How did ya go with ya 9 second quarter for 9 grand?
Mission accomplished?
How did ya go with ya 9 second quarter for 9 grand?
Mission accomplished?
Actually it was meant to be 8 for 8 but the way business has been for the last couple of years, has meant no fun stuff for me just work. So it's been put on the back burner.quote:livewire Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 00:24:16
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How did ya go with ya 9 second quarter for 9 grand?
Mission accomplished?
Not a good thing to happen to any bike let alone the Judge . I have no doubt that it will be back and riding in no time .
She still looks bling a fuk even with the motor out .
Ben, any pic's of the filter ?quote:Originally posted by EXBEN
Ok so here's what happened. Lack of oil pressure due to the scotts reusable oil filter trying to suck itself inside out.
I'd be greatful for any info on the Scotts filters failing as I know folk who use these.
Thanks,
Tony.
Are those Scott filters sold under any other brand names?
I have a pc racing brand billet jobbie from the states on mine - wonder if facing a similar situ......
http://pcracingusa.com/store/index.php?cPath=13_5
Bens unfortunately is first i had heard about with issues
is the prob with the scotts just with forced engines? or natural too?
Actually the one on my bike was a K&P one from bikespares.com.au.
When I removed it the screen was twisted up a lot more, I've straightened it out before this photo. The ends had come unglued which had allowed it to suck in more.
This isn't because the bike is turbocharged, although when discussing it with Booster he made a good point that you get more clutch wear in a turbo bike & these filters are designed to filter much smaller particles than standard filters & probably are more prone to cloging up with fine particles of clutch material. Im not going to bad mouth the filter as they seem to be a high quality item, but I won't use one anymore on a highly stressed motor where good flow is essential.
It appears not to be an isolated case either.
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/...topic=147437.0
Too much suck...not enough blow?[]
**** UPDATE ******
Full version of video is here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xueHAMidaBA[/youtube]
Ahhh the memories..........[xx(]
after seeing the entire video i knew it was bad but not that bad "HOLLY BENT CONRODS BATMAN" that had the potential to be very bad mate , glad that no 1 was injured mate
Nice vid.
Woulda preferred to hear the pops and bangs tho'
Nice one... love when the turbo starts burning up (i assume from oil pissing out onto it...) at least it is immortalised on the internet. Much better than it happening and not having the video to remember it by.
Impressive stuff! In a shit kind of way of course....
Ouch! It's not nice to see that happen to any bike, let alone one of your favourite...
Still, far better for that to happen on the dyno than when out on the open road...
Get that race motor chucked in Ben, the 8-for-8 bike can wait!
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Ya'll heard the man.. break out the credit cards guys and let the man have some fun.. Need I remind you of some of the awesomeness he has provided over time, Venom , 8 for 8, Bling Front End, Balakov's K5 Turbo just to name a handfull.. we need a new build with lots of eye candy.. Ben's good at them..quote:Originally posted by EXBEN
the way business has been for the last couple of years, has meant no fun stuff for me just work. So it's been put on the back burner.
As Booster said, high performance engines have the tendancy to increase clutch wear and degeneration many times over compared to standard. However, nearly most issues of engine oil failure are due to the lack of engine oil. As my family owns Brisbane Air Cleaner Services I have seen cases like this time and time again. They normally result from an aftermarket filter which may or may not be matched correctly. Also a thing to add is dirty oil never results in dramatic engine failure, just increases wear at contact points.
The main issue IMO here is the original manufacturer of the after market filter does not specify a bypass spring or flow pressure as part of their filter specifications. They gone on about how much they flow, however when running an engine beyond its original capabilities (as we all love to do and is part of every day living)heat is one of the major problems being that when oil increases in heat it will also reduce in viscosity. When this happens oil pressure suffers and may not maintain its original pump flow / PSI which will actuate filter bypass spring. Therefore, as the filter fills up with materials e.g. clutch, it clogs the flow of the oil. This is where oil bypass systems must be married accordingly to engine pump specs. It is always better to have a lighter bypass spring in a higher hp engine which will result in dirtier oil but will still maintain high flow.
This is something that it should be no. 1 on the filter manufacturer's priority list. No one can ever complain if a filter gets clogged because it is doing it's job, but tragedy happens when it stops all oil. They don't even have a liability clause stating that this may or may not meet your manufacturer's specifications. They just go on to say how good it is, good for what ??? and which engine, like Scott's Performance Filters. http://www.scottsperformance.com/pro...php?PartType=3
Also, when matching filters to engines, if you contact a filter specialist they will be able to give you PSI spring loads relating to OEM bypass filters. They also in most cases can give you a larger surface area filter that will do the job as long as space and size permits.
One of the best possible scenarios to ensure clean oil is to run an additional filter/s which are on a separate system that can be plumbed into the system before OEM filter and then bleed back into the sump. This way should they clog up oil flow is not compromised.
You are on the money Ben, stick with OEM or equivalent like Micro, Fleetguard or any other Japanese or USA made filters. Saw the vid and i was sadhad to have a rant
As for The Judge, I know that you would already have a plan.
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