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Deano
08-05-2010, 06:07 PM
finally got myself a mill.
it is a Ostmac 3hp, they were built be king rich and antually has the KR-V2000 king rich model number on it.
came from a tool makers shop that is shutting down. got it inspected by the local king rich service agent and he said it was in brilliant condition. came with a 2 axis dig readout, coolant etc.
not even a mark on the table or vice from a wayward cutter.
it is 3 phase at the moment so will have to convert to single phase. can start a thread on that if anyone cares to follow how it is done.
also got with it a Kuroda boring and facing head, a clamp set, an eron vice, and a meca 10' rotary table with plates and also an expander plate that takes the roatary table out to about 16"
only issue with it is the power feed on the x axis dosn't work so will either replace it or pull it apart and check the basics like brushes and broken wires etc.
now i just gotta learn how to use it.
a new lathe is next on the shopping list.
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El_Hefty
08-05-2010, 06:21 PM
Nice Deano
With the rotating bed and an industrial vacuum plus a diamond grinding head its what i use for Automotive flywheel machining.
At 35-50 for a car flywheel and 80-100 for a truck flywheel it pays for itself pretty quickly
they are great things enjoy. (keep the spindle head greased, they do get hot)
kevkatana
08-05-2010, 06:21 PM
BASTARD!!! Good score maaaaaate.
Hagarr
08-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Thats awesome Deano
Almost identical to what I have, Microcut V2000 same digi readout even.
I've kept mine 3 phase only because I have 3 phase available.
Looks in good nick.
The attachments are worth their weight in gold as to buy separatly seem to be as much as you pay for the machine itself.
Good work happy milling!
Deano
08-05-2010, 06:27 PM
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1273405969.jpg
organised a mate with a crane truck.
wasn't as hard to get in as expected. 1200kg never looked so light
Gitzy
08-05-2010, 06:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Deano
can start a thread on that if anyone cares to follow how it is done.
Top stuff Deano, and please do with the thread, highly interested.. :D
Deano
08-05-2010, 06:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by Hagarr
Thats awesome Deano
Almost identical to what I have, Microcut V2000 same digi readout even.
I've kept mine 3 phase only because I have 3 phase available.
Looks in good nick.
The attachments are worth their weight in gold as to buy separatly seem to be as much as you pay for the machine itself.
Good work happy milling!
tell me about it. i looked at the replacement cost of the accessories and nearly fell over.
the boring head 3.5k plus another $350 or so for the arbour
the eron vice $1050
the rotary table $2250 plus i then would have to make the expander plate.
the clamp set about $100
good score mate...you got mail too
Deano
08-05-2010, 06:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Gitzy
quote:Originally posted by Deano
can start a thread on that if anyone cares to follow how it is done.
Top stuff Deano, and please do with the thread, highly interested.. :D
no worries mate will do
Deano
08-05-2010, 06:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by davo
good score mate...you got mail too
so do you old cock
bladehunter
08-05-2010, 06:55 PM
if only I had the space
good score mate... look forward to seeing what you'll be making with it!
Deano
08-05-2010, 07:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by yoda
good score mate... look forward to seeing what you'll be making with it!
a whole heap of swarf is my bet
Hagarr
08-05-2010, 08:06 PM
and broken end mills no doubt LOL :D
Iceman
08-05-2010, 08:25 PM
nice one mate
BANDITROD
08-05-2010, 09:31 PM
fuck yeah mate thats awesome
EXBEN
08-05-2010, 10:32 PM
She's a beaut. There's no stopping you now.
The power feed's are pretty simple, pull it apart & have a look( check the fuse first tho ;)), mine wasn't working either when I got it & turned out to be a broken gear which I was able to buy new.
EXBEN
08-05-2010, 10:34 PM
Oh & I'm jealous of your boring/facing head.[:p]
Zooks
08-05-2010, 11:45 PM
quote:Originally posted by Deanoit is 3 phase at the moment so will have to convert to single phase. can start a thread on that if anyone cares to follow how it is done.
I cheated and bought myself one of these - http://www.phasechanger.com/products.php
Absolutely brilliant Aussie designed machines. I can create 3 phase power anywhere there's a standrad 240 volt supply. I know guys running full workshops (of multiple tools) off these things.
wackyrider
09-05-2010, 08:23 AM
Great score mate. Once u get the lathe as well, there will be no stopping you.
All u need now is practice
fimpBIKES
09-05-2010, 09:41 AM
awesome deano! keen to see the power conversion too :D
Redmohawk
09-05-2010, 11:36 AM
Very sexy ! Tool porn!
Deano
09-05-2010, 01:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by EXBEN
She's a beaut. There's no stopping you now.
The power feed's are pretty simple, pull it apart & have a look( check the fuse first tho ;)), mine wasn't working either when I got it & turned out to be a broken gear which I was able to buy new.
will do mate thanks for the tip
Deano
09-05-2010, 01:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by EXBEN
Oh & I'm jealous of your boring/facing head.[:p]
its ok mate i am jealous of you guys that know how to work these things
Deano
09-05-2010, 01:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES
awesome deano! keen to see the power conversion too :D
will do mate. it has a duel input transformer in it so just a matter of changeing 2 wires from the 415v infput to the 240v input and that gets the powerfeed, contactors and DRO working. then an invertor between the motor and the contact box and should be running
Deano
09-05-2010, 02:46 PM
had a quick look at the power feed. the brushes seen ok. they are worn but still about 6mm left on them. but i did find that the large brass gear was stuffed. had a quick look on the interweb and it seems that Well Setting power feeds finished up about 15 years ago.
had a look at the align powerfeed parts and so far they look very sililar. they both have the same 5/8 shaft with a 1/8 key. i will have to get for a trip to hare and forbes next week and see about comparing my gear with the align gear. i think they will fit aslong as they are the same tooth count.
will arrange a power cord and plug during the week that way i can get power to the accessories like the power feed and check if the motor acutally works. no point replacing a gear if the motor don't run.
KATO ZX7
10-05-2010, 07:25 PM
Awsome Deano, looks like you'l be coming up with heaps of new things to make and do.
Mishdog20
10-05-2010, 07:37 PM
Fuck yeah, thats so cool Deano.
ozzy1100
14-05-2010, 05:19 PM
fuck deano i go away for 3 weeks come back and u got what id give my left nut for lol sounds like the 1 you
talking about at afr looks like a great buy
good size for every thing ull ever need
Deano
14-05-2010, 06:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by ozzy1100
fuck deano i go away for 3 weeks come back and u got what id give my left nut for lol sounds like the 1 you
talking about at afr looks like a great buy
good size for every thing ull ever need
cheers mate. the one i mentioned at afr is basically a rip off of this one. thourght i would be better off spending 1/3 the money and getting a second hand brand name mill and some tooling compared to a new no name mill with no tooling.
got the power feed and dig display up and running, the power feed that wasn't working has a stripped gear and 2 broken wires at the limit switch. just stripped the wires back and rejoin and the power feed now works. off to hare and forbes tomorrow to check out a align gear to see if it will fit. according to my internet research it should fit the well setting brand power feed unit
ozzy1100
15-05-2010, 08:24 PM
sweet as , you will love the power feed makes yr life a lot better
cuts so much nicer with constant load that they give
if yr ro table can be set up like a index head you can just make fly cutters
up out of highseed steel brased or s/s rod welded 2 some bar( high tensele works very well)
and yoy will be able 2 cut gears and splines(now i think of it i have sean some old slot drils ground 2 do same thing).
the varable speed 2 is great as well im very gellous lol i found out that a mate i did my time with that i hadent talked 2in 10
or so yrs sold his spare mill before crissy doh missed out on that one still looking tho
you should pick it up fast as they easy 2 use just takes time 2 get used 2 finding the right feel 2 ur cuts and set up
a mag base dail indercater works a treat and when u get yr turny thing as well u preaty much set
btw solable oil can sometimes smell as bad as yr arse did at afr and that is saying something.......
Deano
16-05-2010, 09:55 AM
you loved it mate, don't deny it.
itching to get it running now
ozzy1100
16-05-2010, 08:07 PM
lol love must of been what was on those little girly's faces in the night club when
you ninjaed us all oh wait it might have just been dry reaching lol
i must say mate im a plumber and have smelt some bad shit (no pun lol) but that took the cake
there was talk off leaving u at a train station on the way home ha ha
the cat that shat in my mough ate the bird that shat in davo's( i think it was) must have crawled up yr arse and died lol
im just pissed u got a new toy and i did not
Redmohawk
17-05-2010, 09:56 AM
You pore fucker's didn't have to sleep in the same room as him lol
ShedBoy
24-05-2010, 02:16 PM
SWEET. I got one of these about 3 years ago with a heap of tooling, tooling was worth more than what I paid all up. I call it 1 tonne of fun. Mine is a copy of a bridgeport called a bigport. Went to Hare & Forbes and got a copy of the manual for the machine which they sell which looks exactly the same. Turn out the parts all fit cause I have bought a few since. Here she is when I brought it home.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1274709584.jpg
3 phase when I got it, converted it to single for $60 using a grunfos pump motor and a 2 to 1 reduction because the pump motor spun twice the speed of the original. Here it is with me other machine.
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1274686473.jpg
These are both buried at the moment because I demolished my house and needed the storage space until the new house was built, which is nearly done. I will post some photos of my conversion when I can see it. If you make a trolley for moving it use better wheels than the ones I did.
Deano
24-05-2010, 05:24 PM
looks good. unfortunately i cant just use a different motor as the mounts are different and the variable speed heads needs a motor out put shaft about 6inches long.
motor is at the rewinders now getting the star windings pulled out so that they can be run to the terminal box
ShedBoy
24-05-2010, 06:51 PM
I am the king of making shit work at times. Alcohol helps. I think from memory I used the base and shaft of the original motor to adapt the pump motor. It seems to have worked okay but I have to pull it apart to turn the top bearing so I can get at the grease nipple. The feed motor on the table will also need to be rewound maybe as I think they are 110 volt, or just get a transformer with a 110v tap off it, I couldn't find a suitable one at the time to do it but if you find one let us know. For the record the gear on mine is fucked aswell, I am considering turn mine into a cnc using stepper motors from industrial copying machines and a cheap driver off ebay. Google mill cnc conversion there is heaps of info for those who don't mind having a go. Ball screw zero lash feed screws are the expensive bit but. You will have heaps of fun and it will drive you mad at times too. Did it come with a setup ring for getting the head square because they make life alot easier. If you need a manual send me a PM as from the variable gearbox down it looks the same as mine. Oh maytag washing machines have the perfect 240 volt fluid pump, motor at one end and pump about 7 inches away, no probs from mine so far and it supplies enough fluid to have the mill and lathe going at the same time. Hopefully I will be feeling swarf through me thongs again soon.
ShedBoy
24-05-2010, 07:04 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/150LBS-X-AXIS-LONGITUDINAL-TRAVEL-POWER-TABLE-FEED-/270573872224?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Hardware&hash=item3eff75a460
Just found on sleeze bay. Bit pricey though you could make it CNC for that price.
Deano
25-05-2010, 07:14 AM
adapting another motor is an option but not one i wanted to go with if i didn't have to.
i wanted the king rich model cause they have a dual tapping transformer. just change a couple of wires and things like the power feed and dig readout work straigt away. that power feed is pretty cheap to be honest. my powerfeed needs a new brass gear that alone is $75.
latheboy
31-05-2010, 08:18 AM
Make one deano, you have the tools.
Deano
31-05-2010, 05:26 PM
but the tools dont work yet,
Neo Dutch
01-06-2010, 11:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by ShedBoy
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1274686473.jpg
I have the same model lathe as this.
ozzy1100
01-06-2010, 07:36 PM
lol today by chance i put in a word at one of the plants i do work in for their old colechester
trumph 2000 lathe for wait for it $750 i find out in a few day if the higher ups will let me take it
it is 3 phase 7.5 hp and 1200 kgs but i did my time on one of these and love them
have just done a search on net for single phase motors in them and food a few
i rang a mate and he has 3 phase if i dont use it he will and do a trade on his herk 9" 240 v
so if its a go i cant lose i hope lol
Deano
01-06-2010, 08:28 PM
3hp is as big as you can go on single phase without using some fancy phase convertor thing
ozzy1100
01-06-2010, 09:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Deano
3hp is as big as you can go on single phase without using some fancy phase convertor thing
yer 2.2 kw or 3.2 hp but there is bigger but u have 2 put it on a 30 amp line from mem
i was reading on one where he used 2 hp on same lathe and had good sucsess but was rebulding with 3 hp ... just means no 10 mm cuts 5 mm will have 2 do lol most home units have under 3 hp so im hopeing it will be all good but if 2 much prob ill just swap for mates beach 240 v ,its a bit like yr mill 2nd hand older unit still better than asian new and the price is right ( even if i send a few 100 more for service and some more for motor)
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