bandit 1200

[diovol]

Hey guys so i finally got my 1200 motor in an 1100 frame now i have a set of mikuni flatslide out of a 750 lying around but they dont fit, is there any spacer that you can buy to make them fit and if not will the 1200 carbs fit in the motor without any clearance issues in the frame, remember the frame is a 1990 1100.
Thanks

[Benz]

1200 motor is the same size as 1100, 38mm cv's will fit,even with the original airbox if you have that...it's tight, but I did it in 750 frame, you should have no probs with 1100 You may have to take the mounting boots off a 750 to get the larger carbs to fit the bandit motor. They simply swap over.

[diovol]

Ok sorry but im confused a bit what carbs swap over to the bandit motor? the carbs i have now are for an watercooled 750, i want to know if i can make them fit or if i need to use the 1200 carbs and will the interfer with the frame,

Sorry about confusion.

[Benz]

Clearance for the frame shouldn't be an issue, as the motors are the same size. There might be issues with the inlet rubbers being too small to accept the larger? bores on the 750's flatslides. You take the ones that mounted the carbs to the 750 motor, and put them on the 1200 lump, and you're in business. Actually , your 1100 motor should have 40mm/41mm? rubbers [again from memory, which frankly...sucks!]so they should slot in nicely. What size are the flatslides? Are they off some later model watercooled 750 engine? If they are, you may find the carbs are not spaced the same,[camchain is not in the centre of the engine] and you're in for a bit of pain........I believe all oilcooled/watercooled carbs [up to about '96 I think, don't quote me....]can be fitted to any oilcooled engine, with the correct inlet rubber boots.
You can fit 1100 lump to 750 frame, but there are clearance issues when you try to take the cam cover off in frame, as the 1100 motor is about 10mm taller, but you are using 1100 frame, so all should be good, as Suzuki have allowed more clearance on the 1100 frame.
Hope this helps

[Deano]

water cooled carbs are spaced differently on the outer 2 cyl. they are same spacing on centre 2

weather they will fit will degend on the inlet rubbers. they will be 2 big to fit in your bandit rubbers and the spacing is also wrong.

if you get the 1100 rubbers i think you will also have a step as the rubbers join to the head. and if you use 2 no2 rubbers and 2 no3 rubbers the watercooled carbs will fit as the spacing will change on the outer 2 cylinders

use the standard bandit carbs. unless you are the type of person that gets off on big numbers then 36mm carbs on that motor will be great and any benefit having 38mm carbs will be out weighed by the amount of rooting around trying to get them to fit.

your 36mm carbs will give you great torque for road riding and the bigger carbs will put the power further up the rev range better if you are riding a dyno or track days

[Benz]

Thanks Deano, I knew someone would correct me if I fucked up!![^]
I changed from 36's to 38's on my 1100, , and immediately noticed less bottom end,but there was more to be had up top. The 36's were generally smoother too.;)

[diovol]

thanks

[diovol]

1 more thing i have a chance to buy a set of carbs for an 2003 bandit 1200, should they fit into my 97 bandit

[Deano]

quote:Originally posted by diovol

1 more thing i have a chance to buy a set of carbs for an 2003 bandit 1200, should they fit into my 97 bandit


yes.

gotta remember benz that the gsxr has cams designed more for top end and the bandit has more midrange cams. may not have the same effect on the bandit motor but would be intrested to no if somone has tried it

[chopaweeza]

I did the conversion on my last Bindit . Used a set of cams and ignition from an L model I think and had the carbs dyno'ed to get the jetting right. I found it bogged down around town more but the engine response over 80kph was very impressive. I ended up swapping the cams back over(but kept the ignition) as I mostly rode in the city at legal speeds and the loss of mid range made selection of gears more critical. I briefly tried the carby swap as well(got the package off ebay) but quickly swapped back to re-jetted stock carbs instead . With the Bandit I found the best combo was a K&N filter in a stock box, replacement ignition(I used a GSXR) and re-jetted stock carbs gave me the best compromise & the best all round performance.

[diovol]

thanks guys