Guard dogs

[336LJ]

anyone know their breeds and more specifically the temperament.

Our last dog was fucking retarded and has gone missing - the old dog is a good guard dog but can't be bothered getting up to attack anyone anymore. both of them were kelpie X - and HATED cops and black fellers! lol.

Anyone got any suggestions on what breed to look for that is smart enough not to bark at a plastic bag rolling up the road in the wind, but mean enough to cause a bit of damage to anyone who jumps the fence. Looking for something fairly large too - so even if we get a dumbass it still looks like a bad thing to have to deal with.

We have a 1yo too - part of the reason I don't give a shit about the dog that went missing is cause it was a snappy fuckwit and unpredictable around the young feller. Been a few times I wished I had the shotty at home so I could "deal" with the thing after it started going rabbid at the kid or other dog.

we are the only fully cleared block among the rest of the well hidden 5 acre blocks thats open for all the traffic to come past and see all the bikes n shit and suss it all out - especially when we have the shed opened up.

[Yamie]

German Shepards are gr8 guard dogs and they are good around kids. I could take mine to work (security) and come home in the morning and he would play with the kids. They are very bright dogs too:)

[Jup]

Electric fence.

If you're still dead set on a dog though, Alsatians and Dobermans are known to be smart and easily trainable. Personally, I would never mix a guard dog with a pet dog though.

[Gitzy]

Ranks 1 to 10
Brightest Dogs

Understanding of New Commands: Less than 5 repetitions.

Obey First Command: 95% of the time or better.


Rank Breed
1 Border Collie
2 Poodle
3 German Shepherd
4 Golden Retriever
5 Doberman Pinscher
6 Shetland Sheepdog
7 Labrador Retriever
8 Papillon
9 Rottweiler
10 Australian Cattle Dog


My Rotties are Ultra smart and brilliant around kids.. 99% of barks result in someone at door or fence..

[67-FKD]

Mate i got a dobermen, i got him for security work but never ended up getting him trained, and a few times whilst working with him drunkin idiots would just run for the pure fact he is a doberman!

My bloke isnt socialised much so pretty much doesnt like anyone apart from family members, new people can be introduced to him (like when i get a new girl) but we gotta go to a neutral place like the beach to do it, but mate, if somone jumps ya fence and sees a dobe there they are going to think twice!

[Yamie]

quote:Originally posted by Jup

Electric fence.

If you're still dead set on a dog though, Alsatians and Dobermans are known to be smart and easily trainable. Personally, I would never mix a guard dog with a pet dog though.


If a dog knows its part of a family it will look after the family its a pack thing. Sorry I love my German Shepards:D

[Yamie]

This is SJ he work as my security guard dog for six years and saved my ass a number of times until he retired 4 years ago. Sadly he passed away Friday 29/5/09 aged 12 and half. In memory of my Best Mate RIP Big Fella
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[sen]

German shephard is my vote too. Had one growing up as our guard dog and he was bloody awesome. He'd curl up and watch telly with us as kids and also treated our cat as his own baby but would seriously go nuts at anyone that came near our house.

[Gitzy]

Shephard, Doberman, Rottweiler, Germans dont fuck about.. love em all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ5YVMRRsLc

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[Redmohawk]

My Best mate trains dogs as guard dog's attack dogs etc , NEVER EVER use a prof trained dog as a pet!!!!!!!!!!! Ever is his advice. Just not worth the risk with loved ones!

The problem is most of the pure breeds of a good size and the right intelagence are a little flighty for young kids, IE doberman, rotties are ok but i find them a little random some are smart but some are dumb as dog shit and lazy lol. Labs are great but look like the dog next door and no one is scared of a lab . German sheppard prob your best choice for pure breed. Or American bull dog (not a pit bull, very different !)

But if your looking for a combination fam pet and something suitable for protecting your stuff through intimidation a mixed breed is also great choice for intelagence with size, Blue healer mixed with something larger seems to be a good combo. I've had 2 Blue healer cross american bull dog Very big very smart and placid with my son from age 1 to 8 very fam orentated . Bitch i had ripped the calf muscle off a guy trying to steal shit out of my yard in 2002 . Main prob is developing a repore with the new dog if your getting an adult or puppy takes ages to get to intimidating size.

My current dog is a great dane cross ridge back cross american bull dog (Black, bitch) she is a great guard dog, barks when needed , is resonably large but not as big as a great dane eats very little (18kg bag about every 6 weeks just open and put in shed she feeds herself) plus table scraps every second night. She isnt the brightest dog i've had by a long shot (but trains up well), but not dumb eather. Never bitten anybody but bailed a few up and made then very nervious lol.
Good luck.

[Gitzy]

Always had pure bred Rotties or German Shepherds all my life, never prof trained, but protected house and family to no end.. very faithful and wonderful with children, not one drama in over 20 years.. currently have 2 Rotties and 2 Beagles.. beagles are useless, braindead things (Ask Jacktar) but i love em.. i'm not a fan of crossbred dogs, but thats just a personal thing..

Bull Terriers. Have had two as pets that were very protective of family and property but my kids could pull their ears and do all of the normal things kids do to dogs without a problem.

They may not be the smartest critters but from my experience, they were the most loyal.

My mother has also had a Staffy and an American Bull Dog. Same story with each of them. All four were house dogs.

Currently have a 12-year-old Labrador but am looking for the right Bull Terrier pup.

[Yamie]

Gitzy your a fuckin legend:D
I've spent the last 16 or more as a dog handler in the sercurity ind and I've seen some very good dogs go to the wrong handler and turn into pussy. I've had the best trianers say there dog's are the best and submitted them. Dogs are a alot more brighter than we are.

[KATO ZX7]

I grew up with an ex-police trained Alsation.

She apparently would sit next to my pram and even if you tryed to get a look in at the baby, she'd go off her head!!
Best dog ever.

Currently i have a Boxer and Boxer x ridgeback, not the brightest but not the stupidest either. The sight of many door to door sellers packing themselves when they come to my front door is priceless :D
Im with redmohawk on this, trained guard dogs are just that, i dont think id mix it in with my young family.
If you want a dog that'l guard your yard you'd find that any sort of breed would be happy to do it.

Haven't we got someone round her with intimate, personal knowledge of training dogs for this type of work? Hopefullyhe'll join in with advice.

[BANDITROD]

get yourself a bull mastif great with kids and big enough to scare anyone off or even a staffy i have 2 staffys and they are very good with the kids and dont let anyone in our yard when we are not about

[Yamie]

quote:Originally posted by playswithnitro

Haven't we got someone round her with intimate, personal knowledge of training dogs for this type of work? Hopefullyhe'll join in with advice.


Jakam04

[Yamie]

I gave up training other people as it took longer to train them than the dog:D

[Anakist]

I have two dane mastiff crosses. Fucking huge, scary looking, but my two nieces who are 4 and 6 boss them around and they love it.

One is reasonably smart and going on 10, the other is all but brain dead but is only 2 and a half and part boxer as well so hopefully he gets better.

Don't bark at people walking past, but keep the yard clear of cats / unwanted people.

James

James

[Cruisecontrol]

quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

Always had pure bred Rotties or German Shepherds all my life, never prof trained, but protected house and family to no end.. very faithful and wonderful with children, not one drama in over 20 years..


And I would have said the same thing till a few years ago.
We had a rottie growing up and was a fantastic dog, with the best temperament. She died and my parents chose to get another pure bred rottie.
I refuse to let my three year old son near her as there is something just not right.
If he walks past the back door alone this dog tries to eat him through the glass (my sisters son also) and it is in no way playful.
My parents got this dog as a pup and have been nothing but loving to her but I would not trust it as far as I could kick it.

[pommie02]

German sheperd every time

I trained ours to hate the father in law...

[Jup]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol
My parents got this dog as a pup and have been nothing but loving to her but I would not trust it as far as I could kick it.

Which gets back to the pack issue. Even if a dog recognises a person as a member of the pack, there will also be dominance matters to be settled. If your kids don't live in the same house as your parents then the dog probably doesn't see them as a part of its pack.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who advised the pet/guard dog seperation.

[Matt]

I have a female staffy, she is a little ripper. Looks out for the kids, if my 3 yr old girl walks out the front she will follow her out because she knows my daughter isnt meant to be out there alone. She won't bark at anything stupid, only if something is odd. I can leave the gates open and she won't run off. She comes out in the boat with me, she's tops.

[russo]

mastiff, mastiff x dane or ridgebacks. all awesome big intimidating dogs but great with kids

[gixkat]

The reality is that NO dog should be left alone with your kids, how many times have we heard people on the news say he/she was a loving dog, we have never had any problem with him/her before this.

[336LJ]

I'm hearing yaz loud and clear on the pet dogs seperate from the guard dogs thing.
The only reason this other dog was such a retard was cause of dominance issues - the old dog was the boss up untill the younger dog realised he could be an asswipe and bail him up - at this point I'd kick the fuckwit right up the guts and give it a bit of a wake up call, but you can see the way the thing watches the other dog, and my kid. glad to see it gone.

My mother had her ear bitten in half by an ex police dog - that thing used to terrify the shit out of me and it gave her a chop when she tried to feed it for the relies who were away. but it was the biggest sook for the owner!

Id love a staffy but so many people I know spend a chunk of money on one only to have some asshole pinch it.

next question is where should I be looking for the dog I want - most the time our animals came from the pound and I found that led to some interesting and sometimes bad character traits as pets

[John.R]

My vote goes to Boxers and Bull-mastiffs. Both of these dogs are more family pets that can protect, as opposed to a full on guard dog. I grew up with my Boxer and it was a legend. As said before, it isn't the brightest dog, but loyal as, and smart enough to know if the person in our street belonged there or not. It would go absolutely APESHIT if we had random people in our street ( live in a small cul-de-sac) but if it was any neighbors or kids from the block, he was fine. Only problem we ever had was when he bailed up those blokes that paint the numbers on your gutter. This bloke tried to come up the driveway and Max launched himself through big ass plate glass window at the front of the house and chased him to the end of the street.

[StuNVA]

I had a Dane x Bull Mastiff once, great dog, big and scary but a bloody sook around the family. It was like it had a switch if someone came in the yard and we didn't appear to know them they often didn't get out of the car. Very smart too. Some prick ran it over one day for the fun of it.

[Gitzy]

How could you say no to 1 of these babies..
I suppose the $2500 and $3500 price tags could turn you off..

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http://www.guarddogtraining.com.au/html/doberman.html

[Gitzy]

Or if you have a spare $20000 plus you could have one of these, don't think they'd be real good family dogs, but they'll fuck anything up that enters your yard..

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[El_Hefty]

quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol


quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

Always had pure bred Rotties or German Shepherds all my life, never prof trained, but protected house and family to no end.. very faithful and wonderful with children, not one drama in over 20 years..


And I would have said the same thing till a few years ago.
We had a rottie growing up and was a fantastic dog, with the best temperament. She died and my parents chose to get another pure bred rottie.
I refuse to let my three year old son near her as there is something just not right.
If he walks past the back door alone this dog tries to eat him through the glass (my sisters son also) and it is in no way playful.
My parents got this dog as a pup and have been nothing but loving to her but I would not trust it as far as I could kick it.



if thats the case you parents should give it away or get the green needle for it, i wouldnt take my kids to the place
No fucking dog takes place over kids thats for sure.


336 when it comes to dogs though every ones an expert :)

I have two red cattles one pure bred ex breeding bitch and one male with 'something else' in him, Would i recommend them, pretty simply no as your dog wouldnt be my dog, wouldnt be treated as my dogs are and so on. I have a 18 month old and a 5 year old and i trust my dogs around them but not implicitly, i never would.

My all time favourite though is a Ridgeback and a big male is an impressive animal and loyal as all fuck its my next dog now my wifes used to a dog bigger than a toy poodle

The best dogs though, thats really a fallacy, its all down to the breeding and the way they are bought up and handled, sounds a little like people.

I worked at the animal welfare league handling dogs and it is amazing how fucked up even a golden retriever can get, one of the best dogs i had pass through was a deep chested big male doberman who was handed in when his owner died suddenly, re-homed him incredibly easily.

Put down a lot of rotties and mastifs as they are by breed a very strong willed dog bred badly all too often and if not handled by the right person a loaded gun.
Got bitten a few times too just getting lazy and presuming what a dog was like by the breed and not treating every dog the same way

Good luck though :D

[HOS]

My old man was a nightwatchman when he was in his early 20s and had 2 x Alsations. He swore by them but they can be a bit loopy and attack.

I had a Doberman bitch and I reckon they are good as gaurd dogs.
Firstly they are fucking fast !! They can really move and they are tireless.
Mine had no sense of pain of hurt.
Being mostly black in colour they are stealthy at night.
They do`nt bark though, don`t know why but our`s didnt.
They can take anyone down hard and fast and they can`t see them comning. [8D]
Totally fearless. Was`nt bothered by other dogs and if any other dog got aggresive with her, she saw it off in seconds.

The male Doberman are quite a bit larger than the bitch`s, but I reckon the bitch`s are better around kids and family.
I also reckon the bitches are more protective with your kids with the "mother" thing ? ;)
People told me the bitch`s are more savage and protective but I do`nt know if thats true.
But its all down to the individual dog no matter what the breed.

Hope that helps?

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by little_large


quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol


quote:Originally posted by Gitzy

Always had pure bred Rotties or German Shepherds all my life, never prof trained, but protected house and family to no end.. very faithful and wonderful with children, not one drama in over 20 years..


And I would have said the same thing till a few years ago.
We had a rottie growing up and was a fantastic dog, with the best temperament. She died and my parents chose to get another pure bred rottie.
I refuse to let my three year old son near her as there is something just not right.
If he walks past the back door alone this dog tries to eat him through the glass (my sisters son also) and it is in no way playful.
My parents got this dog as a pup and have been nothing but loving to her but I would not trust it as far as I could kick it.



if thats the case you parents should give it away or get the green needle for it, i wouldnt take my kids to the place
No fucking dog takes place over kids thats for sure.


336 when it comes to dogs though every ones an expert :)

I have two red cattles one pure bred ex breeding bitch and one male with 'something else' in him, Would i recommend them, pretty simply no as your dog wouldnt be my dog, wouldnt be treated as my dogs are and so on. I have a 18 month old and a 5 year old and i trust my dogs around them but not implicitly, i never would.

My all time favourite though is a Ridgeback and a big male is an impressive animal and loyal as all fuck its my next dog now my wifes used to a dog bigger than a toy poodle

The best dogs though, thats really a fallacy, its all down to the breeding and the way they are bought up and handled, sounds a little like people.

I worked at the animal welfare league handling dogs and it is amazing how fucked up even a golden retriever can get, one of the best dogs i had pass through was a deep chested big male doberman who was handed in when his owner died suddenly, re-homed him incredibly easily.

Put down a lot of rotties and mastifs as they are by breed a very strong willed dog bred badly all too often and if not handled by the right person a loaded gun.
Got bitten a few times too just getting lazy and presuming what a dog was like by the breed and not treating every dog the same way

Good luck though :D


yeah mate I'm not one to sit there and think - "well google said that dog should be allright I'll just play PS3 and let it teach itself".
I want to get stuck in and get a handle on the behaviour side of things from an early age.

As with any animal I'd never trust my kid being around them 100%.
I just wasn't sure on the larger dogs, and the family side of things.
I'd never leave my youngin around an animal on his own.
I definitely agree with all of that tho. This is why I'm really not sure on getting an older dog from the pound or something like that. I have no idea what has happened to it before that could suddenly make it snap!

[Zooks]

If you know what you're doing just about any dog can be trained. It's about thinking like a pack leader, not like a stupid human. There are very few bad dogs but loads of idiot (and ignorant) dog owners.

[Yamie]

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We have a Ridgeback that we have on foster from the Animal Welfare League looking for a new home and it come's with the evil eye

[HOS]

How bout one of these ?

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A mate has one of those. Except his is black and damn-near blind.

Great with people, hopeless as a guard dog.

[El_Hefty]

nice looking dog Yamie hows the nature

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by little_large

nice looking dog Yamie hows the nature

x 2

[Yamie]

Yeah she's good has a beautiful nature and good with the kids. She was a bit timid for the frist week but stands tall now and would be a very loyal dog

[racecomp]

Boxers or Bull Mastiff's are great dogs, our Bully is over 60kg now!


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[KATO ZX7]

Ive forgotten to add a down side to different breeds of dogs.
As i mentioned earlier i have 2 Boxers (1 is crossed with ridgeback)
Ive had a few Boxers in my time and they suffer terribly with lumps, bumps and cancer.
1 i lost to bone cancer, the next was Cardiomyopathy (heart problems) and my big boy 'Bundy' who is only 7 had 1 of his ears amputated just last week after 2 tumors were found.

I guess there is so much more to look at when your in the market for a dog,
like they say, a pets not just for christmas, they'r for life.

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This is Bundy, he now has the nick name 'Chopper Buns'
Id post some pics of him streetfightered up but they aint very nice.
He's still handsome tho ;)

[Yamie]

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these are my to:D

[jakam04]

Heres my boy....

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[336LJ]

"STOP - I [u]HAVE</u> released my dog!"

Its at this point one decides whether to die standing still, or die tired.

[BOHEMION]

Growing up around the horse racing industry meant I got to see alot of the dogs that protected all the big trainer/owners stables. Mostly German Sheps, Boxers and Dalmatians with the odd Rottie, Blue Healer, Bullmastiff or Ridgeback in some other racing stables.

Here's my lad, Boarder Collie cross bullmastiff. Very quiet dog until he has something to make noise at, so the picture suits him well.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272297602.jpg

[Billy Bob]

I own a pure bred english staffy, very loyal and affectionate, wont bark until someone touches the gate to come in and that even when she is dead asleep inside the house nothing gets past her, just bought a new born into the "pack" and she has already taken to her follows me everywhere. i wouldnt own any other dog.

[Shadowzone]

Staffies are immensely loyal to a fault.

Any dog handled badly will be a bad dog. You have to take charge and assert dominance over them from day one or they will assert dominance over you. The main problems with dogs biting children people etc stems from owners who are ignorant to their animals and don't know what they're doing.

I love Shepherds, Rotties, and Dobermans too, the Doberman is my favourite though - when attacking they'll hit the target 8 or more times before the first has registered. Nice to watch probably not so nice from the perspective of the bitee...

[TurboKat]

If anybody is serious about training a dog of any breed, get yourself as many of Cesar Milan's videos as you can or watch him in The Dog Whisperer on cable & follow everything he says to the letter - you will not go wrong.
His most basic techniques made the difference between me having to give my dog up & keeping him, in his words - "Dogs don't need training, people do"
As far as I'm concerned, the guy is a genius, you only need to understand how a dog's mind works & any dog becomes a piece of piss to train (his method even works on Horses)

[sharky]

I'll second that Tk...we followed his ideas and now people at the dog park are saying 'I wish our's were that well behaved'..
Anyone that met them when we lived in Seymour will know how they used to be.....

[HOS]

Our Staffordshire Bull, tough as fuck and yet a lovely dog to have around.
Their massive strength totaly defies their size.


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[Ross_247]

This is my Lil Security Girl - "Sheila"



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[Billy Bob]

Mate sheila is a splittin image of my pup "noona" beautiful.

[Gitzy]

Heres My baby girl like this right now next to me, 1 of 4.. 8 months old and 30kilos.. :D

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[Large]

She matches your pillows

[Gitzy]

She's not gay Rich, Unlike the pillows.. ;)

[Ross_247]

quote:Originally posted by Billy Bob

Mate sheila is a splittin image of my pup "noona" beautiful.


oh really coooool. : ) mad lil chunky things, geez they got some personality aswell, very smart little things

[TwinMatch]

quote:Originally posted by BOHEMION

Growing up around the horse racing industry meant I got to see alot of the dogs that protected all the big trainer/owners stables. Mostly German Sheps, Boxers and Dalmatians with the odd Rottie, Blue Healer, Bullmastiff or Ridgeback in some other racing stables.

Here's my lad, Boarder Collie cross bullmastiff. Very quiet dog until he has something to make noise at, so the picture suits him well.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272297602.jpg





BOH, I gotta ask whats his temperment like? I spose he would be extremely smart (border collie) but will grow big with the mastiff in him?
Ive never seen one of these crosses before. Got any more pics without a gilly suit?

[BOHEMION]

Yeah mate he is pretty awesome, great Ute dog. Never goes too far from me unleashed, does what its told. Very playful to those who are deemed a friend, but a pretty sharp and quick bark on him to those who arent.

Med Sized 12-15KG, now where near a full Bull. He gained mostly all traights of the Collie. Very active (lots of exersize) he wants to be run or let out when ever he can. Very short BUll hair as you can see with low hair shed all year round.

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[336LJ]

The 2 dogs I'v had

This one is getting OLD - awesome guard dog when he can be bothered. never had a problem around kids, couldn't sit still or be calm about anyone being in the yard unless they were introduced, and even then if it wasn't a regular they wouldn't leave his sight. fucking hates cops (the most insane I have ever seen him), black fellers (so half our family), a few of my mates, people punching eachother, magpies, and the bloke next doors 4 stroke dirty.
likes long walks...... :D
We always reckoned the thing looked like a half cast dingo or something
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And this is the other dog we got from the animal welfare - awesome guard dog but just too skitz around the kid and other dogs. really weird temperament, and not something I'd like to come across again if I can help it.
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[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by BOHEMION

Growing up around the horse racing industry meant I got to see alot of the dogs that protected all the big trainer/owners stables. Mostly German Sheps, Boxers and Dalmatians with the odd Rottie, Blue Healer, Bullmastiff or Ridgeback in some other racing stables.

Here's my lad, Boarder Collie cross bullmastiff. Very quiet dog until he has something to make noise at, so the picture suits him well.

http://www.asfphotos.com/upload/1272297602.jpg



Do you even realise how full of WIN this picture is. thats awesome!

and Jakam that thing is fkng mental! do you train the dogs up - get attached to em then have to palm them off to someone else? ( don't remember asking that when I was up there as a cadet years ago having a look around)

[jakam04]

Yeah mate. I'm a doggie in the RAAF. I don't get hands on with the dogs these days as I'm working in the Training area these days (training students).

[pappas]

Here's my boy, he's an English Staffy cross German Shephard! The best dog I've had by far. He's 9 months old and has filled out to 26kg since this photo.

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[HOS]

quote:Originally posted by 336LJ


And this is the other dog we got from the animal welfare - awesome guard dog but just too skitz around the kid and other dogs. really weird temperament, and not something I'd like to come across again if I can help it.
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Are you sure thats a dog and not a bear ? :D :)

[HOS]

Heres my Dobbie bitch.
No sense of fear and no sense of danger at all ! [:p]


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[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by HOS

Are you sure thats a dog and not a bear ? :D :)


lol everyone who has seen this pic says that

(and your dog looks like its going 100 miles an hour just standing there! )

[Yamie]

Hey Luke when are you going do the in-tro of our new family member she is a sexy looking bitch we are going to miss her:D

[Yamie]

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Sorry I couldn't help myself:D

[yoda]

I've got a maremma.. great dog though wouldn't recommend them to everyone(they do bark a bit)
He's a big unit, about 50kg i think, but looks like a big teddy bear. Until someone jumps the fence and gets fucked up.
And, as a bonus, he humped zeke(banditrods young bloke).

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[336LJ]

okay chaps I need some advice.

Dog snarls and arcs up at a 1yo for patting her and touching her tail/foot - even tho she was fine around kids a bit older.

worth trying to pull into line, or forget about it. 18month old evil eye critter as seen above.

She's a fucking fantastic dog and it absolutely guts me to have to take her back/get rid of her she is just settling in and coming out of her shell, everything was fine until this happened and we just can't have that risk. My other dog has picked up on what she is like with my boy and is now taking every opportunity to bail her up and dominate her, yet they were fine for the first few days.

its like my other older dog is agitated now with her presence as if she is dominating the joint (being that my son is about the height of her head!) So now I gotta fuckin keep em seperate in the yard when I'm not around.

Anyone without toddlers out there need an awesome dog? she's a brute but I think she'd make an awesome side kick for someone with the time and lack of babies/poodles for her to choke on..

I'm hanging onto her as long as I can has only just been 1 week since we brought her home, and keeping her isolated from the kid and other dog most of the time, but still get her out and running around on the acerage for a few hours every day cause I hate having to lock animals up in a shitty ass pen all the time its a fucked way to live (even tho this one is about 20m x 30m temporary pen while we gather enough star pickets for a 100m square house yard). If she goes back to the AWL, they will probably take it as "will eat children" and give her the jab. And thats a damn shame. I don't think its that at all - its just my kid practically hangs off her and it gives her the shits but where do you draw the line!

I just think we are going to have to get a much younger dog that grows up with the young lad? I'm still glad I got the chance to have her so far though definitely rang true on the temperament you lot mentioned about ridgebacks - I'm just not confident its a behaviour that can be instantly corrected in this case?

I have also never seen a dog that big, move so fast! kind of hoping someone breaks in I'd love to see the outcome!.

[KATO ZX7]

Hang on to her for a bit longer.
When i brought my son home from hospital my dog went nuts, snarling and growling at Jacks bedroom door behind the baby gate.
When Jack turned 1 and was a bit nimbler on his feet, my dog was still weary and still snarled up when ever Jack would go the dogs way.
Now that Jack is 2 and alot bigger, he now climbs all over my dog, pulls ears and tries to hang on to his ears like a pair of motorbike handles when my dog gets up too move around.

Now, by saying this, if you feel that its just not worth the risk, find the dog a new home, but i think that the size of your kid is a factor to why the dog wants to dominate, plus the fact the dogs prob not used to a little person of good eating size.

thats my 3 cents.

[336LJ]

quote:Originally posted by KATO ZX7

Hang on to her for a bit longer.
When i brought my son home from hospital my dog went nuts, snarling and growling at Jacks bedroom door behind the baby gate.
When Jack turned 1 and was a bit nimbler on his feet, my dog was still weary and still snarled up when ever Jack would go the dogs way.
Now that Jack is 2 and alot bigger, he now climbs all over my dog, pulls ears and tries to hang on to his ears like a pair of motorbike handles when my dog gets up too move around.

Now, by saying this, if you feel that its just not worth the risk, find the dog a new home, but i think that the size of your kid is a factor to why the dog wants to dominate, plus the fact the dogs prob not used to a little person of good eating size.

thats my 3 cents.

I'v decided to keep her for a bit longer and see what comes of it.
my main concerns at the moment are how she is with the young feller, I havn't seen it, its only happened when I'm not here.
She has really come out of her shell and has more of a bond with me than anyone else that frequents this house.
Still acts like an evil puppy tho. tries to chew/dive through the wire pen I have made up at the moment, and I'm not sure how she will go once I start leaving her out in the main 5 acres. all that room and the fkn things still need to go exploring in someone elses yard.
My problem with that, is the neighbours have extremely expensive horses, and all other kinds of animals, She chases our cats too.. hasn't caught them yet but I don't know whats going to happen if she does! If that kind of thing happens next door I'll be bankrupt.

Trying to work out how to teach her the boundaries, and keep her in the yard and only eat people/things that don't belong here.
Both dogs have backed off a bit with the agro/dominance thing.. If I keep em busy they tend not to bother eachother
If anyone has any ideas let me know! Seeing as though I'm not a qualified animal trainer!

[sharky]

A mate used a LOW voltage solar electric fence wire around the bottom of his fence 'cos the dogs kept trying to tunel under it. One 'ping' on the nose and they stopped digging.

[ozzy1100]

russ its the funnest thing ull ever see lol but i did do mine with a stock elec ment for over 50 ks of line ...... only takes one hit
dosnt hurt them but they dont go back for the next 1

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this is our yng girl we got her as a give away we think she is around 15 mths she is a dane x mastif x bull arib
good gaurd dog as in people dont like big dogs barking at them lol and she is great and such a softy with our son james

[John.R]

When we had our boxer, we used that electric fence to stop him going around the back of the house. Had it zig zagged up and down the little path. The smart arse dog would wait for the zap, then staunch it ( Our fence used pulses around 3-5 secs apart, so would go ZAP, 1, 2, 3, 4, ZAP etc) He would wait and listen, then charge through it as soon as he heard the zap haha

[robmac]

I've got a couple of Japanese Akita's and two electric fences! The male is a pup and will be forever I think (he's 7). Lovely dog with a beautiful nature and loves the attention from the kids and anyone who'll give it to him.
The female is a completely different animal. Very affectionate towards me and my family (loves the kids) and will tolerate anyone who gets introduced by me. As far as other animals go that's a bit of a no-no. Has a huge hunting instinct and will go any animal that gets within range. Every so often I hear a brief squeal in the middle of the night then it goes quiet. Get up the next morning and there's another dead cat. We came home on Saturday night and there was a monster cat lying in the yard. I even weighed the fucking thing cause I couldn't believe how big it was!! A 14kg cat FFS!! As usual, no blood or open wounds, just a dead pussy.

They molt twice a year too so there's also copious amounts of hair to deal with.

Definitely not for everyone but as a loyal family dog I have found them to be amazing. Quite demanding at times as they can be very headstrong and can be hard to train/control in front of other animals. Quite reassuring when I go away that my family are well looked after :)

Will post photo's soon.

[ozzy1100]

quote:Originally posted by John.R

When we had our boxer, we used that electric fence to stop him going around the back of the house. Had it zig zagged up and down the little path. The smart arse dog would wait for the zap, then staunch it ( Our fence used pulses around 3-5 secs apart, so would go ZAP, 1, 2, 3, 4, ZAP etc) He would wait and listen, then charge through it as soon as he heard the zap haha

lol john sounds like a horse we used to have, we fixed him up tho
he used 2 test so one day we turned it off and hide out of site at piont, when he stuck his nose on it because no sound we turned it on.. a few times of this over the next few days fixed him right up
my side tho sstill hurts thinking of how funny it was lol

[336LJ]

so far I'v only heard this dog bark 3 times - and it sounds like its barking samurai swords, on fire with road base and killer african bees mixed in.
Burst in the door in a hurry tonight, missus was asleep on the couch, dog was chillin out beside her, cut sick for a split second till she realised it was me. straight at my side sussing out my mate, (the dog that is.. not my missus)

seems OK around my kid now.. but still extremely cautious.Doesn't seem to be doing the whole dominating shit as much anymore even plays with the other dog so I'll keep observing and I'v got about 1 million k's of electic fence wire, and should be able to find a good box to run the thing out on the farm.



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[Yamie]

Thats cool to hear Luke she just needed some time and a good owner:)

[Gitzy]

quote:Originally posted by 336LJ

it sounds like its barking samurai swords, on fire with road base and killer african bees mixed in.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... GASP.. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats awesome..

[336LJ]

sorry to drag up an old thread - but I hope someone can give this dog a good home - we had to take her back to the AWL. just as I was thinking she was ok round the young feller (And that the missus was making this shit up) she snapped at him as he walked past, unprovoked. and that was it. she could fit his head inside her mouth - the risk was too much and we really only think its a size thing.
She got alot stronger having all this acerage to run around on, and bonded extremely well with me - I'v never had a dog so switched on and loyal to me in such a short time. 4 times in 4 months, total amount of times she barked. twice when my mates jumped the gate to knock on my door, a quick one each time to wake me up and let me know someone is coming. the other 2 times when some retard dog from up the road came and shat outside our yard. any time someone she didn't know approached me she either stood infront of me, or at my side and never took her eyes off them till we interacted in a friendly way - it was awesome.

If I didn't have my young feller, who takes priority over everything. I'd have kept her, I could have kept them seperate but it was so much fucking around and I think unfair on both my son who loves animals and wants to play, and a dog that deserves to be out and enjoying itself.

Please contact the AWL in helensvale (the re homing center) must go to a home with older kids and understanding adults - she's house trained, not a nuisance barker - will chase anything that moves though ;) - and extremely loyal.

I'm down alot of cash for the adoption of this dog but if things went better it would have been worth it - absolutely gutted to have to take her back was a hard thing to do.. but like its said above - no animal takes priority over children