MP Abducted by Aliums !!

[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by gixkat


quote:Originally posted by HOS


quote:Originally posted by Jup


quote:Originally posted by HOS

Religion = blindfold and system of fear/control.

Demons and posession ?....

How did religion get dragged into this? I don't even see it mentioned in the article.

If you want to get into it, I'll happily oblige, but I'd rather talk about the aliens.

How did you come to know about them as a child?

(edited for spelling)


Sorry Jup, I shouldnt have mentioned the R word.

Had my own experiences from 5 years old onwards, was`nt best tbh.
They are real memories and not through regression.
Sends you down a path through life that hard to deal with when you know this reality is false. What we are indocrinated into believing isnt so.


John Mack the Harvard Psych was one of the founders within the medical profession accepting abductions are real.


Care to enlighten us as to what happened when you were a child Hos?


I would under other conditions, but not here where it would be open to ridicule by some members. these events are very personal and difficult to put into words.
Its difficult to describe and explain what happens in our terms if you like? People do`nt have any control over these things, saying no isnt an option.

Some of my friends have their own experiences and their family too and some of what goes on is terrifying, but there is no one to go to for help or support. Its a bad situation and although people like to take the piss, it can happen to anyone.

More so in recent years I have been having increasing UFO sightings and other strange events. I don`t know why the increase, I`m not frightened don`t get me wrong. ;) I lost the ability to feel fear a long time ago.

People can say what they like: I`m a nutter or I`m unintelligent or whatever, but I come from a very highly specialised professional background and had more letters after my name than most people have in their names prior to my bad bike smash. So what people call me means absolutely nothing to me. ;)

There comes a time when you have to find your own answers and that means you have to look down both barrels of the loaded truth :)

[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by Surt

HOS ur THE fucking serpent now the whole asf gunna go kitten coz of ur fucking aliums BWAHAHAHA!!!


Its all good amongst bothers ;)

Angel, demon, watcher or just human, which one are you ? :)

[latheboy]

quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

Every time you double the speed you square the energy used so to get there at 200,000 miles an hour and halve your trip time to "only" 16000 years you would use 4 times as much fuel (we dont have a tank big enough and we have to accelerate all that extra weight as well) if you want to go twice as fast again you need another four times the fuel again so 16 times the fuel of 100,000 Mph you see the problem thats the first hurdel to getting to the speed of light


I've always thought that was rubbish.
In deep/open space (no one can hear you scream:D) there is NO gravity thats strong enough to bring you to a stop, so if you are sitting in your streetfightered rocketship and give it some gas you will accelerate untill you get off the go pedal. At the point of getting off the gas you will travel at the same speed that you reached when accelerating.
Remember there is no friction in space, no gravity that is strong enough to really interact with the vehicle.
It is a frictionless drive line, the only thing that is trying to stop you are the particles in space, a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
If you keep on the gas you should keep accelerating all the time.
The hard part is when there is nothing for your rocket to push against. You need something for the thrust to act apon, if you have no gound to push on it becomes very hard to move.

[Redmohawk]

Very close to right there latheboy but not quite on the mark, yes there is a vacume in space and very very little resistance from matter to slow you down but this is not the limmit of you max speed , "thrust" is the limit when a rocket engine produces thrust it doesnt push aginst the earth to devolope life is is simply pushing against the rocket (equal and opposite reaction) so if you engine burns a conventional fuel such as ox and a hydro carbon your final total rocket speed is limited by the exit velocity of the thrust

IE flame speed of engine = rocket max speed - losses (granted verry low)

To push a rocket past conventional rocket speeds to inter stella travel speeds you will need a engine that has a propellant with exit velocitys of massive velocitys near light speed (electrons travel at near light speed) Using a Nuk generator to provide energy to essentally an antenna of massive power levels you can produce a (electric) rocket engine that throecticaly can get you rocket to close to the speed of light. The problem then falls back to mass and time , to produce enough thrust to move you space ship at a velocity even near the speed of light you need to throw out a masive anount of electrons and those electrons have to come from the mass of your space ship.

NASA already have prototypes of these engines developed for long distance (out of the solar system) unmaned spacecraft that would travel at extreem speeds to far distant points in space and return to earth to provide real hard data on cosmic radiation affects of various substances and data recording etc . But they are only prototypes , as we seem to have an issue launching Nuk powered stuff into the air unless it has a weapon status lol

There are also LASER powered engines that have beed developed to reduce mass of your rocket to assist in getting it to high speeds .
Ideally your hypothetical intersteller rocket to visit aliens would be launched from earth into orbit around the earth with rail gun assistance then assembeled in space , relaunched from orbit with a booster rocket of massive size, then pushed from a massive (more energy than we can currently proved from all our electrical generators on the planet) lazer mounted on the moon to the rear of our space ship to accelerate it as much as we can with out using its own power sorce, once it is to far away to accelerate efectively from here the on board engine would kick in providing thrust to contine to accelerate the rocket to near light speed but then after all that your still only doing say 3/4 light speed used most of your energy on the planet to get there. Sure you can shut off your engine and coast for a looooooooooooooooooong time but at 3/4 light speed your going to be traveling for 4000 year to get to where you need to be lol

[Redmohawk]

And as your prob aware the friction on an object in space will react the same as in any other enviroment ie friction is a function of the square of velocity , only the intial friction is different

IE water has a friction co eficient of say 100 (picked as a random number , no real meaning )
air has a fricction co eficient of say 1 (so it is 100 times easyer to move through air than water,again just a number out of the eather no real fact)
space has a friction co eficient of say 0.0000001 so a good fart will make you move a signicicant distance lol as the hydrogen atoms you speek of are very far appart and you just dont bump into many .

But what happens if there are 2 to every cubic meter and say your hot streetfightered rocket without the plastic faring and shit is say 2 square meters frontal area and your traveling at 100,000 kph ? those 2 particals you will see 4 very meter you travel and at that speed you will hit 6,666,666.66 recering particals a second (funny how that 666 came up eh lol) now if you were traveling at 3/4 the speed of light you would hit 880,000,000 particals a second! Air we breath is about 10 to the 25th or 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 partical to a cubic meter shit i hate math with real big numbers lol.

So at the 3/4 the speed of light your going to be bumping into alot of shit but I doubt your going to need a wind screen to stop the bugs making a mess of your Visor , but it you do see a bug at that speed your more than fucked lol It would be as bad as hitting a planet at 10,000 kph energy wise .

[Jup]

Which then also leaves questions about coping with small collisions at massive speed, "small" being a relative term of course.

[Redmohawk]

Jup alls good you just turn on your deflector screens lol anything bigger than a few microns across will distroy the ship with repeated bombardment, what i want to know is what do you do for 4,000 years in a tin can to keep yourself enertained lol If you used gryo genics to freeze yourself for the trip i think you'd prob have a few issues with maintinance at the end of the trip lol even if you got "up" from your slumber once a year for a week to check shit (and grease the bearings on the watamcallitthingamebob let alone the phase modulator and dylithium crystals) after 4,000 years you have got up and been awake for 80 years just in maintinance I'm sure you could split the work load between a few people but fuck me what a job, writting out the roster getting everyone to aggree on a time for meetings , calling ahead for spares would be tricky to lol

[latheboy]

After the accident "Holly" piloted Red Dwarf away from earth and only stopped accelerating when the ship had passed the speed of light. This caused all sorts of problems, but once the ship slowed down time had accerarated far beyond the expected and Frankenstein's ofspring had evolved into a new race. Hence we now know CAT.

Red dwarf was designed to catch all the hydrogen atoms and use them for fuel. It must have a bloody good engine to run off 2 maybe 3 atoms per cubic meter.
I seen it with my own eyes so it must be real:D

[Redmohawk]

Now thats what I call fuel efficiency ! Using the hydrogen atoms out in front to power your craft is a resonable hypothisis (given we are discussing this on a streetfighter biker web site and seem to be all mad anyhow lol) Using fusion of said hydrogen particals into helium (ie a mini sun in your spaceship) and then using the resultant energy to push the craft forward has been proposed as a viable meens for over 20 years the main drawback still comes down to mass.

The energy provided by the particals sucked into the front of your intersella space hoover need to provide enough thrust to maintain your forward momentum against the drag of your Hoover through space , this as pointed out earlyer is less than walking through the air we breathe (even at silly speeds with a small craft, but a craft large enough to travel in and catch particals of any use would be as big as a football field in diametre such as Red Dwarf) but none the less there is drag that has to be balanced by thrust to maintain your near light speed travel. To catch enough particals you need to be already traveling at said speed so acceleration has to be provided by some other means , to accelerate an object in space you need thrust this is provided (with the help of newtons law) by an equal and oposite reaction to expelling a mass vecctored in the opsit direction to where you want to go.

So if your hot rod streetfightered Interstella space hoover lightened of all plastic and dobererys not nessasary for anything but balls to the wall speed is 1000 kg (must be made of unobtanium) to accelerate it to the 3/4 the speed of light all you have to do is eject the same mass (1000kg) from the rear of your space hoover at 3/4 the speed of light ! and away you go , then the easy part is keeping the equivelent of a sun inside your ship without burning your leg like old Burt Munro and open your throttle up and belt around the place at speed for all eternity lol

When do we start building this rocket anyway? lol I think i have a source of pallets for something far more practical but just as silly to build and the area to put it is def a go possable start in late August !!!!!

[HOS]

But you do`nt need massive speed if you have the technowizardry ? [8D]

If you have the right gizmo`s you can slip into the partitioning between dimensions, travel for 2 nano seconds and pop back out into this dimension having travelled half way across the universe [:p]

[Redmohawk]

Yes HOS this is true and if you follow the string therory school of thought this is entirely possable along with the idea of a multiverse so being able to hop from one dimension to to another and from one universe to another aulternate universe, and i do belive there is the possability of doing so in some way if we crack the physics. It is quite possable that aliens have done just this eons before we were even slime.

But going really really really fast sounds much cooler especally on a streetfightered space hoover!

[Surt]

glad the thread returned into a 'normal' course [8D] yup probably interstellar travels can be possible only if the hobos can sneak between dimensions or branches of the universe if its really spiral as some astronomists presume... BELIEVE! [}:)]

[Surt]

quote:Originally posted by HOS


quote:Originally posted by Surt

HOS ur THE fucking serpent now the whole asf gunna go kitten coz of ur fucking aliums BWAHAHAHA!!!


Its all good amongst bothers ;)

Angel, demon, watcher or just human, which one are you ? :)




I am Surt av Muspel the son of Jormungandr The World's Serpent [}:)]

[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by Surt


quote:Originally posted by HOS


quote:Originally posted by Surt

HOS ur THE fucking serpent now the whole asf gunna go kitten coz of ur fucking aliums BWAHAHAHA!!!


Its all good amongst bothers ;)

Angel, demon, watcher or just human, which one are you ? :)




I am Surt av Muspel the son of Jormungandr The World's Serpent [}:)]


Is that Yorkshire ?

[HOS]

This is a daily visit for me with new UFO vids and UFO news articles every day:

http://www.realufos.net/

Just for fun :)

[Redmohawk]

Surt think of time and space like a 3d block of soft foam say 1 meter square, now squash it in one dimention so its like a flate sheet of paper its still the same stuff just flattened now bend it so the ends touch like a big squashed S if your at one side of the foam and you take the long way around (normal flight in space ship it will take you X amount of time ) but if you can do the same thing with space in reality and manage to break out of the normal direction of flow skip to the other side of the S you can jump a great distance in no time.

The dificulty in this form of transport as i see it ,is breaking out of this dimention and returning to it where you want to be, for a start once your out of this dimention you cant see it anymore so how do you know where to jump back in lol .

[Jup]

Do I have to stick my ankle behind my head and hold my tongue just right whilst I'm squishing the foam?

[Redmohawk]

It wont work otherwise Jup how did you know are you an alien?????

[Surt]

quote:Originally posted by HOS


quote:Originally posted by Surt


quote:Originally posted by HOS


quote:Originally posted by Surt

HOS ur THE fucking serpent now the whole asf gunna go kitten coz of ur fucking aliums BWAHAHAHA!!!


Its all good amongst bothers ;)

Angel, demon, watcher or just human, which one are you ? :)




I am Surt av Muspel the son of Jormungandr The World's Serpent [}:)]


Is that Yorkshire ?


nah chichestershire [:p]

[Surt]

quote:Originally posted by Redmohawk

Surt think of time and space like a 3d block of soft foam say 1 meter square, now squash it in one dimention so its like a flate sheet of paper its still the same stuff just flattened now bend it so the ends touch like a big squashed S if your at one side of the foam and you take the long way around (normal flight in space ship it will take you X amount of time ) but if you can do the same thing with space in reality and manage to break out of the normal direction of flow skip to the other side of the S you can jump a great distance in no time.

The dificulty in this form of transport as i see it ,is breaking out of this dimention and returning to it where you want to be, for a start once your out of this dimention you cant see it anymore so how do you know where to jump back in lol .


yup i called it a branch, rather a coil or fold anyway its all but a theory so itd take ages to discover research and learn to use it... perhaps some alumins have had a few thousands years to succeed, but i havent seen them around yet... Hos yet! [8D]

[HOS]

This British Civil Servant talked to a group called Majestic about aliens walking amongst us....

http://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/4726646._Kept_in_dark_over_aliens_/

[HOS]

1 in 5 people believe aliens walk amongst us...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6374B220100408

[Redmohawk]

Haha around here (in shepparton) 1 in 5 people think there GOD ! Don't make it true , meth a strange drug lol

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by HOS

1 in 5 people believe aliens walk amongst us...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6374B220100408


"1 in 5 people believe aliens walk amongst us... at least, that's what 20 percent of people polled in a global survey believe"

Doesn't look as good when you use the whole sentence, does it?

[Hillsy]

Is that 20% of 1 in 5 people? That's 4% then.....

[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol


quote:Originally posted by HOS

1 in 5 people believe aliens walk amongst us...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6374B220100408


"1 in 5 people believe aliens walk amongst us... at least, that's what 20 percent of people polled in a global survey believe"

Doesn't look as good when you use the whole sentence, does it?


Ayyy ?????

1 in 5 = 20% Yes ? No ? What ? :D

Its an average for all countries polled.
China and India had around 40% believing aliens walk amongst us, but thats fair comment as they are not part of our western indocrination/propoganda.

[HOS]

Tell you summat guys......come round our town centre with me and play the "spot the vaguely humanoid life form" game ?

Fukkin scary round here, genetics gone bad ! [xx(]:D
Reverse evolution mates [^]