Revheads Busa

[RevHead]

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Sen being the great bloke that he is sold me his 99 gen 1 busa ,ive never ridden a hayabusa,only chased quiet a few.after chasing Tex O GRADY ,then MONO,I made the hard choice to sell my gsxr1100 ,which id owned for 4 years now,and pretty much built from great ideas from a lot of great blokes here on ASF,So now its time to start a new build thread,parts are on order. so let the good times begin.:D

[xa-mont]

So what's the plan with this one Pete?

[Tony Nitrous]

Copper / Bronze 99's are getting collectable.

I'd like one.

Not much changed on the Gen1's, the ECU's got better
and the subframes changed from alloy (a few cracked) to steel.

99/2000 models arent speed restricted.

Down fall on the Gen1's for me, are the 6-pots.
Good fluid, pads and hoses make them average.

Rad guards are worth having. I've damaged two
rads and my guards are getting dented to f#ck.

[RevHead]

ive been thinking of k8,9 tail as i can get a custom subframe to suit from the states,plus ive bought a full titanium exhaust1445144614471448144914501451145214531454

[Tony Nitrous]

The seppo GSXR tail conversion I saw used a stock GSXR subframe.
What you bought were the adapter plates to fit it. Not cheap as
they only sold the as a kit with the Corbin seat as neither the Busa
or the GSXR seat would fit. Been done several times, someone has
done it on this forum too, but i think it was without the kit. DIY.

[El_Hefty]

Copper / Bronze 99's are getting collectable.

I'd like one.



me too this was very tempting and took all my power to not buy and ill say it on this fora:p

almost criminal to modify...

[Tony Nitrous]

almost criminal to modify...

Yeah, I thought about it too.

I have a brand new unused factory screen,
a brand new unused pair of original can's.

Just needs a seat hump, as that one has been cut so they can
leave the grab rail on with the hump. Im not a fan of that.

Mine was a light damaged 02. I'd have left a clean 99 alone.

[RevHead]

dont have a fit guys, im going to cut it up,

[Tony Nitrous]

Bugger!

... and I was hoping you'd be selling some parts !

[sen]

Glad it went to a good home mate.

Look forward to seeing the goodies you're putting on it!

Also, like we talked about on phone, this is how well a Gen 2 tail suits a Gen 1 busa (though it's a personal taste thing, still). It's a direct bolt-on too.

http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/attachments/busa-mods/240103d1329625317-mods-needed-swap-gen-1-tail-gen-2-tail-00_bluesilver_08tail.jpg


This is how I wanted to do the tail/seat (ignore the chrome!)

http://www.extremebusa.com/extreme/attachments/appearance-mods-gen1b/22474d1227704856-gen2-rearsets-gen1-dscn1643.jpg

[RevHead]

hey Cal that gen 2 bum looks great better then i thought ,um what to do ,lol

[K6Thou]

Go the gen 2 tail Pete.

[oldskool]

Second that brother that looks smart.

[Tony Nitrous]

You've motivated me Pete.
Just put the battery charger on mine,
started it, air in the tyres, lubed the chain,
thought "I really should get back into it".
Thanks !

[RevHead]

You've motivated me Pete.
Just put the battery charger on mine,
started it, air in the tyres, lubed the chain,
thought "I really should get back into it".
Thanks !

Your welcome Tony ,
im searching Ebay for a new or used gen 2 tail and subframe

[Bob]

I like either tail mate, it will lok cool when your done.

[HOS]

Nice one pete !
Glad the bike stayed in the family so to speak.
They have a very similar feel to the GSXR11, just lighter and much, much more power.

Just don't get into the habit of smacking it past 180 too often.
;)

[RevHead]

Just don't get into the habit of smacking it past 180 too often.
ive spoken to a dealer who confirmed the bike had a recall done to replace the timing chain and tentioner ,way back in 2000

i used to push my 1100 all the time ,on another note ,like you said its easy to speed on it ,and also to carry an extra 50mph everywhere ,ive got to set up the forks and the rears shock ,as its a tad soft for my likes ,but it tracks so well,today i went out and took it easy to Dorrigo is a great twisty bit of road ,then on the way back i opened it up to see if i was good enough for the bike ,i got one hell of a sore neck ,also ,the brakes just dont cut it ,what would you recommend for calipers,and should i go for a wave discs ,

[kev@vcm]

Sen ive already done the GEN II conversion on mine last yr and its a good mod get heaps of convo's about it and its a straight swap

[Tony Nitrous]

I've seen a couple done the other way too.

Gen1 tail onto Gen2 Busa.

Gen1 has less panels, and has cleaner lines.

Not sure if it gives more tyre clearance on stretched
and lowered race bikes due to being flater and not having
the "curved" Gen2 underside ? Maybe ?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9002/1on2.jpg

[ozzy1100]

brakes as for me when i played with the 6 spots i striped cleaned and rebuilt them, good fluid, braded lines and good pads
improved them lots but i always thought of useing a radial master but never got the opp to do so
maybe just easy to go radail front end off a gen2 but i feel the prob with them is the lack of a radial master but spliting hairs
the speeds i ride at the 6 spots did the job tho i had the choose on the 750 i have and stayed with the 4 spots for now
is it brakeing power , feel or fade that you feel is lacking to me that is the way you pick what you will do to fix.

[RevHead]

Just seemed to run on under braking ,if that makes sense,The old 1100 had 6 pots with a cbr radial master cylinder ,braided lines ,it had a soft brake lever but it would pull up better the the busa ,What il do is replace the brake lines with braided ones,and good quality brake fluid, and see were this take me 1st.

[Tony Nitrous]

Had two Busa's with braided lines, better pad's, fluids.

Neither would pull up like a B-King with stock brakes and
its factory rubber lines !

Never tried a radial master on a Busa but sounds like plan.

Yeah, Gen2's dont have radial masters, just calipers, but B-Kings do.

[RevHead]

thanks Tony ,

[Jockney Rebel]

happy as a pig in shit you are mate nice one

[MONO]

B king also has the biggest master cylinder Suzuki have put on a bike 3/4 - 19mm Radial, Busa gen 1 gen 2 bandit 5/8 Std

I think some late model ZX10's Have radial 19mm too.

O and bang on a 43t rear sprocket Pete, will fit to a std chain.

They're fairly doey with std gearing 17/40

[RevHead]

O and bang on a 43t rear sprocket Pete, will fit to a std chain.

They're fairly doey with std gearing 17/40

43 teeth it is ,i think ive got a
new one in my workshop

[MONO]

That's the maximum without buying a new chain.

[MONO]

Pete here' a refresher course on the Busa an old vid but a must see to any busa owner.
PS. watch the R1 get owned on the H/Way


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jApCAEq3LTU

[mozza]

15 min 37 seconds in.

I used to love watching this back in the days of VHS :cool:

[MONO]

Dam you Mozza just watched this again lol
Have got a copy some where on vhs too

[hooligan]

i've got copies of all the FB vids, too. I've also got deep pain thrombosis on dvd (it's just the crashes).

[oldskool]

I use a radial master with six pots and they work well.

[HOS]

Just don't get into the habit of smacking it past 180 too often.
ive spoken to a dealer who confirmed the bike had a recall done to replace the timing chain and tentioner ,way back in 2000

i used to push my 1100 past there all the time ,on another note ,like you said its easy to speed on it ,and also to carry an extra 50mph everywhere ,ive got to set up the forks and the rears shock ,as its a tad soft for my likes ,but it tracks so well,today i went out and took it easy to Dorrigo is a great twisty bit of road ,then on the way back i opened it up to see if i was good enough for the bike ,i got one hell of a sore neck ,also ,the brakes just dont cut it ,what would you recommend for calipers,and should i go for a wave discs ,

Good to hear the camchain and tensioner recall has been done.

When I got my first Abusa in 2000 it took my body time to become conditioned to the high wind pressure and hard spension. Had to recallibrate my brain speed sensors too. :D
Busa speed is an expensive addiction.

The front brakes are cack even on a brand new bike.
Quite a few busa guys fit the later GSXR1000 forks with radial calipers.
I'll post a photo of one of my mates conversion later.

I went down the wave discs, Earls stainless brake lines and some regular pad replacement route.
With 240 bhp and my bulk it needed decent stoppers !
I would rather chew up pads than relace the whole forks etc.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/HUMANHYBRID/Blown%20Busa/IMG_1687.jpg

[HOS]

From memory the Busa does 80 in 1st gear, 120 in 2nd etc.... unless anyone can correct me?

If I get boring tell me to fuck off?
But I love Busas :cool:

[RevHead]

more info the better bring it,thanks Col

[HOS]

Here ya go Pete, this is my mate Si's tasty Busa with the GSXR100 front end.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/HUMANHYBRID/Brackely%20bike%20fest/si1.jpg

[HOS]

Another handling mod is to reduce the wheelbase by dropping a couple of links out of the drive chain moving the rear wheel forward a 1/2" or so.
I did try it once and it did make it sharper on the steering, but I put it back to stock after a while it was a bit too twitchy tbh.

[HOS]

As far as handling goes the Busa is not a sports bike and never will be.
Its a big brutal ugly pig of a bike which is why I love em.
Its wide, its fat and its a slapper !

My riding style on the Busa, hussle it through the bends reasonably steady and then smack the throttle hard till the next bend.
Its a point and shoot bike, not a true twisties bike. But it handles well for what it is.

Its not a knife through the air, its like a like a baseball bat through the air. Blunt and heavy.
But then again the dry weight of the Busa is less than a stock Bandit 12, that gives you some perspective?
Weighs less than a B12 with massive power and speed. Nothing spins up like a busa, the shear rush it generates in an instant.

Dont buy class A, buy a Busa instead, you will live longer....... maybe.

[HOS]

Gen 1 Busa, top speed in each gear:

GEAR RATIO = SPEED IN GEARS

Gearing 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th

16/39 77 104 132 157 178 194
16/40 75 101 129 153 173 189
16/41 73 99 126 150 169 184
16/42 72 97 123 146 165 180
16/43 70 95 120 143 161 176

17/39 82 111 141 167 189 206
17/40 80 108 137 163 184 201
17/41 78 105 134 159 180 196
17/42 76 103 131 155 176 191
17/43 74 100 128 152 171 187

18/39 87 117 149 177 200 218
18/40 85 114 145 173 195 212
18/41 83 112 142 168 190 207
18/42 81 109 138 164 186 202
18/43 79 106 135 161 182 198

19/39 92 124 157 187 211 230
19/40 89 121 153 182 206 224
19/41 87 118 150 178 201 219
19/42 85 115 146 173 196 214
19/43 83 112 143 170 192 209

[RevHead]

i got back on Wednesday arvo after a 100k ride ,i complained to my wife fuck my neck is sore ,my mate brody ,commented ,fuck you blasted me off the road ,he was on a 2006 1200 bandit,i checked the rear sprocket its running a 45 tooth ,ive got a 43 in my workshop, should i change it to the 43 workshop ,also i was looking at fitting a 4into1 ,but decided i dont mind the 4into 2, ive ordered heat rap for the headers to get the heat away from the front of the donk,

[HOS]

1st stage of mods on mine:

1. Decent 4 into 1 full race exhaust.
2. Remove the pair valve.
3. Fit blanking plates where pair valve removed.
4. Do the stock airbox modification creating more air volume in the airbox.
5. Fit BMC race air filt r or similar.
7. Fit ECU interface to stock ECU and get it remapped on the dyno.

End result: super smooth and free breathing engine...... and more power. Which is always good.

The stock Busa exhaust has twin cats, they sap power. Some people decat the stock exhaust but its a load of hassle for little benefit.

[pav69]

i agree with hos you can never have enough power so turbo it is pete ,you know you want one300 plus bhp to play with as long as its smooth you wont get a sore neck anymore.just my opinion

[Tony Nitrous]

... needs less tupperware.

Hayabusa's make good naked bikes.

[RevHead]

... needs less tupperware.

Hayabusa's make good naked bikes.

Hahahahahah ,love it Tony

Tex was telling me he will sought out the air box mods for me.
Steve the thing is off its head as it is.
Col exhaust will get changed and heat wrapped,ive bought a K&N hi flow filter ,just waiting for it to
turn up
plus ive bought a lot of little bits and chrome ,pieces for it ,

[HOS]

Sounds like your having a lotta fun there Pete?

One mod you might find usefull on the bike is a velcro license plate holder ? ;)

[HOS]

A better photo of my mate Si's Gen 1 busa:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/HUMANHYBRID/Image041Large.jpg

[RevHead]

Sounds like your having a lotta fun there Pete?

One mod you might find usefull on the bike is a velcro license plate holder ? ;)

thats a good idea ,as the last time i rode 900ks home it got a bit boring doing 80ks in 100 k zones bc of car drivers

[RevHead]

14951496ok i had to buy a pillion seat as Jock took mine to gladestown ,and big kev had one and covered it in non slip material,i took to the re-end today and removed a lot of plastic then made my own tail tidy ,also removed the stock blinkers and fitted ,nice little led units

[JDinOZ]

Nice LEDs, looks tidy

[RevHead]

1560took all this shit off fitted a 4 into 1 full titanium race system,k&n air filter,new lever new blinkers front and rear ,piccis to come, chrome tank hold down bracket chrome grab rail,man i love the power of this bike.

[Jed]

1560took all this shit off fitted a 4 into 1 full titanium race system,k&n air filter,new lever new blinkers front and rear ,piccis to come, chrome tank hold down bracket chrome grab rail,man i love the power of this bike.

Pete - if that's all shit. You may as well send those "Shit" Yoshis' to me lol

[xa-mont]

You keen on my Tuono tail Pete?

[RevHead]

Jed the mufflers are for sale,lol
Trav im still thinking about that.

[RevHead]

this is the end result,im looking at ,but in another colour other then black
http://youtu.be/x8mpPbHTscQ

[Weaselman]

Showy moto front mask huh? Im thinking of putting one of those on the front of my Z

[kev@vcm]

what happen to keeping this bike stockish pete ? you are going to wreck that bike :/

[JDinOZ]

Got a scream on mine, looks good. Just don;t go for another gixer tail in my opinion thats way overdone

[hooligan]

what happen to keeping this bike stockish pete ? you are going to wreck that bike :/

nah, he's going to fighter it.

[kev@vcm]

nah, he's going to fighter it.

yeah :/ what a waste

[RevHead]

what happen to keeping this bike stockish pete ? you are going to wreck that bike :/

no im not ,street fighting is hot rodding modifying to your own tastes ,the japs made more then 2x gen 1 busa,s, plus ,it wont happen over night but it will happen,just for you own info its not that clean ,its been down on the right and the stripping on the fairings have the biggest paint edges ive ever seen ,i didnt buy it to keep it a stocker ,i bought it to make a fighter out of.

when i bought my 1100w it was a 1 owner stocker ,as ive been told ,best base for a fighter.

[JDinOZ]

Wow can;t believe all the comments about keeping it stock.. this is ASF of course he's going to rip the fairings off :) fuck keeping it stock. Plus just a personal opinion here but a stock busa is one ugly thing to behold..

[wackyrider]

^^^ What he said :)

[xa-mont]

+1... this is ausy streetfighters... not ausy stock whale riders.

[RevHead]

+1... this is ausy streetfighters... not ausy stock whale riders.

thanks guys ,an ive got a k6 tail for her,,excellent

[fimpBIKES]

this is the end result,im looking at ,but in another colour other then black


if there is another colour (and i doubt it) then i am certainly not aware of it! :rolleyes:

[Jed]

if there is another colour (and i doubt it) then i am certainly not aware of it! :rolleyes:

Yes there is. It's called "Bright Orange".

[RevHead]

no not orange been there done that

1626
new chrome grab rail,fitted a yoshi can to the titanium system,gsxr1100n front foot pegs fitted ,complete k6 subframe and tail going on next weekend ,ive fitted 4 pot tl1000s calipers braided front brake lines racing seat ,chrome tribel levers, chrome bits and pieces here and there ,next rip off the god ugly tail and fit up my k6 one ,then find a headlight unit and mask that works in the dark,then its off with the tupperware

[RevHead]

1941shit box tail off ,its actually very lite ,the gixer subframe is to diff to mod,im going to make a new one should look good ,more piccis to come

[bluedrags]

Did you get that case of turkey as well Pete.

[RevHead]

wife came over with dinner ,and wanted me to come home ,tomorrow lunch time il start on the case of turkey cans whos coming over to drink them with me,while i build the new rear subframe
also a big thank you to you Reece for picking up my box full of crap from Dan ,thank you fella ,much appreciated

[bluedrags]

Not a problem can't wait to see what it looks like.

[K6Thou]

Hey it wasn't crap....... lol

Did the indicators I taped to the outside of the box make it there in one piece ?

[Pab13]

Just seemed to run on under braking ,if that makes sense,The old 1100 had 6 pots with a cbr radial master cylinder ,braided lines ,it had a soft brake lever but it would pull up better the the busa ,What il do is replace the brake lines with braided ones,and good quality brake fluid, and see were this take me 1st.

I have done lines, fluid and brembo radial master cylinders and it made a huge difference I also did the 09 gsxr1000 rear end with a kit from the states hope that helps mate

[RevHead]

hey Pab ,ive done the calipers ,and its stops heaps better ,ive got braided lines to fit tomorrow ,ive got the kit in my watched ebay ,but i dont have 6 weeks and 900 bucks ,il make one its not that hard ,Dan lol yeah eveything is there ,cheers

[ALBI]

come on pete need more pics ,pics please

[RevHead]

ok ALBI , i spent the day making my subframe adaptor ,it came up a treat ,had to reposition the battery,among other things ,i made 2 top rails from 25x25,and the uprights from stainless ive mounted the rear seat from the standard subfram ,i had to shorten the whole thing ,by almost ,half of it original length, ive got a couple of brackets and tabs to weld on the tomorrow pull it all apart ,and seam weld ,it all and paint it all, i also had some colour that was close to the busa colour so i tinted it up to be very close ,heres some piccis of today
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[RevHead]

20132014the best thing is i can bolt the gixer thou seat straight on,

[BANDITROD]

looks good pete just need to ditch all that other shit now mate

[RevHead]

il get that crap off soon ,just got a few bz weeks coming up .then the frame protectors are gone

[Big Dan]

Man that looks good Pete well done

[oldskool]

Good work Pete.

[RevHead]

ahahahha thanks guys ,yup on it Dave ,

[RevHead]

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sorry the last two are blurry it was dark and was using a lead light
still got a few things to finish off ,seat mount bolts and a little wiring

[bluedrags]

Looks good mate I'll have to get my finger out of my arse and get mine done.

[StuNVA]

Looks good Pete, why didn't they bring them out like that, looks heaps better.

[RevHead]

Reece get on with it mate november isnt to far away ,if youve got most of the parts get the whole bike back together ,and then you can play with the subframe seating ,and the headlight and mask set up ,but havig the bits all over the shed ,means you wont get it going for years ,i bet as soon as youve got it on wheels leaning on the stand youl get it done quick,

Stu thanks mate ,yup i dont know why they didnt release them like that as well ,it feels so much better to ride ,as the seating possy is much lower then standard ,il finish off the seat mount in the morn , and the computer mounts.

[MattyDucati]

Looks great pete

[RevHead]

2024this is a little clearer ,thanks Mat

[nemo]

looks tha goods mate, only thing what thats wrong with them zooks is tha nasty bubbly lookin fairins..

[RevHead]

i got it coming off soon

[oldskool]

That was quick Pete and looking sweet.
How can a lower ride hight feel better?
Have you got duck disease or are you thinking of ape hangers next?

[RevHead]

lol ,just feels better to ride ,the next thing is to piss off the ugly front ,ive been buying diff headlights ,so i can match n mix till i find the right one
quick ,is having a full workshop ,with every conceivable thing in it before i started, thanks Dylan

[Jed]

Lookin good Pete. Now you have to cut that Can in half

[LKC73]

Its looking great Pete, and the sub frame you made isnt like your fighter from before and looks like there is alot of hours in it. Good stuff mate.

[ALBI]

done well pete looks good

[RevHead]

@ Luke it took me the whole of saturday to make it ,and it can take the standard undertray and inner plastics, i enjoyed making ,it .
thanks guys ,nah not chopping the can just yet ,as im going to dyno it 1st ,with a shorty and the cannon ,lol
202720282029ive scored a k8 front seat for her there a little wider in the front ,just need to reshape the front of it a tiny bit ,then thatl go on ,what i do need is a k6 rear seat and passenger pegs ,for when the ball and chain wants to come along for a ride

[Watto]

that came up looking sweet Pete

[RevHead]

thanks Watto

[Chase]

Thats com up real nice Pete!