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  1. 09-10-2006, 10:16 AM #21
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    ok damn first things first power wheeles are not safe ull loop it eventually i promis u that. I have seen riders on 954's with 60 tooth rear sprokets and they still clutch it up it may take a bit longer to get it down but just do it its much more prodictable. U may not get it stragth away and if your having problems bringing it up with the clutch u have a problem with the size of your balls and be closing the throtle of as soon as the frount lifts ... every one does this at first .. DONT DO POWER WHEELIES ... i cant stress that enought..
    And also when ever u do a wheelie make sure that right foot is on the brake leaver not pressing it but on it coz if that thing comes to high its your only life saver .. Also a good measure of how high u are is the level of your forks if there parralel with the road your at Bp you can go a bit further back but thats where good brake control skill come into play
    also if u do plan on long highway wheelies at Bp do them Stagard Stance one foot covering brake one on the left pillion peg it will seam very weird at fisrt but once u get used to it u will find it much easier to balance when it is that high. if u insist on sit downs sit as close to the tank as u can coz the closer to the tail the wobblier it will get. its also wise to lower psi in the rear highway 25-30 psi slow stuff 15 - 20 psi this will help u keep it steady

    Keep it Up man

    Peace
  2. 09-10-2006, 08:34 PM #22
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    everyone loves an A grader ^^^...go and buy a real bike ya fukin limp wristed git,and come back when you've leart to ride it.
  3. 09-10-2006, 08:40 PM #23
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    hmmm, actually i tend to agree with the small bike riding man on this one
    Rev the fucker!!!!!
  4. 09-10-2006, 10:45 PM #24
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    I dont do wheelies co's i am shit at them, however my bike does have a tendancy to do predictable power wheelies when i abuse the throttle and it feels great and it is so easy to do on the power, but there again i do have 168bhp at the back wheel to play with

    Oh almost forgot to mention it is a Suzuki
  5. 09-10-2006, 10:49 PM #25
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    quote:Originally posted by vtr420

    power wheeles are not safe DONT DO POWER WHEELIES ... i cant stress that enought..
    What a load of CRAP that is!
    Pay no attention to that bollocks Matt, if you've never hung a wheelie before, the front wheel being 6" off the ground will feel like you're about to flip it. Power wheelies will make you feel comfortable with the front wheel coming up & you'll be able to lift it a bit higher as you get more confident. The front will come up a lot more gently/predictably if you let it come up under power, start by clutching it up & you'll shit yourself repeatedly & probly decide it's too hard/scary.
    Don't try to be A C Farias straight away, it won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
  6. 10-10-2006, 12:16 AM #26
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    Try to find an XR200 and a big flat paddock, it won't hurt as much (body or wallet).
    Big 600 singles are also great fun to mono (oops showing my age there).
  7. 10-10-2006, 06:40 AM #27
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    quote:Originally posted by alfiestorm

    I dont do wheelies co's i am shit at them, however my bike does have a tendancy to do predictable power wheelies when i abuse the throttle and it feels great and it is so easy to do on the power, but there again i do have 168bhp at the back wheel to play with

    Oh almost forgot to mention it is a Suzuki
    Yeah my R1 did nice easy (probably really low)power wheelies as well, I was spoilt by how easy they were.
  8. 10-10-2006, 08:04 AM #28
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    quote:Originally posted by turbokat

    quote:Originally posted by vtr420

    power wheeles are not safe DONT DO POWER WHEELIES ... i cant stress that enought..
    What a load of CRAP that is!
    Pay no attention to that bollocks Matt, if you've never hung a wheelie before, the front wheel being 6" off the ground will feel like you're about to flip it. Power wheelies will make you feel comfortable with the front wheel coming up & you'll be able to lift it a bit higher as you get more confident. The front will come up a lot more gently/predictably if you let it come up under power, start by clutching it up & you'll shit yourself repeatedly & probly decide it's too hard/scary.
    Don't try to be A C Farias straight away, it won't happen overnight, but it will happen.

    And as confidence grow with GAY POWER WHEELIE u want to go higher and higher and with no idea what rear brake control is hit max Hp and end up on your arse with your nice bike going end over end down the road ... umm wheelies are hard why cheat if u want to do it learn the right way first it may take a bit longer so u can "IMPRESS YOUR MATES" But at least u wont hurt your self ...

    Thanks Fimp u must actually be able to wheelie

    And Davo can u scrap the tail on your bike coz i can on mine [^]
  9. 10-10-2006, 02:41 PM #29
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    Sorry VTR but I disagree. I may not be a budding tail scraping wheelie God, but I can bust out a pretty good multigear wheelie and I reckon that using the clutch is not only hard on the bike (fair enough, you got a 250) but I reckon it's easier to control the rate of rise using the power.
    Maybe I was spoilt by my B12 but I could pick it up off the throttle to just below the balance point, then twist it just a little more to find it rather than banging it up on the clutch.

    Another thing, i have never ever used the rear brake. i know I'm supposed to learn for some safety reason or some shit, but I haven't yet and probably never will.
    But I'm looking to change gears anyway, not hold a 2nd gear (or worse, 1st gear)rear brake wheelie for 400 metres (ho hum).
    John Forsyth once said, "if it aint over 80mph, it aint a high speed wheelie".
    Different school from the tail scraping at 20mph I guess.

    Matt, everyone's an expert, maybe you should find a mate that can do wheelies and get him to give you some one on one help.
    My opinion is that using the clutch is only for bikes that don't have the power to do it by themselves.
  10. 10-10-2006, 03:34 PM #30
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    matt as has been said there are many opnions on how to wheele and which way is better, the truth of the matter is to find a style and tecneque that YOU are happy with and feel comfortable with, and there aint no guru out there that can have you wheeling in one day, it will take time and not a short time unless you are especialy talanted, so you have to do the hard yards and practice, i think that VTR420 said that as you get better you want to go higher and longer and that is true. Just remember that if you go hard and try to get there quickly the probility of you stacking it ( and you will sooner or later ) increases, I'm not saying that is a bad thing, only if you treasure your bike i advise that you take it slowly, of if you got a dedicated stunt bike then go for it. Hope this is of some help, BTW how are you going with your wheelies?
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  11. 10-10-2006, 04:06 PM #31
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    quote:Originally posted by 03gixxerpilot

    BTW how are you going with your wheelies?
    Haven't even tried mate, I drive the work ute during the week so don't get much chance. I will have a play at the weekend.
  12. 10-10-2006, 04:53 PM #32
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    good stuff, don't be discouraged by some of the stuff that is said in this thread, just try a few diffrent things and see how you go

    good luck and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!
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  13. 10-10-2006, 05:22 PM #33
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    i cant really wheelie for shit

    but at the start of the year at stuntschool ned kept on giving me the
    "clutchy-clutchy" gesture as i kept trying to power wheelie



    and eventually i got the balls to try it
    once used to the front jumping up it is really easy to get a repeatable lift
    just get to the right speed, slip clutch til the right number of revs and dump it

    even if u do loop it at least you are only doing 60k's rather than 100!!

    man the ride home from oran park hurt that day, couldnt move my left hand for 2days [:I]
    Rev the fucker!!!!!
  14. 11-10-2006, 12:03 PM #34
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    So you have a problem getting it up and staying up hey Matt [8D][^]
  15. 11-10-2006, 01:57 PM #35
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    quote:Originally posted by Buellboy03

    So you have a problem getting it up and staying up hey Matt [8D][^]
    how did i know that response would come from you, all the rest of us were having a nice clean conversation
  16. 11-10-2006, 02:38 PM #36
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    So Fimp u went to stuntskills nice hahaha and u know Ned are u a stunter in hiding

    Im just saying benifits of clutching - if your in a 60km zone or a 110 zone u with traffic 30m infrount of u u can clutch eaither 1st or 2nd straght to bp and be riding along with said traffic at 60km for 1st and 110 km for second and thats fucking cool!! Now if u were to do a Power wheelie from 60km u would have ended up rear ending the car 30m away or better yet finally got Bp at 160km which isnt really Bp its just at that speeds there is wind resistance slowin the bike and keeping it up as well and when u get caught buy the cops u get done for Neg Riding and Speeding hmmmm

    Here Clutchy Clutchy Clutchy
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    STEP 1 ...... BUY A SUZUKI ...

    STEP 2 ...... ROLL ON THE THROTTLE .....

    STEP 3 ...... HANG ON .....
  18. 11-10-2006, 03:58 PM #38
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    there is another way to make wheelies easer and slow them down at the sme time .............................................

    Biger sprocket oon the back/ smaller on the front
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  19. 12-10-2006, 04:36 PM #39
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    Bigger Sprokets will make it harder to learn coz it will make the throtle more "twitch" but the bigger the sproket the slower u can go i ve been slalling out at bit lately at like 4 kms so i think its time for a 12+
  20. 20-10-2006, 07:01 AM #40
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    Hey if you want to learn to wheelie and want arguments on both power and clutch techniques watch this vid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c91Bjqnsl-k

    They talk you through it and its all pretty good info. I've been using it to work on my technique...

    Now all I need is a nice stretch of road...
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