like that ozzy well said

[ozzy1100]

That to a point does exist with the usuals who run the rides we know. (AFR, NFR ect)

But if you appoint a set group its falls to them alone to keep everyone happy. And as we have seen when a person goes ahead and takes the reigns they get shot down if it doesnt appeal to a few people. And who wants that? It becomes a thankless job then because you'll never keep everyone happy and fuck me some of em really can yell rather than trying to run things themselves.

We run into the armchair syndrome again.

Any committee or appointment of site I dont know... leaders? would have to be the sole domain of Si

Putting it to the masses would be a shit fight. The appointed people would need to be assessed on their ACTUAL contribution to ASF not the time spent as a member or the number of posts they have.

bery true my good man... its getting to the time that fuck the lowest common dom, we will never keep every one happy and yes contribution is the key and just cause some 1 is willing dont mean they should.

[Hagarr]

..........this happens every year at this time cos its too hot to be outside in the shed and we all start to go nuts if .............

Hey Rod I'm in the shed !!

Making Exhaust for the GSXR :p

[BANDITROD]

lol im inside under my air con

[RevHead]

Everyone on here is building a fighter ,Its simple ,Go to the shed get some captive shots and up date your threads ,No politics involved in that, When i joint in 2010 there were bike threads being posted every day,My 2 cents worth.

[Redmohawk]

Does welding engine mounts under the front porch count as a shed ?

[Weaselman]

I swapped my front headlight under a demountable gazebo...

[K6Thou]

Does welding engine mounts under the front porch count as a shed ?

Lol, I don't have a shed either but I just fitted some extractors to the young fellas Gemini under the house..... And people wonder why my build is taking for ever.....

[Redmohawk]

The shed's plural 3 in total at the house I'm living in. The "Main shed" single car unit for real bike work is full of crap , off to bendigo at 5 am tomorrow for a swap meet with a ute full of stuff to off load so more bike work can be done. Hence the work is currently slow. 4 bikes under the front porch doesnt make for good security , nothing seems to be going missing though maybe I have a rep around here lol

Pete's idea has merit , an update by most on there bikes and ideas for other projects would draw away from non bike related threads.

[Tony Nitrous]

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[Yella]

Yeah OK I get it, Wannabees basically!

Another aspect that shits me and has stopped me , FULL STOP, about this site has been the new aspect of uploading pics!

I am at a point in age and life where my head is that full of Software, Hardware, Firmware, Dropboxes, uploads, Downloads etc I just haven't been able to give a fuck about how to do this new uploading process images to the site.

I have many projects on the go that may interest others but just can't be fucked learning a new process, Farcebook ia piece of piss by the way, but I'm over it!

I just upload to facebook and link into the thread here best way have found

[Tony Nitrous]

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[Hagarr]

I just upload to facebook and link into the thread here best way have found

OK I'll try again!

(..........goes away muttering and spluttering under breath LOL!)

[Hagarr]

Hagarr, your combined ECU hacking / nitrous control was very interesting,
and with more performance junkies running Busa's and B-Kings it would
have been a real useful contribution to the forum.

Yeah I would have thought so to!

Yella has given me (and this thread) impetus to try again.

[Tony Nitrous]

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[CookyMon]

Well I'm new here.

I introduced myself and was suggested to me that I check out the AFR thread. What a bloody bitch fest that thread is. But I can see that the forum is just having a bad day soI'm off to throw some money on full membership and see how things go for a while.

I just hope nobody minds if I wear my customfighters.com t shirt to AFR... :D

Edit: money put where mouth is. I should put my ASF patch on my CF tee. ;)

[Weaselman]

No offence mate if you were coming to AFR I would have rather have found out in the AFR thread than on here since im the one compiling the list and bookings...

[EFE 1230]

Fuckin lol! how many of you now sit down to take a piss?

my memory of the last time this site had a shitload of hilarity that people rushed home to look at and participate in and everybody old and new had a fuckin ball with was the great "rep points drama" and what happened?

because of a few bitches whining no more rep points........

"oooh you can't do that waaaaaaaaaaah"

"mummy those men are being mean to me and that's not fair waaaaaaaah"

"if you don't stop I'll I'll tell on you waaaaaaaaah"

"oh noes we shouldn't behave like this what will people think"

and it all got stopped because certain people got sand in their vaginas.


that's why this site was so great before that because nobody gave a fuck!

say something stupid, post pics of yourself that made you look like an idiot and you got called on it for the dickhead you were and everyone had a fuckin good laugh at your expense and that was that.

in the "old days" if a newbie posted up that he's gunna rattle can his bike flat black and fit MX bars and a set of dominators, everybody was cool about it "no worries mate, welcome" now that sort of thing seems to be frowned upon, people suggest this mask or that light then if some poor cunt actually puts up pics of their 1st attempt at a fighter every man and his fuckin dog jumps at the chance to tell em the lights need to be lower or the seat angle isn't right or it needs different bars.


but nah that doesn't put people off this place does it?

it must be that ranting racist cunt!


and here it comes again

"that's not bike related waaaaaaaah!"

"you can't post that it's racist waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

"that shit drives away newbies waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

"what will people think of us when they see that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"


this place has gone from being like a real pub featuring regular live music to a fuckin metrosexual tavern with unisex bathrooms and the obligatory no smoking beer garden.


maybe it might be time to market the place to the "factory streetfighter" type owners (I think there's already few?) they seem to be nice wholesome characters that could give this place the "image" some people seem to want so much, think of all the advertisers that could be attracted here by the new "bolt on " crowd.



don't like non bike related topics?

then let the whingers have the non bike topic section of the forum removed, problem solved.


on a side note can any of you metrosexuals recommend a moisturising cream to restore the suppleness to the skin on my hands?

after polishing alloy with autosol for the last 2 days they've become rough and dry and I just don't know what to do!

[BANDITROD]

this should cheer you lot up hahaha http://lmgtfy.com/?q=banditrod+mankini

dont forget to click images there is even a pic of my hand and fucked up haha

[El_Hefty]

im choking on my breakfast

[Hagarr]

Fuckin lol! how many of you now sit down to take a piss?

my memory of the last time this site had a shitload of hilarity that people rushed home to look at and participate in and everybody old and new had a fuckin ball with was the great "rep points drama" and what happened?

because of a few bitches whining no more rep points........

"oooh you can't do that waaaaaaaaaaah"

"mummy those men are being mean to me and that's not fair waaaaaaaah"

"if you don't stop I'll I'll tell on you waaaaaaaaah"

"oh noes we shouldn't behave like this what will people think"

and it all got stopped because certain people got sand in their vaginas.


that's why this site was so great before that because nobody gave a fuck!

say something stupid, post pics of yourself that made you look like an idiot and you got called on it for the dickhead you were and everyone had a fuckin good laugh at your expense and that was that.

in the "old days" if a newbie posted up that he's gunna rattle can his bike flat black and fit MX bars and a set of dominators, everybody was cool about it "no worries mate, welcome" now that sort of thing seems to be frowned upon, people suggest this mask or that light then if some poor cunt actually puts up pics of their 1st attempt at a fighter every man and his fuckin dog jumps at the chance to tell em the lights need to be lower or the seat angle isn't right or it needs different bars.


but nah that doesn't put people off this place does it?

it must be that ranting racist cunt!


and here it comes again

"that's not bike related waaaaaaaah!"

"you can't post that it's racist waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

"that shit drives away newbies waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

"what will people think of us when they see that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"


this place has gone from being like a real pub featuring regular live music to a fuckin metrosexual tavern with unisex bathrooms and the obligatory no smoking beer garden.


maybe it might be time to market the place to the "factory streetfighter" type owners (I think there's already few?) they seem to be nice wholesome characters that could give this place the "image" some people seem to want so much, think of all the advertisers that could be attracted here by the new "bolt on " crowd.



don't like non bike related topics?

then let the whingers have the non bike topic section of the forum removed, problem solved.


on a side note can any of you metrosexuals recommend a moisturising cream to restore the suppleness to the skin on my hands?

after polishing alloy with autosol for the last 2 days they've become rough and dry and I just don't know what to do!

So Effie whats your point.

By the way I'm WHITE (Red actually and proud of it!)

I have sat back and looked at your comments and ....... yeah OK, but aren't you acting just as the point you are trying to make.

perhaps it is you who needs to stop being a dinosaur (by the way I'm a tyranasarus , whatever way its spelt) as well.

being able to accommodate both arguments is where it;s at IMO.


....... and yes I certainly squat to piss given a night of drugs and debauchery LOL!

[Tony Nitrous]

Edit:

[Redmohawk]

Why do you all feed the troll ?

[Mr Ed]

So, anyone got good dyno results from a 4-2 exhaust or am I gonna have to go 4-1?

[BillyWhizz888]

X3


Just look at the WASF, since Billywhizzes personal circumstances have changed the WASF section has dropped off substantially, IMO, although we have managed to keep in contact outside the site which is a great thing and many friendships have grown from this site.

Interesting times ahead for the site, but yes things are changing and for a good reason.

Now there's a red rag :cool:
But totally right since finding myself a partner I have many priorities that need attending :p and of course more bikes to service and ride, but I get to ride mainly during the week as I am always knocking walls out, building new fcukers donating to the Bunnings empire doing this n that etc etc
But its not all about one bloke leading the charge is it?, then again... it might be :confused:

we have a few ideas bouncing around at the moment and of course Bullfrogs anniversary is coming up , maybe we need to just push things a bit harder

As for the comments regarding this thread, all things change, that is the way of the world
forums are no different, people come and go, the crack is had, shit dished out and given back, laughs, sadness sometimes, its the way of the world...

Attracting new members is hard for all forums, they visit, dip their toes in and most move on, some stay, some linger and some like us ole twats just hang around watching and waiting for porn to get posted

Paying for membership, as already discussed many sites do it, sites don't run for nothing, so I am more than happy to send Si my 5c :rolleyes:

Now must away, the bracket is ready for paint................

[EFE 1230]

So Effie whats your point.

By the way I'm WHITE (Red actually and proud of it!)

I have sat back and looked at your comments and ....... yeah OK, but aren't you acting just as the point you are trying to make.

perhaps it is you who needs to stop being a dinosaur (by the way I'm a tyranasarus , whatever way its spelt) as well.

being able to accommodate both arguments is where it;s at IMO.


....... and yes I certainly squat to piss given a night of drugs and debauchery LOL!


I just post what I find interesting and don't give a fuck if people like it or not, just like I don't give a fuck what anyone else want's to post up even if it doesn't interest me or "offends" me.

just as I have done so since I joined and will continue to do so.

I don't stalk the people here who I think are dribbling idiots and fill their threads with crap just because they shit me for some reason.

[RevHead]

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[Cruisecontrol]

Fuckin lol! how many of you now sit down to take a piss?
my memory of the last time this site had a shitload of hilarity that people rushed home to look at and participate in and everybody old and new had a fuckin ball with was the great "rep points drama" and what happened?
because of a few bitches whining no more rep points........
"oooh you can't do that waaaaaaaaaaah"
"mummy those men are being mean to me and that's not fair waaaaaaaah"
"if you don't stop I'll I'll tell on you waaaaaaaaah"
"oh noes we shouldn't behave like this what will people think"
and it all got stopped because certain people got sand in their vaginas.
that's why this site was so great before that because nobody gave a fuck!
say something stupid, post pics of yourself that made you look like an idiot and you got called on it for the dickhead you were and everyone had a fuckin good laugh at your expense and that was that.
in the "old days" if a newbie posted up that he's gunna rattle can his bike flat black and fit MX bars and a set of dominators, everybody was cool about it "no worries mate, welcome" now that sort of thing seems to be frowned upon, people suggest this mask or that light then if some poor cunt actually puts up pics of their 1st attempt at a fighter every man and his fuckin dog jumps at the chance to tell em the lights need to be lower or the seat angle isn't right or it needs different bars.
but nah that doesn't put people off this place does it?
it must be that ranting racist cunt!
and here it comes again
"that's not bike related waaaaaaaah!"
"you can't post that it's racist waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

"that shit drives away newbies waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"
"what will people think of us when they see that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"
this place has gone from being like a real pub featuring regular live music to a fuckin metrosexual tavern with unisex bathrooms and the obligatory no smoking beer garden.
maybe it might be time to market the place to the "factory streetfighter" type owners (I think there's already few?) they seem to be nice wholesome characters that could give this place the "image" some people seem to want so much, think of all the advertisers that could be attracted here by the new "bolt on " crowd.
don't like non bike related topics?
then let the whingers have the non bike topic section of the forum removed, problem solved.
on a side note can any of you metrosexuals recommend a moisturising cream to restore the suppleness to the skin on my hands?
after polishing alloy with autosol for the last 2 days they've become rough and dry and I just don't know what to do!

I agree.
In the old days people said what they thought. You didn't like something and you said so.
Nowdays the roving bands of PC pussies have a cry, and just like a spoilt school kid, whine for somebody to fix it, or move it, or delete it so their virgin eyes are not tainted by someone elses opinion only to be followed by X2, well said! and various other pointless contributions.
If you don't agree, grow some balls, a brain or both and justify your opinion and ask them to do the same...

[stiffsimon]

Hey EFE,Avon skin so soft, it's great

[Hagarr]

I just post what I find interesting and don't give a fuck if people like it or not, just like I don't give a fuck what anyone else want's to post up even if it doesn't interest me or "offends" me.

just as I have done so since I joined and will continue to do so.

I don't stalk the people here who I think are dribbling idiots and fill their threads with crap just because they shit me for some reason.

But don't you get itt?

We know your views who you are and what you appear to represent, personally i don;t give a flying fuck either way, but don't you feel you are contributing to the problem, sure make your point but get over it we ALL have heard your views, now what Bike builds do you have on the go!

I'd be interested your style, Maltese Cross harleys LOL!

[Hagarr]

I agree.
In the old days people said what they thought. You didn't like something and you said so.
Nowdays the roving bands of PC pussies have a cry, and just like a spoilt school kid, whine for somebody to fix it, or move it, or delete it so their virgin eyes are not tainted by someone elses opinion only to be followed by X2, well said! and various other pointless contributions.
If you don't agree, grow some balls, a brain or both and justify your opinion and ask them to do the same...

Who are the PC pussies?

Who's whining , just because you perhaps don't like someone elses opinion doesn't make them a PC Pussy.

What bike builds have you got under way Oldfool!

[Cruisecontrol]

Who are the PC pussies?

Who's whining , just because you perhaps don't like someone elses opinion doesn't make them a PC Pussy.

What bike builds have you got under way Oldfool!

I didn't say not liking an opinion makes you a pussy. I said crying about it and asking someone else to make it go away makes you a pussy.

[Jinx]

Have to agree, not a lot of new stuff being posted but there's shitloads of interesting bike info on the web that we could post. It doesn't have to be about your build. If its bike related lets see it, if you dont like it dont flame them for it.

[Yella]

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[JDinOZ]

Yeah... So... Being still a new-ish member I have to say, i still like the site, I dont mind paying, def worth it for me, have alook pretty much everyday... I always laugh at the shit that gets put on here, especially in terrorist free section, never bothers me.. (even though some people might have some issues haha)

I did notice that not as many people are joining as when I first came in, but that could be due to many factors y'know.

On a site note what happened to gitzey, I always relied on him to post up an old thread or bike gallery thing from the blue.

I thoroughly enjoy threads like Surts homemade, artistic, genius creation. I enjoy Pete's busa thread and a whole bunch of other build threads and random shit on here.. I agree some people could prolly post up more pics of their bikes etc.

I for one never really posted my Street triple R with mask and bits and pieces because its not a real homemade fighter. bound to invite flaming on here. Doesn't mean I don't like and admire all the other shit.

Matty's r1 is an inspiration for me as well as I am prolly buying an r1 on monday and try to not to imitate but at least get some advice of him and add my own touch and try to create my own tail etc. ask for advice on paining and shit.

Those questions occurred all the time when i first joined, but they come after people buy/acquire (same thing) something and since lately the economy has been rough on most people that might have contributed to a slow down as well.

Lastly I agree that people need to stop fkn harassing each other over every little thing, Pete's AFR idea was good but not practical but hey at least he cared enough to try and set smtng up..

One other last thing lol I always want to come on afr trips etc for the last few years but everytime work gets in the way.. fkn money is a cunt. on that note, some more laphroaig single malt at $60 a bottle will go down well hehe

[Hagarr]

Bloody hell Yella piss off !

Maybe I have sorted though.

[BANDITROD]

lol
Bloody hell Yella piss off !

Maybe I have sorted though.

[hyofighter]

right i wasnt going to contribute to this thread as it makes me fucken wild but here goes :

get off the fucking keyboard get outside work on/start/ride/look at your fucking bike , whats wrong with this site is entirely in this thread if ya wanna winge and attention seek start a facebook account , if ya wanna ride , build bikes , and talk streetfighter fucken get to it on here

[Large]

Some valid points guys..... lets build a bridge and get over it.

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[wackyrider]

Damn you Large!!!!

[Jinx]

Fuckin unbelievable large. :D

[RevHead]

bloody hell rich!bwahahaha

[sen]

I don't have net at the moment (haven't had for nearly 2 months, since we moved house and they fucked the fiber connections at the new build)... but when i'm back, one of the jobs i've taken on for Si is to fix the old hosting server and bring back all the attachments from the old site. I know pictures are a large reason of why people come here, so hopefully that will drag in some new members who are googling for pictures.

That's my 2c to try make shit better around here.

My current bike isn't a fighter, so haven't really been posting the pics/build that Luke is doing for me.

It has definitely slowed down here though. Used to be overwhelming to visit every day and try ready everything, now I come on once a week from my phone and there's only a few pages of new posts.

[stiffsimon]

I'm keen to post pics of my build but there's nothing much new on it at the moment

[Iceman]

I used to live here. When I wasn't in the shed or on my bike I was here. Now I couldn't even be bothered reading this whole thread. I still check in nearly everyday, but I don't say much anymore. I have met some incredible people through this forum and formed life long friendships, I've also been involved in my fair share of slinging and receiving shit.

I haven't been to any of the events recently, and rarely see any of my ASF mates. But I can say, that when I slip on one of my once black, but now faded grey ASF shirts, I look back on a great time in my life and have fond memories of what we were. I guess it's a matter of moving with the times or getting left behind. Looks like it's a repeat of AFR 2006 and I'm sitting well behind the group again.....

[sharky]

That pretty well sums it up for me Clint.....still keep in touch with the older members but my life has moved .

[ozzy1100]

you looked like you were stuck in the 80's last night russ lol btw be thankfull you dont have face fart and can see the pics smurf put upof us lol

[rod185651]

I used to live here. When I wasn't in the shed or on my bike I was here. Now I couldn't even be bothered reading this whole thread. I still check in nearly everyday, but I don't say much anymore. I have met some incredible people through this forum and formed life long friendships, I've also been involved in my fair share of slinging and receiving shit.

I haven't been to any of the events recently, and rarely see any of my ASF mates. But I can say, that when I slip on one of my once black, but now faded grey ASF shirts, I look back on a great time in my life and have fond memories of what we were. I guess it's a matter of moving with the times or getting left behind. Looks like it's a repeat of AFR 2006 and I'm sitting well behind the group again.....


That pretty well sums it up for me Clint.....still keep in touch with the older members but my life has moved .

Which means you two should not be moderators any more

[oldskool]

Its strange even an old member cant seem to give away a members prize.

[sharky]

Take it away then...I'm not fussed....

[rod185651]

Take it away then...I'm not fussed....

Mate I'm not having a dig at you or Clint but being a moderator is not a privilege, its a responsibility. If you are not doing the job maybe it is time to step down.

[Iceman]

Maybe you're right Rod. And if there was a problem with the way I have exercise my moderator's "powers" I'm sure that privilege would be taken away from me. As I mentioned, I still check in nearly every day so I am still available to clear up any thing I see to be a problem.

[Jockney Rebel]

my 2 bob
id rather meet you lot than post on here
i must say ive been away for a bit mainly due to the business and other personal stuff but ive possibly met more of the original members than most on here due to my traveling and the one thing that is common amongst all of you
[you know who you are ]is the loyalty and sheer mateship extended....so lets not get all despondant were still awesome .even you Clint lol :cool:

[BANDITROD]

well said old boy

[Jockney Rebel]

..id just like to add that this is the purpose of this site.......... its just a vehicle to get us all involved ..if anyone on here can do better ..go ahead ill subscribe to that one too ...
to the new guys on here ......its organised chaos but it works and the fact that we can say anything on here with only the prospect of rebuttals from our peers is the way it should be in my opinion [which by the way is worth about the same as a samosa from a dodgy Calcutta takeaway }

[fimpBIKES]

frankly ive got the shits with all the racist bullshit on here

put up bike builts, or bike questions
organise runs and meet some great blokes for sure!

but if you want to tell me about how muslims still have 50% monkey dna and how pooftas love it when you ram your twin barrels up and pull the trigger than fuck-off to your kkk messageboard


bikes only i say, fuck off all the terrorist free shit
there are plenty of dark corners of the net where you racist homophobic cunts can hang out
its a motorcycle forum FFS!!!

[KATO ZX7]

Wow, i havent missed much either then have i?
I visit this site hardly ever.

The friends i have met thru here i still class as good friends, but i would rather deal with you on a face to face basis. Theres been way to much bitching and not enough riding going on.When i joined up over 5yr ago now, we we'r always catching up for a blat somewhere or excitedly looking forward to the next big bash so we could meet our brothers and sisters from interstate.

My life has also changed, it happens to every body, events and rides are harder to make but i do at least try.
And you dont see me on here saying im better than anybody else (yes my bike is matt black lol) or bitching about people i dont even know.

my 3 cents

[ozzy1100]

kato... how the fuck are you lol

[Azrael]

Go kato haha, yeah bring back the good old days when destroying garage doors with family cars was normal acceptable behaviour, that was worth logging on for..