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HOS

06-05-2010, 04:58 PM

quote:Originally posted by Jup

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Religion = blindfold and system of fear/control.

Demons and posession ?....

How did religion get dragged into this? I don't even see it mentioned in the article.

If you want to get into it, I'll happily oblige, but I'd rather talk about the aliens.

How did you come to know about them as a child?

(edited for spelling)

Sorry Jup, I shouldnt have mentioned the R word.

Had my own experiences from 5 years old onwards, was`nt best tbh.
They are real memories and not through regression.
Sends you down a path through life that hard to deal with when you know this reality is false. What we are indocrinated into believing isnt so.

John Mack the Harvard Psych was one of the founders within the medical profession accepting abductions are real.

Jup

06-05-2010, 05:18 PM

I can sympathise with you there mate. It's disheartening being told that something you've experienced for yourself isn't true - aspecially when it's by well meaning do-gooders (now I get the religious reference ;) ) Ignorance is a curse.

I don't know if it will mean anything to you or not, but (as with alien encounters) not all of us are alike. Anyway, enough of that...

Purely speculation, but I'd expect that the xenomorph from Siguorney Weavers "Alien" movies to be closer to the mark than a "Mars Attacks" scenario.

HOS

06-05-2010, 05:36 PM

quote:Originally posted by Jup

I can sympathise with you there mate. It's disheartening being told that something you've experienced for yourself isn't true - aspecially when it's by well meaning do-gooders (now I get the religious reference ;) ) Ignorance is a curse.

I don't know if it will mean anything to you or not, but (as with alien encounters) not all of us are alike. Anyway, enough of that...

Purely speculation, but I'd expect that the xenomorph from Siguorney Weavers "Alien" movies to be closer to the mark than a "Mars Attacks" scenario.

No one told me what happened wasnt true.
At 5 years of age when you are in abject terror after these events, its kinda hard to explain to your parents who are almost as frightened as I was. At 5 I could`nt explain what I was shown, things that even now I as an adult I cannot fully understand ;)
Things that do`nt fit within the framework of our world.

Plenty of people have these events, but most cannot remember.
I am not sure why I am able to remember. I think this may have been to do with my parents MAKING me remember and looking back to what had just happened. If they had`nt done that, the mind might have locked it out.

Either way at 5 or 6 years old it was pretty crap.
I do`nt consider myself special because of this and its more common than you might think.

Some poeple see them as demons and others see them as alien life forms. Thats what I was hinting at. :)

bladehunter

06-05-2010, 06:26 PM

I had my aluminium cranial protection installed below the skin, just so I wouldn't look so strange.....

IT'S THE FUCKEN PLATES IN THE CUPBOARDS THAT ARE THE ENEMY......WHY DOESN'T ANYONE TAKE ME SERIOUSLY ???????

Large

06-05-2010, 07:10 PM

Is an "Alium" an Alien with an Anal Speculum?

Surt

07-05-2010, 01:41 AM

i knew i was an alien since i'd been 6 i travelled across the universe and among the parallel worlds and gradually achieved the acme of non-doing... now i cant do a fark coz of the knowledge it'd hurt someone... somewhere... someone please pass me a sandwich!

uncle pervy

07-05-2010, 06:34 PM

i like tits

sen

07-05-2010, 07:05 PM

I fully shouldn't read this thread when drunk.

Wtf?

Cruisecontrol

07-05-2010, 08:37 PM

quote:Originally posted by sen

I fully shouldn't read this thread when drunk.

Wtf?

Lucky you.
I dare say that it makes a lot more sense than it does when reading it sober.

Surt

07-05-2010, 08:40 PM

has anyone ever thought of insects as not just aliens' mini robots but also as the hyper mind conglomerate monitoring the mankinds activities? not just monitoring in fact but manipulating as well... /the last house of commons elections have proven that either/ now they r working towards creating so-called nano robots
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gixkat

07-05-2010, 09:31 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by sen

I fully shouldn't read this thread when drunk.

Wtf?

Lucky you.
I dare say that it makes a lot more sense than it does when reading it sober.

well ive read it sober and now ive read it 3/4s pissed and im still thinking WTF! So i guess i'll ask seeing as no-one else has, Hos are you on drugs? and if so can i have some of them?
Im old skool im afraid we are all just organic matter that will eventually dissolve back into the earth we came from, no gods here no fuckin aliens, then again thats only my opinion.

Macca2010

07-05-2010, 10:03 PM

Fuck im spinning out by all of this alien stuff quick pass me the bong:D

bladehunter

07-05-2010, 10:19 PM

It's a lie......

IT'S THE PLATES I TELLS YAS IT'S THE PLATES

HOS

08-05-2010, 04:39 AM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

has anyone ever thought of insects as not just aliens' mini robots but also as the hyper mind conglomerate monitoring the mankinds activities? not just monitoring in fact but manipulating as well... /the last home elections have proven that either/ now they r working towards creating so-called nano robots
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Morgellons desease : nanofibres gene spliced with human DNA?
Escaped from a lab? or deliberately deployed needing to be triggered.

So much shit out here :D:D

Your up on the plane mate ;)[8D]

HOS

08-05-2010, 04:41 AM

Surt

08-05-2010, 06:08 AM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Morgellons desease : nanofibres gene spliced with human DNA?
Escaped from a lab? or deliberately deployed needing to be triggered.

So much shit out here :D:D

Your up on the plane mate ;)[8D]

yup ur absolutely right Hos, i just caught one in my pants :( squashed it, now they r trying to tear me arart and im freezing em with liquid nitrogen then burning out with a cig lighter... d'u have any idea what frequency they use? i'd rather into controlling them than into fighting, peace bros! ahh shit u bastards get wat u deserve!!!

Surt

08-05-2010, 06:24 AM

quote:Originally posted by gixkat

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by sen

I fully shouldn't read this thread when drunk.

Wtf?

Lucky you.
I dare say that it makes a lot more sense than it does when reading it sober.

well ive read it sober and now ive read it 3/4s pissed and im still thinking WTF! So i guess i'll ask seeing as no-one else has, Hos are you on drugs? and if so can i have some of them?
Im old skool im afraid we are all just organic matter that will eventually dissolve back into the earth we came from, no gods here no fuckin aliens, then again thats only my opinion.

we still know shit about the universe mate, so leaving apart decrepit myths and fables about gods demons and other religious bullshit, theres no reason why somewhere else there exists a higher developed civilization that can travel among galaxies or parallel worlds, like i said it all can be modelled mathematically and again, we still know shit about the universe [mate, so leaving apart decrepit myths and fables about gods demons and other religious bullshit, theres no reason why somewhere else there exists a higher developed civilization that can travel among galaxies or papallel worlds, like i said it all can be modelled mathematically and again] period :D
i dont believe in what i dont see, i just dont give a fuck! dna, clones, low temp plasma, high temp sperm - i dont care!!! i dont use it in bike building or elsewhere :)

Cruisecontrol

08-05-2010, 10:36 AM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

we still know shit about the universe mate, so leaving apart decrepit myths and fables about gods demons and other religious bullshit, theres no reason why somewhere else there exists a higher developed civilization that can travel among galaxies or parallel worlds

quote:Originally posted by Surt
i dont believe in what i dont see

Interesting contradiction there.
For somebody that considers religion "bullshit" you are showing a lot of [u]faith</u> in something unseen and unknown...

Surt

08-05-2010, 02:31 PM

nah its not faith mate its just a matter of intellect, an assumption based on that little bit of info we /or rather scientists/ obtained from centuries of observing and researching so i dont mind it once it relies on that basis, but i really hate when someone tries to prove religious bullshit with pseudo scientific finds! like saying that some god created the earth for 6 days is should be taken as for 6 geological epochs or eras! thats obvious bullshit, theres just 3 eras but their division is simply conditional u can divide it into as many eras as u want... why should one pull up primitive myths to the modern knowledge? oh now they even dare to fight with it, prohibit to teach darwin's theory of evolution at schools! [:0] well its just a business of mind corrupting and bullshitting after all!
so my intellect or common sense tells me its quite inlikely that the mankind (the life itself) was created by someone or have come by space armada from mega parsecs beyond but gradually developed from more primitive forms - wheres any contradiction in my words
[?]

Surt

08-05-2010, 02:57 PM

most of the 'normal' people havent become any wiser than their ancestors they just use the achievements of science, like electronics or vehicles but even though they r mostly educated their minds r weak and subject to modern technologies of manipulating, pop culture deliberately makes them infantile so they eat any shite given: whether gm food or brain plasticine! [}:)] they r trained to do what theyr said to buy what they said to think what they said, so after watching "2012" or "avatar" in 3d they can really believe it, once they believe in buying omo after commercials! :D

Surt

08-05-2010, 03:35 PM

ohh forgotten bout a traditional vid not the best song of theirs but still good and on the topic :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwZcl9sttyY

Redmohawk

08-05-2010, 03:57 PM

If there are aliens of and interlect high enough to work out the issues with inta stella travel (personaly i beleve this to be a strong possabilty due to the shear weight of numbers) I would think there Interlect would allow them to entertain themselves with worring about some primitive life form in the back corner of a smallish galaxy like ours . If by chance they did drop in it would be like studying monkeys for us, IE (US) some tool use, limited comunication, often violent, and soon to be extinct. Next specimin please lol.

Jup

08-05-2010, 04:32 PM

Religion branch of thread: I'm trying not to go there, truly I am, but it's not me who keeps bringing it up.

Aliens + God is like Moose + Checkoslovakians. Whether or not one is real has nothing to do with the other. I'd rather talk about the aliens here if we're not gonna talk bikes.

Alien branch of thread: Has anyone seen K-PAX? It's not only alien physiology that we have to consider, it's alien morality + methodology too.

We might not be as advanced as them technologically, but that doesn't necessitate that we're just ignorant monkeys to them either.

Large

08-05-2010, 04:39 PM

I seen kpax. That's the new tampax pad?

seriously...wasn't kpax about a nutcase (kevin spacey?) who goes back to being comatose after a brief period (lol) of clarity?

HOS

08-05-2010, 04:49 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

most of the 'normal' people havent become any wiser than their ancestors they just use the achievements of science, like electronics or vehicles but even though they r mostly educated their minds r weak and subject to modern technologies of manipulating, pop culture deliberately makes them infantile so they eat any shite given: whether gm food or brain plasticine! [}:)] they r trained to do what theyr said to buy what they said to think what they said, so after watching "2012" or "avatar" in 3d they can really believe it, once they believe in buying omo after commercials! :D

Yep the system is producing more and more droids to slavishly maintain the system without question and the lack of desire to question.
We see it so painfully ! The lack of motivation, lack of thought.
The system does`nt want thinkers ;)
Again your right on the money :D

Cruisecontrol

08-05-2010, 04:56 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

wheres any contradiction in my words
[?]

I thought it was pretty clear from my last post.

You first state that there is no reason why aliens can't exist, then in a later post say it is "an assumption".

All of which is contradicted by:

quote:Originally posted by Surt
i dont believe in what i dont see

HOS

08-05-2010, 05:15 PM

There is sufficient historical evidence that man interacted with other intelligent life froms here on this planet.
Looking at the ancient civilisations and writings ;)

The system tells poeple to believe they were all primtive races and barely had any tools.

I`ve been in the construction industry all my life and worked extensively with the big boys on projects in the UK and internationally. I know my construction. ;)

Take a peek at this construction work from Puma Punku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxvThL59enE
This wasnt made by primitive people using primitive technology.
The whole vid only lasts around 8 mins, but check the large block of stone at the 5 minute mark ? Any construction guy will tell you that was not made by primitives.
They had high technology too, they were as advanced if not more advanced than we are now.

So if some other of those ancient civilisations carried evidence of interaction with other intelligent species, then realistically they did.

Light year jump of "faith": maybe those intelligent species are still interacting with us but a bit more quietly ?
Maybe they never went away.

Too many people do`nt understand that the system is lying its fucking tits off to them. Once you accept the fact that the global system is bent in the extreme and we are being lied to on the grand scale, then you break the chains of your programming.

Break those shackles !! Be free intellectually :)
Take the shackles away and you lose the fear.

What do people fear ? They fear the unknown.
There is nothing we are not capable of knowing. :)
Enter that into your programming. [:p][:p]

HOS

08-05-2010, 05:16 PM

HOS

08-05-2010, 05:20 PM

The system dumbs you down and fills your head with trivial shite.

But hard evidence is out there that hasnt been removed, you have to look or rather have the desire to look.

The desire for knowledge is what`s been bread out of people :)

HOS

08-05-2010, 05:30 PM

From the country with some of the most major UFO activity,
came the starchild skull.
Found by chance in deep in a Mexican cave by explorers.

http://www.starchildproject.com/

Cruisecontrol

08-05-2010, 05:59 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Lets not play the semantics game. Surt speaks from the heart, same as I.

And I speak from logic and reason.

uncle pervy

08-05-2010, 06:02 PM

i still like tits

Hagarr

08-05-2010, 06:16 PM

You Guys Rock.

:) :)

gixkat

08-05-2010, 08:00 PM

It is amazing how all of us that don't believe in these "conspiracy theories" are "controlled by the system", I really get annoyed when someone tells me I'm just another robot who is mindlessly believing the trivial shite the system throws at me, there is another system out there it's main function is to fleece gullible people of their hard earned, by selling them the tripe they want to hear and read, take the Starchild site for instance, a donate button on every page of the site or better still "buy" the truth in ebook form.
These people tell you the system is lying to you and then set out to tell you what "really happened" Aliens, assasinations,911, moon landings, you name it the conspiracy industry is there telling you it didnt happen the way the system told you, just buy their book and they will tell you what really happened, there is a book out there that informs you that Martin Bryant didnt really kill those 37 innocent people down at Port Arthur, it was all a conspiracy to allow little Johnny Howard to take our high powered rifles off us.
I suppose you can label me a skeptic, yes one of those dreaded deniers of the truth, when in reality i just accept that we are a simple race that evolved from the slime long ago and we will all eventually end up back there, sorry i couldn't come up with a more romantic synopsis, just my opinion.

Cruisecontrol

08-05-2010, 08:12 PM

You forgot to mention all the money that our government is making simply by not telling us stuff...

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davio

08-05-2010, 08:41 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by Surt

wheres any contradiction in my words
[?]

I thought it was pretty clear from my last post.

You first state that there is no reason why aliens can't exist, then in a later post say it is "an assumption".

All of which is contradicted by:

quote:Originally posted by Surt
i dont believe in what i dont see

cant see any contradiction there, basic mathmatics says that life elsewhere in the universe is almost inevitable ,the laws of probability say given the number of stars and 6 billion years pretty well any possible event will happen(see self replicating DNA)
so theres your assumption
i too dont believe anything in that cannot be empirically proven but that does not mean i deny that it could exist ,unless of course it can be proven to not exist
so there is probably aliens/gods/and a planet of swedish nymphos whos breasts spout bourbon while they build streefighters and dream of fat old davio sex
as i havent seen them yet , i dont really believe they exist
note the difference

davio

08-05-2010, 08:56 PM

as to the rest of this thread i try to keep an open mind ,but my old refrigeration lecturer once told me
that possibilities are infinite but probabilities are finite ,,so start with whats probable
i find it hard to credit any alien would travel all the way across the galaxy and not announce their arrival
i mean whats in it for them? why go to all that effort?

HOS

08-05-2010, 09:50 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Lets not play the semantics game. Surt speaks from the heart, same as I.

And I speak from logic and reason.

No, in the instance to which I refer you were playing the semantics game.

HOS

08-05-2010, 09:54 PM

" HE WHO LIVES WITH UNTRUTH LIVES IN SPIRITUAL SLAVERY.
FREEDOM IS STILL THE BONUS WE RECEIVE FOR KNOWING THE TRUTH "

"IF WE AS SPIRITUAL BEINGS DO`NT STAND FOR SOMETHING,
WE WILL FALL FOR EVERYTHING "

and the speaker was ?

HOS

08-05-2010, 10:16 PM

quote:Originally posted by gixkat

It is amazing how all of us that don't believe in these "conspiracy theories" are "controlled by the system", I really get annoyed when someone tells me I'm just another robot who is mindlessly believing the trivial shite the system throws at me, there is another system out there it's main function is to fleece gullible people of their hard earned, by selling them the tripe they want to hear and read, take the Starchild site for instance, a donate button on every page of the site or better still "buy" the truth in ebook form.
These people tell you the system is lying to you and then set out to tell you what "really happened" Aliens, assasinations,911, moon landings, you name it the conspiracy industry is there telling you it didnt happen the way the system told you, just buy their book and they will tell you what really happened, there is a book out there that informs you that Martin Bryant didnt really kill those 37 innocent people down at Port Arthur, it was all a conspiracy to allow little Johnny Howard to take our high powered rifles off us.
I suppose you can label me a skeptic, yes one of those dreaded deniers of the truth, when in reality i just accept that we are a simple race that evolved from the slime long ago and we will all eventually end up back there, sorry i couldn't come up with a more romantic synopsis, just my opinion.

Fair comments, I understand your view point exactly.
We were all born into the same system, but when things happen that really seriously do`nt fit and screw your life up,
then your understanding changes and you have to find out.
Some people go through some major shit that does`nt fit in any way what we are taught as being reality.

Right from our early childhood the whole system starting with education, media, TV and the authorities constantly tells us
and teaches us and reinforces that everything is, in simple terms: "ABC" ?
But it isnt ABC or even XYZ.
The truth is there is no alphabet :)

Surt

09-05-2010, 12:44 AM

BWAHAHA the threads riding on glory! i dont talk from my heart but from my mind i guessed it was obvious: theoretically alliums [:p] r possible gods r not! and i dont believe in anything or anyone i just assume if it corresponds to my basic knowledge... i kunt see atoms and their particles, electrons protons neutrons but assume they r right provided the theory 's confirmed by practice: a-bomb, h-bomb, n-bomb... how can any one prove the existence of fucking dog...god?! thats below my intelligence :D
also i dont assume it possible for alluims to arrive in the past to build some fucking pile of shite or cast a stainless column in india, mohenjo fucking daro atlantice and stuff fancied me wen i was 11 :D now i aint that enthusuastic but materialistic im gonna live my darned life as well and full as possible i dont need any fucking alliens gods mason conspiracies i share Redmohawks opinion thats flat as! alliens possibly r but they aint infiltrated into our society u wouldnt of infiltrated into boongs' tribes nah u've come and chased them off their lands into desert no wonder! i will do the same to u when i come! [}:)]

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:18 AM

well i didnt mean to offend anyone with my last sentence i wasnt about to chase jolly good aussies off into deserts (and i'd of bluffed anyway [:p]) twas just a joke paraphrasing the idea that if alliens arrive they'd oust us from our places not taking a big care about how high were our technological cultural social and spiritual achievments (and frankly, i doubt whether we could prove them either! [}:)])

concerning the moon landing, i was about to start the thread in the nearest future to talk about the greatest humbug or even conspiracy ;) of the 20th century between yanks and commies ;) i guess it deserves a special topic!

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:30 AM

quote:Originally posted by Jup

Religion branch of thread: I'm trying not to go there, truly I am, but it's not me who keeps bringing it up.

Aliens + God is like Moose + Checkoslovakians. Whether or not one is real has nothing to do with the other. I'd rather talk about the aliens here if we're not gonna talk bikes.

Alien branch of thread: Has anyone seen K-PAX? It's not only alien physiology that we have to consider, it's alien morality + methodology too.

We might not be as advanced as them technologically, but that doesn't necessitate that we're just ignorant monkeys to them either.

religion and alliens' junction is in the fact that both r myths, there r sects worshipping alliens as gods lol! i reckon the difference is obvious: alliens if they are, are not supernatural beings, so even if tomorrows arvo some fukn 6 wing dudes will land and say theyve come with their chief jebus to judge us or save us they still woulnt be gods or archfukingangels, should one worship them? choice is urs we aint papuas taking a white man with a shooting stick (or with an i-phone [:p]) for a god? :)

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 09:51 AM

Surt is all good we Aussies are so relaxed it would take alot more than a bloke like yourself giving an example like that to upset us.

As far as religion goes for me , I think its a great tool for keeping the masses quiet calm and under control, and exelent for manipulation of the masses. Most mainstreem religions are based on rehashes of rehashes of anchent religions, these original religions were far more practical for the man of the time, providing dates for such things as correct harvest time for crops etc . Just look at the celtic rituals of their "religion" mostly based on natures cycles from the area( I consider this a recent religion , but it has very strong infulences on christian based religion in europe etc) As the people developing the christian religion realised if they didn't include the pagan rituals into there new one it would be far to dificult to perswade the masses to join and drop there old pagan ways. They had no issue moving easter and X-mas to a new date to suit the pagans lol

If you look further back into the past, back to the so called primitive peoples with limited writing etc, people assume they would have great difficulty in producing the great stone monolithic buildings without written words. Why ? they had about the same IQ as we do now , surly they were far better comunicators with the spoken word than we are now (due to nessesity) and just because they didnt write does not meen they didnt draw! Chimps dont write but they do draw lol .

The video explaining the great questions and eluding to the fact that aliens must have helped our forbears to build these places is quiet frankly offensive to me, Giving the example of a stone so hard dimond is the next hardest rock and the groves cut in it are so straight and thin as an example of alien influence is surly a joke? I can cut a line into granite with a staight bit of wood and some stone dust of the same material in no time and I am no stone mason (but was shown how to do it by a master stone mason lol ) Machining marks are produced by the same technical process esentially crinding the stones flat the same way giant mirrors for telescopes are made even today! Personally I think saying we needed aliens to produce a very nice pile of flat and carved big heavy rocks is a bit sad.

As far as the info of there being no trees where they built all this stuff , another joke on anyone that belives it ! There were tree's around the area but they were all used in the building process and running of the citys , reducing there abiltiy to sustain the city hence they became ghost towns. (proven several times docko's on it all over the place) Yes man is a slow learner we are still making the same dumb mistakes and shitting in our own kitchens now as we were 6,000 years ago!

Once man as a whole decided it was better=(easyer for some at the top) to live in larger and larger citys we doomed ourselves to obliteration. The problem is everyone no matter how well meaning likes an easyer life, this means the desire to gain more than you have is ingrained into us from a young age. The more we have the more we get used to and the more we consume, Powers that be would like to continue this process because the other option means death for all those who cant provide for them selves, call it a conspiracy or just life as we know it now.

Knowing this you can decide to drop out of the rate race and plenty do, Not just the bums on the street but people that just drop off the grid and live a life more in tune with nature. Problem is as a socity we consider these people excentric and not to be trusted lol.
I consider this otpion from time to time , but frankly I like my toys to much to do so but I do live a more alternate lifestyle than most lol

Anyway my rant is over till next time lol

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 11:10 AM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

concerning the moon landing, i was about to start the thread in the nearest future to talk about the greatest humbug or even conspiracy ;) of the 20th century between yanks and commies ;) i guess it deserves a special topic!

Why is it that every person that believes in aliens is a conspiracy theorist to boot?
I guess that there is some amusement in saying things that cannot be completely authenticated. Just chuck anything out there and then have the audacity to lay the burden of proof upon someone that does not believe the misguided ramblings.

Why did man not go to the moon?

I watched Mythbusters, they did a heap of stuff, it all added up (they even bothered to address some of the nonsensical conspiracy theories) and nothing came close to being faked. Or let me guess, they are in on it too...

Firstly, why would they bother saying they went to the moon when they didn't?

Secondly, with all these "cover ups" of alien activity (even though the majority of videos proving that aliens exist seem to come from NASA) and access to super fantastic alien technology (that they are hiding from the public to make a profit somehow) they could easily fly to the moon in their lunch break.

sharky

10-05-2010, 11:15 AM

Maybe they do make quick visits to the moon in their lunch breaks...:D
But seriously, can you imagine the fuss if it was revealed that they did have alien technology ?
The US gov. would be proven to be liars....and that they would never allow...

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 01:26 PM

Well the whole moon landing could be put to rest real easy , just re task an orbiting spy sat to look at the moon and present us with a few photos ! I wonder why they dont do it ?????? hmmmmmmm would stop all the BS being thrown about but they don't bother, seems strange to me . You cant use optical telescopes from the ground not possable with air distortion to see something that far away clear enough even with the bigest ground optical telescope and the US knew this when they "went there" I have no reson to not belive they went and managed to land , but i have no real proof that they did eather , with out a photo it never happened! Funny how several leading US rocket scientists have openly admitted the the some of the tech to do it again the same way has been "LOST"

Hmmmmmm Good reason for a conspiracy i think , IE where not sure how we did it but we can do it again (we think) and no we wont provide you with current photos of the evidence we did it the first time lol Was all a big rush to beat the Ruskis (they were far more advanced than the US in some ways ) Was all great PR for anti socalisim etc wether they got there or not!

Hillsy

10-05-2010, 02:08 PM

quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

Well the whole moon landing could be put to rest real easy , just re task an orbiting spy sat to look at the moon and present us with a few photos ! I wonder why they dont do it ??????

Because the conspiracy theorists will just say it's ANOTHER conspiracy.......:D

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 02:09 PM

They left reflective markers on the bloody thing!
Point a laser at them and they bounce right on back. If that isn't proof I don't know what is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orvMZn8L1f0

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 02:23 PM

quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

Well the whole moon landing could be put to rest real easy , just re task an orbiting spy sat to look at the moon and present us with a few photos ! I wonder why they dont do it ??????

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/16/japanese-selene-kaguya-lunar-mission-spots-apollo-15-landing-site-images/

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 04:01 PM

Cruise, they have rocks from there down here too , didnt say they havent had rockets there , just dubious they put people there . easy enough to drop off a laser reflector by remote and almost as easy to get rocks back without someone there , the ruskis did it back then but on mars lol alot further than the moon , but it shat itself once it got there lol

sharky

10-05-2010, 05:43 PM

Re: Mythbusters.
I 100% believe that 2 'all americaans' would go to an american facility and prove with the use of an american computer that they landed on the moon.....no bias obviously....

Bit like asking OCC to prove harleys have the best motors in the world [:o)]

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:12 PM

cheers mates!
Redmohawk i totally agree with ur point of view on religions and cults, just to mention one detail: now in the age of globalization and so called multi cultural bullshit, those who dont feel like merging or rather diluting oneselves in asian and african majority (in the planet's scale) try to regain roots in their ancient traditions culture beliefs thats why paganism is becoming so popular these days its also an opposition to oppression from authorities and 'mainstream cults' in police states, like usa or russia, well any country to a bigger or less degree... of course there always r fanatics ready to practice either newly invented druids rituals or 'black mass' or to burn witches [}:)] i aint talking bout the weirdos, but for the most of that kind of people including myself, its wat i've said above plus the wish to drop out of the rat race like u say to stop and think and find ones origin smashed by 'globalization'

Cruisecontrol i see u dont listen to me, i say I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE IN ALLIENS, IN THEIR PREHISTORIC VISITS, BUT ASSUME ALLIENS R POSSIBLE JUST DUE TO THE THEORY OF PROBABILITY but no theory can comfirm the existence of supernatural powers by definition or its not supernatural anymore

the same with 'believing' in 'conspiracies' i just try to evaluate what is likely and what is bullshit u may giggle but i think the mythbusters (and i've seen their 'busting' the moonlanding as well) r mass media whores pleasing their masters [}:)] - not masons but executive director, ad director etc who were obviously ordered by nasa - or why else they were allowed into nasa facilities, special equipment, received 'classified'/apparently washed up/ info etc? they also "enlightened" just a few aspects but left behind many more serious ones, no worries im preparing to start a new thread o this
and once again i dont BELIEVE the moon landing was fake but PRESUME it was so, considering the level of space technology, political situation and principal characters (like tricky dick nixon) of those years[8D]

uncle pervy i like tits to [:X]

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:14 PM

quote:Originally posted by sharky

Re: Mythbusters.
I 100% believe that 2 'all americaans' would go to an american facility and prove with the use of an american computer that they landed on the moon.....no bias obviously....

Bit like asking OCC to prove harleys have the best motors in the world [:o)]

bwahaha spot on mate thats wat ive been typing for a half an hour! [:I]

HOS

10-05-2010, 06:18 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by Surt

concerning the moon landing, i was about to start the thread in the nearest future to talk about the greatest humbug or even conspiracy ;) of the 20th century between yanks and commies ;) i guess it deserves a special topic!

Why is it that every person that believes in aliens is a conspiracy theorist to boot?
I guess that there is some amusement in saying things that cannot be completely authenticated. Just chuck anything out there and then have the audacity to lay the burden of proof upon someone that does not believe the misguided ramblings.

Why did man not go to the moon?

I watched Mythbusters, they did a heap of stuff, it all added up (they even bothered to address some of the nonsensical conspiracy theories) and nothing came close to being faked. Or let me guess, they are in on it too...

Firstly, why would they bother saying they went to the moon when they didn't?

Secondly, with all these "cover ups" of alien activity (even though the majority of videos proving that aliens exist seem to come from NASA) and access to super fantastic alien technology (that they are hiding from the public to make a profit somehow) they could easily fly to the moon in their lunch break.

The moonbases are already there on the dark side arent they ?

Isnt that the real reason for the secret Aurora space craft ? The big black triangle ?

NASA announced 2 or 3 years ago its intention to build a doomsday vault on the moon by 2020.
How long have they been there allready?
Lot of photos of the moon that clearly show structures on the surface.

HOS

10-05-2010, 06:23 PM

Buz Adrin hismelf says ET craft are real and his government are part of a massive cover up over their ongoing contact and liaison with "other intelligent species" or aliums [:p]

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:24 PM

yanks dont have means to do that Hos: they dont even have reliable rocket engines: they use ruski launchers or rent ruski engines for theirs, just a few ones 5 or so from wat i heard... their space program is a total fuck up as well as their economics in general

HOS

10-05-2010, 06:27 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

cheers mates!
Redmohawk i totally agree with ur point of view on religions and cults, just to mention one detail: now in the age of globalization and so called multi cultural bullshit, those who dont feel like merging or rather diluting oneselves in asian and african majority (in the planet's scale) try to regain roots in their ancient traditions culture beliefs thats why paganism is becoming so popular these days its also an opposition to oppression from authorities and 'mainstream cults' in police states, like usa or russia, well any country to a bigger or less degree... of course there always r fanatics ready to practice either newly invented druids rituals or 'black mass' or to burn witches [}:)] i aint talking bout the weirdos, but for the most of that kind of people including myself, its wat i've said above plus the wish to drop out of the rat race like u say to stop and think and find ones origin smashed by 'globalization'

Cruisecontrol i see u dont listen to me, i say I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE IN ALLIENS, IN THEIR PREHISTORIC VISITS, BUT ASSUME ALLIENS R POSSIBLE JUST DUE TO THE THEORY OF PROBABILITY but no theory can comfirm the existence of supernatural powers by definition or its not supernatural anymore

the same with 'believing' in 'conspiracies' i just try to evaluate what is likely and what is bullshit u may giggle but i think the mythbusters (and i've seen their 'busting' the moonlanding as well) r mass media whores pleasing their masters [}:)] - not masons but executive director, ad director etc who were obviously ordered by nasa - or why else they were allowed into nasa facilities, special equipment, received 'classified'/apparently washed up/ info etc? they also "enlightened" just a few aspects but left behind many more serious ones, no worries im preparing to start a new thread o this
and once again i dont BELIEVE the moon landing was fake but PRESUME it was so, considering the level of space technology, political situation and principal characters (like tricky dick nixon) of those years[8D]

uncle pervy i like tits to [:X]

Why do you consider aliens to be "supernatural" ?
Terms like that are part of the religionists way of instilling fear into people.
Other intelligent species in, on, near or around this planet would be "natural" ? ;)

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:29 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Buz Adrin hismelf says ET craft are real and his government are part of a massive cover up over their ongoing contact and liaison with "other intelligent species" or aliums [:p]

yeah and ilyumuzhinov (thats a name hard to write still harder to pronounce) claims he was abducted by aliums which fact is proven by his personnel missed him!! ;)

HOS

10-05-2010, 06:33 PM

Logistics :

* The existance of other intelligent life forms in our universe is undeniable.

* They may be widespread around the universe.

Leads to:

* Those other intelligent life froms may have been evolving for hundreds of thousands or millions of years.

" Some of them are likely to be so highly advanced their technology would be beyond our ability and intellect to understand.

Wild card:

* It is likely they have been here before judging by past historical evidence.

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:36 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Why do you consider aliens to be "supernatural" ?
Terms like that are part of the religionists way of instilling fear into people.
Other intelligent species in, on, near or around this planet would be "natural" ? ;)

where i said i considered alliens as supernatural beings?! [:0] i said they r absolutely natural if they really exist in the deep arse of outer space!! i even said that even if some fucking alliens would come and claim themselves as gods and angels (which is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY) they still won't be gods or supernatural beings but just scumbags of the deep shit universe hahaha!!!

Surt

10-05-2010, 06:40 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Logistics :

* The existance of other intelligent life forms in our universe is undeniable.

* They may be widespread around the universe.

Leads to:

* Those other intelligent life froms may have been evolving for hundreds of thousands or millions of years.

" Some of them are likely to be so highly advanced their technology would be beyond our ability and intellect to understand.

Wild card:

* It is likely they have been here before judging by past historical evidence.

thats all right with logic thus with myself, but still theres no real evidences cept the 'pulled by ears' ones :) if u can get the faroese idiom Hos [:p]

HOS

10-05-2010, 06:55 PM

Logistics:

* There have been many previous civilisations here.
Romans, Egyptians, Sumatrans, Aztecs, Mayans and much, much older.

* Some of the past civilisations and the archaelogical remains date back 17,000 years ago and longer.

* The past civilisations were not primitive. Some of them may have held technology as good or better than ours.

* The remains of those older civilisations contain real evidence of co-existance with other non-human intelligent species.

* Maybe those other non-human intelligent species never really went away.

* SETI is looking "out there" for alien life, perhaps they have`nt found it because its already here, below their feet ?

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:01 PM

What makes it hard to believe in the presence of alien life here right now, is the fact we are being lied to by elements within our own race/species.

The other major factor of why its hard to believe is people do not know the spiritual reasons for their existence and presence here on earth.

Our lives are not truelly random, that is a hard concept.
There is a longterm plan here :)

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:06 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Logistics :

* The existance of other intelligent life forms in our universe is undeniable.

* They may be widespread around the universe.

Leads to:

* Those other intelligent life froms may have been evolving for hundreds of thousands or millions of years.

" Some of them are likely to be so highly advanced their technology would be beyond our ability and intellect to understand.

Wild card:

* It is likely they have been here before judging by past historical evidence.

Complete and utter garbage.

There is this little thing called proof that your arguments seem to be lacking.

quote:Originally posted by Surt
Cruisecontrol i see u dont listen to me

It is not that I don't listen. You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message.

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:11 PM

Hades ? The underworld ? hollow earth? The Nazi`s and their underground bases, US military undergound bases, MOD underground bases, safe refuge, doomsday vaults, abductees report being taken to huge caverns below ground, there are huge cities underground globally, massive boring machines and some even nuclear powered....

Logistically great refuge/place to hide over millenia for another indiginous or much older species or two ?

[:p]:D

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:12 PM

Nope, still no proof whatsoever.

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:15 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Logistics :

* The existance of other intelligent life forms in our universe is undeniable.

* They may be widespread around the universe.

Leads to:

* Those other intelligent life froms may have been evolving for hundreds of thousands or millions of years.

" Some of them are likely to be so highly advanced their technology would be beyond our ability and intellect to understand.

Wild card:

* It is likely they have been here before judging by past historical evidence.

Complete and utter garbage.

There is this little thing called proof that your arguments seem to be lacking.

quote:Originally posted by Surt
Cruisecontrol i see u dont listen to me

It is not that I don't listen. You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message.

You ignorance shows.

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:15 PM

never heard of romanians or egyptian had ever had advanced technology exceeding the industrial revolution of the 19th century, they say perhaps egyptians and indians had very primitive experiments with electicity and electrolisis theoretically thats possible though dubious, but that doesnt change much: like redmohawk said their accumulated knolewdges were pretty high, imagine: to make a sword u must work out the whole technological chain from finding an ore, making tools and equipment, experimenting with additives to the raw iron etc... looks a tad more complicated than buying a tig welder, ally pipes and welding a custom frame? still its no bloody gift of alliens, if it was a titanium or unobtanium sword, then maybe!

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:19 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

You ignorance shows.

As does your intelligence...

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:24 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

never heard of romanians or egyptian had ever had advanced technology exceeding the industrial revolution of the 19th century, they say perhaps egyptians and indians had very primitive experiments with electicity and electrolisis theoretically thats possible though dubious, but that doesnt change much: like redmohawk said their accumulated knoledges were pretty high, imagine: to make a sword u must work out the whole technological chain from finding an ore, making tools and equipment, experimenting with additives to the raw iron etc... looks a tad more complicated than buying a tig welder, ally pipes and welding a custom frame? still its no bloody gift of alliens, if it was a titanium or unobtanium sword, then maybe!

Do`nt think the Romanians ever had anything other than tractors and fukking donkeys mate :D:D

Go back to the video I posted of Puma Punku and see the construction methods ? No way are those guys primitives, even using our current tech we couldnt build that.

To believe the pyramids and other global ancient structures were built using stone hammers and wooden rollers is someone taking the piss out of you. They are having a fucking laugh at our expense.
A retarded concept.

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:25 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

It is not that I don't listen. You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message.

perhaps its u that skip over my words to hold on ur point? the dispute is usually like that:
an argument - a counter argument

but u prefer to call it all just a lots of senseless words without trying to understand my position :D

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:25 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by HOS

You ignorance shows.

As does your intelligence...

Your co-habitee speaks for you. Tell it to shut up ?

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:30 PM

Again you waffle on with bullshit without addressing anything!
If so much construction was due to aliens, where is the proof? Surely something was left behind?
Everything that is here can be replicated here.

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:32 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

quote:Originally posted by Surt

never heard of romanians or egyptian had ever had advanced technology exceeding the industrial revolution of the 19th century, they say perhaps egyptians and indians had very primitive experiments with electicity and electrolisis theoretically thats possible though dubious, but that doesnt change much: like redmohawk said their accumulated knoledges were pretty high, imagine: to make a sword u must work out the whole technological chain from finding an ore, making tools and equipment, experimenting with additives to the raw iron etc... looks a tad more complicated than buying a tig welder, ally pipes and welding a custom frame? still its no bloody gift of alliens, if it was a titanium or unobtanium sword, then maybe!

Do`nt think the Romanians ever had anything other than tractors and fukking donkeys mate :D:D

Go back to the video I posted of Puma Punku and see the construction methods ? No way are those guys primitives, even using our current tech we couldnt build that.

To believe the pyramids and other global ancient structures were built using stone hammers and wooden rollers is someone taking the piss out of you. They are having a fucking laugh at our expense.
A retarded concept.

theres a wish theres a way? if some fucking faraoh had the whole cunt'ry to please him, why couldnt they build him a pile of shit to bury him in? otoh why shouls alliens bother to help them? is pyramid a fucking portal to another dimension or galaxy?

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:32 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

It is not that I don't listen. You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message.

perhaps its u that skip over my words to hold on ur point? the dispute is usually like that:
an argument - a counter argument

but u prefer to call it all just a lots of senseless words without trying to understand my position :D

No mate, it applies to your bike build threads too.
I just lack the patience to try and constantly get your point.

HOS

10-05-2010, 07:34 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

Again you waffle on with bullshit without addressing anything!
If so much construction was due to aliens, where is the proof? Surely something was left behind?
Everything that is here can be replicated here.

The truth is out mate, not even those who hide within others can stop it.

gixkat

10-05-2010, 07:36 PM

Care to bang your head Dan?;)
http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1273577335.jpg

Hillsy

10-05-2010, 07:36 PM

I think we're gonna have to hide the X-Files vids from you two.....:D

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:37 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by Surt

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

It is not that I don't listen. You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message.

perhaps its u that skip over my words to hold on ur point? the dispute is usually like that:
an argument - a counter argument

but u prefer to call it all just a lots of senseless words without trying to understand my position :D

No mate, it applies to your bike build threads too.
I just lack the patience to try and constantly get your point.

well cant help it!
but now seemingly u skip the matter for a totally different one, r we talking about bikes here?

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:42 PM

quote:Originally posted by gixkat

Care to bang your head Dan?;)

Surely that is an alien wall. We do not have the technology to place one stone block on another!

Cruisecontrol

10-05-2010, 07:44 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt
well cant help it!
but now seemingly u skip the matter for a totally different one, r we talking about bikes here?

No, my point is that I can never understand your point regardless of the topic. :D

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:50 PM

there r no many words in fact :
my argument: alliens r theoretically possible though there r no evidence of their previous or current presence on the earth; gods, angels and demons r not possible as supernatural mythic creatures

ur counter argument: Why is it that every person that believes in aliens is a conspiracy theorist to boot? [:0]

my argument: i dont belive in alliens i just assume the probability of their existence

ur counter argument: You use a hell of a lot of words to say not much at all. In the end it is a matter of skipping over the lot and making a vague guess at your intended message... it applies to your bike build threads too.

sorry but i cant see any point in ur words other than just a wish to contradict me :D

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:51 PM

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

quote:Originally posted by Surt
well cant help it!
but now seemingly u skip the matter for a totally different one, r we talking about bikes here?

No, my point is that I can never understand your point regardless of the topic. :D

yup that wat i sad! [^]

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 07:55 PM

Surt I feel your Vibes and feel the same from about 17 posts ago! I really love this site I can get a hardon from hot chicks , be revolted by something scary on the same thread, and jump to another section have my mind stimulated from looking at amazing engenering, and tools that make me wet with excitment (the new mill post) then just look at great bikes .

All followed with a healthy discusion about the probability of an alien attempting to probe my neather regions in the near future if they havent already without my knowing.
As far a giant super shelters to ride out some future apoccaliptical event and a great conspirassy I'm sure there a a few about but full of aliens? Hmmm why would they bother realy if there so advanced past us i doubt they'd need to hide at all. If we're the ones hiding I think the game is up if we are talking about it on a public forum lol.

The interesting part i find about inter stella travel isnt the difficulty in building a ship or the drive system etc its the fact the with our limited understanding of physics at the moment, we belive it would take about 10 times the total energy of the whole planet to travel 30 light years let alone the distances more likely to be needed (around 300 light years at the minimum this is a walk in our local park not a great distance ) And this is for a small ship not a big one.

The best part is its as good as free entertainment with some education included, even if you have to use some health secptisisum with it lol.

Surt

10-05-2010, 07:55 PM

HOS ur THE fucking serpent now the whole asf gunna go kitten coz of ur fucking aliums BWAHAHAHA!!!

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 08:01 PM

hmmm love it still lol

gixkat

10-05-2010, 08:04 PM

quote:Originally posted by HOS

quote:Originally posted by Jup

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Religion = blindfold and system of fear/control.

Demons and posession ?....

How did religion get dragged into this? I don't even see it mentioned in the article.

If you want to get into it, I'll happily oblige, but I'd rather talk about the aliens.

How did you come to know about them as a child?

(edited for spelling)

Sorry Jup, I shouldnt have mentioned the R word.

Had my own experiences from 5 years old onwards, was`nt best tbh.
They are real memories and not through regression.
Sends you down a path through life that hard to deal with when you know this reality is false. What we are indocrinated into believing isnt so.

John Mack the Harvard Psych was one of the founders within the medical profession accepting abductions are real.

Care to enlighten us as to what happened when you were a child Hos?

Surt

10-05-2010, 08:05 PM

quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

Surt I feel your Vibes and feel the same from about 17 posts ago! I really love this site I can get a hardon from hot chicks , be revolted by something scary on the same thread, and jump to another section have my mind stimulated from looking at amazing engenering, and tools that make me wet with excitment (the new mill post) then just look at great bikes .

All followed with a healthy discusion about the probability of an alien attempting to probe my neather regions in the near future if they havent already without my knowing.
As far a giant super shelters to ride out some future apoccaliptical event and a great conspirassy I'm sure there a a few about but full of aliens? Hmmm why would they bother realy if there so advanced past us i doubt they'd need to hide at all. If we're the ones hiding I think the game is up if we are talking about it on a public forum lol.

The interesting part i find about inter stella travel isnt the difficulty in building a ship or the drive system etc its the fact the with our limited understanding of physics at the moment, we belive it would take about 10 times the total energy of the whole planet to travel 30 light years let alone the distances more likely to be needed (around 300 light years at the minimum this is a walk in our local park not a great distance ) And this is for a small ship not a big one.

The best part is its as good as free entertainment with some education included, even if you have to use some health secptisisum with it lol.

thanks mate, i enjoyed the thread before its turned into a pointless words bandying... as for space travel, we r still to primitive to use thermo nuke energy cept h-bomb, wat about alleged anti substance? we know shit about the universe or even the earth's structure, only theories...

Jup

10-05-2010, 08:37 PM

quote:Originally posted by Surt
thanks mate, i enjoyed the thread before its turned into a pointless words bandying... as for space travel, we r still to primitive to use thermo nuke energy cept h-bomb, wat about alleged anti substance? we know shit about the universe or even the earth's structure, only theories...

What worries me more is what we'll do to ourselves while we're trying to figure it all out

Redmohawk

10-05-2010, 08:46 PM

surt even anti matter has its limitations lol the problem is "time" if you dont mind traveling at say 100,000 Mph (speed of light is about 11 million Mph) you can go anywhere you like on a good tank of rocket fuel. Problem is to get anywhere "interesting" like somewhere we might theorise there is a high potential of someone else to talk to it would take say 33000 years using "theoretical" current tech to take a few people. Every time you double the speed you square the energy used so to get there at 200,000 miles an hour and halve your trip time to "only" 16000 years you would use 4 times as much fuel (we dont have a tank big enough and we have to accelerate all that extra weight as well) if you want to go twice as fast again you need another four times the fuel again so 16 times the fuel of 100,000 Mph you see the problem thats the first hurdel to getting to the speed of light (energy to get up to speed is just stupid ) we could used all the earths energy (distroying the matter with fision/fusion) and only just get to just under the speed of light .

To travel such a great distance and time we would have to bend time/space and travel at multipuls of "C" (C is the speed of light) this is theoreticaly possable if you follow one line of physics as your not actually in this dimension anymore and out of the issue of traveling at light speed issues drop by the way side. But to rip through the time space envelope is going to take even more energy lol

String theroy basicly says that everything in our dimension is made in its smallest parts of vibrating strings of energy , different vibrations cause different affects and produce different particals . We have proved one partical can directly affect another partical separated by the planet earth one side to the other at the same time (faster than the speed of light) so who know what we may discover in the future.

If everything truly is just different forms of energy , maybe there is some way of traveling between multipul universes and times places instantly. But i doubt our tech will find it for a millennia if at all.