Is this an easy Fixer-Upper??

[fimpBIKES]

hi

found this on bikepoint and my brother wants something to take up the coast
is it good?
what kind of power output should i expect?
anyone know how to fix the starter clutch? or have a spare?

http://bikepoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=1536440&TabID=3424&Alias=bikepointau


thanks, dont worry suzi fans
its not a twin so i wont be turning anytime soon :D

[Benz]

Remove engine from frame,remove clutch assembly:( [oh yeah, thats fun,make sure you have a GOOD rattle gun]remove sump,slide out secondary shaft, the starterclutch and primary drive, and oil pump drives are mounted on this,[from memory] fix whatever is wrong with starterclutch, and reassemble. Sounds easy eh?
My guess is around 75-80hp,with 18" skinny/heavy rims, and mediochre suspension, you'd be better off spending your 1500 on something that doesn't need interior engine work IMHO. :D
You could get a slabby for that kind of money, you'd have a better allround bike too.....:)

[Benz]

Remove engine from frame,remove clutch assembly:( [oh yeah, thats fun,make sure you have a GOOD rattle gun]remove sump,slide out secondary shaft, the starterclutch and primary drive, and oil pump drives are mounted on this,[from memory] fix whatever is wrong with starterclutch, and reassemble. Sounds easy eh?
My guess is around 75-80hp,with 18" skinny/heavy rims, and mediochre suspension, you'd be better off spending your 1500 on something that doesn't need interior engine work IMHO. :D
You could get a slabby for that kind of money, you'd have a better allround bike too.....:)

[fimpBIKES]

where, where???

i dont want anything too crazy, he isnt too experienced
i think his budget was about under 3 grand

[fimpBIKES]

where, where???

i dont want anything too crazy, he isnt too experienced
i think his budget was about under 3 grand

[fimpBIKES]

is this better u think?

http://bikepoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=1144297&TabID=3424&Alias=bikepointau
might go test ride it anyways ;)

[fimpBIKES]

is this better u think?

http://bikepoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=1144297&TabID=3424&Alias=bikepointau
might go test ride it anyways ;)

[TurboKat]

I reckon that'd be a GREAT starting point, you'd probly get it for $1200 & for less than $2k you'd have a cheap 'fighter that's not just another GSXR [:0]
Just don't expect it to keep up with modern stuff in terms of suspension, power, brakes, etc. but they were really comfy things to ride :)
I say go with it.

[TurboKat]

I reckon that'd be a GREAT starting point, you'd probly get it for $1200 & for less than $2k you'd have a cheap 'fighter that's not just another GSXR [:0]
Just don't expect it to keep up with modern stuff in terms of suspension, power, brakes, etc. but they were really comfy things to ride :)
I say go with it.

[fimpBIKES]

which one? the 750 kat or the first one?

that first one needs a blueslip too, can be hard to get for custom bikes in newy...
whould probably end up costing more to get on road than the 750kat

my bro is more of a poser really, and i dont want him having too much power under his ass

[fimpBIKES]

which one? the 750 kat or the first one?

that first one needs a blueslip too, can be hard to get for custom bikes in newy...
whould probably end up costing more to get on road than the 750kat

my bro is more of a poser really, and i dont want him having too much power under his ass

[TurboKat]

[quote]Originally posted by fimpBIKES

which one? the 750 kat or the first one?

The GeePeeZee

my bro is more of a poser really, and i dont want him having too much power under his ass


Get him a Harley then :)

[TurboKat]

[quote]Originally posted by fimpBIKES

which one? the 750 kat or the first one?

The GeePeeZee

my bro is more of a poser really, and i dont want him having too much power under his ass


Get him a Harley then :)

RGV's are cheap on Ebay,1 of them should leave a stain in his pants for around $2000

RGV's are cheap on Ebay,1 of them should leave a stain in his pants for around $2000

[fimpBIKES]

rgv's are sweet, but not ideal for him to cruise up the coast on!!!

i might see if i can tee up an inspection of the GPZ sometime on the weekend if he liked it (sent him a link last night)

[fimpBIKES]

rgv's are sweet, but not ideal for him to cruise up the coast on!!!

i might see if i can tee up an inspection of the GPZ sometime on the weekend if he liked it (sent him a link last night)

[fimpBIKES]

im heading over to test ride the 750 kat this afternoon (they indicated on the phone that they might budge a little on the price ;))

are there any noises etc i should listen for on the test-ride with the kat's??
never ridden one, and they say the workshop has given it the thunbes up so i think it should
be ok

[fimpBIKES]

im heading over to test ride the 750 kat this afternoon (they indicated on the phone that they might budge a little on the price ;))

are there any noises etc i should listen for on the test-ride with the kat's??
never ridden one, and they say the workshop has given it the thunbes up so i think it should
be ok

I got rid of a GPz750A5 about 18 months ago, great bike, go hard without going ballistic, handling is actually pretty good, theyr'e comfortable for the long haul, and easy to maintain. Check for rattles associated with the primary drive chain if the clutch is an issue, replacing it is a complete engine pull down.
I still have the factory manual if you want, can bring it to the run.

With the Kat you want to check the electrics for any dodgy work, and any funny effects on the headlight when you give it a good rev (indicates a dodgy Rotor|alternator). Also listen for any engine noises around the clutch area, a lot of them develop a rattle in the backing plate which should disappear when you pull in the clutch, if it doesn't then there could be other serious problems. Check the gears, do a hard run through, 2nd gear selelctors are a known issue. Check the pop-up headlight operation, they're all getting old now and they can be expensive to repair.

I got rid of a GPz750A5 about 18 months ago, great bike, go hard without going ballistic, handling is actually pretty good, theyr'e comfortable for the long haul, and easy to maintain. Check for rattles associated with the primary drive chain if the clutch is an issue, replacing it is a complete engine pull down.
I still have the factory manual if you want, can bring it to the run.

With the Kat you want to check the electrics for any dodgy work, and any funny effects on the headlight when you give it a good rev (indicates a dodgy Rotor|alternator). Also listen for any engine noises around the clutch area, a lot of them develop a rattle in the backing plate which should disappear when you pull in the clutch, if it doesn't then there could be other serious problems. Check the gears, do a hard run through, 2nd gear selelctors are a known issue. Check the pop-up headlight operation, they're all getting old now and they can be expensive to repair.

[chopaweeza]

The starter clutch is a common fault in the 650 and 750 Z/GPZ models. So common in fact it's almost impossible to get a used one that isn't cracked. If you can get one then it's a 4 hour job that doesn't require the engine to be removed from the frame. I've done it on numerous occasions and it's straight forward. They aren't repairable either. They crack on the outer casing where the rubbers lodge and the metal is thinest. It's usually only a hairline crack but thats all it takes. It is a design fault . When Kawasaki helped the new Hinchley Triumph engineers design their first motors they based them on the GPZ engine. As a result Triumph water cooled triples up til 1995 had dodgy starter clutches which required a redesign to correct.

[chopaweeza]

The starter clutch is a common fault in the 650 and 750 Z/GPZ models. So common in fact it's almost impossible to get a used one that isn't cracked. If you can get one then it's a 4 hour job that doesn't require the engine to be removed from the frame. I've done it on numerous occasions and it's straight forward. They aren't repairable either. They crack on the outer casing where the rubbers lodge and the metal is thinest. It's usually only a hairline crack but thats all it takes. It is a design fault . When Kawasaki helped the new Hinchley Triumph engineers design their first motors they based them on the GPZ engine. As a result Triumph water cooled triples up til 1995 had dodgy starter clutches which required a redesign to correct.

[clairebear]

i fort for a moment you were talking about a rg500 there Davo, i was scared for the poor bugger :-)

[clairebear]

i fort for a moment you were talking about a rg500 there Davo, i was scared for the poor bugger :-)

[fimpBIKES]

wouldnt trust MYSELF with an RG500!!!! [xx(]

passed up the gpz (although if its still for sale in a few weeks i might offer him half of his advertised price :D)
went and test rode the kat this arvo, the thing is brand bloody new!!! (8000km on the clock, for what thats worth...)
no notable wear on anything, still original paint (few scuffs but meh...ITS 20yr OLD!)

it rode really nicely, few hard runs up a back street at
um, 50k an hour (promise ;))

not as much kick as the SV, which is good cos i dont want my brother getting any surprises

had a brand new front tyre and rego til july 30
talked em down to $3200 and left a deposit!!!

loverly bike

pop-up works fine too, no jerks or bad noises
stand gets in the way of the shifter (bloody old bikes![B)]) but he'll get used to it
steering is light probably due to the little 130section rear tyre so that'll suit him too

im kinda hoping he gets bored of it so i can buy it (7/11?? [:p])

[fimpBIKES]

wouldnt trust MYSELF with an RG500!!!! [xx(]

passed up the gpz (although if its still for sale in a few weeks i might offer him half of his advertised price :D)
went and test rode the kat this arvo, the thing is brand bloody new!!! (8000km on the clock, for what thats worth...)
no notable wear on anything, still original paint (few scuffs but meh...ITS 20yr OLD!)

it rode really nicely, few hard runs up a back street at
um, 50k an hour (promise ;))

not as much kick as the SV, which is good cos i dont want my brother getting any surprises

had a brand new front tyre and rego til july 30
talked em down to $3200 and left a deposit!!!

loverly bike

pop-up works fine too, no jerks or bad noises
stand gets in the way of the shifter (bloody old bikes![B)]) but he'll get used to it
steering is light probably due to the little 130section rear tyre so that'll suit him too

im kinda hoping he gets bored of it so i can buy it (7/11?? [:p])

Good score

Good score

[Tony Nitrous]

750 kat would have been my choice out of the 2.
Nice as it is, and a whole world of normal
"what-fits-what-Suzuki" when your bored.
A fat tyred, USD, 1127, Pop-up Kat would be waaaaay cool [8D]

Tony.J.

[Tony Nitrous]

750 kat would have been my choice out of the 2.
Nice as it is, and a whole world of normal
"what-fits-what-Suzuki" when your bored.
A fat tyred, USD, 1127, Pop-up Kat would be waaaaay cool [8D]

Tony.J.

[fimpBIKES]

like i said, i hope he gets bored and sells it, i have the spare USD forks already... :D

[fimpBIKES]

like i said, i hope he gets bored and sells it, i have the spare USD forks already... :D

[Tony Nitrous]

Mate in the Uk (Hi Andy) has had one for Years.
Apart from the normal getting stoned and falling off
in the snow, being pulled for no rego / speeding / bald
tyres etc etc...
The only SUZUKI problem he has had was to burn out a couple
of rectifiers / regulators / generators call them what you will.
Pay ya money, on go's the new one, off you go.
His has had years of abuse and still go's OK.

Tony.J.

[Tony Nitrous]

Mate in the Uk (Hi Andy) has had one for Years.
Apart from the normal getting stoned and falling off
in the snow, being pulled for no rego / speeding / bald
tyres etc etc...
The only SUZUKI problem he has had was to burn out a couple
of rectifiers / regulators / generators call them what you will.
Pay ya money, on go's the new one, off you go.
His has had years of abuse and still go's OK.

Tony.J.

[loosebruce]

not as much kick as the SV?
Not until ya give her the berries (check out where the redline is).
Nice and bulletproof , sounds like a good buy.
I still haven't ridden an RG500 (but I wanna).

[loosebruce]

not as much kick as the SV?
Not until ya give her the berries (check out where the redline is).
Nice and bulletproof , sounds like a good buy.
I still haven't ridden an RG500 (but I wanna).

[fimpBIKES]

i stand by my words bruce

but i shall give her a "proper" try tomorrow just for you ;)

[fimpBIKES]

i stand by my words bruce

but i shall give her a "proper" try tomorrow just for you ;)

[fimpBIKES]

i may stand corrected!!

"The 1984 year's GSX750SE was a completely new model, not just a facelift. It was designed by Suzuki engineers in Japan but it still kept the original Hans Muth lines. The engine had been replaced by the new oil-cooled 16-valve unit from the GSX750E/ES/EF, and developed 90 unrestricted bhp. It had the Suzuki Full Floater suspension rear end and Positive Damping Forks at the front. Probably the most noticeable of all however was the new fairing which now had a retractable (pop-up) headlight which helped give it an even sharper front end than the previous models.

The frame and parts of the wheels were colored gold and the black painted engine had also gold paint on the cam end covers and engine sides. For domestic market in Japan, the model code was GSX750S-3. The Japanese model had 77 hp/ 9.000 rpm, 63 Nm (6,4 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.

GSX 750 S Katana 1984
Overall Length: 2 190 mm (86.2 in)
Overall Width: 760 mm (29.9 in)
Overall Height: 1 160 mm (45.7 in)
Seat Height: 770 mm (30.3 in)
Ground Clearance: 150 mm (5.9 in)
Wheelbase: 1 510 mm (59.4 in)
Dry Weight: 212 kg (470 lbs)
Engine type: Air/oil-cooled 747 cc inline-4, DOHC, TSCC, 16 valves. 90 hp (66 kW)/ 9,500 rpm, 67,5 Nm/ 8,500 rpm. "

[fimpBIKES]

i may stand corrected!!

"The 1984 year's GSX750SE was a completely new model, not just a facelift. It was designed by Suzuki engineers in Japan but it still kept the original Hans Muth lines. The engine had been replaced by the new oil-cooled 16-valve unit from the GSX750E/ES/EF, and developed 90 unrestricted bhp. It had the Suzuki Full Floater suspension rear end and Positive Damping Forks at the front. Probably the most noticeable of all however was the new fairing which now had a retractable (pop-up) headlight which helped give it an even sharper front end than the previous models.

The frame and parts of the wheels were colored gold and the black painted engine had also gold paint on the cam end covers and engine sides. For domestic market in Japan, the model code was GSX750S-3. The Japanese model had 77 hp/ 9.000 rpm, 63 Nm (6,4 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.

GSX 750 S Katana 1984
Overall Length: 2 190 mm (86.2 in)
Overall Width: 760 mm (29.9 in)
Overall Height: 1 160 mm (45.7 in)
Seat Height: 770 mm (30.3 in)
Ground Clearance: 150 mm (5.9 in)
Wheelbase: 1 510 mm (59.4 in)
Dry Weight: 212 kg (470 lbs)
Engine type: Air/oil-cooled 747 cc inline-4, DOHC, TSCC, 16 valves. 90 hp (66 kW)/ 9,500 rpm, 67,5 Nm/ 8,500 rpm. "