Chopiesels Official TL1000R Build Thread

[chopiesel]

Its Finally Happening

ok from the start

sent the frame off to Ben for mods

- left side radiator hose hole filled & smoothed
- fairing bracket holes filled
- steering damper mount gone
- batterty box lug gone, 1 remains for overflow bottle mount
- opened and re plated left side to allow for 1/2" offset sprocket for 250 rear tire
- rose joints fitted to gixxer subframe
- rear of subframe removed then strengthened
- left hand side exhuast bracket gone
- air inlets smoothed and rounded

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Swingarm is 2" over with 150mm adjusters JMC item Polished

wheels are carrozzerias 18x8.5 rear 250 avon cobra tyre

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all brake calipers, clutch and brake master cylinders have been chromed and i have billet reservoirs all round that will be polished.
also have polished billet levers and chrome billet grips.
bars are flat drag bars chromed, Tripples not decided on yet.

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i will be using a 04 cbr1000rr front gaurd and will be using a 01 gixxer tail ( stilll need to buy a 1 peice race tail )

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frame is fully polished and i have a polished billet clear clutch cover and billet pressure plate and sprocket cover.

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ill most likely be using this dash from dakota digital

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i went to see the guy doing my airbrushing today and decided on what colours im gona be using, its going to be a hot house green base from holden and the airbrushing is going to be in a nice yellowy goldy limy colour from HOK so i painted the motor in the green today, its going to look awesome with all the chrome.

pics soon

[Shadowzone]

Some very nice bling bling bits there Chop.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished..

[chopiesel]

motor in its new green, no clear yet

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[fimpBIKES]

hulk-theme!!!!!! [^]

[chopiesel]

this is the colour incase it isnt obvious

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[xa-mont]

hells yeah man.

That is going to look hella pimp.

[BANDITROD]

looking good chop

[Fight_fan]

Always liked that green! Good stuff mate!

[crazymofo]

bling bling doof doof

nice work

cheers.joe.

[kev@vcm]

green has become the new look for bikes now days , looks good mate love the rims as a hole this bike is going to look kick ass ,

[VFighteR]

me likey =]

[Gitzy]

Love your work Chop, all the shiny bits look awesome.. and the green looks wicked too.

[chopiesel]

iv got the greenest boogers....who said you cant paint 2pak at home..what?

[boris]

love them wheels and that green too albeit is a holden colour I'd love to see that oz flag there still, I may have to think of that as my next theme

[chopiesel]

motor done ready to go back into frame tomorrow arvo

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[fimpBIKES]

you painted the little rubber bits on the rocker cover gasket and all the fasteners as well?

wanna buy my billet oil filter? it'll look sweet with those cases
$50?

[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

you painted the little rubber bits on the rocker cover gasket and all the fasteners as well?

wanna buy my billet oil filter? it'll look sweet with those cases
$50?


sure would [8D]

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[rock hard]

Hey Chop,looking good,painted engine is Cool.should look amazing..cant wait

[chopiesel]

billet starter cover, ill prob leave this with the machined look as a bit of contrast.

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chopper said this was the first clear clutch cover he had ever seen

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[ALBI]

so how did you prep the engine for the 2-pak and what ratio is it 2-1 or 4-1 is it a solid or cob?? love the build mate

[fimpBIKES]

inspection window???

[scotty]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

inspection window???
It still got the tape on it silly[:I]

[chopiesel]

albi, i used a heavy cleaner i got from my old work, its the best degreaser iv ever seen, that and a toothbrush, then i just used normal prepsolve, etch primer, pant and clear is 2:1.

i did not bother rubbing the primer back either.

then two coats of white and 2 coats of colour, then 2 thick coats for clear, but another thicker coat on the leading side of the engine.

had to do a bit of stuffing round with the rearset spacers so the rear brake master would clear the swinger, go it sorted though. i had to space the right side out 10mm further than the left, but the left had been moved out 10mm anyway as a result of the chain releaving work on the frame so now they are even anyway.

i also have to mount the m/cylinder on the outside of the bracket, ill cut a few hex heads short and screw them in from the outside to dress the holes up a bit

you can see the spacer between the brake lever and the bracket

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[oldskool]

How long did it take ya to get the swinger out of those slack rude cunts?

[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by oldskool

How long did it take ya to get the swinger out of those slack rude cunts?


i cant remember exactly, about 6 months i think. i didnt really mind though as i was in no rush. i got it about 18 months ago, he did quote me 3 months though.

[K6Thou]

Looking very [8D]

Nice build.

[chopiesel]

had some pick up knobs lying round so this arvo i turned down the inner bit on the lathe, then i extened my rearset peg bolts 100mm and i now have tyre poppers!!!


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[LKC73]

Hey chop, it is looking really good mate! My bro is on the TL forum and loves it also.

[ALBI]

wat brand rearsets are they ? speedking?
ive never painted an engine in 2k would have thought a solid is the best?
have you ever had probs with cob on engines beofore ?

[chopiesel]

iv painted heaps of car engines with 2k over the years both metalics and solids and never had a prob.

the reasets i got from ratedr 4 years ago, just a generic design but the brackets are thicker/stronger than the really cheap thai ones you can get from ebay.

[Fight_fan]

Lookin good chop!

[Gitzy]

Just curious Chop, but will that paint ever flake off your rubber valve cover seals? or will it possibly tear the surrounding paint if you were to unscrew any of your bolts??

[mozza]

looking tough as mate, can't wait to see more of it. pics pics pics pics pics.

[chopiesel]

gitz over time it might flake off, i painted my gemini motor like this years ago and the same rubbers for the cam bolts lasted 5 years without coming off till i sold the car.

if i have to undo any ill just cut around them with a blade first.

[Gitzy]

Ahhhh.. I gets more edumacated here every day.. :D

[chopiesel]

the front sprocket is just sitting there, its just the standard one, it basically sits flush with the end of the shaft (5/8 offset)
the front sprocket would normally be covered by a standard frame.

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couple more glamour shots

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[chopiesel]

goto figure something out for the rear brake support, the stockers have a bar that runs from the caliper to a mount forward on the swingarm,

im thinking of getting some 20mm round bar and putting rose joints in each end and mounting it to the caliper then on the inside of the swinger, that way i can adjust it as i lengthen or reduce the wheelbase.



anyone see any probs with my idea???

i had it drawn up by an engineer today,

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[chopiesel]

the muffler will be mounted something like this

this is a cut down yoshi can i ran before, not 100% what im going to use here

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[mikey0211]

looking good mate....:)

[kev@vcm]

this bike is transforming the the HULK the end result will be freakin awesome

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by chopiesel

couple more glamour shots

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Those pics look like you've painted/highlighted the frame.[8D]

[LKC73]

Very nice chop, so looking forward to seeing this. Maybe when I come visit the folks, I wouldnt mind having a look mate.

[fimpBIKES]

chop, could you modify the brake caliper carrier to not be able to rotate, horizontal bolts or something (or weld it to the swingarm)?
its not like its a super-high performance build so a little rear brake squat wont be too much compromise

[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

chop, could you modify the brake caliper carrier to not be able to rotate, horizontal bolts or something (or weld it to the swingarm)?
its not like its a super-high performance build so a little rear brake squat wont be too much compromise


the other thing i was thinking of doing was bolting an alloy block the the carrier that would sit up against the under side of the adjuster block, and would just slide back and forth as i adjust the wheel, the only prob i could see was there wasnt much "meat" in the carrier where i would have to bolt it. welding is another option though.

[ALBI]

the same as an fireblade would do! it uses a alloy block on the inside of the swinger

[Fight_fan]

^My gixxer has the same set up!

[Skinner]

I was frothing at this for a while before I realised I was brushing my teeth absentmindedly. Seriously though, that rear tyre is rockin.

[chopiesel]

made up the brake bar today for the rear turned out good and i can adjust it for almost the full 150mm of rear tyre adjustment i have.

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[Fight_fan]

what are those threaded inserts u put in the swingarm called chop? i'v seen them used a few times n never been able to find them.

[chopiesel]

iv always known them to be called nutserts. i usually get them from wurth but im pretty most god metal centres have them. is there a good nut and bolt supplier down the coast?

[latheboy]

Thats looking good chop, good plan with the nutsert... i hope you did it up nice and tight.. I've had a couple come loose and they suck to get the bolt out then..

[Fight_fan]

quote:Originally posted by chopiesel

iv always known them to be called nutserts. i usually get them from wurth but im pretty most god metal centres have them. is there a good nut and bolt supplier down the coast?


Ahh i see! Cheers mate! Nah there isnt mate, not that I know of anyway... Its times like that, ebay is my friend!

[Deano]

We have them mate if u get struck. Also do a fit of them with the tool and 10 or so of each size in 3, 4, 5 and 6mm

[EFE 1230]

Fuck that's a lot of polished alloy or is it chromed?

wasn't there another fat tyre TL being built on here ages ago?

what prep do you do on the moteur before paint?

fuck that's shiney!!

[fimpBIKES]

chop, you can always get the nutsert tack-welded in one or two places
probably wont get too many vibes out there though

[MDM]

I'd be a bit uncertain about using a nutsert for the torque arm.... would rather have a welded-in threaded boss for security. Wouldn't want the nutsert coming loose and have the tporque arm flapping around and jamming in your spokes...

[Dynomutt]

I'm with MDM here, a nutsert would be unsuitable for the forces involved with a torque arm. Get a proper threaded boss welded in, the ally the nutsert sits in is only going to be around 3mm thick, the torque arm exherts a lot of force trying to stop the caliper rotating with the disc when the brake is applied. I would not use a nutsert myself nor reccommend it to one of my customers in this particular application. Nutserts are predominantly used in lower stress applications, mounting chainguards and huggers etc, and smaller non safety critical components.

[scotty]

quote:Originally posted by Deano

We have them mate if u get struck. Also do aKIT of them with the tool and 10 or so of each size in 3, 4, 5 and 6mm
;)

[chopiesel]

yeh im thinking i might weld on a bit of alloy round bar, then tap a thread in it, that would also do away with the spacer i have there.

[scotty]

that'll be the go chop, last thing ya wont is a badly scratched wheel, let a lone a lock up

[chopiesel]

top yoke came today, one day ill shellout and get ben to make a chunky set of triples for me but for now this will do once its polished.

i also have chrome alloy switchgear

also the bars need to be about 100mm wider, anyone know where i can get a set of chrome flat alloy drag bars about 800mm wide?

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[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by EFE 1230

Fuck that's a lot of polished alloy or is it chromed?

wasn't there another fat tyre TL being built on here ages ago?

what prep do you do on the moteur before paint?

fuck that's shiney!!



some chrome, alot of polished!!

and its prob the same bike...im a bit slow

i cleaned it with a heavy cleaner from my old work, then prep solve then etch primered it, then normal primer.

[chopiesel]

cant wait to paint the rest of it, tail should be here from the states next week, its looking super tuff in the flesh

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[scotty]

i wont to sex your wheels

[Gix11]

Man, that's looking impressive!

[K6Thou]

SSSSSSWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTT.[8D]

[rod185651]

Awesome pic


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[chopiesel]

so iv spent the day hung over as a mofo with the laptop on my chest <s>looking at porn</s> looking for turn signal solutions, i think im gona get these for the front.


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/chopiesel/bike/Untitled-1copy.jpg
http://www.parts-pro.com.au/Video/indicators.MOV

[kev@vcm]

^^^ ok they look trick

[LKC73]

Chop, they are very cool mate! This build is awesome!

[scotty]

dooooo it

[EXBEN]

Hey Chop I've got my own version of those indicators drawn up & ready to cut if your interested. I was planning on making some in the next few weeks.

[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by EXBEN

Hey Chop I've got my own version of those indicators drawn up & ready to cut if your interested. I was planning on making some in the next few weeks.


for sure, id much rather give you my money than some yankie!!!!!

when you make a set let me know and ill come up and check them out, i didnt make it the other sat as i was a little hung over....and driving greystanes to brookvale would have just pissed me off

[EXBEN]

No worries, will do.

[Hagarr]

What size fork leg outer Ben, 54mm???

i'd be interested as well.

Price??

[jakelive]

Yup looking real good ,..

[chopiesel]

got the tank, front gaurd and headlight in primer today, tail not here from the us yet.

also took to the modified stand, rearsets, and a few other bits to the chromer today.

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[EXBEN]

quote:Hagarr Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 23:10:52
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What size fork leg outer Ben, 54mm???

i'd be interested as well.

Price??
Yes I'm doing 50 & 54 mm to start with. Trying to keep the price comparable to the US items about $250-$260 pr

[chopiesel]

stator cover, ill paint the back half of it the same colour as motor then clear the whole thing.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/chopiesel/bike/DSC03085.jpg

[BANDITROD]

Looking good chop

[Pab13]

Thats coming along nicely mate

[Hagarr]

PM sent Ben!!!!

[LKC73]

Looking very cool with the gear on it.

[chopiesel]

took me 6 beers to sane the powder coat off the stator cover, i havnt seen anyone polish one on a tl before, the clear hopefully will stop the magnesium from dullin

[BANDITROD]

The main prob with polished alloys is if you don't use the right clear (pqr15 I think it's called) it will turn yellowish after a while especially with heat

[Fight_fan]

I actually like the look of the primer against all the chrome hey!

[chopiesel]

decided to have a go at designing some triples for it.

downloaded inventor 2011 last night, shit is hard to work out having never used a program like it before. knocked up a few today.

last one is my fav

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[mozza]

number 2 would be my pick

[wackyrider]

Inventor is a good program. just need to spend a bit of time on it and maybe download some books to read on it. I used it for 6 months at school and had to do a project. Designed a set of triples myself.

I actually hope to make these at some point this year if I get the chance

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1276079533.jpg

[pav69]

are you going to paint it yourself chop thats gunna be one sick looking tl cant wait to see it .

[chopiesel]

i will paint the base colour green then its off the the air brusher

[chopiesel]

me likey this one

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/chopiesel/bike/Assembly41.jpg
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[Dynomutt]

The only issue I can see is the staggered pinch bolts, you may have trouble getting them both to stay tight. Personally I'd have the bolts inline, and narrow the pinch area

[oldskool]

Thats a good point.^^^^^^^

[chopiesel]

i thought about that, i thought 1 could always just have the set of three as short dummy bolts and move them to the outside if i really wanted to have two rows, also the pinch area from the base of the recess to the gap is about the same as standard

[Large]

quote:Originally posted by chopiesel

took me 6 beers to sane the powder coat off the stator cover, i havnt seen anyone polish one on a tl before, the clear hopefully will stop the magnesium from dullin


mines polished

and nicely dulled:(

[chopiesel]

quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by chopiesel

took me 6 beers to sane the powder coat off the stator cover, i havnt seen anyone polish one on a tl before, the clear hopefully will stop the magnesium from dullin


mines polished

and nicely dulled:(


does it have clear on it?

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by chopiesel


quote:Originally posted by Large


quote:Originally posted by chopiesel

took me 6 beers to sane the powder coat off the stator cover, i havnt seen anyone polish one on a tl before, the clear hopefully will stop the magnesium from dullin


mines polished

and nicely dulled:(


does it have clear on it?
The main prob with polished alloys is if you don't use the right clear (pqr15 I think it's called) it will turn yellowish after a while especially with heat

[Skinner]

Nice work in Inventor. I've never been much for precision but work in 3DS Max. Still, Autodesk make some nice products.
Also liking option btw ;)

[chopiesel]

so i used all my photobucket bandwidth for the month, pics will be back up in a few weeks, ill post some of the tail unit on the bike later