fark fark fark

[thewiz]

fucking piss of big fucking time i use the last of my money to get my gsxr 1000 08 front wheel for my speed. I took it out of the box and it looked in really good nick. I was happy as pig in shit.
I could smell fresh paint, the person who sent the wheel has sprayed the wheel with a can of black paint and sprayed straight over the dirt and crap that was on there. So I used paint stripper to strip the paint right off, I planned to polish the rim up like a mirror. When I used the paint stripper I found under the paint, that one of the spokes had been snapped at the centre and had been welded and bogged over to make it look like it wasn't there. Further inspection of the rim, where the spokes meet the rim, have cracks and fractures. This is fucked big time.
What a way to end a year.

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[fimpBIKES]

how far away does he live?

i think a 3am wheel-through-the-bedroom-windowing is in order!

[Tony Nitrous]

Private ad ?
E-Bay ?
Wreckers ?

[crazymofo]

email me the pics andy, i'll see what i can do....


fucking cunts

cheers.joe.

[rock hard]

ha ha ha ha ha Fuckin Egay...when you buy things from "Respectable people"in the trade you dont WASTE your Fuckin Money!!!thats why i get wound up, there are people in this country who put their heart and soul into this industry every day, But people always go the cheapest option and then have a big cry when they get duped..sorry wiz but i see this every day..buying second hand off the net is a gamble sometime you save money most times i see people get SCREWED..end rant!!

[gibbo]

I hear what you are saying Morry, but this is a little more serious than that, if this rim had been fitted to a bike the rider may have been in pretty big trouble. I understand buyer beware but this is a deliberate cover up of a potentially fatal defect, and that is wrong in anyone's language!

[thewiz]

quote:cheapest option someone got it for me and it wasnt cheap $450 with rotors plus post so $500 just as well i didnt use it farkers.

email sent joe thanks mate.

[Hagarr]

Man that would have taken some work to hide that.

It's a pity he couldn't have put his efforts into slinging it in the bin and save himself and others the fucken despair.

That Sucks Balls!!!!!!!

[rock hard]

Thats exactly my point Gibbo,seriously man i see this fuckin shit every day it turns my stomach to think what that rim would do probably fly to pieces.. i had a guy in here the other day with a cast alloy frame that had body filler in the frame spar where it bolted to the engine and he got snakey and bad mouthed our shop cause i failed it for a pre rego techinal inspection..im not trying to be an arse about it but the point was for example when we wreck a bike all the crap gets put in the recycle bins and rims for example put on a wheel jig spun for straightness,if needed they are then sent out to our "trusted"wheel guy he is picky and rejects the ones not up to be safely repaired and so on..so that as best as possible the gear we sell is correct..BUT sadly to many people say fuck the local shops im buying off the net..i know im sounding like a cracked record.(remember those)...people need some Viagra eyedrops to have a long hard look at where the net will leave the industry i am a proud member of..

[thewiz]

quote: local shops morry if i could of got one off you or someone on here i would have done i had a post up looking for one but no luck .buying local is the way to go some times .

[hypo ss]

there are some cocksuckers on ebay, no come back.at least if ya got it local you could take it back and bitch slap them with it. lucky ya found it

[gibbo]

Records? Yeah I remember them, still got a few, no longer have anything to play them on bye I still keep em. Mate, I wish you were on the other end of the phone line when I ring the wreckers over here, bunch of money hungry ignorant pricks! I bought a front guard off Vic m/cycle wreckers recently for an 01 GSXR1000 over the phone, very good condition they said, $125 plus delivery, but when it turns up and is the wrong model I have to pay for the return courier plus the cost of resending the correct part. Whilst I can see your point the "industry", over here at least, needs to take a long hard look at itself!!!

[rock hard]

Absolutly Fair enough mate.thats why i use the words "Trusted" just like finding a good bike painter,electrician whatever trade/service you need..it takes time and a little luck once you find the one you can Trust stick with them.its the way it used to work..but there are sharks and they do damage to the trade. but good people are out there but the net is Realy hurting us all..and the worst thing is the money goes mostly to the cocksucking septics...

[sharky]

Like most here Morry I would rather give my cash to Aussies..but when a certain victorian wreckers wants $125 plus postage for an ignition switch and key.....and I can get switch/key/filler cap/seat latch and cable/left switch gear for $123 delivered from germany...money talks...

If they had said $50-75 I would have grabbed it..was planning on a billet filler cap...so the part goes back on the shelf...

I give wreckers a chance...I tell them what I can get it for online...even if they met half way on price the money would go in their pocket..but the answer is always "why the fuk should we compete with the yanks/internet"

Answer is simple...you will go out of business...

They seem to prefer small turn around high profit to the other way round..

When I bought and parted out the cbr600 I got prices from Findapart for the major bits...I sold my stuff at approx 1/2 to 2/3 of those prices..and still more than doubled my money..

[BillyWhizz888]

quote:Originally posted by thewiz


quote:cheapest option someone got it for me

Then someone gets the wheel at 3am
I would be burning his fkin door down by now :(

[thewiz]

sharky is right a lot of the parts for my speed i cant get here or there way over priced jcs have helped me out but they can only do so much i needed l&r switchs jcs second hand ones $200ea ebay $59ea.

[rod185651]

What they've done to cover up the repairs on that wheel is freaking criminal.

He's been asking on here for a front wheel since the 3rd of October are you saying that if he called your shop you could of helped him out Morry? I'm just trying to work out the relevance of your rant to thewiz's cracked wheel problem.

[crazymofo]

im that someone that organised the wheel... so before you lot go throwing said wheel thru my front window, andy bought a front end less wheel and rotors from me, he needed them 2 item to fit it to the bike, i had some contacts in the US i said i could use for him... after 2 months of looking round we couldnt find one for the price andy wanted to pay/afford for a mint one.

in the end one of my contacts was able to find a wheel for me, and had it shipped over. and you can all see the result. i never had intention of fucking andy round, he has been a good customer, and i hope he feels that ive tried to look after him the best i could. i inspected the wheel before forwarding it to andy, and it looked great, so, i reboxed it back up and forwarded it to andy, there was no way i could have known for this to have happened. now i feel like a cunt, and to make it right i could be out of pocket for it, even tho i did this to "help him out" and made no money on doing this...

ive contacted the bloke who sold it us. he has not replied to me yet, and honestly i dont know if he will. ive been buying from a select group of people in the US for years, and never had a problem with anything, this is the first time, and it will certainly be the last time i use this particular fellow. morry while your argement is compelling to buy local... when the local fuckwits stop trying to fuck us all up the arse without lube is when i will buy local.... cunts round here charge far to much for what they sell time and time again i compare local parts to international.. and its not a case of 20 or 50 bucks, it usually is a amount of over 100 dollars,

add that to over the whole project, you endup thousands more expended.

im terribly sorry for andy and this wheel, ive lost plenty of time sourcing one for him, and now if i cant sort it out with the seller, i may be up for cash out to andy. to sort it out.

cheers.joe.

[Azrael]

I blame video game violence and rock music

[thewiz]

quote:i hope he feels that ive tried to look after him the best i could.its sweet Joe I don't blame you at all mate you have always done your best for me and looked after me with the bits for my bike and at a great price its just my bad luck mate don't sweat it mate
il sort some thing out .

[rock hard]

Hey Rod, to be honest i havnt looked in the parts wanted for quite a while,as with andy he's contacted me before looking for bitz and like Any ASF members i always help out any of the boys with as big a discount as is possible..so i dont know why andy didnt contact me direct? especialy as he is here in W.A....if we dont have the parts in stock we chase parts..for many of the WASF boys if they are going to change the look of their bike i let them come in and let them pick and chose trying different bitz till they are happy..ask xjmick..Azreal. Rocket just about lives here,but thats just us..just find someone you trust generaly its a 2 way street..not always.
Hey Joe,im sorry this issue has bitten you and as it would seem you have tried really hard to help out..sometimes it happens..
Sharky..i cant explain why the pricing structure overseas is different to here but.as anyone who buys bikes at the auctions knows the wrecks are fuckin expensive to start with so straight away that cost is applied to all the salvagable components ..then we HAVE to make a profit as you know to pay wages etc.you can try to match prices but at the end of the day you cant sell for cost or at a loss its simply not possible..so by all means bag out shitty Sellers..hopefully recomend the good shops ..BTW i am the service manager here the only time i get into the wrecking side is to help our ASF members or Ducati wrecking as i know what fits what..SORRY about the long winded explanation but as anyone who knows me..im very passionate about what i do for a living..end rant..

[thewiz]

quote:i dont know why andy didnt contact me direct?sorry morry i just assume you looked in parts wanted bugger il remember next time as soon as the bike is done its coming your way for pre pitts inspection morry.

[rock hard]

Like i said andy,i do what i can to always help out..just pull your finger out and actualy come and meet the local lads on this forum.besides the mexican ASF The WASF are a top bunch of Boofheads..But As Turbokat told me recently i need to get out more..

[Hagarr]

quote: Hey Rod, to be honest i havnt looked in the parts wanted for quite a while,as with andy he's contacted me before looking for bitz and like Any ASF members i always help out any of the boys with as big a discount as is possible

Fucken A+


quote:if we dont have the parts in stock we chase parts..for many of the WASF boys if they are going to change the look of their bike i let them come in and let them pick and chose trying different bitz till they are happy..ask "Hagarr"

Fucken A+


quote:Sharky..i cant explain why the pricing structure overseas is different to here

If you wish a really shitty Rant I can, Thongs, Bowl of Rice archaic working conditions, Etc Etc Etc.
Speak to me about this one day I'd love to!!!!


quote:SORRY about the long winded explanation but as anyone who knows me..im very passionate about what i do for a living..end rant..

Fucken Italians, Luv 'ya Mozz now put those hands down and pour a Fucken Beer and come and help me with my wiring!!! :D

[rock hard]

Hey Danny,Do you want me to do some wiring on new years eve..fuck man do you want it to actualy work...hahaha..im serious though we'll do the harris after this racing season is finished..2 morrow nite were gust gona get smashed and pull the mickey out of captain Pugwash..ARRRR Anyway im workin on mels buell rite now!!

[thewiz]

iv read through a lot of your posts morry you have just about helped every farker in WA and then find time to do your own shit as well your a legend .

[rod185651]

quote:Originally posted by thewiz

iv read through a lot of your posts morry you have just about helped every farker in WA and then find time to do your own shit as well your a legend .


That is my attitude towards Morry also, that's why I asked the question.

One of my favourite photos I've seen in a long time is this one. I think it depicts Morry perfectly.... Always helping a mate out.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/rod185651/demotivational.jpg

[rock hard]

Thanks guys BUT im REALY NOT a legend..im just the same as everybody on this forum. I LIVE BREATH BUILD & RIDE..i have been doing this motorcycle thing for so long and the older i get the better it feels,BUT(dont ya hate that word)What means as much as riding is the MATES i have been privilaged to make.those two Boofheads in that photo are two of the finest individuals ive met in a very long time..that intense period in 07/08 building the britfighter and the green fighter of Rockets and the Cammo 996,Jeremy would join us smiling and laughing at billy wizz with a big fuck off electric drill doing serious damage..a wiring diagram blown up and stuck to a door..anyone who reads this ramble can relate to what im saying..Its all about PASSION...look at any photo of Ben Shaw.that crazy arse grin says it all His fabrication skills are driven by Pure Passion oh and he's a mad fucker..and i know that this is a fuckin long way round to get to the fuckin point BUT..The only thing that scares me is what is happening in this industry right fuckin NOW..the industry is BLEEDING Like HELL,IF There isnt some sort of return to profit for AUSTRALIAN business i seriously think not many people are going to like the end result..I was offered a job back in the mining industry in late november..including 2 trips to the states a year and more than double my present wages..company car etc. BUT i LOVE doing what i do everyday there is no way my employers can afford to pay me more i feel guilty in this current economic climate the money they pay me..But its what my heart and soul crave..engines ,power,drag racing. fuckin big wheelies ...you all get my drift..But if aussie dollars continue to go to other countries how the fuck will the next generation of streetfighters get their bikes looked after by guys like me!!! im going to be too fuckin old to service KATO's young blokes bikes..sincerely Morry

[sharky]

quote:But if aussie dollars continue to go to other countries how the fuck will the next generation of streetfighters get their bikes looked after by guys like me!!! im going to be too fuckin old to service KATO's young blokes bikes..sincerely Morry
Thats what I'm saying mate...just think how much aussie $$$ is going to egay usa/eu when, if they were competative, it would go to aussie wreckers...
Some of the wreckers (and they're the big boys not just the back yard shops) need to wake up and see this....
A mate got an entire front end...forks yokes clip-ons calipers switchgear for $1200 delivered..best wreckers here offered was $800 for the forks alone..they have the choice...lower the profit margin but sell more parts.....like, oh I dont know....supermarkets etc....:D
It would bring keep the $$$ inland...

[thewiz]

one idea is why dont the ASF start there own part business that way you can keep the price down and look after members and give the wreckers a wake up call and some of the profit goes to the running of the site just a idea.

[rock hard]

you two should open a wreckers here in australia. well call it Russ and andy wrecking..call it RANDY wrecking .buy a few late model wrecks say put up 100k,pull them apart sort out whats salvagable price them at egay prices sell off all those parts,still with me.then yould have to factor in rent for the storage,disposal of oils/ coolant,
stale fuel,worn/damaged tyres oil contaminated rags used to clean up,public liability insurance,workers comp,electricity all the licence fees to operate in this nanny society,the running costs of the ute to pick up /deliver bikes/spares oh would you like wages..these are called business running expenses and factor all that in to the parts you sell.also a little thing call taxation,gst on goods and services
it would give you an idea where all these prices come into it..i bought a bike off the net turned out to have a buckled front rim.blown fork seals,unusable clip ons,powder coating that comes off the frame in big flakes little or no compression on one of its cylinders..it all comes back to you get what you pay for. when you buy off the net or private you got no come back!!!!

[sharky]

I'm not making it personal mate...just pointing out that it comes down to $$$. I understand overheads wages etc...But at the end of the day the $$ price of the part you want is what counts for most people...especially if money is tight...

And if it's the bike I think you're referring to it was painted frame, not powder coat.

[rock hard]

at the end of the day a business has to make a profit Russ or they disapear just like your local record shop,now its just large multinationals they dont give a flying fuck about their customers,whereas i and people like me put their heart and soul into it thats why i get so fired up on this subject..its all about balance but rite now its completly out of balance...

[nick76]

Half these parts people are sourcing from overseas,are possibly/probably stolen goods???

I've used findapart.com.au afew times,and the prices vary abit.
Sometimes the difference between the cheapest reply and dearest is nearly double,so there are some wreckers out there that are cutting margins,and looking at a larger turn over???

And,with all the new rules regarding repairable write offs,not being able to be registered again in afew of the states now,and probably Australia wide within afew years,isn't the NRMA gonna set up a big new supermarket style wreckers,for all these bikes now,that can't be registered again??
If they do end up a Bunnings style wreckers,with everything under one roof,they're gonna make it even harder again for some of the smaller wreckers to exsist??

I know i wouldn't want to be in the wrecking business at the moment...

[Hagarr]

quote: you two should open a wreckers here in australia. well call it Russ and andy wrecking..call it RANDY wrecking .buy a few late model wrecks say put up 100k,pull them apart sort out whats salvagable price them at egay prices sell off all those parts,still with me.then yould have to factor in rent for the storage,disposal of oils/ coolant,
stale fuel,worn/damaged tyres oil contaminated rags used to clean up,public liability insurance,workers comp,electricity all the licence fees to operate in this nanny society,the running costs of the ute to pick up /deliver bikes/spares oh would you like wages..these are called business running expenses and factor all that in to the parts you sell.also a little thing call taxation,gst on goods and services
it would give you an idea where all these prices come into it..i bought a bike off the net turned out to have a buckled front rim.blown fork seals,unusable clip ons,powder coating that comes off the frame in big flakes little or no compression on one of its cylinders..it all comes back to you get what you pay for. when you buy off the net or private you got no come back!!!!

AFUCKENMEN MOZZ!!!!!!

Keep it coming Mozz EVERYTHING you say and more is currently affecting ALL Australian Businesses not just the Auto Industry.

Remeber those protests years ago around the world about Globalisation, everything is coming home to roost!!

Remember that guy Hitler who brought "Germans for Germany" into perspective, same same!

Unfortunately the last chance we had was denigrated to such a level (even jailed on a trumped up charge) NOBODY will ever dare to ask the question "Please Explain"

[Gitzy]

Just curious why don't some of the Aussie wreckers start an ebay account and start capturing some of that market??

The majority of the parts I've purchased over the years from the US and UK, swingarms forks etc, not little parts, were bought from online ebay wreckers not private sellers.. thousands and thousands of parts listed in there inventory at the touch of your finger..

Pay 1 bloke to snap photos, categorize and list them on ebay and post when ready, it would be a full time job to keep up.. But I bet they sell more parts than they would to the bloke of the street??.. I've spent thousands of dollars on all sorts of parts for my builds and I've never set foot in a wreckers.. I wouldn't even know where they are in Newcastle.. Honestly because I haven't bothered after hearing so many stories like Russ' from other mates..

Buuuuut If said wreckers had good priced parts on ebay that I could receive in a few days instead of OS post, weeks? maybe month or so.. I would def buy Oz..

[Gitzy]

Also another question, not related to wreckers but to General Bike shops regarding overheads and such.. can someone explain this??

When I bought my new clutch for the R1.. I took a list of parts required to my local Bike Shop.. 10 mins away from front door..

Approx 15 parts.. All OEM Yamaha.. all world wide part numbers..

got to about part 12 and the price was over $600, I said stop don't worry about it..

Went home jumped online.. Ronnies Mail Order in US.. OEM Parts Fiche..

Listed 15 parts put in basket $390 including post to my front door.. then got a $40 refund as postage was less than quoted.

Why when we were sitting at almost $1Aus to $1Us (at the time) were exactly the same parts more than double the price here than getting it delivered from a shop in US???

I think we've had this discussion before, I can't remember answer..

[rock hard]

Thats the challenge gitzy ,Nick you are on the money thanks..shop around boys thats what competition is all about,but as far as possible spend ypur dollars here..cause all the profits that go overseas arnt going into australia..the gst alone dosn't go to the tax office to then go and spend money on aussie infostructure you know roads,emergency departments water ..just like the nsw gumment selling the power industry to overseas...for fuck sake wake up...its not just about the fuckin dollars.$$..its keeping them in THIS Country is what im on about..we have the best country in the world..why do you think every body is catchin a boat to come here...fuck where are those blood pressure pills

[sharky]

Here's another example mate....
I tried to keep my money here...
Contacted a drag race parts supplier for my pingel fuel tap adaptor plate 'cos he said on the forum it was in stock...turned out the one I wanted wasnt...so he would check the price and have to order it from overseas...week later...nothing...emailed him...'still waiting for an answer from supplier in the states'...waited another week...same answer.....so I rang Pingle...One week later it is in my hand (arrived xmas eve)...for the same price inc post the Aussie dealer quoted.....and I still haven't heard back from him...

[rock hard]

Gitzy my boy thats a question i have asked so many times.why the fuck are genuine parts so much more expensive than the us especialy considering that the exchange rate is so close..fair enough they dont have GST,but why the difference..i just dont know...ask your local member of fedral parliment..

[thewiz]

quote:fuck where are those blood pressure pillshttp://bestsmileys.com/lol/1.gif

[BANDITROD]

quote:Originally posted by sharky


quote:But if aussie dollars continue to go to other countries how the fuck will the next generation of streetfighters get their bikes looked after by guys like me!!! im going to be too fuckin old to service KATO's young blokes bikes..sincerely Morry
Thats what I'm saying mate...just think how much aussie $$$ is going to egay usa/eu when, if they were competative, it would go to aussie wreckers...
Some of the wreckers (and they're the big boys not just the back yard shops) need to wake up and see this....
A mate got an entire front end...forks yokes clip-ons calipers switchgear for $1200 delivered..best wreckers here offered was $800 for the forks alone..they have the choice...lower the profit margin but sell more parts.....like, oh I dont know....supermarkets etc....:D
It would bring keep the $$$ inland...
most people on ebay have fuckall overheads compared to a business so they can sell it a heap cheaper cos the prob dont even have to pay staff and rent/loans or whatever it might be

[sharky]

My point is simply (as we all know) that parts are much cheaper online/egay etc than most wreckers...and despite all the good arguments for shopping aussie, I would guess the majority will let their wallets guide them....
Therefore there is 1000's of $$$ going overseas that would stay here if the prices were a bit cheaper..don't have to be as cheap, but close the gap...surely a sale of a part is better than it sitting gathering dust for months...and making nothing.

[Tony Nitrous]

I worked in a printers when home P.C's became common,
1,000's of our bread and butter little jobs went out the window
as everyone had printers at home.

I know someone who worked at Kodak when digital camera's did the same thing.

Is this any different to what the exchange rate and internet are
doing to Aussie bike shops ?

Whilst I can see the Bike shops side of things, there are many
that are taking the piss with crap service and rip off prices.
Should I really pay double for my Yoshi's, Pazzo's and Renthals
so the shop can be staffed by "couldn't care less" 18 year olds
and Salesmen who were selling dishwashers or bed's last week.
Its often embarassing to talk to staff in our local bike shops,
their basic knowledge of their trade is VERY limited.

I consider the likes of Ben / Rock Hard etc to be top blokes, and
I do feel sorry for the more genuine folk in the trade, but they need to
realise that things change and the parts and accesseries trade is one of them,
and that they also have a lot of other bike shops to thank for the publics attitude
and lack of loyalty towards them.

I'll buy Aussie made products when its best to do so.
I always buy our excellent Aussie Radguards but im not giving shops Huuuuuge mark ups so
they can click a mouse instead of me. If Yoshi's are half price in the US,
someone, Somewhere, is making too much importing them. Blame them.

The 2nd hand / wreckers market is slightly different, as AU has a much smaller
market of both stock and customers to be a "bargain" trade and hasnt got the
huge supply that US has or the UK has from its home market or over the channel.

[Jup]

quote:Originally posted by Gitzy
Why when we were sitting at almost $1Aus to $1Us (at the time) were exactly the same parts more than double the price here than getting it delivered from a shop in US???

In the year 2000 the estimated population of China was approx 1,300,000,000 people (the highest in the world), USA was third with around 280,000,000 and Australia was 51st with 19,000,000.

It's a simple matter of supply and demand. When you get a shit load of stock in regularly and cheaply, you can afford to move it cheaply, cover your costs, and turn sufficient profit to survive, we just don't have the same turnover here so the relative price per-unit must cover a greater percentage of the running costs etc.

[Tony Nitrous]

B-King sales in the US were VERY low.
Most owners never met another guy with one,
Here we have had rides with 6 or 7 together.
No state in the US has more owners than Brisbane.

Cost in Brisbane, close to AU$18,000
Cost in the US, US$8,000

[hyofighter]

so a basic summary of what i see here is

moz IS a fucken legend support ya local if asf members all together cant fix it ,find it ,or solve it then its not possible

[rock hard]

Hey Scotty..it goes "improvise adapt overcome" this is a training video from the streetfighters school of harden the fuck up..note the camo pants..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g

[sharky]

Ok..so I hear all the arguments as to why Aussie wreckers are having to charge more etc...

Question is,
'How are they going to "improvise, adapt,overcome" the problem as the internet/ebay isn't going away.'

Maybe a big public push by Aus wreckers to keep the $$$ here matched by lowering the prices a bit (not slashing them) to persuade people to spend their money with them...

With all the good will in the world and the desire to help out the industry, if people still think they are getting overcharged they will go elsewhere..

[Tony OW31]

Problem I see in Aus is the sheer amount of dealers, whether it is in bikes or whatever, a retail business that basically gets its profit from a percentage of turnover has , to survive and prosper, have either

A, a large enough turnover, or

B, a large enough percentage mark-up

Over here most businesses use model B, which 20yrs ago was all fine and dandy. With internet, globalisation, and relatively inexpensive intercontinental shipping, that business model cannot, and will not work, especially with mass market consumer goods, unless aided and abetted by the government in the form of tariffs and import duties.

A lot of people will say that Aus does not have the population to support model A, but I beg to differ, with x amount of population there are x% of sales to be had, if you read up a bit on marketing statistics that percentage remains fairly consistent among similar demographics, so it is quite simple to extrapolate the amount of dealers required for a given population. I would wager that if you studied the amount of dealers per capita in Australia and compared it to the USA or Europe you would be looking at a ratio of about 3:1

Where I come from in the UK has a comparable population to the greater Brisbane area, yet there are only 3 new bike dealers, and about 5 small service/second hand dealers, in Brisbane there are more than that in one street.

The simple solution is to reduce the amount of dealers/retailers, which in turn will enable those remaining to amortise costs over a far greater turnover, the increased turnover will enable the mark-up to be reduced significantly, therefore reducing the cost to the consumer which would have the knock on effect of increasing overall sales due to the reduced sticker prices.

The net result would be prices that are far more competitive on a global scale, meaning a lot more money would stay in Australia, especially if the government where to introduce legislation that equalised the effect of local taxation on personally imported goods.

You are always going to get people that will go to extremes to save a dollar, but I'm betting the majority on here are willing to pay a bit of a premium to keep their business in Australia, just not the 50%-300% bullshit that we now have to endure.

just my $0.02

[hypo ss]

i run a biz in the wheatbelt of wa. alot of these bike shops and the like need to take a step back, there sevice is crap and some prices are over the top(ducati parts faarrk).we are having the worst harvest on record,but farmers are still spending local even when they can get stuff cheaper from overseas.why becase they support there local comunity we give them a reliable sevice and look after them (like moz and his crew)a lot of these farms are close to going to the wall, but they still help there locals.better sevice less trying to get rich overnight and treating the customer like they are your most important customer is the key.alot of these bigger dealers should take note!keep it local or loose it.(end rant)
steve.

[thewiz]

quote:(ducati parts faarrk).my triumph speed parts here are a very high price very hard to get second hand parts here for it.

[mac69]

iv been using ebay in the uk for over 10 years now. selling and buying bike bits from all over the world and never had bad luck like that,do feel sorry for you mate,only been riped of once with a fuel tank,that never arrived, have had to open a few disputes,and always got a refund.there has to be a trust thing as we are all bikers and a bit of respect for each other is needed,buying things over the net always pay with paypal,as if the goods are fuc.. they will fight your corner for you, and you will get the cash back,in the uk even the wreckers use ebay now,still over price a bit,but at least they are seeing the light

[Jockney Rebel]

.just an aside i started my little business last year [everybody whos in busness said i was mental as the economy was in freefall ] im just about broke but im gonna give it till nov thenif its not earning me a living by then its all over red rover and itll becoma a part time excercise [ like most other bike recovery firms in this country ie oh yeah we advertise 24/7 but we dont actually MEAN it ]
now i dont have the luxury of being able to borrow money or even have a bank overdraught so everything i earn goes straight back into the running costs of the firm i cant compete with the big transport firms for long distance stuff so thatll be the first thing to go
i mean from my point of veiw why the hell should i go 800- 1000kms fo 250bucks when i can do a local breakdown for 200 and itll take me 4hours and ill be back home that day
anyway i m thankful for the guys on here that have supported me your all geezahs in my book and i shall continue untill it becomes obvious i need to get a proper job

[Hagarr]

As a footnote I don't necessarily surf the net for cheaper prices I invariably shop outside of the normal business hours that most businesses are open.

It's a bonus if the price is cheaper.

What I'm looking for is service not always price.

Motorcycles Plus in Kewdale is one shop I have dealt with for years and I would buy 90% of my items there and any mechanical work I can't or haven't got time to do myself.

If this business went on the net I would use them even more!!

Jock, having been in business the last six years with the last two being sheer bollocks I would and have strongly suggested to people wishing to go in to business to NOT!!! IMHO and experience.

Particularly with the Stupid money people are asking for here in the west, NORMAL businesses just can't compete.

I wish you all the luck mate!

[hypo ss]

fuckin oath!

[thewiz]

quote:ive contacted the bloke who sold it us. he has not replied to me yet, and honestly i dont know if he will. ive been buying from a select group of people in the US for years, and never had a problem with anything, this is the first time, and it will certainly be the last time i use this particular fellow.ok id like this fuckers details joe please and what ever you no about him joe please.

[goondaddy]

pay the extra!local,suck it up!
sight unseen is the obvious!
ebay for example!
unless your buying from a bizo!
no guarentee,its a lotto ticket!

[thewiz]

if i could of got a wheel here i would of im getting real tired of these rip offs if he was in oz i would of had this idiot sorted already as you can see im so farking piss off still.it took me months to save the fcuking money but its my bad next time il get my farking shit here .

[thewiz]

quote:after 2 months of looking round we couldnt find one for the price andy wanted to pay/afford for a mint one.im no having ago at you joe .i payed $500 for the wheel you got me so if i got a
quote:mint onehere what would it of cost me .

[thewiz]

fark here egay 2 farking wheel $500
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/suzuki-gsxr-1000-07-08-wheels-/260720757075?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb42b0953

[thewiz]

sorry for the rant guys im just like you guys i have bills coming in and work is very slow i made $315 this fortnight so the bills are getting bigger and im stressing out then i got farkers that rip me .

[goondaddy]

ebay!
advertise parts you dont have!
take orders,recieve the funds!
get it in!
make a profit,fkn awsome!
will never buy via ebay!
if you cant hold it and get a visual,its a fkn dreasm!
or a lotto ticket!

[thewiz]

no not egay read from the start i have the wheel.

[sharky]

Why are some so anti-ebay ??

I have sold $1000's here and in uk...and bought much more...
My rating is 100% and only have a handful of problems out of many 100's of deals...
Moral....Always use paypal and send by registered post.

[nick76]

^^^^Same here^^^^^

I've bought and sold heaps of stuff thru eBay,and never had a drama.
If they have alot of feedback,and all positive,thats a safe call,if they are a new ebayer,treat it like an ad in the paper,and go see the item in person,or run a little risk,or smaller postable items.

All in all,i've scored shitloads of bargains via ebay,if i do ever get ripped off,i'd still be a mile in front anyway.

[thewiz]

i haven't got a problem with ebay iv had to get a lot of my bits there as long as you use paypal because if some thing goes wrong you get your money back

[thewiz]

any word joe from these farkers yet its funny you buy lot of parts from them but now you don't hear from them.

[thewiz]

ok this is the farker that rip me off .

Business Name:
tc auto sales llc
Email:
tcautosalesllc@gmail.com

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Customer Service Email: tcautosalesllc@gmail.com
Customer Service Phone: 404-680-2423


his website is
www.186mph.com