Chubs '92 gsxr 750

[chubs]

Ok here goes.

This is how it originally looked:
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1980

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/547/gsxr0031er.jpg

[chubs]

Just sprayed the front wheel black. Couldn't get the rotors off, so its a bit patchy in the middle:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2892/20060630bikepics0081tt.jpg

[chubs]

Just polished the right hand side of the frame, and started taking off fairings. Lookin sweet. You can see my reflection in the top photo.

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1407/20060630bikepics0012se.jpg

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2865/20060630bikepics0049yg.jpg

[Gix11]

Hey Chubs. I'm a bit concerned. What do you mean "Couldn't get the rotors off"? Do you mean they wouldn't come off (sheared/rounded bolt heads or something) or couldn't be arsed? Nice work on the frame though mate.

[chubs]

I didn't shear any bolts or anything, but i couldn't get them to budge, and my allen key was starting to bend. I need a rattle gun to undo them i guess.
A job for another day, in the meantime i'd like to keep the bike on the road.

[Deano]

chubs. they are loctited in from factory. use a good quality allen key and put a long piece of pipe on it, then close your eyes and hope for the best.

I just took the discs off the track bike the other night and that what i had to do.

[fimpBIKES]

a bit of heat tends to work wonder too mate

nice gixx

[chubs]

Got it - i did exactly what you said, deano. Worked a treat.
I tried asking at the ocau.mc forums, and got a million answers, ranging from using a hair dryer (what the???) to using a rattle gun (overkill!!!), but the good old breaker bar on an allen key got it.

[Razorback]

Aslo givin them a bash with a centre punch a few tmies can break up the locktite

Bought meself a couple of impact driver allen keys a couple of months ago. Invaluable, the Kwak has a lot of allen key jobbies, and all of them now come loose (the previous owner was a loctite, do it up hard as you can fool). Plus they're re-usable (no destroyed key or bolt). They cost a bit, $14:00 a pop- from Fisher Discounts, but worth every cent. I got a 5, 6 and 8 mmm, covers just about everything.

[Razorback]

Yeah Chalk thats how I generally get my disks off. (just had to do it recently as some of you know LOL) The ones we couldnt get to move with the centre punch we used the impact driver on. Good stuff!

[Deano]

keep in mind that loctite looses 30% of it strength once heated above 100degrees C

Think I might just take the bottom end to the shop. I had a 3 foot ratchet on it, and not a sign of a budge. Impact driver didn't work either.
Some people just shouldn't be allowed into a garage.

[Deano]

quote:Originally posted by chalk10

Think I might just take the bottom end to the shop. I had a 3 foot ratchet on it, and not a sign of a budge. Impact driver didn't work either.
Some people just shouldn't be allowed into a garage.


I tried to get the 50mm clutch nut undone on the 1100w motor when rebuilding it (it holds the clutch plates and diaphram spring together) and wouldn't budge with a 1000ft 3/4" rattle gun.

i think i will be up shit creek when i burn out the current set of clutch plates[xx(]

[Gix11]

I used a 5ft bar bell with the end cap removed slid over the breaker bar for that job. Works a treat!

unfortunately using a longer extension on the ratchet won't help, as the clutch holder tool just keeps popping off, even thoughy I drilled it up and bolted it to the case, just to hold id tightly in place. Hopefully a rattle gun will sort it out.
The engine doesn't have to be finished before the weekend anyway as the new radiator/cooler bracket and new headlight shell/bracket are being painted tomorrow night, and she ain't going nowhere without them. With any luck be back on the road by the weekend.

[Gix11]

It's all about body placement mate. I made my own holder tool and just held it in place with my leg as I used the bar. Changed it 3 times so far with the same method. Yea, I know 3 times in about 30,000ks is excessive but one was to deglase, and then one was to re-bloody-glase after going to far and not being able to take off at all without stalling - tip: don't deglase with a bottle of rum onboard.

Yeah tried that one too Gix, still no good. So far I have 3 snapped bolts, 3 allen heads stripped (hence the impact driver allen key bits) and 2 standard socket type bolts which will have to have the haeds cut off and then removed. As well as the clutch hub nut.
All of the bolts have come out coated in this red shit, like really coated in the shit.
And yeah I'll stay away from the rum when working (should stay away from everything when drinking rum, turns me nasty)

[chubs]

Okay, me and deano are going to swap: my fairings for some of his gear. Very excited...
So i've stripped this thing off:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/913/20060711img15193no.jpg

And now it looks like this:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9192/20060711img15185sb.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/905/20060711img15201fq.jpg

[Booster]

Deano and Chubs you may be able to help , a guy i know is trying to undo a dodgy streetfighter conversion on a 95 (w?) model 1100 he is looking for some std clipons and will have a set of bars and risers available. headlight mounts and gauge mounts are there too but not very tidy (dodgy bits).
Ta

[Deano]

750 clip ons go underthe top triple and 1100 go above the top triple.

you cant run 750 clip ons on the 1100 triples with out changing the top triple also to 750.

if changin from 750 clip ons/triple it will hit against the 1100 headlight fairing.

the 95mod has different headlight/clock/steering damper and faring mounts than the 92mod.

to undo the streetfight mod he will have to get all 1100 parts and they will all have to be from a 94/95 mod

good luck

[Booster]

Thanks!I was playing with Harleys during those years (and i can't remember why)

Sorry for the thread hijack Chubs , Frame is looking good! What colour are you planing or leaving the factory scheme?

[chubs]

The colour plan is to simply go black at this stage, or maybe gunmetal grey. Or possibly purple... i haven't really given it too much thought, i'm more concerned with getting the new headlights / bars / mirrors and getting it back on the road asap.

[chubs]

Bought a pair of pro-taper's on the weekend, and the risers and headlights arrived at work today... very excited!
Plan to paint the risers and top triple-clamp black before fitting, to match the black bars.

[chubs]

Considering getting the top triple-clamp powdercoated... anyone have experience with this?
http://www.powderprinciple.com.au/index.php?pr=Terms

[chubs]

Okay i've got the old triple clamp off:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7482/20060718bikepics012smallzz3.jpg

And here are the newly arrived goodies - can't wait to chuck it all on!!!
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4711/20060718bikepics011smalllq0.jpg

Hey Chubs, can I get the specs for the lights? bulb, diameter, depth?

I'm going to haveto upgrade the power of my setup at some stage and would like to know if they would fit?

[chubs]

I got them second-hand off of deano, so i don't have the original box and specs.
I can tell you they are supposed to be the same as the ones that austreetfighter.com.au sells.
They do use standard h4 bulbs, though.

[Deano]

They use H4 60/55w

[fimpBIKES]

same protapers i had on the SV
feel free to take off the crossbrace

i never had any troubles without it and it looks 1000x better

[chubs]

Hmm i never thought of that. Yeah you're right - it'd probably look better. I mean, not like we're putting as much strain on the bars as the MX guys would. I'll remember that for later.

And: I've got a question regarding the risers: http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2393

[chubs]

Okay, got the risers all mounted up (with instruments!), and the clamp painted black.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8210/20060724bikepics009vl2.jpg

[Deano]

looking good mate.

[chubs]

Okay, the headlight brackets have arrived. Very excited, but have a look at this photo.
I called stu, apparently half the brackets come raw, and half come anodised. Obviously this'll look silly on the bike. Any ideas? My idea is to sandpaper the anodising off, and give them all a coat of clear.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1585/20060727bikesmallxq8.jpg

[Deano]

your are right -- that is fucking stupid.

i believe you can use harsh oven cleaner that will strip the anodising. i am not sure what oven cleaner tho but i read it somewhere once before.

[chubs]

I wasn't going to use those precise words - i'm well aware that stu is on this forum - but you're right, and for the pretty penny i paid for it, well...

Oven cleaner doesn't work - i've tried it before. I'll just spend some time with some sandpaper and chalk it up to experience.

[God]

Hey Chubs,

Dumb question (yeah I'm good at those), but can't you just swap to get two the same?

[chubs]

Not a dumb question, but i already tried. Apparently thats the way they come from the supplier: the bigger clamps are anodized, the little one's arent. And i need both big and little clamps, because my forks taper near the top. So... its time to break out the sandpaper and get busy for me!

[God]

Bugger! Happy sanding!!!

[Large]

They must be designed that way...have you tried them on the bike?

http://www.austreetfighter.com.au/scart/html/159.html

[gibbo]

Chubs, try soaking the clamps in a caustic soda solution, apparently strips off the anodising. Recomended from a good source.

[chubs]

I soaked them in oven cleaner for an hour, didn't do all that much, and spent another hour sanding them all. It looks alright now.

And an update: the bike is (almost) all together now. Ripped off the clipons, fitted the headlights, put on the mx bars, all the cables, new brake lines, indicators, blah blah blah a million little things and here's the current result:

Big thanks to deano for swapping cables, brake lines, headlights, risers, and handlebar for my old fairings and bits - you're a champ.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5615/20060730bike010smallmi4.jpg

[Deano]

Looks good mate. got my cable alos fitted - much better. put new inners in the throttle cables as they were quite freyed

[Rocket]

That looks much better Chubs.
Coming along just nicely I'd say.

[chubs]

quote:Originally posted by Deano

Looks good mate. got my cable alos fitted - much better. put new inners in the throttle cables as they were quite freyed


Sorry about that - they must have been the original ones. I hope the clip-ons will make it up to you - i'll send them soon. Thanks for everything.

[Deano]

quote:Originally posted by chubs


quote:Originally posted by Deano

Looks good mate. got my cable alos fitted - much better. put new inners in the throttle cables as they were quite freyed


Sorry about that - they must have been the original ones. I hope the clip-ons will make it up to you - i'll send them soon. Thanks for everything.


i wouldn't worry mate. i'm not.

i'm just happy i didin't have to fuck around shortening cables. to do that i would haveto put in new inners anyway.;)

[fimpBIKES]

looking good mate
fucking expensive brackets for what they are!!

but it does look the part

[chubs]

Don't rub it in fimp! I'm still feeling the pain of handing over that much cash...

[chubs]

Okay: For the mirrors, i've decided to go a slightly different route than the normal bar-ends, also hoping to bruise the bank balance a bit less.

Going to get a couple of brackets like this:
http://www.austreetfighter.com.au/scart/photos/127.jpg

And screw a couple of these onto them:
http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/images/maltiscross02B.JPG

Should be $12 + $50... so what do ya think?

Like the mirrors mate. Do you have the matching spiked helmet?

Are the stems long enough to see around you're arms?

I recently went from bar-ends to the same set-up (My brake lever unit still had the mirror mount blank on it, just had to drill and tap it for the mirror) with a similar sized mirror to the one above, and I can't see feck-all but my arms in them.

[Gix11]

Yea, I have the same length as well. Get used to moving about to see anything mate as your arms will be all you see if you stay still. Never been an issue for me though.........

Yeah, don't know what I'm complaining about really, all I needed them for recently was to see how far Turbo had fallen behind me :D

[chubs]

Well, if you can point me in the direction of some reasonable bar-ends that aren't $200, i'm interested. Spiked helmet - ha.

Sorry, the bar-end mirrors I was using won't fit you're bars, they're from MCS and are designed for conventional thin walled steel 7/8 bars, not the thicker-walled Renthals.

I do have a spare mount (no mirror) here I can send up, if you want to look at adapting it for you're bars. Let me know.

[chubs]

A single mount won't do - i need both mirrors (I called the RTA technical enquiries - you need 2 mirrors to be legal).
Your barends suit 7/8 bars? That's what mine are - Protaper SE (seven Eighths). Inside Diameter: 13.5mm (i measured last night)

The renthals have a thicker wall than standard steel bars. I'll check the measurements tonight, if they can possibly fit I can send you the adaptor to check before spending you're money. But they are only $26 each (mount and mirror) from most bike shops.

This is what they look like (I only ran one)
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/images/gallery/kawa/chalky/chalk_gpz.jpg

[chubs]

I'll visit a bikeshop and supercheap tonight, let you know what i find. cheers

[fimpBIKES]

check out ebay

i got some old kwaka bar ends that clamped around the outer of the bar (which is always 7/8"'s at the grips)and i had those on my protaper 7/8s on the SV

cost me 5 bucks and a bit of black paint

what the "chrome" on cheap mirrors
its generally shithouse and will rust up in about a month on the street

also check out bicycle shops
a lot of them have mirrors cheap

[chubs]

Supercheap was a waste of time, but i guess thats expectable.
The bike shop sold me a couple of brackets that clamp around the handlebars, and give you a 10mm fitting for universal mirrors to bolt on to.
BUT i tried later on to fit these - and there isn't enought space on the straight part of the bars to fit them! damn it...

[chubs]

Guess what i've just ordered ??? :)

http://www.12gagekustoms.com.au/images/firemaltesemirror.jpg

[sickboy]

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/1058329068136099.jpg

[sickboy]

Fuckinell thats a bit big,you can have these if you want ,free,original lenses exploded after first wheel stand so I stuck some cheap convex mirrors inplace which means objects appear further away(not good), they will fit handle bar ends 14mm and up, yours if you want em.

[chubs]

Sounds awesome! give me your number or email and i'll get in contact!

[sickboy]

sorted.

[chubs]

Thanks mate, got your email, cheers!

[ozkat]

Why not use the U shaped part of the Bandit mirror mounts on your GSXR, thats what i did.

[chubs]

ozkat - can you give me more details??? Which bandit do i get the parts off? That sounds promising...

Well - i rode it for the first time since all these changes last night. Damn its so much more fun now in the upright position!!! Its awesome!

[Gix11]

Look at your brake and clutch lever mounting points on your bike. See two bolts going through a half bar sized clamp? Well on the bandit they are exactly the same size but have and extra piece at the top which is threaded to fit your mirrors into. If you can't find Bandit ones, your local accessory shop can source after market versions of the same piece.

[chubs]

Hmm... It'll be ok on the right hand side, but not on the left hand side. The left side doesn't have the U shaped bit which clamps on with two bolts, but rather it clamps around in one piece.
Have a look below:
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9730/20060711img1520rp6.jpg

quote:Originally posted by sickboy

Fuckinell thats a bit big,you can have these if you want ,free,original lenses exploded after first wheel stand so I stuck some cheap convex mirrors inplace which means objects appear further away(not good), they will fit handle bar ends 14mm and up, yours if you want em.
if ya want new mirrors(lenses) for these Chubs just email me the diameter required and i'll send em to ya free.

[fimpBIKES]

there are a heap of different and fairly cheap replacement clutch levers u could get
just go to a wreckers and poke around til u find one with the screw thread in it

[chubs]

I think i'll just get an adaptor with a screw thread for the right side, and use one of davo's ones for the left, painted black of course. For the time being, until i can purchase a new clutch lever.

Davo: I'll measure it up and let you know! Thanks a million!
Fimp: that sounds like what i'll have to do. Pain in the ass... i should have stuck with bar ends!!!

[chubs]

Or.... i could drill and tap the old bar-ends that the bike came with??? Does this sound like it'd work?

That's effectively what I've got Chubs.
Exben made me up some solid, push in, extensions for my bars, which he drilled (M8) and tapped for my indicators to screw directly into. I had the extensions welded in, and drilled a slot into the middle of the bars, which is where the indicator wires feed out from. Works a treat, and gave me the wider bars I wanted.
(PS I do have to be more careful when threading my way through traffic, as the exra width of the indicators makes car mirrors / drivers elbows etc an issue)

[chubs]

sickboy - Thanks a million! those mirrors arrived yesterday, and today i got to ride the bike to work for the first time since starting all this!!!
Anyway, i've finished with it for now. I might change the mirrors or paint these ones, and maybe paint the tank black. But nothing for a while...

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1604/20060808bike001smalldc6.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8761/20060808bike004smalliq3.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2002/20060808bike005smallxy4.jpg

[Gix11]

Nice one Chubs. Good to see results mate.

[TurboKat]

Lookin like a STREETFIGHTER now Chubs, good stuff.

[houle john]

quote:Originally posted by chubs

Hmm... It'll be ok on the right hand side, but not on the left hand side. The left side doesn't have the U shaped bit which clamps on with two bolts, but rather it clamps around in one piece.
Have a look below:
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9730/20060711img1520rp6.jpg

you can use the older suzuki models such as the gs/gsx,katana . basicaly any one that came without fairings.:D