Alfie's Deliverance project bike now parting out

[alfiestorm]

I will start off with showing the bike now named deliverance and the collection of parts I have ready to use on it.
It has a 1216cc kit, 12.5 pistons, WEBB cams, APE springs, retainers and cam wheels, kibblewhite valves, flowed head, 38 mikunis, full Dynatek adjustable CDI and ignition, Ohlins front and rear and heavy duty clutch.

The bike

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589076092.JPG

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/99866935146686.jpg


The dash with out the trumpy bit

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589011338.jpg


Bikini twin headlamp fairing

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589026206.jpg



Dog bones

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589012509.JPG


Renthals

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589018118.JPG



Six pots

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589015960.JPG


Tank decals

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589017041.JPG


Swingarm

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589029898.jpg


Tail

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/54580589017332.JPG


I thought I had a new gearbox but it turned out to be for the 750 so I sold that off and will hopefully have a bandit1200 gearbox soon
Parts taken off the bike will be up for sale.

bandit 1200 gearbox cost me £30 or au$73 a bargain
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/75435948823762.JPG


And one of these on the way
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/7896344543520.jpg


And now these
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/99866989561839.jpg


Thats it for now


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[cavey]

Allright Alf, is that a srad arm, I think I see that on ebay no? Not sure about your seat! I like the but though. When r you due in oz?

[zx12argh]

Oooh one of my favorite parts of a build is the start... The anticipation, the plans, the dreams, the ideas.
My next favorite part is the finished it, turn the key and go for the first ride - big grin wheel, in the air doing 3 times the legal speed limit just cause the bike is so damn sweet.

I hate everything in between - its all fucken shit bollocks why wont this fucking fit shit ow my fucking knuckles grrr

Then again when something works during the build and works well thats pretty good too. :D

Cant wait to see where you end up with this puppy mate.

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by cavey

Allright Alf, is that a srad arm, I think I see that on ebay no? Not sure about your seat! I like the but though. When r you due in oz?


Ah yes that was my first thoughts about the seat, being used to seeing very slim wasp like backends and very nice they are too,
This bike is going to be a 70's meets 90's retro but with modern day ideas so what that means is the backend is going to be kicked up a bit so the saddle is not going to be in the flat as a board position normally associated with this type of saddle.
If it turns out how i see it in my mind it's gonna have that wow thats fuckin different factor in a sort of modern day mad max styley.

Yeah the arm is an srad item I got off of egay I have degreased it ready to be powder coated satin black.

I am due into Adelaide around the 20-04-07 give or take a few days:D

[Gix11]

Now this I have to see. The whole saet thing is what got me as well as I remember how big my 650 seat was. The shear depth will make it a nightmare to match up with the tank, but you sound as though you have it under control Stu. Very interested to see it happen.

[exile]

Alfie the Z 3/4 seats and Z butt are the bollox m8 [8D] I can see exactlly what and where your coming from dude, ive got a vision of DODGE'S GS and also 7/11 back in the day with a CG125 seat unit jacked way up.......top bombing :D

[cavey]

Alf, will that arm slot straight in? very short, like! Still not sure about the seat, I'll look forward to seeing your vision!

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by cavey

Alf, will that arm slot straight in? very short, like! Still not sure about the seat, I'll look forward to seeing your vision!


The arm will slot straight in, both the srad and slingshots are 225mm wide at the pivot point.
It's 60mm shorter than an 1100 slingshot so that should make it about 20mm shorter than the 750 slingshot arm which will make things very interesting indeed and will add to the look I am after. :)

[WATEVR]

gotta love a plan and the fact that any reasonable suzuki is super with the aid of kwaka parts!!!!(calipers if im right?)

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by WATEVR

gotta love a plan and the fact that any reasonable suzuki is super with the aid of kwaka parts!!!!(calipers if im right?)


mixing the two best makes of bike on the planet.
The calipers are/were used by Suzuki and Kawasaki on some of their production bikes and both manufactures share technical data with each other or they used to dont know if they still do. :)

[WATEVR]

i knew they did with dirt bike stuff a couple of years ago when it all went 4 stroke again. but dunno if it still goes on.

[cavey]

I think mes gunna be watching for a srad arm now, thats gunna look cool tor not much wonga. Cheers alf.

[cutcat]

Well I'm impressed already Stu. She couldn't be going to a better home. The beauty of Streetfighters is making them original or unique and you will certainly be doing that. I never had the balls to strip her down and fighter it. I guess I already had the ZX6/12 as my fighter toy.
Looking foward to catching up real soon.

[alfiestorm]

11 days and I will be in Adelaide.
It should be another two weeks max and I will have a rented house with a garage, get the bike from cutcat and then let the bike surgery begin.

Cant bloody wait I tell ya :)

[WATEVR]

it will be good to meet u when you get here mate and see the work start on your fighter. and also have another set of hands and ideas for my rebuild which will start in a month or so!!!

[madmaxman1986]

nice tail alf;)(I had my subframe cleaned up, pics soon!)
That swingarm looks badass!

[cutcat]

Hey Chris, we should all catch up at Alfies for a beer or 20 when I drop her off.
I can just imagine the bullshit flowing after a few cold ones!

[alfiestorm]

sounds good to me chaps

[WATEVR]

oh shit if i have too!!

[alfiestorm]

cutcat is delivering the bike this Saturday 07-07-07 at around 12/1pm. anyone around the
para hills (northern suburbs) area around that time and day are welcome to stop by for beer and a chinwag and more beer

[pt]

wow 777 isn't that a lucky number????

[alfiestorm]

yeah and I just learn't that I now have a job too whooopeee

[evad]

Congats Alfie, its all coming together:D:D:D

[Jockney Rebel]

alfie nice to hear yer getting it together mate .youll have to give me a bell when all your stuff lands now ive got an old old old resto going there might be some little odds and ends thatll come in handy [anyonre got a set of old trail forks [drum brake pref ]lolol

[alfiestorm]

This is it at the moment partly stripped and waiting for me to take out the engine and change the gearbox and perform a few more trick operations on the engine to add to what has already been done to it.

The frame is going to recieve some attention as well :)

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/78963445471766.jpg

[oldskool]

She has all her bumps in the right places

[Iceman]

That gotta be the cleanest set of white wheels I've ever seen!

[oldskool]

Very clean, hi ice

[Iceman]

G'day Dylan, long time no see.

[oldskool]

My gix is in very little peaces at the mo gettin a makeover upside downs 17in wheels and a 1147 big bore, yippee just as oldskool but fuck loads more fun

[alfiestorm]

And if dave with the max from england visits this page heres a big hello mate and get yer arse over here for some beer time :)

stu

Oh yeah ice them there wheels is going matt black mate fuck to keeping them fuckers that clean :D:D

[Jockney Rebel]

alfie did u sell them microns uve got in the container mate ? nice build btw mate might come down to see you lot in the fullness of time on me newie[8D]

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by frankenbiker

alfie did u sell them microns uve got in the container mate ? nice build btw mate might come down to see you lot in the fullness of time on me newie[8D]



At the moment they are all spoken for. I have reposted all the parts asking for every one to confirm they still want the parts or not.

[Docktor]

Damn, I better go find that thread, hangin for a pingel.

[alfiestorm]

work is in progress just waiting for my tools and doing the best i can with what i got

[alfiestorm]

Got all my tools now and on my way to the gearbox and Oh bugga


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321657591.jpg

[cutcat]

That doesn't look good!

[Hillsy]

There's the problem right there Alfie - you should have more then 2 of them.....:D

[Jockney Rebel]

yeah alf mate yer discs have got all them black things on em must play havoc with the pads

[alfiestorm]

nah ya got it all wrong it's me new twin plate slipper clutch ini't

[alfiestorm]

Heres my apprentice fighter builder with the bike

the pic makes the bike look longer than it actually is any comments chaps.
Remember i am building a fighter with 70's 80's meets 90's and crashes into the millenium

I have found with the srad arm the pivot spindle is fatter than the slingshot one.
What would be the best way round it .I was thinking of putting a sleeve in the srad arm or perhaps boring out the pivot holes in the slingshot frame ?

oh yeah and he sub frame rails will be dealt with the back part is already off. I am going to cut shap and then bolt it together to make sure I get it right before getting it welded.

The engine is up on the bench just waiting for my new clutch hub holding tool to arrive.
I can get on with the gearbox then and while I am at it I am going to put a new cam chain and ape cam chain tensioner. If anyone has a ape tensioner for the gixxer engines they no longer require I would be very interested in aquiring it from you

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321693256.jpg

[Phill]

Whats with the WHITE Gloves? riding gloves to match the wheels?
And that poles going to be a problem, the stand needs to be a bit shorter dont you think?



just joking mate
Phill

[alfiestorm]

Sump on it's way off
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321681087.jpg

and found some crunched up bits of thrust washer and half of it which was found in the oil pick up strainer.Explains the gearbox problem thats if it is from the gearbox?
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321689535.jpg


forks before
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321665910.jpg

and forks after
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321671732.jpg


fugured out the swingarm pivolt spindle the answer I think is to use the srad spindle and cut it so it is flush with the sides of the srad arm and bore out the srad spindle so the slingshot spindle will slide through the srad one now being used as a sleeve. all the measurment work out.
The wheel spindle will have some sleeves made up for the spindle slots as the srad slots are fatter than the slingshot spindle

[Deano]

best off getting new bushes made mate

when putting one bush inside another you can run the problem of the centre spacer not seperating both the bushes properly.

i have supplied bushes in a hardned and ground bearing material in deminsions nominaited, mosly for dirt bikes as they wear out quicker and cost a small fortune genuine.

[alfiestorm]

if I run into any probs deano I will give ya a shout mate.

[zx12argh]

quote:Originally posted by alfiestorm

Sump on it's way off
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/96128321681087.jpg



Glad to see you got some of those midget slaves working for you alf ;)

[RUSS M8]

hmm, all those bits in the sump don't look so good [:0]

at least you will get it all sorted, like the look of the chassis so far, reckon those SRAD arms are cool :)

[pt]

get that kid into some sunshine and out of the garage[:p]! he's been stuck in england long enough, he needs to see the australian sun! (it's GREAT for vitamin D[^])

Fuck me that little Pom is almost whiter than the wheels.

I'd hate to see how fucken pale an old bastard like you is Alfie. :D

[alfiestorm]

The bandit gearbox i brought with me from the uk is now fitted along with a new camchain and APE manual tensioner:).

A word of advice the bandit 12 layshaft is 4mm shorter than the ones fitted to the gixxer1127:(. I had to swap all the gears from the bandit layshaft to the gixxer one[8D].

The seat has arrived so i can set to work on the chassis soon[:p]

[alfiestorm]

Chalk you have such a way with words. How ya doing ya fat twat:D you ain't been around for a while you been givin it to them pollies up the shitter

[alfiestorm]

Back to the shed I have a fighter to build

Yer a fuggen poet ain't ya mate.

My last contract was a serious pain in the ass. Took up all me time. But I'm a bum again for the moment, so I thought I'd better come wake you tits up. :D

[Watto]

G'day Stu

comin along alright mate

When u fitted the srad swingarm, r u still able to use the original gixxer shock/rocker with the srad arm

Reason for the question, is I have a bare srad swingarm with no rocker/shock and wondering if possible to combine the two - that is use the old rocker/shock from original slingy swingarm onto the srad arm

If no good I'll need to be sourcing a rocker and shock to suit

Cheers Watto

[alfiestorm]

I am in the shed tonight so I will check to make sure but i think you can use the slingshot suspension rocker arm. I'll let you know for sure later today.

[alfiestorm]

Right then been in the garage and tried all combinations srad suspension linkages then slingshot linkages and a mix of both and I am sorry to say none will fit without some modifications. Ah the joys of fighter building.

Just goes to show no matter how much measuring you do and things look like they will fit along comes reality and kicks ya in the nutz.

I look upon this as a chalange to be conquered and the results will be published on here as soon as a fix is found.

[WATEVR]

good to here its all coming along mate hiccups and all!! i will try and catch up with you soon.

[alfiestorm]

the problem is the space for the shock to pass through on the srad arm is much smaller than on a slingshot arm.
To make this fit is going to involve new suspension rocker arm made and dog bones plus a shorter shock or weld in a new top shock mount into the frame.

My other easier option is to brace and shorten the slingshot arm so I can keep the look I am after, which is what I am going to do and save a shitload of time fucking about with the suspension

[WATEVR]

similar to what i was thinking with the ZX swinger mate just get the original one braced

[alfiestorm]

I am now just waiting for some info from one of the guys on the oss site who has done the srad arm to slingshot change.
It looks like the original plan is back on for now :D

So is this thing gonna squeal like a piggie Alfie?

[Watto]

Stu

have been in touch with dave from OSS and details as follows

quote

Hello buddy, Right then. On the bottom end i used the standard slingy linkage and a slingy shock. I dont have the dims of the top mount anymore [which is a pest] but basically all the top mount does is stand the shock clear of the arm, the sock ends up a little more upright [which is how it is on a K series bike]The best way of finding out exactly were the top pickup needs to be, is to sit the swinger in the bike set at 12 degrees slope. With the bottom linkage sat at the correct [resting] angle [as on the slingy] then quickly knock up some makeshift dogbones to the new required length. Fit the stock top mount and shock with the spring removed.You will nedd someone to help with the next bit. Move the swinger up and down until you have the correct angle on the shock so it clears[again check my pics as the angle is easily judged from them. Then measure from the original pickup hole in the top mount to were the eye of the shock non needs to sit. That is the new mounts dims. On the swingarm spindle front use Ali as its less off a pain to machine. OD is the SRAD spindle OD, ID is the slingy spindle OD overall lentgh is from inside dust cover to inside dust cover on the SRAD arm.
I hope this helps, but if its still a bit unclear dont hesitate to say and i'll try and clear it up a bit for you.
Good luck.
Dave.

unquote

hope this helps mate

looking to do mine in the next couple of weeks

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by chalk10

So is this thing gonna squeal like a piggie Alfie?


Yep it sure does while riding side saddle playing the banjo with my sister norman :D

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by Watto

Stu

have been in touch with dave from OSS and details as follows

quote

Hello buddy, Right then. On the bottom end i used the standard slingy linkage and a slingy shock. I dont have the dims of the top mount anymore [which is a pest] but basically all the top mount does is stand the shock clear of the arm, the sock ends up a little more upright [which is how it is on a K series bike]The best way of finding out exactly were the top pickup needs to be, is to sit the swinger in the bike set at 12 degrees slope. With the bottom linkage sat at the correct [resting] angle [as on the slingy] then quickly knock up some makeshift dogbones to the new required length. Fit the stock top mount and shock with the spring removed.You will nedd someone to help with the next bit. Move the swinger up and down until you have the correct angle on the shock so it clears[again check my pics as the angle is easily judged from them. Then measure from the original pickup hole in the top mount to were the eye of the shock non needs to sit. That is the new mounts dims. On the swingarm spindle front use Ali as its less off a pain to machine. OD is the SRAD spindle OD, ID is the slingy spindle OD overall lentgh is from inside dust cover to inside dust cover on the SRAD arm.
I hope this helps, but if its still a bit unclear dont hesitate to say and i'll try and clear it up a bit for you.
Good luck.
Dave.

unquote

hope this helps mate

looking to do mine in the next couple of weeks


Yep that sure does help and is quite obviouse now,
Needed the clues to get the old grey matter working again

quote:Originally posted by alfiestorm


quote:Originally posted by chalk10

So is this thing gonna squeal like a piggie Alfie?


Yep it sure does while riding side saddle playing the banjo with my sister norman :D


I think you shoulda moved to Tassie mate :D

[alfiestorm]

Nah mate they all wear high heels short skirts and smoke cigars and thats just the blokes, the fuggin women will puch yer head off and shit down yer neck. :D

Think i'll just stick to ridin my pig and making it squeel down here in the sunny south

Ah, I see you've already met OzKat "the Tasmanian" then


:D

[alfiestorm]

A spot of highly technical cnc machine work going on with the fighter project today when I was not frolocking in the pool and drinking home brewed beer

seat base reshaping
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371531785.jpg


suspension spacer in the making
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371538845.jpg


suspension spacer having the cnc treatment
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371535390.jpg


Suspension top mount now has a 12mm spacer added
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371525746.jpg


A spot of frame altering
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371528930.jpg


This is the basic rough as fuck idea
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371529972.jpg


and got the rear suspension problem sussed and sorted just got to get some adjustable dog bones

[Jockney Rebel]

kin ell alfie yer lookin more like an aussie evryday......im threatinin to come to the racin next year so iil prob see yer

[alfiestorm]

if ya coming to adelaide for the race frank assume you mean the clipsal your probably going to need somewhere to stay. Theres room here for you the missus and sprog.

I have now mastered the art of home brewing once again "hic"

Fuck, it'll be pissed dodgy pommie sings and bullshit stories all weekend long

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by chalk10

Fuck, it'll be pissed dodgy pommie sings and bullshit stories all weekend long


Your just jelouse? chalk get ya fat arse down here and have some beer then we can have pommie,jockney and kiwi bullshit all at once :D

Have ya decided on what you are geting to replace the geeepeeezeeee with yet chalk, is there any news on the shitheads:( that stole it?

Nah, no news. And there's a couple of options available.

Have heard about a GS1000 which I rather like the idea of. Monoshock 5.5" jacked up rear, wide drag bars minimal dash helmet headlight shell with microlights, GPz front end swingarm and front wheel, z9 style tail unit

[alfiestorm]

quote:Originally posted by chalk10

Nah, no news. And there's a couple of options available.

Have heard about a GS1000 which I rather like the idea of. Monoshock 5.5" jacked up rear, wide drag bars minimal dash helmet headlight shell with microlights, GPz front end swingarm and front wheel, z9 style tail unit


Sounds like a good idea and later fit a gixxer 1100 engine if you want to.
If the gs is going cheaper than cheap thing get it. I used to own a gs1000e years back cant fault them.

Real men's bikes!!


They handle so badly you really haveta man-handle the fuckers through corners :D

[Watto]

hey stu

just seen how your modding the top shock mount - is 12mm all she needed to clear in the srad arm - i thought might have to make a whole new top mount?

cheers watto

[Watto]

hey stu

just seen how your modding the top shock mount - is 12mm all she needed to clear in the srad arm - i thought i might have to make a whole new top mount?

cheers watto

[Blackkat]

hey stu,

will 10mm plate do as i only have that or 20mm?

[Gix11]

Hey Stu. I can see already that this thing is going to be good just from this photo:

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/60549371529972.jpg

Keep it up at this pace mate and we'll be seeing it at the AFR.

[alfiestorm]

Yep 12mm is all that was needed. I have used some alloy plate each plate is 4mm thick so it gives me the option to add more if I need to in 4mm sections either way the problem is fixed.

Just gotta make me some spacers for the slingshot wheel spindle so it dont rattle about in the srad arm adjuster slots.

Yeah Gix the goal is for the bike to be ready for the AFR if for some reason it ain't I still got my R1 and Blade killer :D to use [^]

[cutcat]

Hey Stu, its starting to take shape. Its going to be well worth the wait. Good work.
CC.

[alfiestorm]

Put the new camchain in last night and the APE manual tensioner also done the valve clearences and thats the engine almost done.
Just waiting for the clutch and cover gasket,sump gasket then it is mechanically done.
All that will be left to do to the engine is degrease and paint and a few bling bolts and other bling bits here and there.

I am fitting the sump from a bandit 600 as it has the oil line fittings at the front and they will screw straight in unlike the original sump that was on it which used the banjo type fittings underneath.

I am welding up the redesigned subframe next weekend and getting it finished ready for paint which I am doing myself, hope the paint turns out ok

[alfiestorm]

I managed to weld the sub frame after a few ferk ups :)


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/502511295140446.jpg

[alfiestorm]

Here it is holding it's own arse up with out the need for supports.
Most certainly not the most tidy looking welding jobs but it is good and strong and by the time I have finished it will look ok anyway :D

I have made up some templates for the gap between the seat and tank that will be incorperated into the seat when I retrim the front section.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention I well enjoyed doing the ally welding myself fuckin yeah :):)

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/502511295119457.jpg

[JRW]

certainly not the easiest stuff to weld!

[RUSS M8]

Don't think I've seen a tail quite like that on a slingshot before... very interesting :) Coming along at a good pace by the look of things too alfie :)

[WATEVR]

keep up the ally welding mate caus im gonna need some done soon!!!

[alfiestorm]

I plan on becoming very competent at it and get some better equipment in the not too distant future I hope and if funds allow.

I am using a cheap mig machine I got off of ebay (china special) at the moment, all up it has cost me $450 that was for the machine, Argon gas regulator, Auto darkening helmet and a roll of 0.8 aluminium wire.:)
The gas bottle is courtesy of work while they are not using it.:):).

[zx12argh]

I like that seat Stu- its going to have good support while you have the bike up at 12 oclock :D

[Gix11]

I'm liking that a lot Stu. Love the Z duck tail always and to see it pointing skywards is cool. You're going to have to watch your nuts with that seat angle mate!

[alfiestorm]

Yeah I am quite pleased how the whole seat tank thing turned out :D.
As for the nutz just have to wait and see if it hurts once the new bars and footpeg arrangement are fitted.

[alfiestorm]

that fuggin suspension set up is back again the shock has decided to touch on the srad arm after being fitted up once already.

goiong to have to make a profiled spacer to sort the problem once and for all

[BANDITROD]

lookin good stu that z tail looks sweet and have you been doing a bit of chook chasing mate

[alfiestorm]

yep that's right I am selling the project off. I have lost interest in it and just cannot be bothered to build it I have found riding my gixxer is far better than building a bike and far more fun. I think I will buy a ready built fighter later and make any changes as it is being used.

Everthing is up for sale except the dyna ignition system and oil cooler.

I have just rebuilt the 1216 engine and fitted a bandit 12 gearbox it is sweet[8D]

[alfiestorm]

My home pooter has shit it's self I have to use my bruv's machine and when I am at work when I can.

May be a bit of a delay when answering any questions

[gixxer-fixxer]

but you have a huge workshop,and equipment[:0]

[debaser]

Shame. Could of been a sick fighter.

[latheboy]

Your kidding arnt you ????? If not what sort of dollars would you be looking at for the engine ???? And the Tank ??

[Gix11]

Ahh mate! That's really bad news! I was looking forward to this one. Maybe Geesexar might be interested? Either way someone has to finish it!

[BANDITROD]

shit dude thats bad news i was looking forward to seeing this finished