Dont think it can't/won't happen here

[uncle pervy]

:) been away for awhile, but im back now
see if you can see any comparison between these 10 points and what is happening in aust. today
http://www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html

[xa-mont]

and you couldn't just stay away?

[Shadowzone]

Some interesting points there U.P., however I fully believe in education. Knowledge is power. I tend to disagree with a lot of the leftist ideals as I dislike the "feelgood" or hedonistic approach to life they propose. In order to know joy we must know sorrow.

Still, it has mostly happened here and is too late to change. One only has to look at the Qld laws regarding the issuing of mining leases to see how far our money grubbing pollies have gone and how far they will go in the future to take our land for a profit..

[uncle pervy]

just remember the education system only teaches you what it wants you to know
where does money come from?

no its not too late to change things if enough people speak up and demand answers

[latheboy]

We can only ever learn what the reptilians will let us learn!!

Once the human harvast time comes in 2012 we will finally learn the truth about how humans got to this planet, and how the aliens who live in the hollow earth control the surface, and how we never landed on the moon. And the Nazi UFO base in the Antarctic.

Not to leave out Planet X/Wormwood/Nibiru (which is a massive spaceship) or the pole shift.

The coming of Comet Elenin is opon us so perpare yourselves people... This is just the start.

Don't forgot HAARP, we've got to stop those pricks they are making earthquakes happen and spirals in the sky over Norway...

EVERYONE PANIC

[uncle pervy]

banks and credit companies create money/debt out of think air by a simple bookkeeping entry.
it is illegal for a finacial institution to loan their customers money and they wont loan their own money. so they create your line of credit out of nothing and you give them your hard earned cash. this is standard banking practise throughout the world.
in 1968 the manager of the bank of montgomery in credit river, minnesota explained this to a judge and jury.
as a result the bank was charged with fraud and counterfetting and the judge died 6 months in a fishing boat accident, autopsy results showed the judge's body was full of poison?????

and that is where money/debt comes from
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/113358
http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/bank_fraud/bank_fraud_in_Australia/Fiona_and_Arthur_Cristian/Credit_River_exposed_bank_fraud.htm

they only teach you what they want you to know

[uncle pervy]

on a lighter note.
i went to the westdale sand drags, where by knowing my rights, i stopped the police from the gang crime squad performing an illegal search of my car.
upon being told of the impending search i informed the police officer that a magistrate had ruled in the case of plenty V dillion that the interior of my car was like the interior of my home and police couldn't enter without a warrant. now under LEPRA the law enforcement procedure and regulations act the police have the right to search vehicles if they have reasonable suspicion. however when they are doing blanket searches of each and every vehicle, that is not reasonable suspicion, that is bullying and harrament and as such places them outside their jurisdiction and makes those searches illegal. i then asked to see the police officers I.D. which he didnt have on him, making him no more than a clown in a costume, without any legal authority over me. i am seeking legal advice about what to do with facist policy enforcer, cause i know my grandfather fought in a war to prevent this kind of behaviour

[bladehunter]

HAVE YOU ALL FORGOT MY WARNINGS ABOUT THE PLATES

[uncle pervy]

plates?? i missed that 1

[Surt]

centralisation of all means in the states hands means state capitalism no fuckin socialism or communism no public property they r baits for dead necks same shit everywhere turning a persons into a scew in states machine all the difference is how high developed economics say usa and north korea ministry of agriculture or food board all the same

[Gitzy]

http://brosome.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/128752208246776405.jpg

[Redmohawk]

After your honey moon mate you prob need a rest , let someone else do it lol

[Elapid]

Here we go again............................................. ..........................

[uncle pervy]

the price of freedom is eternal vigilance
you, the sheeple, need looking out for and i am seriously concerned about our future freedoms. if left up to you, we would have none
gitzy. fuck off! just cause you dont want to know the truth, dont bag me. there might be others here who might want to know, even if you dont.
and anyway, im not going away. if you want me to stop posting, get me banned

[latheboy]

So by calling us sheeple you think we'll listen to you? If i want to learn stuff i'll find a way just like you did and everyone else will.

By trying to force it apon us you are sounding just like a religious freak bashing us with a Bible. Why don't you go door knocking?

[uncle pervy]

then wake the fuck up and stop acting like fucking sheep
protect what freedoms we have left and try to regain some of the ones we have lost.
you say thanks to the anzacs and then you let cunts steal the very freedoms they died for.

[Gitzy]

http://www.themadhat.com/images/middle-finger.jpg

http://adscam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bfa1853ef00e553f760178833-300wi

[Redmohawk]

How do you know we are sheep ? You have no idea what I or most of the crew here get up to. You make assumptions that are based on your own reality, this may be far from mine.

I have very strong view's on how the world is heading in regards to your previous posts, and personally still couldnt give a shit. Rules are only set to keep the dumb ones in line, smart people realise how to get around the ones they want to , or just plain break them. Ranting to people in forums like this one is an outlet for you I'm sure, though I doubt it has anything to do with helping anyone.

If people don't see the more obvious injustices in this world going on right in front of there eyes every day (or do but just ignore it) what makes you think you will be able to educate them out of appathy for your pushed views? Or even if they want to be bothered with the information in the first place. I do as I please and your ideals/rules or someone elses matters little to me, I do as I think is right and NO one will stop me. I'm not apathetic or otherwise duped, I just don't give a flying fat fuck about the rules are unless there mine.

[EFE 1230]

quote:Originally posted by uncle pervy

on a lighter note.
i went to the westdale sand drags, where by knowing my rights, i stopped the police from the gang crime squad performing an illegal search of my car.
upon being told of the impending search i informed the police officer that a magistrate had ruled in the case of plenty V dillion that the interior of my car was like the interior of my home and police couldn't enter without a warrant. now under LEPRA the law enforcement procedure and regulations act the police have the right to search vehicles if they have reasonable suspicion. however when they are doing blanket searches of each and every vehicle, that is not reasonable suspicion, that is bullying and harrament and as such places them outside their jurisdiction and makes those searches illegal. i then asked to see the police officers I.D. which he didnt have on him, making him no more than a clown in a costume, without any legal authority over me. i am seeking legal advice about what to do with facist policy enforcer, cause i know my grandfather fought in a war to prevent this kind of behaviour




Cool story brah!

[EFE 1230]

quote:Originally posted by uncle pervy

the price of freedom is eternal vigilance
you, the sheeple, need looking out for and i am seriously concerned about our future freedoms. if left up to you, we would have none
gitzy. fuck off! just cause you dont want to know the truth, dont bag me. there might be others here who might want to know, even if you dont.
and anyway, im not going away. if you want me to stop posting, get me banned



U mad brah?

[EFE 1230]

quote:Originally posted by uncle pervy

then wake the fuck up and stop acting like fucking sheep
protect what freedoms we have left and try to regain some of the ones we have lost.
you say thanks to the anzacs and then you let cunts steal the very freedoms they died for.



U still mad brah?

[uncle pervy]

so red,you willing to back up your claims with actions, or just blindly go along with how the PTB (powers that be) tell you how to live. you willing to get jailed, fined, licence cancelled, whatever. to stand up for your rights. or are you just paying lip service.

yeah efe im mad, im angry and pissed off and i want everyone to get mad, angry and pissed off too. cause if we dont, they win and will eventually control every facet of our lifes and we can only do what they will allow us to do. when they finally pass laws against motorcycles, because motorcycles are dangerous. it will be too late
in the U.S north carolina has passed laws to make naturopathy, homeopathy, ect. illegal. laws funded by pharmalogical corporations, 'cause they are losing money to natural remedies that work.
I think insurance companies would be only to happy to outlaw motorcycles cause of the money it would save them in claims.
but hey. who gives a shit, right?

[uncle pervy]

[quote]Originally posted by Gitzy

http://www.themadhat.com/images/middle-finger.jpg

sit on that and rotate gitzy

[Redmohawk]

You only get jailed if your dumb, Plenty of examples of that walking the streets of down town butt fuck.

My life is my proof of my actions, those that know me know this.

[Gitzy]

Lol.. Your a wanker on so many levels dude.. I'm chilling out watching my 52" plasma on me b'day with me beautiful bike part buying wife, I'll go to my excellent job tomorrow get paid for a solid week hard work, pay my taxes, ride one of the 3 bikes in the shed which I pay ridiculous rego costs and enjoy my life entertaining ASF with lots of bike info and pics contributing the best I can, and no-one really has an impact on that, I am an insignificant little ant in this world and I enjoy my life the best I can..

Your no different than some religious nut rambling and forcing there views on others, you contribute nothing but annoyance and someone to argue with on these pages with your rants and dribble..

Your a CLOWN [:o)]

[uncle pervy]

red. is thats why you conform to the restrictions they place on your bike, even though the mods you want to make dont make your bike unsafe. you wear a helmet? would you if you didn't have to or could get a helmet exemption. if they decided that you must wear body armour to ride a bike, even if it caused your body to overheat and you had to ride with your jacket open to try and cool down a bit. would you? (remember these are just examples)what say you red? am i right?
you only get jailed if your dumb. so following whatever the PTB say is smart, even if its wrong. say goodbye to your rights red, your a sheep or do you only break the law in private. sounds like lip service to me

[uncle pervy]

what i meant to say in my previous post is

so your not willing fight for what you think is right and bear the consequences cause only the dumb go to jail

baaa

[uncle pervy]

[quote]Originally posted by Gitzy

Lol.. Your a wanker on so many levels dude.. I'm chilling out watching my 52" plasma on me b'day with me beautiful bike part buying wife, I'll go to my excellent job tomorrow get paid for a solid week hard work, pay my taxes, ride one of the 3 bikes in the shed which I pay ridiculous rego costs and enjoy my life entertaining ASF with lots of bike info and pics contributing the best I can, and no-one really has an impact on that, I am an insignificant little ant in this world and I enjoy my life the best I can..


well Happy b/day to you (seriously). those taxes you pay? this year aust is giving away 1.6 billion dollars in forien aid while we are taxed with an increase in the medicare levy to pay for the 22 million the govt gave Qld for the floods. the ridiculous rego costs, you trying to do anything about that or just copping sweet. how much raping will you take before you say enough is enough. or are content to watch the crap they put on tv and dvd to lull you while they rape and rob you blind. 30 years ago dual income families were not the norm, cause they didnt have to be in order to pay the risng taxes

[Redmohawk]

Following a rule or two doesnt make one a sheep, laws like bike helmets are common sence if someone wants to ride and not wear one good luck to them I say but they wont be using the medical system in place. Agian and for the last time , you have no idea who I am or what I do so HOW DO YOU KNOW ? Your constantly making the dumbest of assumptions.

Agreed Gitzy , it isn't often I decide someone isn't worth talking to.

[Hillsy]

At least pervy gives us some light entertainment. I'd even consider paying more taxes just to have the right to read his dribble.......

That should fuck with your tin hat mate :D

[sen]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/popcorn_1.gif

[K6Thou]

UP you been reading Orwell lately ?

[Elapid]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy


That should fuck with your tin hat mate :D


The tin hat is on a bit too tight I think.

[rock hard]

fuck sake pervy, stop givin these boys the wind up.are you that bored..

[uncle pervy]

the bike helmet thing was an example, its common sense to wear one not just cause they tell you to. ok so it was a poor example, but you know what i meant
all i know about you is your name redmohawk, which to me signifies a punk anarchist, but you dont sound like much of an anarchist, more of a conformist. and as for breaking laws you dont agree with, well i dont advocate criminal activity, thats a pathway to jail and as you say jails for dummy's. breaking laws dont change laws. only a loud public voice can change laws.
K6thou no i aint read orwell lately, just the existing laws.
and im finding ways around them, why do you think i told you about my adventure's with the gang crime squad.

[Buggzz]

How did you end up with the nic of Uncle Pervy considering you are not the first to have claimed it in the bike world?

[g man]

good call gitzy i second that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[uncle pervy]

buggzz i needed a nic and since im a cheech and chong fan, i chose that
besides im an amateur pornographer

[Jed]

quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

Lol.. Your a wanker on so many levels dude.. I'm chilling out watching my 52" plasma on me b'day with me beautiful bike part buying wife, I'll go to my excellent job tomorrow get paid for a solid week hard work, pay my taxes, ride one of the 3 bikes in the shed which I pay ridiculous rego costs and enjoy my life entertaining ASF with lots of bike info and pics contributing the best I can, and no-one really has an impact on that, I am an insignificant little ant in this world and I enjoy my life the best I can..

Your no different than some religious nut rambling and forcing there views on others, you contribute nothing but annoyance and someone to argue with on these pages with your rants and dribble..

Your a CLOWN [:o)]


Amen Gitzy.

How the Fuck did a motorcycle forum turn into a soap box for this political propaganda dribble[V]

Geez, get back out in your shed and tinker on your bike and stop sniffing that friggen glue. And enjoy the life we have been given.

[80s freak]

Helmets are NOT a common sense item. I wear a helmet out of fear, and so does anyone that wears one. A fear that is instilled in us at a very early age by sentences like "Take care" "don't hurt yourself." those sorts of things, There are a few people who I know that have been road riding for more than 40 years, that in all that time have not had a single accident. So out of a instilled fear they have spent a considerable amount of money on helmets that they never needed. The only thing worse than over enthusiastic law makers is over enthusiastic-the worlds out to get you-unintelligent clowns, who use fear mungering to try and make others believe what they wish was the truth.
Where do you get your information Pervy? How do you know that you are reading the truth and not just some spin made up to brain wash the stupid people? And who the fuck are the "powers that be"? Surely a man of your self promoted wisdom doesn't believe the country is run by a Ranga and her friends.

[Hillsy]

quote:Originally posted by 80s freak

Helmets are NOT a common sense item. I wear a helmet out of fear, and so does anyone that wears one.


Fear of having your head split in half when you fall off your bike sounds like common sense to me. Unless you're after a Darwin award.

[Shadowzone]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy


quote:Originally posted by 80s freak

Helmets are NOT a common sense item. I wear a helmet out of fear, and so does anyone that wears one.


Fear of having your head split in half when you fall off your bike sounds like common sense to me. Unless you're after a Darwin award.


Helmets are fine for high speed incidents/impacts but in low speed accidents can cause more harm than good.

I probably wouldn't be bothered wearing one everytime i rode were they not compulsory, but I've also run through the NT sans lid and loved it. I will note however when scratching through the hills I would never ever contemplate not wearing a lid. I've been saved by a now defunct Shoei in a particularly nasty accident where I slid down the road on my head and wore a hole in the outer shell. If that was my head, well, enough said....

[Redmohawk]

After copping a sparrow at 60 kph to the head on a dirt bike (no helmet off road) I can attest those little fuckers are harder than they look , luckly so is my head lol

[Hillsy]

quote:Originally posted by Shadowzone


Helmets are fine for high speed incidents/impacts but in low speed accidents can cause more harm than good.





Any reference data to support this? Because I haven't seen any.

People have died from falling off their skateboards at low speed and smacking their heads on the footpath, so saying that wearing a helmet is going to do you more harm than good in an accident sounds like crap to me.

[Shadowzone]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy


quote:Originally posted by Shadowzone


Helmets are fine for high speed incidents/impacts but in low speed accidents can cause more harm than good.





Any reference data to support this? Because I haven't seen any.

People have died from falling off their skateboards at low speed and smacking their heads on the footpath, so saying that wearing a helmet is going to do you more harm than good in an accident sounds like crap to me.



Facts OPPOSING Mandatory Helmet Laws
(compiled by ABATE of Delaware, Inc.)

* Department of Transportation tests helmets by a 6-foot vertical drop impacting at 13.66 mph. Even at those low impacts, 52% of all helmets tested by DOT have failed and only one helmet has passed since 1984. (DOT Helmet Test Reports 1974-1980)

* Of the top 12 states with the best motorcycle safety records (fatalities per 10,000 registrations), only one has a helmet law. On the other hand, fully half of the worst safety records are helmet law states. (MSF and Motorcycle Industry Council data from 1986)

* A Kansas Health and Environment report to NHTSA stated "... we have found no evidence that the death rate for motorcycle accidents has increased in Kansas as a result of the repeal of the helmet law. We also have found no such evidence on a national basis."

* "WARNING: No protective head gear can protect the wearer against foreseeable impacts. This helmet is Not designed to provide neck or lower head protection. This helmet exceeds Federal Standard FMVSS218: Even so, death or severe injury may result from impacts at speeds as low as 15 mph while wearing a helmet." (Label inside new helmet, 1990)

* "It is concluded that: 1) motorcycle helmets have no statistically significant effect on probability of fatality, and 2) past a critical impact speed, helmets increase the severity of neck injury." (Dr. Jonathan Goldstein, Bowdoin College)


http://www.usff.com/hldlhome.html

I am searching for the neck injury stats i saw but coming up empty, however this site in the shows a real life example of low speed accidents involving lids causing death.

I'll keep searching for them anyway.

[Redmohawk]

Stats will say anything you want if you know how to ask the right question. Eg (possably) No helmet law state has low injury stats but what isnt mentioned is they also have the lowest number of people per square km and lowest number of motorbike rides in the country etc etc .

Unless you know all the questions/how stats were gathered and how data was collated the paper = will say what the people wanting to write the paper want it to !

One simple statistic over all helmet countrys , when helmets are used non fatal and fatal head injuries as a whole drop significantly.

[Hillsy]

So these "facts" opposing mandatory helmet laws are taken from data that's 30 years old?

I think Redmohawk's got it right.

[Shadowzone]

Of course stats say whatever you want them to.

eg; Our governments tell us that excessive speed is involved in 10% of all fatal accidents. So I as an adult making an educated decision decide to speed because it's NOT involved in 90% of fatal accidents.

Everyone with the capacity to think beyond the normal range of human thought can turn statistics into whatever they want. I mean if I find the data I read that says helmets are responsible for a 30% increase in severe neck injuries which would not otherwise have occurred at low speeds will it matter? because in 70% of cases it isn't so. You have the right to read the data anyway you choose. That's the beauty of being in a country where we're allowed to think for ourselves and speak our thoughts.

[ralph]

quote:Originally posted by Hillsy


quote:Originally posted by 80s freak

Helmets are NOT a common sense item. I wear a helmet out of fear, and so does anyone that wears one.


Fear of having your head split in half when you fall off your bike sounds like common sense to me. Unless you're after a Darwin award.

No such thing as common sense

If common sense was common, It would just be known as sense.
Happy to drop in and clear this thread up a little:D