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    So you are showing me a Gen 2 part compared to a B-King part off a cheap parts site?

    The B. King motor shared very few parts with a Gen 1 Busa either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surt View Post
    looks like u of fucked up Colin! go study the part numbers bahaha!
    Yes I did.

    Only I used the official Suzuki parts site and apart from the camchain there are no parts sharing the same part numbers in the top end of the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Busa.

    Believe what you want to Surt, I'm outta this thread. Had 5 of em myself and got mates who turbo them and race them. The B.King tony was on about is one of my mates and its a 550 bhp bike.

    As I said to you Surt talk to the experts I mentioned or it will cost ya a lot more than money.

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    no sweat Hos my knowledge on busa and bking stuff equals zero and i usually rely on my on my own experience, rather into accumulating it than into being a true believer in anythin
    i wish i could order an already prepared turbocharged busa motor from big cc or still better the whole bike but all i can barely afford is 2nd hand dark horse from flea bay mate

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    Wasnt trying to be a smart arse HOS.
    If there are differences between Gen2's and B-Kings i'd like to know too
    as I have plan's for mine. Guys who race in the US and guys in the trade
    tell me there are not other than cosmetic finish on some exterior parts.
    The site's I use list them as being the same.

    Your Gen1 / Gen2 comparison is something I havent looked into
    other than seeing folk swap the barrels between the two.

    I know what you mean about part numbers. I've used Mini parts and
    Landrover parts that were the same part with two different numbers and
    two different prices! and other dealers listed them as the same.

    Im a newbie only on my 3rd....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOS View Post
    So you are showing me a Gen 2 part compared to a B-King part off a cheap parts site?
    Yes, not the site I normaly use but it was very early this morning
    and I was off to work any minute. I normaly use the "Ronayers motorsport"
    site to cross match parts (couldnt remember the name at 6am) but the
    results were the same.

    http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID...oup/CRANKSHAFT

    http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID...oup/CRANKSHAFT

    Tony.
    Last edited by Tony Nitrous; 24-01-2012 at 04:00 PM.

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    My mate Jase is one of only a handfull of guys I would let anywhere near any bike of mine.
    So from what he has told me about the Gen 2 motor and based on my research of the Suzuki OEM parts site, it confirms the only part with the same number is the camchain.

    But hey, you know what parts numbers are like? More so if you ever had a Kawasaki !
    No pissing match from me, no worries.

    Surt I know you will do the right thing which is find out for yourself and not trust other people. That is the ONLY way
    Yeah I think we would all love to have the wonga to order one of Seans "built motors" ! Amazing kit !

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    Having gone the boosted route myself and know how they are a money pit.
    So what about a big bore kit ? Keep the cost down and get more reliability?

    Trying to keep the budget down is bloody difficult !! There is a massive amount of stuff available for the Boosta.
    Just considering: a multi stage billet lock up clutch, billet quick-release clutch casing, billet slave cyclinder support bracket, billet clutch basket, bullet clutch hub, new plates, new springs..... can easy total the cost of a complete 2nd hand bike.

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    No stress HOS.

    I think we may have been talking about different things.
    As I said, I was only compareing Gen2 Busa's and B-Kings,
    NOT Gen1 to a Gen2 as you mentioned.

    Your Mate with the Drag-Bandit,
    Is that this one.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Nitrous View Post
    No stress HOS.

    I think we may have been talking about different things.
    As I said, I was only compareing Gen2 Busa's and B-Kings,
    NOT Gen1 to a Gen2 as you mentioned.

    Your Mate with the Drag-Bandit,
    Is that this one.....
    Yeah, I took that photo on my camera I have posted it online before.
    At The Pod

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    yup me saved the piccie from harry's bang abusa thread... stock frame custom bitubo braced swinga, n/a, how did he make her to cum just for 9s? ah i see the bottle under tail :happy laughter:

    NB received the gixxers complete front end today, left leg is fucked up but seller refunded $200 for buying a replacement cheers Jose pics tomorrow
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    The first Streetbike to run in the 7's was Brocks Bandit.
    No turbo, a well built motor and a big sniff of NOS.


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    Surt,

    Busa engines are at a premium price everywhere because the car guys want them for race cars.
    A few years ago you could pay upwards of £2500 just for a Busa engine. They are very popular for track day cars.
    People were buying brand new Busa's, removing the engine and selling the brand new bike minus the engine on eblag for £1200.

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    Mind you that B12 engine is'nt to be sniffed at.

    A mate of mine pulled his Bandit right over mono wheeling like he does all the time.
    So when it was mended, he had Straightline Racing rebuild his motor and got him 165 bhp at the rear wheel.
    Normally aspirated engine !

    I like Suzuke's.

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    i guess ur right about busa engines Hos cos other motors r pretty cheap there say 06 gixxer liter's is $1000 coplete engine with tbs, wiring, etc
    i dont mind bandits lump at all cept 1 thing id wish it has upper mounts to modify the frame gettin rid of front tubes would give me more room for turbo header and other stuff, also the frame design makes not very handy removing and installing the engine or even just headers

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    Today I piled of shitloads of mud and washed the frame in a satanic mixture of petrol, white spirit and acetone


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    But yesterday like I said I received the complete front end from ’06 gixxer liter $1000 shipped



    Would be totally awesome if not



    Different angle



    But I opened the case and drew from the seller $200 partial refund which was spent on purchasing a replacement from another seller ($200.90 shipped lol)

    The wheel is gorgeous though esp compared to bandits


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    Kin Ell !
    Those forks are hardly "as new" ?
    Glad you managed to extact some money back outta the seller.

    Mark who did my blower installation had a few Busa engined race cars in his place from time to time.
    I was pretty gobsmacked when one guy turned up in his new M5 SMG, got a new V8 Busa mill on a pallet
    in the boot and he wants Mark to supercharge it. Turns out the guy has a £350k weekend race car.
    A different world mate with those kind of people and big money. Not my style either.
    I'd rather have fuck all and some good mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOS View Post
    Mind you that B12 engine is'nt to be sniffed at.
    I like Suzuke's.
    Very true.

    I had Busa numbers out of a B12 motor with Nitrous.
    just the diaphram clutches a bit crap, heavy duty springs help.
    I know its not comparing apples with apples, but the B12/GSXR11
    lump itself has huge potential, just not to a turbo Busa comparison.

    There would be something very satisfying about having a killer
    oil-cooled Bandit like HOS's mate and being able to hunt down many
    of the normaly aspirated Busa's.

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    not new but listed as ready to bolt on... i believe the best wat u can get for that kind of coin, really no sign of wear on the black tubes no leakin on the seals
    didnt bite slingys fishing on a boat anchor either bahaha
    maybe it can be hung up by the head's oil stop bolts, where folks usually bolt on sliders? how 'bout this zany idea?
    ps happy ozday to all the dinkum ozzies and the land

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    Hey Surt,

    well, if your keeping the bandit lump, then i have seen a bandit where they removed the stock down tubes and the lower frame tubes and replaced them with ones which came down around the outside of the headers with tubes going back over the engine cases, with a removable front cross member with the engine mounts on.
    So rather like a spondon and it looked great. Like you say, no restrictions to header design then and engine can just drop out from under.
    I'm pretty sure i,ve also seen a slingshot, think it was a water cooled frame with an oil cooled motor in it, again the front and lower frame rails removed and that had the engine hung from the head oil passage bolts but it did look a but ugly as it all ended up being quite wide at that point compared to everything else, but i suppose it depends largely how you design and engineer it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Nitrous View Post
    Very true.

    I had Busa numbers out of a B12 motor with Nitrous.
    just the diaphram clutches a bit crap, heavy duty springs help.
    I know its not comparing apples with apples, but the B12/GSXR11
    lump itself has huge potential, just not to a turbo Busa comparison.

    There would be something very satisfying about having a killer
    oil-cooled Bandit like HOS's mate and being able to hunt down many
    of the normaly aspirated Busa's.
    I loved my '99 B12.
    Its that Suzuke thing, they are rock solid bikes.

    We watched a guy down the Pod a couple of years back with a stocker B12, just added NOS.
    He was having a ball !! Low 9s every time.

    As you know Tony, its not what you got, its how you use it.

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