ToNit,I dont care wot telephone number u got cumin uota ya back door,mines a good thing.I`ll give ya the phone # of who rollded her up on the dyno.I built it.I RIDE it.
see you on the road SCAGGY. (fuque`n hire bus)
ToNit,I dont care wot telephone number u got cumin uota ya back door,mines a good thing.I`ll give ya the phone # of who rollded her up on the dyno.I built it.I RIDE it.
see you on the road SCAGGY. (fuque`n hire bus)
Good on ya mundy. As long as there's guys who're buildin & ridin then we're going in the right direction. While we're on the subject - I threw a post on roadcarver the other day to see what the fairing boys think about what makes a streetfighter here in OZ. A few guys seemed to be thinking down the right track, so.. we're making a start. But we've still got a long way to go.
I saw you guys talking about frames the other day - as a general concensus if we started bringing in frames who would be everyones first choice (pipe down Ash!). I suppose we're talking about Spondon, Harris, Polygon, type set-ups i.e full frame kits.
Would you pay a few grand less (but still a relative SH*t load)for a Magnum-style frame that HASN'T got "HARRIS" on the tank? Would an Aussie care about the same things a pom would?
A copy of a Magnum frame shouldnt be that hard to do, should it?
No reason why something similar cant be done here?
At the end of the day its down to how much you value the Racing History, Excellent reputation, Guaranteed quality, Resale value etc of a Famous name.
I would consider a local built frame at the right price, But to take a risk on an unknown commodity there would need to be a considerable saving.
Ask your self why Spondon, Harris etc havent been put out of business in the UK by folk banging out cheap replica's?
Just my opinion, sure others will think differently.
ToNit,I dont care wot telephone number u got cumin uota ya back door,mines a good thing.I`ll give ya the phone # of who rollded her up on the dyno.I built it.I RIDE it.
see you on the road SCAGGY. (fuque`n hire bus)
MadMundy
Good-on-ya! I will get the Dyno printout for my Katana scaned in for you then, that was my "I built it" bike
Keep on building and thrashing 'em,
I love a bit of competition
I agree with Tony, it is fine having a nice frame but knowing who built it and the fact that it was built by craftsmen with dozens of years experience counts for a great deal. I certainly wouldn't pay anything like the same money for say a Harris or Spondon "replica".
When you buy a Spondon frame you are paying a bit for the name, that's not to say it's like a Harley but you are paying for as Tony says the quality, history and experience.
I think to a large extent an Aussie wants the same as a Brit, they want a quality PROVEN frame. I'm not saying someone here couldn't build frames but I will qualify it by saying I haven't seen the proof yet. I have seen Terry Princes Egli frames and various others but they aren't up there with the big boys yet. I did see some bloke building replica GP frames for around $3000 but again who is this guy and what experience has he had with frame building, I had never heard of him before.
If someone here started a company like Polygon and built good quality frames for a good price they would sell, although the interest in Streetfighters is lagging well behind the rest of the world I do feel we will catch up before too long and why not have a local company cash in on it.
To answer your question Qickdraw I would say bring in Spondon/Harris/Polygon in that order.
Well all I have to say is
Now you all know why we call'em 'whingimg poms' in NZ
[8D]
(guess I'll have ta pull finger'n git some'o them renthal's fer me 1135 after thet eh)
chalk
I have no idea what a whingimg Pom is but is it good ? If you are calling us whingers because we aren't saying what you want to hear then I suppose we are but rather than just trotting out the same tired old cliched insults why not find someone who can produce something here, I mean something worthy of this century, maybe we just aren't willing to settle for second best eh ? :-)
Do you still have any pet sheep ? :-)
FACT. Spondon chassis carries more than twenty years of racing heritage
FACT. Spondon's Suzuki kits are actually good enough for Germany’s bureaucrats, who impose some of the toughest vehicle standards in Europe.
Im sure some bike builders would be happy with a "replica" Spondon or Harris frame, then again some folk are happy with a $10 "made in Taiwan" watch too
No-one is made to buy UK frames, personaly I dont think they are over-priced (as a kit), feel free to go else where and see what you get?
I keep hearing "we can do that"
Well done! Dont say it, go and do it!
Dont get stressed folk,
Its only a bit of text on a web-site
Enough of this crap, im off out to play!
Ash, I think this is what a localy built frame may look like!
Joke! For Christ sake...Joke!
Oh Jeez, im in trouble again
Don't take much to get some tits goin' does it.
Al least that's somthing we can do in backward Oz eh
That bloke should have his tools taken away.
quote:Originally posted by Tony Nitrous
Ash, I think this is what a localy built frame may look like!
Joke! For Christ sake...Joke!
Oh Jeez, im in trouble again
Admitting the problem is half way to solving it.
quote:Originally posted by chalk10
Don't take much to get some tits goin' does it.
Al least that's somthing we can do in backward Oz eh
Ash - are you still looking at working with Spondon as an importer? I wouldn't like to step on your toes at this early stage, or anything, mate!
That guy that built the GP replica was Mike Costin and I believe he's a fireman! He's got a site at micoproducts.net
I pretty much got the answer I thought I would as far as the frame builders goes - it seems the general consensus is that people recognise quality anywhere in the world (plus the fact that 99% of the people buying specialist frames would be poms!)
at least that bloke had the balls to build it .... id have a beer with him any day. people build bikes subject to the dollars they have. id have a spondon/harris tomorrow if i had the money. but i dont. ill stick with my backwards aussie style any day. but i wont knock your mega dollar frames either.
Ozkat, I think you are taking this a little bit too seriously. I don't know where this backwards Aussie style came from, we have said that we are behind the times as far as Streetfighters go but that's it. I guess some people don't know my humour too well.
I don't seriously knock anyone for having a go but the bloke who built that frame seriously does need his tools taking away
Anyway 99% of what I say is said with tongue firmly in cheek so don't get too [}]about it. I'm rarely serious except when I say the Brits make the best frames
Qickdraw, I would love to do it BUT I don't think it is a possibility at present. If you can do it I would be only too happy to see it happen. I don't care who brings them in as long as some-one does.
I had a look on the microproducts website and the frames look nice, does he actually build them himself ? If so what qualifications does he have ? The price of the bare frame puts them more or less on par with a basic bare Spondon frame.
I think you are right, 99% of the people buying the frames probably would be Brits.
quote:Originally posted by qickdraw
Ash - are you still looking at working with Spondon as an importer? I wouldn't like to step on your toes at this early stage, or anything, mate!
That guy that built the GP replica was Mike Costin and I believe he's a fireman! He's got a site at micoproducts.net
I pretty much got the answer I thought I would as far as the frame builders goes - it seems the general consensus is that people recognise quality anywhere in the world (plus the fact that 99% of the people buying specialist frames would be poms!)
Spondon Frame / Arm,
Kat Bodywork,
Bandit / GSX-R Motor,
Turbo,
NOS,
Seems a shame to use a Spondon frame on a dragbike but seeing as this bike just won the UK Streetbike/Drag Championship who's to say!
Nobody has mentioned "Steelheart" yet?
http://www.steelheart-engineering.com/frames.htm
I Suppose its another new (to most people) name and will take a while to get established.
I THINK they went from chop to drag frames and now do alloy and single siders etc (Dont quote me, could be wrong!)
The poms seem to forget that we backward Aussies don't have to spend 6 months of the year playing garage queen.
we go riding instead [8D]
PS is that a steel frame[?]
Funniest looking steel I've ever seen.I thought you were a Kiwi Chalk ?
Oh you forgot we only wash once a week and hide our money under the soap and drink warm beer of course
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