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ozkat
14-04-2006, 09:46 PM
Air shifter V Electric shifter? Anyone got any info? pros/cons?
Rich
14-04-2006, 09:49 PM
What are you going to air or electric shift ??

Cheers Rich
Rich
14-04-2006, 09:49 PM
What are you going to air or electric shift ??

Cheers Rich
ozkat
14-04-2006, 09:55 PM
I cant remember, i was just looking to find out which is best these days and easiest to install
ozkat
14-04-2006, 09:55 PM
I cant remember, i was just looking to find out which is best these days and easiest to install
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 07:36 AM
http://www.holeshot.com/old/shifters/shifter3.html
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 07:36 AM
http://www.holeshot.com/old/shifters/shifter3.html
ozkat
15-04-2006, 07:48 AM
Thanks Tony, looks like just what i want.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 07:48 AM
Thanks Tony, looks like just what i want.
Rich
15-04-2006, 10:59 AM
Are you going to start dragging that mystery bike ??

Cheers Rich
Rich
15-04-2006, 10:59 AM
Are you going to start dragging that mystery bike ??

Cheers Rich
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 05:48 PM
I spotted the shifter age's ago when I had my B12,
Always thought it would be lighter for the street than an
air shifter (unless you run without the on-board compressorand use the swingarm as a tank like a full on Dragger)

Looking at it now, it seems expensive.
How had would it be to put one together ?
The basics are a BIG chunky solenoid, a cable, and
an adjustable timer to cut the ignition as it shifts.
Not sure I could build one, but im sure there are folk
around who could ?

Just a thought.....

Tony.J.
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 05:48 PM
I spotted the shifter age's ago when I had my B12,
Always thought it would be lighter for the street than an
air shifter (unless you run without the on-board compressorand use the swingarm as a tank like a full on Dragger)

Looking at it now, it seems expensive.
How had would it be to put one together ?
The basics are a BIG chunky solenoid, a cable, and
an adjustable timer to cut the ignition as it shifts.
Not sure I could build one, but im sure there are folk
around who could ?

Just a thought.....

Tony.J.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 06:03 PM
Im 100% sure i cant build one. maybe someone here can, i think id prefer the electrikery one so i dont have to worry about air tanks and compressors. Any offers?
ozkat
15-04-2006, 06:03 PM
Im 100% sure i cant build one. maybe someone here can, i think id prefer the electrikery one so i dont have to worry about air tanks and compressors. Any offers?
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 06:04 PM
Mate, Im doing the same thing....over the past few months Ive spoke with heaps of blokes with differing opinions.... The only thing sensible I understand is that most of electric shifters ( on the market) have smaller diameter shift rods, and some are good for about 200hp. Airshifters ( pingle etc)on the market have larger diameter shift rods and are good for however much hp you can afford....

All this said, I can only just get my head around the theory.... energy pushed through the gear shift parts during full throttle changes tend to break light weight shit!!

I would prefer a electric shifter.... but, Ive been warned against it....

As per Tonys reply, I think it would not be too difficult to bulid one that would be up to the task.
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 06:04 PM
Mate, Im doing the same thing....over the past few months Ive spoke with heaps of blokes with differing opinions.... The only thing sensible I understand is that most of electric shifters ( on the market) have smaller diameter shift rods, and some are good for about 200hp. Airshifters ( pingle etc)on the market have larger diameter shift rods and are good for however much hp you can afford....

All this said, I can only just get my head around the theory.... energy pushed through the gear shift parts during full throttle changes tend to break light weight shit!!

I would prefer a electric shifter.... but, Ive been warned against it....

As per Tonys reply, I think it would not be too difficult to bulid one that would be up to the task.
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 06:11 PM
I just checked out that Holeshot shifter..... looks good... just might do the trick..

Upshift only ? thats all you need for the strip.
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 06:11 PM
I just checked out that Holeshot shifter..... looks good... just might do the trick..

Upshift only ? thats all you need for the strip.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 07:30 PM
$646.00 Aussie rubles, seems a little rich but if its good quality and reasonably easy to sort maybe it isnt too bad. If it saves you 0.3sec or 0.5sec its money well spent.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 07:30 PM
$646.00 Aussie rubles, seems a little rich but if its good quality and reasonably easy to sort maybe it isnt too bad. If it saves you 0.3sec or 0.5sec its money well spent.
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 07:42 PM
Sorry, Should have also said....
"Thats a very old link"

Check out....
http://www.holeshot.com/

Tony.J.
Tony Nitrous
15-04-2006, 07:42 PM
Sorry, Should have also said....
"Thats a very old link"

Check out....
http://www.holeshot.com/

Tony.J.
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 10:01 PM
A Co2,pingle air shifter is around 1000 bucks.... I think I will try the holeshot....

Does any one know anyone that has seen,used, or has a holeshot shifter?
NakedTurboBusa
15-04-2006, 10:01 PM
A Co2,pingle air shifter is around 1000 bucks.... I think I will try the holeshot....

Does any one know anyone that has seen,used, or has a holeshot shifter?
Large
15-04-2006, 10:40 PM
I reckon BigToe(MkI) is the fast way home.

P.S. Saw a Hyabusa run consecutive 7.9 second quarters today, with no wheelie bars. But he did have an air shifter.
Large
15-04-2006, 10:40 PM
I reckon BigToe(MkI) is the fast way home.

P.S. Saw a Hyabusa run consecutive 7.9 second quarters today, with no wheelie bars. But he did have an air shifter.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 10:58 PM
That would be Leonard, Large. Have a look here http://www.australiandragbike.com.au but you proberly allready know about it.
ozkat
15-04-2006, 10:58 PM
That would be Leonard, Large. Have a look here http://www.australiandragbike.com.au but you proberly allready know about it.
Rich
15-04-2006, 11:34 PM
Word on the Australian Hayabusa site is that Leonard did a run of 7.88 today.

Cheers Rich
Rich
15-04-2006, 11:34 PM
Word on the Australian Hayabusa site is that Leonard did a run of 7.88 today.

Cheers Rich
NakedTurboBusa
16-04-2006, 01:50 AM
Thats his PB I think.... He works sooooo hard at it..Im glad its all finally paid off, Well done Leonard and family team!!!
NakedTurboBusa
16-04-2006, 01:50 AM
Thats his PB I think.... He works sooooo hard at it..Im glad its all finally paid off, Well done Leonard and family team!!!
Large
16-04-2006, 07:51 AM
He must have gone even quicker after I left.

Oz, I know Leonard, that's who I bought the Kat off. He's a nice bloke...didn't complain about me pestering him about the Kat while he was doing setup for his next pass.
Large
16-04-2006, 07:51 AM
He must have gone even quicker after I left.

Oz, I know Leonard, that's who I bought the Kat off. He's a nice bloke...didn't complain about me pestering him about the Kat while he was doing setup for his next pass.
Captaintoc
16-04-2006, 10:23 AM
Umm this is on ebay but looks to be incomplete you have to ask him

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-YAMAHA-HONDA-ETC-QUICK-GEAR-SHIFTER-IGNITION-BOX_W0QQitemZ4630546046QQcategoryZ35232QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Have A look
Andrew
Captaintoc
16-04-2006, 10:23 AM
Umm this is on ebay but looks to be incomplete you have to ask him

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-YAMAHA-HONDA-ETC-QUICK-GEAR-SHIFTER-IGNITION-BOX_W0QQitemZ4630546046QQcategoryZ35232QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Have A look
Andrew
boogieman76
16-04-2006, 11:01 AM
I had a play a couple of years ago at making an electric shifter, I came unstuck with the timing of the ignition cut. At the time I could only come up with a small programmable computer that cost a couple of hundred dollars. Extremely adjustable and would have worked perfect but very delicate so it all stopped. I was using a starter motor solenoid with a pull action. can't remember what it was off but your local auto eleccy would help. The solenoids are more than strong enough and with that ignition cut from ebay would work a treat.
Hey Ozkat you have an email from me.
Cheers
boogieman76
16-04-2006, 11:01 AM
I had a play a couple of years ago at making an electric shifter, I came unstuck with the timing of the ignition cut. At the time I could only come up with a small programmable computer that cost a couple of hundred dollars. Extremely adjustable and would have worked perfect but very delicate so it all stopped. I was using a starter motor solenoid with a pull action. can't remember what it was off but your local auto eleccy would help. The solenoids are more than strong enough and with that ignition cut from ebay would work a treat.
Hey Ozkat you have an email from me.
Cheers
WHO-NIN
19-04-2006, 12:34 AM
A local perth guy uses a twin ram air shift setup on his street bike to change up and down gears (i think coz his foot/ankle is stuffed ???)
got a short demo clip of it in use but 15.8 meg clip......apparently he sells them to!
:)
WHO-NIN
19-04-2006, 12:34 AM
A local perth guy uses a twin ram air shift setup on his street bike to change up and down gears (i think coz his foot/ankle is stuffed ???)
got a short demo clip of it in use but 15.8 meg clip......apparently he sells them to!
:)