PDA

View Full Version : boxing day Scott Kalitta memorial



Jockney Rebel
29-12-2008, 01:19 AM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/864620101102789.jpg
met some familiar faces from casino ..and my son blagged another seat lol
:D

Jockney Rebel
29-12-2008, 01:21 AM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/86462010191579.jpg

Jockney Rebel
29-12-2008, 01:25 AM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/86462010197958.jpg
///second time at the drags and imhooked gotta bulid me a 2 stroke old skool drag bike any advice welcomed

Fish
29-12-2008, 07:44 AM
Drag racing bug bites again. and it bloody bites hard!

chuffed
01-01-2009, 02:53 PM
If your interested i know where theres a old school dragbike for sale, would atleast need a freshen up or rebuild into more what you want, its got a 750 triple in it !!

ozkat
01-01-2009, 04:25 PM
Some inspiration for you Jim.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/417786633182395.jpg


Or maybe this one
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/41778663377355.jpg

bones
01-01-2009, 08:12 PM
go for it Jockney!!!We need some more racers.Would be legal for nostalga as well.
cheers Bones

Weaselman
01-01-2009, 08:31 PM
Yup im looking into an extended swinger for my XJR...

Does anyone sell lowered springs for modern bike forks?

ozkat
01-01-2009, 08:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Weaselman

Yup im looking into an extended swinger for my XJR...

Does anyone sell lowered springs for modern bike forks?
Mate unless your running a 100% dragbike this is what you need for the front end http://cyanideracing.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=61&category_id=44&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=30 www.cyanideracing.com.au is run by Abusa he is a longtime member here he will hook you up with what you need.

sharky
01-01-2009, 09:07 PM
quote:Yup im looking into an extended swinger for my XJR..
R1's are 2-3" longer..

Jockney Rebel
01-01-2009, 11:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by ozkat

Some inspiration for you Jim.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/417786633182395.jpg


Or maybe this one
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/41778663377355.jpg

he he he [mad maniacal laff ] well if im going out i might as well go out in style ..yeah thats an animal but i may need something a bit less mental to start with ..lol..oh and ill be bending ur ears ..rick and oz... if things go to plan ill be living in brissy this year

w195
08-01-2009, 09:06 PM
Old RD maybe?

Jockney Rebel
08-01-2009, 09:56 PM
how old does the bike have to be for nostalgia and are there any handicaps for strokers when racing four strokes ?[apart from the piolt of course ..me in other words lol

ozkat
09-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Here you go Jim a more basic 2 stroke dragbike for you.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/81094635519301.jpg

ozkat
09-01-2009, 08:19 PM
As you want to go quicker just add another motor.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/81094635540070.jpg

Cruisecontrol
09-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Please pardon my ignorance, but since two strokes lack torque would that not mean they are all but useless in a drag-type environment?

Jockney Rebel
09-01-2009, 09:56 PM
i dunno dan thats why i wanna try one ...but i do know H2s were killing evrything in the seventies.their power to wieght ratio was way better than any of the contemporary four strokes .
they produce twice as many power strokes as a 4 stroke .
look at the 350ypvs in1983 [50bhp] and compare figures to a 350 performance 4stroke of similar capacity of the same era or an RG500 against... say an early GPZ600 [this would be about the time 4strokes were catching up ] if my memory serves me well the RG had nearly the same 0-60mph time as a GSXR750slabbie and an equivilant standing quarter time.

Jockney Rebel
09-01-2009, 09:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by ozkat

As you want to go quicker just add another motor.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/81094635540070.jpg

tell me those arent TS500lumps ...lol

Tony OW31
09-01-2009, 11:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

Please pardon my ignorance, but since two strokes lack torque would that not mean they are all but useless in a drag-type environment?

That is a bit of a myth, most two strokes of equal capacity will have more torque at lower rpm than four strokes. I think it is because people are used to comparing them on a performance basis, and for equal performance a four stroke is usually twice the capacity.

papa smurf
10-01-2009, 09:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Tony OW31


quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

Please pardon my ignorance, but since two strokes lack torque would that not mean they are all but useless in a drag-type environment?

That is a bit of a myth, most two strokes of equal capacity will have more torque at lower rpm than four strokes. I think it is because people are used to comparing them on a performance basis, and for equal performance a four stroke is usually twice the capacity.



Spot on Tony,
That's why there's a guy up north (who unfortunatley doesn't bring his bike out very often)with a CR500 that just tears up the strip.
Last i heard it had run in the 9 second zone i think.

Jockney Rebel
10-01-2009, 10:02 PM
...i thot so ...thats why i didnt buy a cb250in 1977 and opted for an RD....anyway ARE those enignes ..T500 titan engines cos the look very similar

evad
11-01-2009, 06:33 PM
they sure are T500s I think there was not a great deal of difference between the T500 Titan and the TR500 road racer basic motor ... Same goes for the GT750 and the TR750s I think.
HOw about this jim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NuIGSv4vC8&feature=channel

Cruisecontrol
11-01-2009, 06:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by Tony OW31


That is a bit of a myth, most two strokes of equal capacity will have more torque at lower rpm than four strokes. I think it is because people are used to comparing them on a performance basis, and for equal performance a four stroke is usually twice the capacity.



I am only going off previous experience. I had an RZ500 that was an absolute pig to get off the line without copious amounts of clutch drag...

Also, if that is the case Tony, why are two strokes not used more?

Jockney Rebel
11-01-2009, 07:02 PM
i guess when u tune em theyre fragile ....

Tony OW31
11-01-2009, 07:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol


quote:Originally posted by Tony OW31


That is a bit of a myth, most two strokes of equal capacity will have more torque at lower rpm than four strokes. I think it is because people are used to comparing them on a performance basis, and for equal performance a four stroke is usually twice the capacity.



I am only going off previous experience. I had an RZ500 that was an absolute pig to get off the line without copious amounts of clutch drag...

Also, if that is the case Tony, why are two strokes not used more?


The RD/RZ 500 had a very high first gear ratio, that's why it was hard to get off the line, but if you compared it to anything of the same capacity in that era, it would be gone (apart from the RG500).
They don't use two strokes anymore because they cannot meet the emission regulations, although some of the high pressure direct injection marine outboards do.

Yamaha is the only manufacturer to make equivalent two and four strokes now

YZ250 specs
Engine Type: Single cylinder 2-stroke
Engine Displacement: 249cc
Bore & Stroke: 66.4 x 72mm
Compression Ratio: 10.9:1
Max HP: 41.3 HP @ 8400 rpm
Max Torque: 28 lb-ft. @ 7600 rpm

YZ250F specs
2009 Yamaha YZ250F Specs
2009 Yamaha YZ250F
Engine Displacement: 250cc
Max Horsepower: 33.3 HP @ 11,900 rpm
Max Torque: 17.4 lb-ft. @ 8600 rpm

Cruisecontrol
11-01-2009, 07:07 PM
Cheers for the reply.

Cruisecontrol
11-01-2009, 07:32 PM
My only query there is would those figures be taken at the crank or the rear wheel?

Tony OW31
11-01-2009, 07:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Cruisecontrol

My only query there is would those figures be taken at the crank or the rear wheel?

They where from the motorcycle usa mx shootout, they test all the bikes on the dyno on the same day.

w195
13-01-2009, 06:26 AM
Jockney, I THINK but dont quote me, that to run Nostalgia your bike has to either be an American Twin or Pre 1980 Jap. That was the case a couple of years ago when I looked into it anyway. My old man races his ute at nostalgia meets so I'll ask him and let ya know.

w195
13-01-2009, 12:20 PM
Jockney, you can email this lady for info about Nostalgias.
chris.sims9@bigpond.com

ozkat
13-01-2009, 01:01 PM
I know a year or 2 ago Smurf was interested in running in the Nostalgias but they wernt running bikes, im pretty sure its still the same. Its a real shame if they dont let the older bikes in.

papa smurf
13-01-2009, 05:13 PM
They ran bikes at the last one but apparently it was invitation only.[}:)]
I must have upset someone with the email i sent them ( hard to believe i know) but i never got an invite.:(
Different people running it now too so fucked if i know what's going on now & i don't have the old girl any more so no matter to me anyway.

Jockney Rebel
13-01-2009, 10:32 PM
thanks for all the info guys im definately interested ..in running some sort of 2 stroke ..whether it be a hybrid or a n old stoker ..just for fun ..

chuffed
14-01-2009, 11:21 AM
Mick Hansen up here in Mackay has a CR500 that i've seen run 10.0 a few times, it may have gone into the 9's. Ronnie Stayte has an old race bike that he was selling last time i saw him at the track, if your interested in buying something that needs rebuilding, i'll grab some photos for ya

BANDITROD
14-01-2009, 04:31 PM
hey i reckon thats scotty macs bosse's cr500 your talking about mate i am pretty sure he still live's in mackay

Jockney Rebel
16-01-2009, 05:35 PM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5qROwMqCLAw&feature=related
cop this little gem :D