twas a rhetorical question, how about the tb's fitting?
Whats the plan Surt ? Turbo ?
The B12 is a good base for a project.
not bloody likely Hos! well actually i have some weird thoughts buzzin in my revolutionary nut like swappin engines with a busa then turboin it... thatd be a real crazy project mate
bahaha thanks for feedback mates already looking for abusa lump the only prob i can see so far is busa thottles r directed upright need to change the direction somehow perhaps u had already thought about it slingy? i kunt really judge until i have the frame and engine side by side
nah Col well just a tad lowered and stretched but still a street scoot
Havent measured them up but as you say,
just parking them side by side the Busa frame is wide
enough to take the upright throttle bodies and airbox
but the B12 curves closer over the top of the carbs
and motor. Thinking about it, the real nice Kawabusa
did a ZRX with a Bus lump.
yup i checked up the kawabusa 2 he used elbows to change the tb's direction i'd rather make an ally spacer or else maybe its enough space to set up the tb's as they r originally on busa then use silicon elbows from plenum to tb's?
btw busas engine looks not so tall as b12's er? can anyone measure busas powerplant with tranny? i need to know its width on different levels - head, block, covers, its height and length with tranny
Last edited by Surt; 22-01-2012 at 01:34 AM.
Some VERY rough info for you Surt,
The B12 and Busa engines (head/barrels) top ends look similar in width.
The Busa frame is about 100 wider internaly for the head to fit into in.
With both bikes sat side by side the top rails going OVER the bandit
engine are about 150mm higher off the ground than the beams on
the Busa going AROUND the engine. A "Kawabusa" type idea may
be do-able.
Hard to measure Busa lump as head is up in the frame /under the tank.
yeah, thats the type of thing. Like you say, very hard to tell untill you get a Busa motor to measure up for yourself. But its alot easier to mod a steel frame than an alloy one so maybe the upper frame tubes can be "blistered" each side to clear the TB's then the rear of your alloy tank can be a hollow dummy to cover plenum.
Or, what about making the plenum and tank combined, so it cnnects straight to the TB's,intercooler core in the fuel tank using fuel as liquid to cool charge, then run a fuel cooler to exchange the heat. Fucking GENIUS.
So it would look like turbo up pipe connected to tank. Wacky. Also you'd get good intercooling as would be like an air water intercooler but without all the extra plumbing. EFI already uses a pump so just a case of putting a cooler in the existing fuel CCT to cool the returning fuel to the tank.
Or, what about making your new alloy tank strong enough to be a stressed member which bolts into the top of the frame, so the upper frame rails can be completely removed.
Or combining both ideas of stressed member tank with combined plenum/tank design, even if theres no intercooler in the fuel part.
How many more Zaney ideas you want Surt?
GSXR1000 into a Bandit ?
Looks like a big chunk of frame's gone from the front ?
Busa motor into GSXR1100 ?
http://www.maxpowermotorcycles.com.a...300-busa-motor
yup its the same bike that inspired me
so if gixxer1100 tb's directed the same way like on busa /wat is kinda seen on the pics/ then there must be enough room?
tbh i'd stay with same modest mods to frame so ur ideas of the stressed tank r to radical for me slingy although i luv idea of a monocoque frame
from wat i see the kawabusa tank hangs down way much lower than bandit's so maybe therell be some clearance left for plenum or the upper rails can be really widened along stretching the frame for 80-100mm in length thatd give so needed room for turbo header , ic, water and oil coolers
and me still thinks that bandit's engine is a tad higher than busa's, isn't it???
Last edited by Surt; 22-01-2012 at 07:25 AM.
btw anyone knows a seppo e-bay seller with well organised world wide shipping for bulky parts like engines (up here a busa's naked lump starts from 2 grand bucks)
Liking this more and more.
I can see why they lost the front frame tubes on the B12 frame.
Theres a rad, fan and oil cooler to get in there from the GSXR or Busa lump
There is a guy who put a Busa lump in a Katana 1100 chassis.
I think he has a custom shop in Greece or Cyprus ?
Might give you sdome more ideas about slotting the big lump in a tubular frame.
I am sure you can find it quicker than I?