Large's New ZX10 Project

[Large]

Just cut about 40mm off the bottom but it still doesn't line up with anything on the tank http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/692819474101472.JPG

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by sharky


quote:ps- how high can you kick you leg twinkletoes

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69281917712449.jpg



:D

[EXBEN]

Keep going
Here's one I prepared earlier :D
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/692819267210222.jpg

[BANDITROD]

thats better large im thinking benny boy has got it spot on mate

[Large]

Ok, just hacked another 20mm or so from the bottom curve. Still got to put a bit of concave in the rear of it I reckon.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/692819474105610.JPG

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69281947459739.jpg

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69281947459494.jpg

[sharky]

Sorted
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69281956363497.jpg

[fimpBIKES]

looking good large!

nice engine swap shark-guy

[zx12argh]

Looking good large - just reckon you got to fix this line now - not the raised bit the lower plane.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69282043055249.jpg

[pt]

i reckon looks good, but take 2 inches off the end? and definitely go the way sharky is saying with the concave and angled down a bit. or maybe you can compensate the nuts smashed on tank by shortening it more! then you can mash your balls all you like?

[Fight_fan]

Fuck yeh! Really starting to take shape!

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by EXBEN

Keep going
Here's one I prepared earlier :D
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/69282146461823.jpg



Yep, thats the one.

[Gix11]

Yep, definitely Ben's Last onemate. Get the file out again (Getting the idea of how long I spent on mine now mate?).
The weightier front part of the tail ties in with the bulky front end. The sleek one doesn't work as well.

[Jockney Rebel]

i better get my finger out and tart the bike up all this stuff thats gonna be hitting the streets soon is looking fine ..nice build large

[EFE 1230]

Coming together very well Mr Large....but is anyone going to be able to see all the hard work your putting in on the tail section when you are ..errr.. how do I put this...sitting on the bike???:D:D:D

[streets]

What sort of foam do you guys use for this kind of shaping?
Where can I get some?

[Gix11]

High Density (HD) Foam mate. I get mine from a special effects company who build theme park rides etc. They have shit loads of the stuff lying around and I just walked into their factory and asked for a bit. I got enough to do my tail section and Mark's light unit for $20. Industrial areas near you may have a company that uses the same stuff. Check it out. Alternatively you'll have to ask the others where they get it over the counter.

[Large]

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/37898679048407.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/37898679050547.JPG


Take your best shot[:p]

[streets]

You should strap a chainsaw beside it too...

[BANDITROD]

that looks fucking great large and BTW thanks for the parcel i got in the mail my postie was pissing himself laughing you smartarse lol

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by streets

You should strap a chainsaw beside it too...


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/37898679060794.jpg


I looked for the Jason mask but had no luck;)

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

that looks fucking great large and BTW thanks for the parcel i got in the mail my postie was pissing himself laughing you smartarse lol


No worries Mr "S":D

[Iceman]

Needs to be tilted down slightly I reckon.

I was search'n for something similar back when I tried the transformer head, you gunna paint it?

[BANDITROD]

check out what i just found for ya mate

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FRIDAY-THE-13TH-JASON-VS-FREDDY-HOCKEY-MASK_W0QQitemZ330233902126QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10312 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[BANDITROD]

and another one for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Friday-the-13th-Part-7-JASON-MASK-w-REMOVEABLE-HOCKEY_W0QQitemZ330234755572QQihZ014QQcategoryZ103 124QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by Iceman

Needs to be tilted down slightly I reckon.

I was search'n for something similar back when I tried the transformer head, you gunna paint it?




http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/37898709163501.JPG


I'm trying to get the angles right so the mask is still tucked in and the lights dont foul on the headstock.

This is supposed to be a genuine vintage goalie mask with weathering, so I'll run it as is for a while.

[Gix11]

I like it. It's different. Nice work.

[Large]

Finished glassing the tail a while back, but it was obviously too big, so got creative with thje crayons http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778656698.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778673785.JPG

[Large]

Then I got the dremel out and trimmed the whole thing down...but it's still tooo large [V] http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778642960.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778677885.JPG

[Large]

I actually found a guy in the UK who makes a fair copy of the desmo (except for the vents in the top which would be covered anyway) tail, but he wont answer his emails or the phone.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614124.jpg


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614002.jpg


So I've started on the tail unit again.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778642648.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778645155.JPG


...and there's foam everyfuckingwhere again:D

[pt]

like the idea of the desmo lookalike tail. whered you get ya foam? polystyrene is a cunt to work with and art shops look at me like i'm not on enough drugs when i ask for high density foam....:(

[HueyonaBlade]

[quote]Originally posted by Large

I actually found a guy in the UK who makes a fair copy of the desmo (except for the vents in the top which would be covered anyway) tail, but he wont answer his emails or the phone.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614124.jpg


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614002.jpg


Keep trying him Large his work looks as though its of an extremely high standard , just perfect to compliment your ride thus far , with obviously lots more to come;)Why no vents in the top M8 , don't you like em?

[fimpBIKES]

so the new tail is going to be less wide?

or is it still too big for ya all around?


might not look so out of place with a custom subframe on there

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

so the new tail is going to be less wide?

or is it still too big for ya all around?


might not look so out of place with a custom subframe on there


Less wide
Less long
Same height:)

And yes, been thinking about redoing the subby

[zx12argh]

Hey large - I'm about to go down the custom subframe and tail for the 12.
My plan is to fuck off sculpting foam - I haven't done an arts degree so I'm pretty useless in that regard. Tried and failed about 3 times really. My plan is to produce scaled side, top and rear views of a tail piece I want - plug them into solidworks and produce 3d models. From this I will be able to print out "slices" of the tail that I can stick to timber and cut out and assemble the tail piece like an aircraft wing is made. I'll fill in the missing sections with expander foam and then sand back inline with the timber templates. Hey presto hopefully I'll have a nice plug sorted. I'll also be able to lay everything up in solidworks with a photo of the bike so I can see it assembled on the bike - sort of - will only work in a side view but you get the idea.

[fimpBIKES]

balsa would be nice and easy mr ZX

i'll have something that might interest you in my RG thread tomorrow ;)

[zx12argh]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

balsa would be nice and easy mr ZX

i'll have something that might interest you in my RG thread tomorrow ;)


Cool - will wait and see what you got mr fimp. I was thinking cheap fibreboard - I dont want to use anything that will ablate faster then the foam - expanding foam is suprisingly tough. I figure i'll have to give the whole lot a fine coat of body filler or plaster as outlaw did with his headlight unit before hitting it with paint etc.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by HueyonaBlade

[quote]Originally posted by Large

I actually found a guy in the UK who makes a fair copy of the desmo (except for the vents in the top which would be covered anyway) tail, but he wont answer his emails or the phone.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614124.jpg


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/97782778614002.jpg


Keep trying him Large his work looks as though its of an extremely high standard , just perfect to compliment your ride thus far , with obviously lots more to come;)Why no vents in the top M8 , don't you like em?


That's where the exhaust is going:)

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/48386504630168.jpg

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by zx12argh

Hey large - I'm about to go down the custom subframe and tail for the 12.
My plan is to fuck off sculpting foam - I haven't done an arts degree so I'm pretty useless in that regard. Tried and failed about 3 times really. My plan is to produce scaled side, top and rear views of a tail piece I want - plug them into solidworks and produce 3d models. From this I will be able to print out "slices" of the tail that I can stick to timber and cut out and assemble the tail piece like an aircraft wing is made. I'll fill in the missing sections with expander foam and then sand back inline with the timber templates. Hey presto hopefully I'll have a nice plug sorted. I'll also be able to lay everything up in solidworks with a photo of the bike so I can see it assembled on the bike - sort of - will only work in a side view but you get the idea.


Seen bodywork done that way with foam slices about 2" thick. If you can get accurate cross sections it should be easy enough. But how do ytou get the cross sections accurate?

Btw, can you tell me the ground clearance under your moteur/exhaust, whichever is lower ploz??

[HueyonaBlade]

oooooooooooooooooooo! Large thats bloody beautiful , Hope it all comes together and quickly

[zx12argh]

quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by zx12argh

Hey large - I'm about to go down the custom subframe and tail for the 12.
My plan is to fuck off sculpting foam - I ..... the bike - sort of - will only work in a side view but you get the idea.


Seen bodywork done that way with foam slices about 2" thick. If you can get accurate cross sections it should be easy enough. But how do ytou get the cross sections accurate?


I'll be able to do a section view through planes in my model then print them off. Glue the images to the timber/foam (still working that out) and cut them out that way. I reckon I'll be able to get a much more symetric profile rather then using my eye.


quote:
Btw, can you tell me the ground clearance under your moteur/exhaust, whichever is lower ploz??


The sump is the lowest point on the bike - i'll try to remember to chuck a tape under it mate.

[fimpBIKES]

yeah thats why im doing it that way too, my expensive german tailpiece is off and i've never been that happy about it :(

[Large]

The best thing about a home made tailpiece is, It doesn't matter what it looks like...ay least no other cunt will have one

[zx12argh]

quote:Originally posted by Large

The best thing about a home made tailpiece is, It doesn't matter what it looks like...ay least no other cunt will have one


I searched through hundreds of fighter pics to make sure the head light i bought was original - decided upon it - purchased it then within a month saw 3 in various differnt sources. not happy jan.

[Rumbo]

Nice work big fella.

[BANDITROD]

hey big boy i just found this on evil bay and thought of you mate its a bit pricey but who gives a fuck ya cant take it with ya can ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Carbon-Fiber-Moto-GP-Tail-Ducati-748-916-996-998-All_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ35606QQihZ018QQitemZ280227831468

[JackTar]

Any good for ya big fella?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Casoli-Italian-Ducati-996-single-seat_W0QQitemZ250292821754QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10269 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[fimpBIKES]

or perhaps one of these?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Genuine-Leather-Head-Harness-with-red-ball-gag-mask_W0QQitemZ110288286774QQihZ001QQcategoryZ4844Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[zx12argh]

"lovely item, do not miss it!
give me your email address .I will send more pic to you and show you how to use. "

I'm glad it comes with instructions... I could have gotten it wrong.

[Shadowzone]

I like the fact I get to remain anonymous.

Wouldn't want my neighbours knowing I was buying a gag mask now would I?

[JackTar]

Ox Leather does it get any better? If I am gonna gag on something I want it to be ox.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

hey big boy i just found this on evil bay and thought of you mate its a bit pricey but who gives a fuck ya cant take it with ya can ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Carbon-Fiber-Moto-GP-Tail-Ducati-748-916-996-998-All_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ35606QQihZ018QQitemZ280227831468


Top's perfect. Back is a bit old

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by JackTar

Any good for ya big fella?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Casoli-Italian-Ducati-996-single-seat_W0QQitemZ250292821754QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10269 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Nah, too old looking.

[BANDITROD]

yeah it still looks the goods though im sure someone here could modify it for ya maybe shayne or ben

[Large]

After getting the TTR semi reliable (just needs a tuuuune) I've been getting back into the ZX10. Redid the tail unit and bought a Motogadget to fit under the Jason facemask.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789690209.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789666100.JPG

[BANDITROD]

that looks great big fella good to see you get the tail sorted mate

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

that looks great big fella good to see you get the tail sorted mate


Cheers mate.

It's going to take a shitload of work yet to make up plates over the top and exhausts to suit.

[Large]

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789655699.JPG


Not too sure about the air inlets for the tail unit....Look abit like a cartoon character..

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789648257.JPG

[BANDITROD]

with the exhaust are you having a crack yourself cos it will be a fair task by the looks of it mate good luck with it all

[Large]

I've got to try and run a pipe up to here
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789657036.JPG
and make a boxy (but safe ;) ) muffler setup and align the whole thing so it ends up looking like

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/48386504630168.jpg

I reckon I'll call on Ben [8D]

[BANDITROD]

maybe you could make use of a CBR undertail exhaust and just modify it to suit but it would still be a bit of fucking around

[fimpBIKES]

leave the vents mate, but maybe make the corners less rounded
the rest of the tail is pretty aggressive so run with that theme ;)

[CBRRRT]

I am staggered beyond belief at some of the innovative stuff I see on this site, and the clever blokes that seem to be able to turn out one-off’s at the drop of a hat.[:0]

I look at my bike with its bolt on bits and bobs and think it looks fantastic, and because I bolted it on, I am the bollocks. Then I take a look around at what you guys are up to, and I am suddenly brought back down to earth with a bump.[B)]

I’m humbled by you guys, and any time I feel myself getting a bit big headed I log on, have a little wander round, and think to myself, “You Know Nothing Cunt” [:o)]

You guys are in the Premiership of bike building. :D

[zx12argh]

Good going there large one. Nice to see some progress on this beastie.
As fimp says leave the vents - as soon as you get some grills in there it will look the shit.

[Bear]

Lookin good, Large. But, have you thought about how you're going to throw a leg over that tail-piece? :D

[Gix11]

Why does the thought of you wearing this disturb me so much? vvvvvvvvv this vvvvvvvvv:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789648257.JPG

[Cruisecontrol]

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/544111750123244.jpg

[pt]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/544111750123244.jpg



DEAD SEXY.[8D] be a good look for rosco when chair dancing, just wath you dont spill too much JD and coke on the white one.

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by Gix11

Why does the thought of you wearing this disturb me so much? vvvvvvvvv this vvvvvvvvv:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/33517789648257.JPG


Fuckin hell.... It's only taken me two days to pick up your point.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/75304987839023.JPG


Now I've got to decide between "Ultraviolence" or

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/75304987844028.JPG


"Chainsaw Death"



[:p]

[CBRRRT]

Large, what is the product name of that blue foam stuff you use. Do you layer your fiberglass over it like a plug. If so do you coat it to stop the chemicals in the resin melting it.

I have a gap between my tank and my seat and I have been advised to add foam to the seat but there is not really enough covering to add foam then fix the cover bact to the seat sub-frame.

I was thinking perhaps I could sculpt a bit of that stuff and make a fiberglass tank protector to close up the 10 to 12mm gap.

I would value you advice matey

Regards

Jon

[Slingblade]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/544111750123244.jpg



I think that may be the one of the funniest things i have seen. But i dont get out much.

One of your best Dan.

PS Front end looks chunky Rich, nice. I think it has enough bulk to get away with no plastic. Go with lights only and let it all hang out. Might be more work keeping the wiring tidy but it will be worth it.

[TheBogyman]

hey large, just cruising the boards, your looking good big guy, cant wait too see the finished artical,,,i am in the middle of a build, just stuffed in a vfr 750 arm, and looking at wheel options, thats a decent choice,,and those yokes are streetfighter porn,utterly jealous man,,,,good luck with the build,,ill be keeping a close watch on this one,,as for us poor bastards here in the UK, its hibernate in the shed time,,,

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by CBRRRT

Large, what is the product name of that blue foam stuff you use. Do you layer your fiberglass over it like a plug. If so do you coat it to stop the chemicals in the resin melting it.

I have a gap between my tank and my seat and I have been advised to add foam to the seat but there is not really enough covering to add foam then fix the cover bact to the seat sub-frame.

I was thinking perhaps I could sculpt a bit of that stuff and make a fiberglass tank protector to close up the 10 to 12mm gap.

I would value you advice matey

Regards

Jon


It's literally called Blue Foam or Extruded Polystyrene Foam.

I bought it from a place that molded fairings to go on truck cabins, but that was a while back and I cant remember exactly where it was.

Do a google search on "Blue Foam" and you'll find modellers talking about it with links to various manufacturers. It's used by plane, train and (maybe even automobile) modellers.

It comes in sheets of 2400 x 600 and widths from 12.5 - 150mm or something so it may be a bit much for your needs.

Someone here tried using that foam in a can that you use to block up holes in your house to mold up a tank a while back, so that could be an option for a small area.

I used masking tape to protect the foam. Thats the pic with the light green plug. Apparently I should have used some wax/release stuff too [V] any tape like packing tape etc will work if it sticks to the foam well.

[Z Power]

looks the goods large

[CBRRRT]

Thanks for your help mate, I'll see what I can find, and never know I might come up with a kick arse rear end like yours.

[Brodie]

The Kawasaki just got relegated again............ to the corner.......HAHAHA. That spondon has a few apologies to make i think!

[fimpBIKES]

suprised that this one isnt for sale already LOL

[Brodie]

He cant sell it cause its not even a proper bike anymore....its just bits of one......;) LMFAO

[CBRRRT]

Hey Large, I made my tank protector today using your Glass over foam method and it looks ok. Thank for the advice matey, takes me one step closer to paint.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12308&whichpage=11

Cheers BIG'UN

[nmilne]

What bars are you using? Do you know the height/rise/sweep of them?

Cheers!

[Brodie]

Is largey still pretending he is acutally working on this bike????? ;) LOOOOOOL

[Weaselman]

I was thinking he should blow the dust off before taking more pics

or is he out polishing the spondon

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by nmilne

What bars are you using? Do you know the height/rise/sweep of them?

Cheers!


Sorry Neil, Didn't see your post.

They're ABM fatbars from Stu At Ausfr. So they don't have a Reed/Henry bend or anything like that

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by Brodie

Is largey still pretending he is acutally working on this bike????? ;) LOOOOOOL


In geological terms...this project is screaming along.[:p]

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by Weaselman

I was thinking he should blow the dust off before taking more pics

or is he out polishing the spondon


Haven't polished it yet.

I'm discovering the joys of finding out all the little idiosyncrasies of an ICV

[:0]:D

Good Times

[nmilne]

quote:Originally posted by Large

Sorry Neil, Didn't see your post.

They're ABM fatbars from Stu At Ausfr. So they don't have a Reed/Henry bend or anything like that


Ok, cheers mate - the sweep looks a bit much for me, but I like the rise. I've got an old set of 966's that I'm going to use to work out rough bar position once I get my clamps on (or more accurately once brad gets my clamps on, after painting and drilling the lower yokes ;)). I'm thinking just a set of renthal enduro bend fatbars might be ok, which have slightly more rise than the 966's, but if the rise isn't enough I'll probably go for their ricky bend which has another 20mm rise and a similar low sweep angle...

[Brodie]

quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by Brodie

Is largey still pretending he is acutally working on this bike????? ;) LOOOOOOL


In geological terms...this project is screaming along.[:p]


If that means your alcohol abuse is gathering speed then yes, thats entirely true.....still not convinced on the bike....I am looking at it......Looks kinda like an ornament in a museum......[:o)]:D

[CBRRRT]

Hey Big man, how the build going? any more progress photos to post yet?

[BANDITROD]

i doubt it he is to busy staring at his spondon the lucky bastard

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by BANDITROD

i doubt it he is to busy <s>staring</s> swearing at his spondon the lucky bastard


Fixed. ;)

[BANDITROD]

thanks dan ...thats what meant

[Gix11]

What is the go with the Spondon? Rego problems or mechanical?

[BANDITROD]

i am sure its the rego side of things i think si

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by Gix11

What is the go with the Spondon? Rego problems or mechanical?


Being an ICV it has a few idiosyncrasies....like not wanting to start when I'm sitting on the seat. But I can put up with that because of the pleasure it gives when riding it. It really is the sweetest handling/best sounding bike I've owned.

The RTA are a pack of cunts tho. Even though it's been engineered and rego'd in WA, they want a NSW engineers report, because apparently NSW ADR's are different to WA ADRs.:(

[Fight_fan]

Thats ghey Large! I had the same problem with my 7/11! Even tho it was rego'd in Vic i had to jump thru so many hoops to get it engineered n certified! End up costing me about $1400 by the time I had it on the road!

[pappas]

Hey Fight Fan, was that because of the 1100 motor? Or something else like subframe?

Do the RTA NEED to know if the bike has a 1100 in it? or could I just tell them it's a reco 750?

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by pappas

Hey Fight Fan, was that because of the 1100 motor? Or something else like subframe?

Do the RTA NEED to know if the bike has a 1100 in it? or could I just tell them it's a reco 750?


The RTA don't need to know anything.

But if you hide something from them and/or your insurer (if you have one) it could come back and bite you if you crash or get stopped by the rozzers and certain bits or numbers don't match.

[Large]

as for the -10.

I'm hoping to get it running by the end of the month. I figure once I can sit on it and ride it around a bit, I will get keen to do more on it.

[rock hard]

hang in there rich.

[Fight_fan]

quote:Originally posted by pappas

Hey Fight Fan, was that because of the 1100 motor? Or something else like subframe?

Do the RTA NEED to know if the bike has a 1100 in it? or could I just tell them it's a reco 750?


Both really! I needed an engineers cert for the engine swap n a blue slip fpr rego n I got ran around somethin fierce! They wanted me to do an ADR brake test to make sure my K4 Gix1000 front end was up to the task of stoppin the bike plus a Db check! Luckily my engineer rode n let me off easy! Otherwise it would have cost me a fuck load more! [xx(] Oh well its all over now anyway...

[droy333]

Awesome work man. I just broke the front off my 10r and plan to fighter it. I'd love a set of those triple trees. :P