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sharky
22-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Ok...where to start.....
All that remains of the stock bike is literally the frame,motor and swing arm.......that's it...everything else is gone.....fake scoops...air box cover...the lot..
Its now sitting on 04 r1 forks in 70mm slab yokes with a billet 17x3.5" wheel (pattern copied from stock 18"r)
There's a matching 17x6" on it's way for the rear.
The air box cover started life as an EX650 tank...slightly modified lol.
There will be a new tank...increasing capacity from 15 to 20ish litres......gonna be fun to do....
I'll get some more pics up as it progresses.....
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp276/sharkster68/20130121_172834_resized_1.jpg

RevHead
22-01-2013, 09:44 PM
really cool billet wheel ,the triples match the wheel perfectly

ozzy1100
22-01-2013, 10:23 PM
Its a gay moblie for vest wearing poofs....

wackyrider
22-01-2013, 10:39 PM
Those triples look nice. The handlebars... Not my style, but definitely keen to see what you come up with mate

BANDITROD
22-01-2013, 10:58 PM
thats looking cool russ

DCRacing
23-01-2013, 09:04 AM
You have always inmpressed me with the way you build bikes and the outside the box ideas, looking forward to this one....

El_Hefty
23-01-2013, 09:16 AM
thats just a tease, where the rest of it Russ?.

I like what i see though

Gix11
23-01-2013, 10:53 AM
Yea Russ, more photos mate, that looks cool.

sharky
23-01-2013, 08:45 PM
Ok....
As I said the tankcover was an old EX650 tank from Dakabin trash and treasure for $20....

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Bit of trimming with the grinder and ouila'.........

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ozzy1100
23-01-2013, 08:49 PM
btw peeps those pics dont show just how well that cover suits the bike........

by way of btw russ how many mkr 1 mkr2 etc did it take ahmmmm lol Im always right fucker :-)

ozzy1100
01-02-2013, 10:52 PM
here is a leaked pic of the back rim peeps
russ has been busy away in the dog box of a work space he has to fuck about in and this is the pic he sent though today.

he has been busy putting on his thinking cap and working out the rolling dia of the diffrent profiles between the 15 and 17 rear rim.
He is aiming to be close to the same fianl drive ratio just by the smart use of standard size tyres insead of the real drama of changeing drive ratio involved with a shaft drive or worse liveing with a bike that rides wrong cause its not right like a lot of these style bikes.

Of he went to the top with like a head like a sparkplug of a champion mono and a 2nd hand trye was mated to all that billet, one of the few billet piece's on this bike.... billet cost money you know. Must be the old cheep pommy blood or something.
Any way he tells me he only did it to check side clearance but I think he only did it to look at how sexy it looks.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n493/ozzy1100/lyntonsiphone049600x443_zpsa1531b7d.jpg

MONO
01-02-2013, 11:05 PM
wow pics already......show us more

Gix11
02-02-2013, 09:03 AM
Oooo! Nice wheel. What is it and where from?

sharky
02-02-2013, 11:07 AM
The wheels are from the usa mate....UFO Performance.
Can't fault the service or quality....weren't cheap.....but then....I didn't pay for them lol

Tony Nitrous
02-02-2013, 12:00 PM
Interesting build Russ.
Modded Max's aren't as common here as in the UK.

Good to see you can get decent size tyres now.
What's going on the rear?
I've tried 190/50 and 200/50 but 3 of mine have
6" rears and I'm realy liking the 190/55's.
Suppose it depends on whether it needs ground
clearance of the steering quickening / calming down.

Keep the updates coming.

Gix11
03-02-2013, 09:16 PM
Just checked the website. How did you get that for free? That's a LOT of free! Very very nice though. I'm a big fan of those.

sharky
03-02-2013, 09:25 PM
I got a damn good girlie....they were my xmas pressie :)

BANDITROD
03-02-2013, 11:08 PM
looking good russ and you should marry her for that

ozzy1100
04-02-2013, 07:03 AM
Russ- married with children- this gets better and better :-)

sharky
04-02-2013, 07:11 AM
Get to work ya fag.....

sharky
04-02-2013, 07:34 AM
Back on topic....
I've done some research on tyre sizes and the effects on the gearing.
The stock max rear is 150/90/15.....this equates to 4100rpm @ 110k
Mates running a 150/80 and this increases the revs to 4500 at same speed..(he is always first to need fuel on a run)
I'd hoped to fit a 190/50 but this is only marginally better at 4450rpm.
Mono has been majorly helpful here and can supply a 190/60 with a decent profile...
Going by the graph I drew up this would give 3850rpm at 110k
This is more acceptable as its a lot of my time is spent in the 100-120 range....better fuel range .....and enough grunt on tap to roll on smooth....or drop a gear to kick it in the guts and rip the b'jeesus out of it....

Tony Nitrous
04-02-2013, 07:54 AM
190/60 will gear it up but isn't a popular size
if you want anything sticky. Maybe lower rev's
and more K's would be better than outright grip?

Wouldn't a 200/55 give you similar gearing too?
Although that not a real popular size.

Interesting trying to change the gearing with the tyre,
The downside being you can't do it without effecting
several other things, ground clearance, the way it
tips in, the effect on the front end, ect.

I've had a few different tyres on 6" rims and there's
always gains and loss's.

Interesting thread Russ.

sharky
04-02-2013, 08:26 AM
Mono has a couple of good ones in stock that size Tony.
There's also some 200's with very similar size (later plans...new arm,fatter tyre).
As you see on the pics there's not even a subframe at the moment...the bike is set up level in my jig, with rake set as per xjr so whatever tyre I go for I'll build the subframe/shock mounts etc to suit.

I looks into cos the yank forums were all like 'oh no..the gear ratios all wrong with 17"....have to change the diff'
I politely pointed out that they could try new profile sizes....'Doh' :)

Tony Nitrous
04-02-2013, 08:39 AM
Yeah, I guessed that talking with Mono you'd have
something planned, I was just saying that a 6" rim
is stock on sportsbikes and there's a huge range of
sticky 190/50 and 55's but a lot less choice in the
taller less sporty stuff.

200 tyres common OEM on 6" rims along with 190's.
I only went from a 200/50 to a 190/55 to gain a little
height, get a better choice, and a nicer feel tipping it in.

Depends what you want to do with it?
Tour? Chase sportsbikes? Drags? Show's?

Good thing about tyres is you KNOW they're going to be
f#cked and get to try something new untill the next time.

sharky
04-02-2013, 09:16 AM
I'd luv to run something soft and sticky....but vmax+shaft drive = tyre munching....
I tried one on my old XS1100 in the uk....was great....for about 1000 miles.....lol
The190/60's are for the 'power cruises'....Boulevards etc... I need good wear in the centre...the Shinko from Mono was great but after 8k the centre has gone but the sides have loads left.
There's also some good 200's that have a decent, non race, profile.

sharky
04-02-2013, 09:27 AM
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Tony Nitrous
04-02-2013, 10:58 AM
Ridden a few shaft drives but never lived with one.
I would have expected a 160+hp rev happy sportsbike/
Busa/B-King to have been just as bad? Although they
dont carry the weight. I've just put 4000ks on some
Sportmax Sportsmarts and there's loads left. Qualifiers
were similar too. I have some Pilot Road 3's on spare
wheels but not done enough K's to judge.
Some of the modern sports tyres wear OK.

How much weight are you hoping to lose off the bike?
Something noticeable ?

sharky
05-02-2013, 08:06 PM
Got the new tyre fitted today, HUGE thanks again to Mono.
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Tony Nitrous
05-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Looks good!

Have you ran a tape around stock / new and compared
the rolling distance ? I used a cloth tape around the
wheel but just walking it across the garage floor would
be a rough guide. What are you using for a speedo?
stock cable drive or aftermarket?

Gix11
05-02-2013, 08:21 PM
Said it before, and now I'll say it again; Love those wheels mate.

sharky
05-02-2013, 08:37 PM
Cheers Si,
Stock is 2041mm, new one is 2085mm.
Speedo is going to be electronic, acewell type, sensor mounted off the rear wheel.
The wheels are roughly same weight as stock but lots of weight is being lost elsewhere....hopefully.

Tony Nitrous
05-02-2013, 09:12 PM
Is that just over a 2% gain ?
It's been a long day.

Aftermarket speedo will be good, a quick tweek and
mine was very close to GPS/Satnav dispite gearing
and tyre changes.

Wheels realy do look the mutts nuts !

MONO
05-02-2013, 09:52 PM
Also I would like to add that the quality of the workmanshp is so high on these wheels,they are full billet wheel.

However the machining is so good the sides look like they are spun.

hyofighter
05-02-2013, 11:35 PM
that thing is looking sweet already , looking forward to seeing the end product , got a bit of a sweet spot for vmaxs must be the v4 thing

sharky
09-04-2013, 03:30 PM
4097
4099
4098
4100

Been working on the fuel tank of late...morphing a Suzuki across tank with the max tank...least that was the original idea....
Decided it was easier to use the across one and custom build the under seat part.
Started with plywood mock up to get rough shape and then made cardboard one.
This was lined with fibreglass resin as a quick sealer to allow me to fill it with water to get capacity.
Stock max is 15 litres...my cardboard one did away with the battery cutout and came out at 15 liters as well...plus the 4 3/4 in the across unit...sweet......
So far I have got a COPS system sorted for it to do away with 4 stock coils, plus I'm going to mount an in tank fuel pump.
There is also an ignition unit on the market that can run the vboost module...the size of a fag packet...(stock is huge)

sharky
10-04-2013, 04:46 PM
Started the steel one today....1.2mm cold rolled.
Had a go at bending sheet....just one weld instead of using 5 separate pieces...worked a treat.

BANDITROD
10-04-2013, 04:59 PM
when you finish it mate it might be a good idea to use one of those fuel tank sealing kits to stop it rusting

sharky
10-04-2013, 05:21 PM
I will mate...tank will be sandblasted in and out, powdercoated and then sealed inside.
It will have and inspection plate on the top,under riders seat so I can make sure its fully coated.

BANDITROD
10-04-2013, 06:35 PM
cool

ozzy1100
10-04-2013, 08:27 PM
see told you steel is better than that wood stuff.....

sharky
23-04-2013, 05:31 PM
Bit more playing around.....got the seat height lower with minimal loss in capacity

oldskool
23-04-2013, 05:38 PM
Nice pipe that will make ya cock look bigger!

sharky
14-05-2013, 06:29 PM
So...with the looow seat the prob is it could end up very humpy dumpty looking..
After a few Jd's me and the good lady came up with this idea for the bars....

Out with the trusty drop saw and voila...the basic shape is cut....now it's router time...

Gix11
14-05-2013, 07:05 PM
That's mad Russ. Looking forward to seeing this one in the light of day.

Iceman
16-05-2013, 09:27 AM
I like it.

Tony Nitrous
24-08-2013, 05:47 AM
Hard to believe Russ,
But I may have found a V-Max I like......

WANT!!!

http://i41.tinypic.com/9qji39.jpg

oldskool
24-08-2013, 07:52 AM
Tuonomax

Tony Nitrous
24-08-2013, 08:19 AM
Yeah, looks like it.
I think it's from the Froggy Monsters race series
although its looked a little different in the past.

Interesting.

Jockney Rebel
25-08-2013, 09:14 PM
oi sharky you still got that geep ?

slingy88
26-08-2013, 05:31 PM
Now, that is one BRILLIANT fighter. Luv it. Great find