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    Here y'are matey,

    GSX1000 Kat with Busa lump. Got some good build photos too.
    http://www.motormaniaracing.com/moto...SX-mpatsos.htm

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    thats unfuckin believable Hos 400rwbhp @1bar sounds like very expensive mods completely out of my budget... btw i've recently heard that there's some greek town where the biggest number of lamborginis per 1000 people in the world! in fuckin greece! no wonder they've gone bankrupt the whole bloody cunt'ry! bahaha!!!

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    Thats been on here before. Cyprus not Greece.
    More of a frame built around an engine than an
    engine dropped into a frame ? Very interesting though.

    What if you used/added side rails that went around the motor
    over the side casings, like a Harris Magnum, and removed the
    bottom under the motor tubes? Put the motor in from below
    as on the Busa ?

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    yup thats exactly wat i mean to do - adding side rails and removing the lower ones and yup limassol is in cyprus but it belong to greece tho half of cyprus is still occupied by turkey me reckons

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    Almost moved to Cyprus.
    spent a LOT of time there.

    I was just looking through the "Harris" folder.
    Removing half the down tubes and the rails under and
    then using welded in, outside "over the casing" rails ?

    There's a few different ones. I see some are quite
    minimal, whilst others have more bracing.

    Engine mounts would need some thinking, B12 sits
    in its frame, Busa is hung from its.

    Interesting.

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    side mounts r no prob unlike (probably) rear mounts cos its always easier to make smth from scratch than modifying smth given

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surt View Post
    side mounts r no prob unlike (probably) rear mounts cos its always easier to make smth from scratch than modifying smth given
    I like the idea of taking the frame tubes around the outside of the barrels/head which is how the stock alloy beam frame works. BUT as you say when you start taking more away from that relatively spindley B12 frame, you are getting into the territory of building the frame from scratch.

    That stock frame is a composite unit and even using the engine as a stressed member, the over all integrity of the frame is still to a degree compromised. The more you remove the more compromised it becomes. Sorry to state the bleeding obvious.


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    I found a Lambretta with a Busa engine on the interweb !!

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    there was a custom steel framed turbo busa thread on here but since the asf moved on to where it is now everythins fucked up i kunt find anythin... pics in older threads r gone to hell etc... twas large's schismatic thread and i saved the pics from it but my terrabyte disc has fucked up as well... moreover, i've met her builder on arse book but kunt remember his name wtf!!! ahaha!!!
    anyway, i remerber the frame by heart and im gunna modify the bandits frame in the mid section likewisep

    ps yup i saw that abused lamb awhile back mate

    pps wat years busa motor is better for turbochargin? 1st gen me thinks err?
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    yup ive found it after a few hs search


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    Quote Originally Posted by Surt View Post
    there was a custom steel framed turbo busa thread on here but since the asf moved on to where it is now everythins fucked up i kunt find anythin... pics in older threads r gone to hell etc... twas large's schismatic thread and i saved the pics from it but my terrabyte disc has fucked up as well... moreover, i've met her builder on arse book but kunt remember his name wtf!!! ahaha!!!
    anyway, i remerber the frame by heart and im gunna modify the bandits frame in the mid section likewisep

    ps yup i saw that abused lamb awhile back mate

    pps wat years busa motor is better for turbochargin? 1st gen me thinks err?
    A hell of a lot more choice of parts for a Gen 1 motor. Older model, more parts = cheaper.
    The Gen 2 they changed the whole works inside.

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    the whole works? what exactly mate? there r mostly '04-'08 motor kits on evil bay with pretty modest milage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surt View Post
    the whole works? what exactly mate? there r mostly '04-'08 motor kits on evil bay with pretty modest milage
    They changed pistons, barrels, crank, head, cams, throttle bodies, ECU etc etc the whole works.
    The Gen 2 came in during 2009/2010?

    Gen 1 early models had a cam chain tensioner recall. They did change the ECU a couple of times during the life of the Gen 1 and some other minor changes, like later bikes have a lambda sensor in the exhaust collector box area which is linked to the ECU.

    If you are going with forced induction you will replace the ECU anyway.
    I had the first mutli-point USB hub Power Commander in the UK with a lot more programming ability. But Power Commanders have moved on since then.

    What do you mean by a motor "kit" on evilsbay? A Turbo kit for the motor? There is only one guy I would buy a ready made turbo kit off.

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    i mean a complete engine with tbs harness ecu even airbox oil cooler and zorst header... so considering the baby probs buyin '04-'08 motors is a good plan?

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    I had a Gen 2 motor in October 07.
    Internaly Gen2 and B-Kings are 100% the same thing.

    Gen2 has thiner barrels and titanium valves.
    Not ideal for a Turbo. Gen1 barrels will go on a Gen2
    and valves are available too. A little more work but a newer motor.
    Not sure about turbo use but Gen2/King ECU have made powercommanders
    a thing of the past. Anything can be remapped beyond the ability of a P.C.
    for a normaly aspirated motor.

    Justin is the man to talk to about ECU re-mapping
    http://www.woolichracing.com/default.aspx

    There are some f#ckin' fast Turbo Gen2's about,
    and I know to a 500+hp B-King with the same motor,
    have a word with Booster (Greg) who's built and owned both.

    http://www.streetfighters.com.au/for...rs-new-project

    http://www.streetfighters.com.au/for...-B-K-turbo-kit

    EDIT: I think Greg has a GT32 turbo for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Nitrous View Post
    I had a Gen 2 motor in October 07.
    Internaly Gen2 and B-Kings are 100% the same thing.

    .

    My mate who builds and races drag bikes (ACU) says they aint 100% the same.
    Different type and shape of piston, different piston centres therefore different crank. etc etc

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    i hear ya mate gen2 motors r about 4 grands so beyond my budget anyway so im prowlin around in searches for '04-07 motors shazbot nanu nanu



    /kinda like the corrected version hey!/
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    PM me ya Email addy Surt? and I'll send you some photos of Jase on his B12 drag bike.
    He asked me to be his pit bitch, at 7 foot tall who was I to say no ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOS View Post
    My mate who builds and races drag bikes (ACU) says they aint 100% the same.
    Different type and shape of piston, different piston centres therefore different crank. etc etc
    Busa (Gen2)
    http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...emblies/126726

    B-King.
    http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...emblies/126477

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    looks like u of fucked up Colin! go study the part numbers bahaha!

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