Kiwi's new project "PROJECT NEW/OLDSKOOL"

[Dynomutt]

Lose the pillion part of the seat and shunt the tailpiece forwards, if you look in the Zed specific gallery there's a satin black ally framed spondon replica Zed with Z1R tank, and a single seat with the J series tailpiece, K series radial front end, monoshocked etc etc. That look works well giving it the classic musclebike look but more squat.

[kiwi kdx]

I think i know the bike ur talking about... Off to find it now.

[ozzy1100]

glad u staying with the gpz tail mate done right they just work

[kiwi kdx]

Yeah mate I don't know what I was thinking! All that other shit was way to modern!!!

I had a bit of a play with the linkage today, trying to figure out if it will work with YAMMYS new system where the dogbone bolts to the swinger not the frame:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120717_112627.jpg

I'm sure with some playing it will be fine.

And thought I'd throw the forks in place just to keep me inspired:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120717_113506.jpg

When you look at the distance between the back wheel and the frame, u can see how much the wheel base will be lengthened, so the tail may not need a chop......

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/d42ede68.jpg

[MattyDucati]

I like to do original stuff but what your building makes me want to copy ya! Fuckin ace lookin

[kiwi kdx]

Thanks Matt, I'm hoping this one will be something special.

[LKC73]

Its going to look nuts Kiwi. I hope you can get it all sorted.

[kiwi kdx]

yeah it'l get sorted, i have heaps of Gaffa tape......

[kiwi kdx]

rite, so i was having a chat to Travis yesterday about my swingarm piviot, sent him through the size i would need and the frame boss size.
next thing i get a message "like this" fuken top bloke(thanks again mate)
all i need to do is weld a plate on the end that bolts to the ST frame where the old shaftie swingarm piviot pins use to bolt in.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/piviot.jpg

[nick76]

rite, so i was having a chat to Travis yesterday about my swingarm piviot, sent him through the size i would need and the frame boss size.
next thing i get a message "like this" fuken top bloke(thanks again mate)

So when is Travis gonna start his own thread bout turning spacers and axles we need??
I'll need some little bushes turned up soon...i never know who to ask....and shops dont want to do little bits and peices some of us on here need!!

Other than that....it's all lookin good so far!!

[Jed]

This is looking real sweet. best part of this thread is that your doing it in your kitchen. Love it.

Might be a good challenge for the Forum. Get a pic of your bike in the kitchen - without getting a divorce :)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120717_113506.jpg

[kiwi kdx]

nick - yeah its a pain in the ass, real hard to find people to do the small stuff.

trav - a may have opened up a can of worms here.........

and jed - fuk yeah in going to go start thet thread rite now!!!! (its easy for me to say, iv'e already got away with it!

[kiwi kdx]

DONE!

photo challange:
(http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=21)
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/showthread.php?24138-Photo-challange-quot-Get-ur-bike-in-the-kitchen-quot&p=363249#post363249

[xa-mont]

well if anyone wants anything made up, just send me a PM and i'm sure we can sort something out. I need cashies to fund my motorbike spending :D

[nick76]

xa-mont.......you have PM

[kiwi kdx]

carefull nick.... he's a funny cunt too! everyone at work knew exactlly who it was for!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120723_172327.jpg

[xa-mont]

they must have done that at the post office... :confused: hehehe

[BANDITROD]

hahahahahahahahahahahaha good one trav

[kiwi kdx]

Picked up my seat today, I thought I was picking up a standard B1 seat, so you can imagine how fuken happy
I was when the guy pulled this off his top shelf.....
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120724_150921.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120724_150849.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120724_150856.jpg

$35 bucks thanks for coming!

The foam is sweet so it just needs to be re covered.
I'm obviously doing a Eddie paint job, so should I replace the red portion of the seat with green or keep it all black?

[stiffsimon]

Give Kev,the seat guru, a call and see what he reckons with his multitude of different seat covering material. But whatever colour you decide I think it would look so much better if you got GSX sewn into it ��

[kiwi kdx]

Yeah his name did pop into mind, but is he not up north(Sydney)???

Haha no way buddy, maybe I'll have a pic of my wheels stitched into it!

[kiwi kdx]

I'm spending more time photoshopping this bike that actually working on it....
Did one in Eddie's paint scheme

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/eddieconcept1.jpg

[MattyDucati]

looks good, ive always liked them colours.

[whale]

2073

[kiwi kdx]

Mmmmmmmm who owns that puppy?

[whale]

Dont know mate, its just a random pic I found on the net. I kept it cos its so sweet

[ALBI]

ill tell you wat mate about 10 years ago when i was living in windsor i had an z500 that i swapped for a rolling z1000a1 77 model ,that i was going to build as an goose bike replica from a dude in campbelltown, he had a smick z900 with a billet franks racing triple set and i think it was set up as a fighter it had a white frame and yamah wheels ?? it was in streetbike bike mag then as a build in progress,wish i kept those old mags,you would have loved that bike it was sweet.

[kiwi kdx]

yeah i do like the look of the streetfighters that came out of the 80's and 90's

[Dynomutt]

The Eddie Lawson paintscheme is a classic for the old Kawasakis. I think it's one of the most iconic colour schemes that has been used over the years, and is my personal favourite. Hence my own bike being done in the same scheme.

[kiwi kdx]

That thing is fuken hot mate!!!!!!!

Picked up my bodywork today, everything will need new chassis tabs but it all fits the ST frame very well, I cut the tank pins down 5mm each and thats perfect, they look to be it he rite place but I won't know till I get my new stem bearings and get the triples on.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120731_145454.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120731_145556.jpg

And that fuken sexy Retro tail sticker has me rethinking my paint................

[ALBI]

fish scales on the covers hmm

[xa-mont]

that looks fucking sick with that tail exactly where it is... and i kinda like that decal too... maybe do something like that with more Kwaka-esque colours.

[kiwi kdx]

Fish scales????

Trav, that's what I was thinking mate!

[kiwi kdx]

My head stem bearings turned up yesterday and were Fukien wrong!!!!
But I used the top one to hold the stem in place so t cold look at the bike with The bodywork on it.
The tail is I the same spot as my last pick, I think it might be a tad too short...
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120807_130553.jpg

I reckon this is more betterer.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120807_131117.jpg

[robmac]

Tail on the first one for me mate. Second one makes it look too long and low and loses the purposeful stance.

[Gix11]

Yea, first one for sure. Second one has turned it into a barge.

[ozzy1100]

imho 1st one with the whole bike at a steeper stance

[kiwi kdx]

Alrite pic number 1 it is.
And i agree the back needs to be jacked up!

[wackyrider]

That's looking good bud. Did you get your triples sorted in the end as I never heard back from you

[RevHead]

that looks phatt as.

[LKC73]

Very nice build Kiwi!

[kiwi kdx]

thanks guys, progress is painfully slow without a shed and bubs is getting verry close so the build may go quiet for a bit
but dont worry ill keep you all updated.

Jules, thanks mate, i got them sorted, snuck into my works service center and used there press when no one was looking.....

[kiwi kdx]

I finally got some stem bearings this week, coffee table makes a good bike bench.....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120904_130723.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120904_130737.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120904_130757.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120904_130749.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20120904_132826.jpg

[nemo]

Dammit man! Clean up that frame!!

[kiwi kdx]

Haha! Mate the frame needs bracing, a monoshock mount and de-cluttering...
Then a sandblast and a powdercoat!!!!

[kiwi kdx]

not much happening on the build at the moment due to this little fella getting all of my attention...
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121019_134019.jpg

but i am chasing a Mallory sprint magneto like the one below, i know they are not great for the road and have no advance or retard, but i want to play with an adjustable cam gear and see what i can do...

and they look fuken awesome!!!!!!!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/DSCN0692_zps2aa50f6d.jpg

[ozzy1100]

concrats on the little one
and long live old skool air cooled...............

[BANDITROD]

congrats jarrod

[Redmohawk]

Congrats

[ozzy1100]

btw mags are kool but there is a reason that every one uses dyna's on these motors :-)

[kiwi kdx]

Cheers guys.
Ozzy the more i look into them the more i am finding that out mate
It sux coz they look so dam cool.

[MattyDucati]

Congrats Bloke!

[xa-mont]

grats on the little'n Jarrod

[ozzy1100]

i might know a very well known drag racing motor builder doing some thing tricky with the mag houseing but diff internals :-)

[xa-mont]

how about just put a super charger on... would look similar and be heaps coolerere!

[ozzy1100]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[wackyrider]

Congrats mate

[kiwi kdx]

thanks fella's, life is prety good rite now!

i am still collecting parts tho, just done a deal with Turbokat for some ZX9 rearsets and looking at these for a cheap set of levers:
http://www.thirdgear.com.au/products/Universal-Levers-for-22mm-Handle-Bar.html

[hyofighter]

congrats on the little one , future asf member right there

[geesexar]

congrats on the bike...i mean baby..lol...good job on both mate

[Bob]

Congrats on the little fella mate.

[kiwi kdx]

got a dirt cheap set of bars yesterday, they even fit in with my idea of going for an all alloy front end,
no paint on the triples, lower fork legs or calipers and stripped anodising on the fork tubes.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/KGrHqFHJBsFCESydJBQhe4IGbg60_12.jpg

[kiwi kdx]

ok so only small bits of progress thees days....

been working on the rearsets i got off turbo, he's an ok bloke even if hes not my friend anymore coz i told him how gay 4 stroke dirt bikes are.....:p

got some Proteck pegs on:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121119_123142.jpg

master cylinder and brake switch turned up too, just waiting on a CNC gear lever then ill magiclly make then all black.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121119_124520.jpg

[TurboKat]

I see you're slowly waking up to yourself... there's hope for our friendship yet.

[kiwi kdx]

haha good to know mate.... i rekon i mite be able to live with one of those old AG bikes on the sealed stuff....

[kiwi kdx]

gear lever turned up today, so i threw that on and its a tad too wide...
when i tighten up the foot peg bolt it clamps the lever solid, so ill have to take to it with a file when i get a chance.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121122_101353.jpg

[kiwi kdx]

Ok so a bit bigger progress today, I now have a Z1000 J engine!

This is what $300AUDcan buy you, not bad when the only other engines I can find are a bottom end for $999
And one for $1200 condition unknown....


So I got a set of MIKUNI carbies
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133134-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133126.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133653.jpg

And the engine with no broken fins!!!!!!!!!!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133456-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133211.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133249.jpg

Mmmmm power........
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121125_133412.jpg

I also got the coils and was supposed to get the loom but the dickhead chucked it, so I said to throw in he tank( with taps and sender unit and let's call it even! Done deal....... Ha what a fucken idiot!!!!!!!

[kiwi kdx]

Just been doing a bit of internet surfing as in my last pic of the barrels
You will see "1.089L" now would that not make this a Z1000 R engine???

[EVLZX]

It's not an 1100?

[ozzy1100]

No broken fins is a big bonus
I just got a uni track 1100 about 80% (nothing above barels and in parts)
For not much less than that and we still have to weld some fins
but I really only wanted it for the zx gear box and oil pump
They really are one of the best looking motors

[EFE 1230]

nice score!

J model donk same as the US police "KZ" easy for parts and if you keep it stock will be cheap(ish) to rebuild.

[kiwi kdx]

Im really not sure now i know the Z1000R was 1089cc

But then the US modle kz1100 was also 1089 and 1015.

There is an old fella at work who drags zeds and im taking it to work
Tomorow to steam clean anyway im sure hell know.

[EFE 1230]

could be wrong but I think the Z1000R (Eddie Lawson rep) had an all black motor, the garden variety J model had the bare alloy ends on the rocker cover and the ignition cover fins like yours.

the only 1100 model we got (before GPZ1100B1) was a shaft drive, anyway your not doing a resto are you??

$300 bucks is a bargain so quit your whining!

[kiwi kdx]

Well the bodywork on this bike was GPZ1100 B1 but I have also seen the same bodywork referred to as a Z1000j... So that's why I'm getting so confused....

No I'm not doing a resto, I'm sure when I open it up all will be explained...

[stiffsimon]

Nice one mate, good find and a bargain no matter what size the engine is. Having said that though you'll need to make it bigger as it only has 8 valves,ahem. If you want and when you're ready I can ulrasonic clean your carbs for you.
Oh and by the way Linton you're correct , the old Z motors are one of the best looking but but THE BEST looking motor is the GSX 11.......................innit :)

[EFE 1230]

you can go here http://www.zpower.com.au/catalog/index.php and check the engine no.

click "kawasaki motor parts" top left corner and follow your engine number to the truth

hey simon, funny how suzuki could only beat the immortal Z900 by adding those 8 EXTRA valves eh?............

[kiwi kdx]

Haha wil this debate ever die???

Simon that would be awesome! have you got your own cleaner?

[ozzy1100]

See u on the road scrag......
And funny how some of the fastest drag bikes are still 8 valve
you one eyed suzi freak Simon :-)

[EFE 1230]

And funny how some of the fastest drag bikes are still 8 valve

NHRA Pro-Stock bike is 2 valve for 4cyl and v-twin motors in 2013

looks like the true KING could return to claim the crown............

[ozzy1100]

Funny what over 700 tho lift with do at 14k rpm lol
Still amaze me how little of the both suzi and kwaka
motors are left but how close in design to the base motors they are

[EFE 1230]

billet heads with chevy V8 sized valves will do that ......lol

[ozzy1100]

They are flash bit of kit I will say..........

[kiwi kdx]

ok so i have spoken to the man who know's all things Kawasaki ( Peter Frasca of Just Kwakas)
and he has I.D'd it as a GPZ1100 B1 engine with a Z1000 ST ignition cover and
J series carbs!
$300 DAM well spent i feel!

[kiwi kdx]

so i couldn't resist popping the cam cover off to have i look......
first was the smell of beautiful fresh oil!!! bonus!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121126_171449.jpg

then i gazed upon beautiful unmarked cam lobes.....
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121126_171142.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121126_171132.jpg

cam gears with virtually no wear..... has this puppy been apart already?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121126_171347.jpg

and Z1000 cams? or are 1000 and 1100 cams the same?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg173/d21terrano/20121126_171205.jpg

[EFE 1230]

drop the sump and check for bits of cam chain guides/metal, also screen on oil pump will usually have bits of silicone stuck on it if it's copped a rebuild

if it's all clean and your on a budget I would leave it as is until you can start the fucker up and check for smoke/rattles

$300???...................CUNT!

[ozzy1100]

B1 means 17 mm wrist pins still a shit hot motor :-)

[K6Thou]

Nice score mate !! Does anyone know if the cam timing with these is as bad as the KZ 750's ?

[kiwi kdx]

I have no idea this will be by first big air cooled Kwaka they seem pretty simple....
Famous last words.

[EFE 1230]

I have no idea this will be by first big air cooled Kwaka they seem pretty simple....
Famous last words.

yes very simple and relatively cheap to rebuild.............until you want HP

what started out as a mild mota on my ZED went off the rails a bit due to a few deals on parts.........

a ported (flows 91cfm) GPZ1100 B1 head with roller cam chain conversion, new (oversize) valves/guides/seats $1800
new egay special 1134 MTC piston kit/sleeves in ready to use barrel $600 with freight
billet .470 lift cams new never used $400
Kibblewhite shim under bucket set up to suit cams $380
38mm Mikuni flatslides near new $400

then the head needed to be machined for cam clearance, inlet ports matched to inlet rubbers then bench assembled to check valve interference/clearances

then the were pistons were machined for circlips, lightened and re-balanced

add in the black heat coating on cases/barrel/head/rocker cover so it looks like the Z1 mota

had crank runout checked then welded, got a low mileage (was like new) complete gearbox/clutch basket from states

add in all the sundries like gasket/seals/rubbers/guides ect and you could have a nice shiny "INSERT LATE MODEL SPORT BIKE HERE"

my mota is ready for final assembly just sorting out all the ancillaries so it can all be put together to go in the frame

now need to start on painting/detailing/putting together the rolling chassis................

[kiwi kdx]

Mate thats gonna be one sweet engine!

I have spare cases comming for mine so for now ill paint them up
Then swap everything over probablly throw in new mains weld the crank while its out
And rings too depending on the comp test.

Once ive had the bike running and on the road for a while
Im thinking i may take advantage of the direct injection ports in the
GPZ head......... YES.......Turbo.......

[ozzy1100]

if the bearings are ok on crank and you dont have to press apart i wouldnt bother with the cash to weld at power levels u going to go for
mine isnt far from efe's- ported and reshaped combuston cambers in a 1100st head with over size vlaves etc etc etc ,1230 mtc
kit and depending on what cr and cam specks we end up useing will hit between 135 and 150 rwhp (prob closer to 135)
even at this combo(light weight magnisn z9 raceing clutch and mtc plates with up 2 extra 4 so plates on a back cut gear box)
i wont be welding the crank but i was lucky and dont need to press apart so no weld. no need to weld just for strenght at power levels u what to go what kills them from what i am told is slicks.........

as for turbo save yr self the hassel and use the later tb's and keep those blanks for yr wet nos system :-0

[ozzy1100]

and efe u so right when you say hp cost money on these motors :-)
but 30 + yrs of drag raceing means you and i get a storming motor that will live for ever lol
mine will prob have the 38 or 40 rs carbs and for easy just a dyna 2000

[EFE 1230]

the bloke doing my mota had his 1075 Z1-A (which he purchased BRAND NEW!) on his dyno last week, little cams, stock vavle size in a Z9 ported head, 26mm Z1 carbs with k&n pods with a 4-1 kerker and it made 97 rwhp

this is it with the stock exhaust

29642963

[kiwi kdx]

Oh if big ends are ok I won't worry, I know these cranks are bulletproof!

Ozzy I like your idea, those ports are just begging to be used.....

EFE I cant see the pics in your build???? Are they still there?

[EFE 1230]

nah mate, my build threads are fucked with all the pics missing and I lost all my saved pics when my last laptop shit itself.

gunna have to start another one.

[ozzy1100]

i think most of the time if u need to change anything on the crank its to do with side lash ?
but end of day look into it i have nothing agaisnt welding them and if u pull them apart they have to be welded but if rest is k i wouldnt weld for the sake of it but depends on what yr motor builder has found best in past, myself i was just happy to save the cash for things like new bucket and shims in the head

btw dont bother with the old cb900 starter trick with these donks, there are brand new high output after market starters for these motors in the states i think mine is costing under $250 and for something that i have it told will spin a high comp 1560cc motor if the wireing is correct I dont think thats bad value

[ozzy1100]

efe you and I might have varing diffrences in some of our polictical and soical views
but any man that loves old sckool kwaka gear cant be all that bad :-)

[EFE 1230]

here's a few pick just for you mate!

pipe is a $50 Kerker that I want to do in old skool sprayed aluminium white

marzocchi came off Sickboy's Rickman (30mm taller than stock) swapped for bourbon

swingarn is underbraced and frame braced at neck/top tube and between front engine mounts

everything that bolts to it has been polished or chromed and that's genuine gold plated acorn bolts for all the engine covers

paint job will be a stockie (not sure what one) on tank with a 70's style mural on top/stock on ducktail then colour matched "rising sun" on each side cover

[stiffsimon]

Can't wait to see pics of all these projects developing and finished. They all sound awesome.Despite other comments I might have made I do actually llike the old Z's indeed a certain Gpz 1100 B1 still has a special place in my head.
It looks like you got a fucking bargain there with that engine.
For my part I've always had the approach of doing it as best as I can do it rather than doing it quickly(although these aren't mutually exclusive) and as such I'd be looking at hi lift cams, big bore, big valves, flowed and ported head, big carbs, oil cooler and electronic ignition. For me that's more in line with Oldskool tuning rather that putting a Turbo on it and I absolutely agree with Linton Wet NOS single hit 70 BHP kit.

[ozzy1100]

mmnnn dont forget the progressive controller and tune your ramp of hit drooooollllllll
a waste on the street ( at min no bottle on bike and the need for flush etc) for only a few runs at track prob kills it
but cool as fuck.....