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fimpBIKES
24-11-2007, 09:14 AM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/940793816119200.jpg


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/940793816114983.jpg



starting cost= $350, anyone got a spare loom?

revken
24-11-2007, 02:52 PM
I want one too fimp lol.

Jockney Rebel
24-11-2007, 04:33 PM
i got a loom from a 900 honda for free ..but thats probably no good to ya

TurboKat
24-11-2007, 08:38 PM
Good boy Fimp, you obviously recognise a bargain when you see one, so spill, what are you gunna do with it? If you want my opinion (or even if you don't) I reckon you should use it as a part time trackbike, part time stunt practice bike. [:p]

Chris41
25-11-2007, 01:56 PM
Apparently the RG is a good supermono base I've been told Fimp, theres one idea.
I have a 17 x 3.50 Suzuki rear end I bought by mistake if you are interested.

Chris

-Dex-
25-11-2007, 02:38 PM
I think its ugly and has no potential whatsoever! The guy who sold it to you must have been an arsehole!

themadpostie
25-11-2007, 03:29 PM
:D funny.....

puppet
25-11-2007, 04:09 PM
It's about on par with a GS500.

puppet
25-11-2007, 04:10 PM
or a B-King

themadpostie
25-11-2007, 05:42 PM
I think thats the first, and possibly the last time I'll ever see a GS500 being compared seriously to a B-King....... ;)

fimpBIKES
25-11-2007, 06:33 PM
i agree, the gs500 is a classic bike and a MASSIVE sales success story
and the b-king really, really WONT be....


i have plans
mainly a quick redo to get it rego'd and hand her over to that lovely lady who accompanied me to the sydney MC expo to learn on


but firstly, does anyone know where i can get a r6 tailpiece from? ;)

Gix11
26-11-2007, 02:18 PM
Frank (FighterMC) just took his off didn't he? Maybe he wants to sell it?

TurboKat
26-11-2007, 02:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES


hand her over to that lovely lady who accompanied me to the sydney MC expo to learn on
;)

I hope she's a keeper Fimp.

fimpBIKES
26-11-2007, 03:02 PM
haha, we'll see how long it takes me to stuff things up this time eh :D




oh, anyone know where to find a wiring diagram?

fimpBIKES
27-11-2007, 10:51 AM
ok, fuck the wiring diagram

i just did a findapart search for a loom
i have 3 places that can have mint ones on my doorstep for under $80


fuck fixing the wiring for a joke :D

fimpBIKES
27-11-2007, 11:01 AM
oh, another thing i was pondering


what are the legalities with fitting a single-seat rear on something like this?
its not like i would want 2 people on it anyways, and it'll mainly be a learner bike

so do i have to get it re-complied or something?

i get away with it on the tiller cos i have the standard back-end
but frankly i cant be bothered sorting out a stock one for this!

would it have to be engineered you think?

zx12argh
27-11-2007, 12:39 PM
in qld you just have to disable the ability to have a pillion on it (remove foot pegs and either cut off the pillion seat or fit a permanent cowl) and get a compliance plate from a certified mechanic (not engineer). then take the bike to department of transport and you get them to check it out (they dont really care that much as long as you have the plate) - cheaper rego.

I'm doing it with the 12r but i have a mechanic mate who can do it. not sure about down south tho.

fimpBIKES
28-11-2007, 08:24 AM
yeah, we cant do the single seat rego thingy (dont know WHY, probably so they can screw more $$$ out of us)


does anyone in QLD want to "own" an rg250 ;)

fimpBIKES
28-11-2007, 08:53 AM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/49388840918730.jpg


oh, and call me un-original or whatever


but im swinging towards whacking a good ol' dirtbike headlight on her
just cos it'll be easy as fuck ;)

appo
28-11-2007, 09:06 AM
they are nice and easy those headlights....
I had the headlight on my WR smashed and the originals are too much of a
rip-off so i got one of those diamonds....ive never used
them before or really liked them in the past but I know see the ease of
them!!!!! easy as fuck and cheap!

fimpBIKES
28-11-2007, 09:24 AM
what'd u call me [:X]


yeah, the rubber mount thingies just work so well, two seconds on to off :D

Iceman
29-11-2007, 04:37 PM
Hey!

What's with the GS 500 bashing?

fimpBIKES
29-11-2007, 04:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

i agree, the gs500 is a classic bike and a MASSIVE sales success story
and the b-king really, really WONT be....


didnt sound like GS bashing to me?


i emailed fighterMC, he said that tail had been passed on

there is a wrecker in sydney that can do me a whole 2004 r6 rear for $650 (inc subframe, undertray, seats, blinkers etc)
so i'll get her running then probably head in that direction ;)

Iceman
29-11-2007, 04:56 PM
quote:quote:
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Originally posted by fimpBIKES

i agree, the gs500 is a classic bike and a MASSIVE sales success story
and the b-king really, really WONT be....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



didnt sound like GS bashing to me?

It's alright Conrad, I wasn't refering to you. I know you reconize quality motoring when you see it.:D

fimpBIKES
29-11-2007, 10:24 PM
:D

fimpBIKES
07-12-2007, 12:33 PM
alrighty, just ordered myself a whole back-end off a 2004 R6

$620 delivered


managed to confirm chassis numbers with the wrecker in regars to the loom yesterday and that is now posted

hopefully be able to pick em both up monday :D

appo
07-12-2007, 12:39 PM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/1815257716915.jpg

alfiestorm
07-12-2007, 12:47 PM
Now that is fuggin funny nice one appo

fimpBIKES
07-12-2007, 12:53 PM
wow, i think i can feel your "god" up there now...


oh no, thats just an invisible load of hot air! [:P]



ps- u lot asked for all this, you should have know not to "encourage" me at the AFR!

appo
07-12-2007, 12:57 PM
I like the idea of what your doing fimp....
i reckon more smaller bikes should be done, good fun machines..
good onya!!


:):D[8D]

fimpBIKES
07-12-2007, 01:08 PM
believe me, wouldnt do this 250 up as a track bike unless it had to be learner legal

be doing a later RGV ;)


but i figure that if i do it right the R6 tail doesnt HAVE to stay with the little RG permanently

appo
07-12-2007, 01:12 PM
R6 should look the goods on that!!

there is a guy up here who rebuilds RGV's, its just a little
hobby of his, he recently turned out a replica movistar GP bike out
of a early 90's model, fuck it looks good!! i'll try and find you some photos of his handy work!

fimpBIKES
07-12-2007, 01:18 PM
REALLY wanted an new shaped r6 tail, but i think that the older one will suit the bike more in the end anyways


bring on the pics mate!

fimpBIKES
07-12-2007, 01:48 PM
oooh, thanks to the good folks at AuSFR a Koso speedo unit is now on order

hopefully here by Xmas time ;)

debaser
07-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Hey fimpbikes. Did you check e8@y for your parts first. I got the back half of an 04-06 r1 for less than that swingarm and shock 45 american.Even with postage you are still laughing. They have weird salvage rights and for some reason can keep the wreck and part it out. I will never use wreckers again.

fimpBIKES
10-12-2007, 06:57 AM
i tried but there wasnt anything available

on the tiller i just waited around for stuff to show up at the right price,
took frikkin aaages

so im gonna try things a bit differently on this one (less one-off brackets etc, hence the whole subframe ;))

fimpBIKES
11-12-2007, 11:40 AM
big day yesterday (other than the bday business)

the R6 Tail turned up, its got a slight crack and a bit of a scuff
but its all small enough to ingore til after rego ;)

as a bonus, the dude on the phone at Metro Spares said that it had "aftermarket indicators"
what he didnt realise is that it ACTUALLY has a complete Libertek Fender Eliminator, worth US$150 bucks! :D

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/64498072119549.JPG


BUT, that means that it ISNT going to be legal
so i have to now make up a mudflap thingy to get through the rego nazi's, not that im complaining about that cos the eliminator is pretty snazzy

the thing i DID ring up this morning about to have a "bit of a chat" to them about is the lack of pillion seat lock

figured they might try to stiff me on this, cos matching lock kits are worth more together
but they assure me that they are going to dig one up and send it through asap so we shall see how that goes


havent checked out the loom yet, going to hacksaw the rear half of the RG chassis off tonight and see how the tails going to fit-up



ps- got a compressor for my bday off the folks, so i might FINALLY have a bike with a decent paint-job eventually :D

sharky
11-12-2007, 12:24 PM
quote:ps- got a compressor for my bday off the folks, so i might FINALLY have a bike with a decent paint-job eventually
Yep, a nice smooth even coat of matt black.;)

fimpBIKES
11-12-2007, 12:28 PM
:D

fimpBIKES
14-01-2008, 04:28 PM
ok, after a HEAP of phone calls to Metro Wreckers
(one a week for the last month!) i have FINALLY got a package on its way containing a lock for under rear seat and two pillion pegs with brackets

im going to have to fork out and get a ket cut, but thats something im just going to wear


bloody wreckers though, i havent wanted to take the tail out of its box fully cos i was about a day away from sending it back!



so there you go, back on the wagon again ;)

zx12argh
14-01-2008, 09:13 PM
What about the TL fimp? Got anything done on that lately? Fools run is only 77 days away....

fimpBIKES
16-01-2008, 12:04 PM
shit, 77days eh?

i rode the TL to work today, designing up some new handlebar clamps on my lunchbreak now ;)

pt
16-01-2008, 04:55 PM
metro arent too bad, better than a few others around. hope the package turns up!

fimpBIKES
17-01-2008, 10:38 AM
well, they just turned up
shall check that footpegs fit tonight (it says they are off an '06)


im not happy with the aftersales service, for me to have to ring up so many times
and have to leave my details EVERY time indicates that they didnt give a rats arse about me once i had given them my money

only reason they sorted it out is probably cos the last time i rang them they had a slow day and could do it straight away before they forgot!

zx12argh
17-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Hey fimpy - next time try the chinese water torture trick - Call them and ask if its in the mail. If they say no say you will call back in an hour or so to check if its done. Repeat until they send the stuff to you - or they mail you a dog turd. Usually works well ;)

TurboKat
13-02-2008, 05:59 PM
SPARES !!!!!!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200199111435

fimpBIKES
14-02-2008, 10:38 AM
thanks mate


looks like its in better condition then the one i have already!!!


ps- this project is shelved til i have the tiller all happy and AFR ready ;)

Fatgit
01-05-2008, 11:29 AM
Yep well thatone's one of the legendary 'invisible' Suzuki hoodacky's. you're a lucky man to have one of them, looks original too.

Better not lose that one mate.

:D

fimpBIKES
01-05-2008, 11:30 AM
alrighty then, FINALLY got around to playing with this last night

swapped the old burnt-birdnest out for the new loom

went pretty well, apart from the following un-known connections
was wondering if anyone could help me out a bit (given that a lot of old suzi's would have shared electrical components)


so here they are...

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/105269126664336.JPG




http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/105269126682370.JPG


http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/105269126664760.JPG


sorry the colours arent too clear, can check them out tonight and will post in morning ;)


anyone recognise anything?

fimpBIKES
01-05-2008, 11:32 AM
cop that git-boy [:P]


ps- She passed her course last weekend, now just has to do the theory test and pay some $$ and she'll have her license. plan is to get it running, tape a seat onto it and then through it in the ute and head to an industrial area :D

Fatgit
01-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Have you found yourself a new woman there Fimp?

Sorry mate, can't see enough to tell, but that bottom one is gonna bug me all day, I just know I should know that one at least.

PS the Suzuki's do run a couple of spare connectors on their looms, check the fuse panel, you can plug accessories into it. I think that last one is one of them tbh

fimpBIKES
01-05-2008, 12:32 PM
well, um about that
i dont have a fuse panel?!?!?!

does anyone know if the old RG's had the fuse's up in the front fairing?
i have a spare blue connector up there and i assume thats what its for....


oh yeah, and that bottom one
that boot is a dead give-away i think, but i cant quite put my finger on what its for [xx(]

fimpBIKES
05-05-2008, 10:53 AM
no love?


gonna see if the same dude i bought the loom off has a fuse-box too
(given the price of the loom i dont see how the fusebox would be more than 10 bucks!!!)

TurboKat
12-05-2008, 11:40 PM
More spares !!
http://postclassicracing.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4124

fimpBIKES
21-05-2008, 04:56 PM
THANKS turbokat

i gave the guy a call, turns out that he lived about A KILOMETER from fimpHQ
freaky eh?!?!!?

he has one hell of a cagive mito (with a tuned RZ350 engine!!!)



anyways, i scored a whole heap of swag for ONLY $50
plus i made a new friend :D

fimpBIKES
21-05-2008, 05:02 PM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/321809973122372.jpg




so here is what you get for $50
front fairing in good knick
headlight
aluminium fairing bracket
gauges in good cond.
a whole loom in VERY GOOD condition
rear brake switch (i needed one of these)
battery box (no lid, but i needed one anyways)
rear seat
air box, or most of it anyways


and a few other odds and ends, he just wanted to offload it all so....








oh, another thing
got my wiring diagram!!!!! hurrah
turns out there is only one fuse on the whole bike, so no need to track down a fusebox after all


oh and i made a knob of myself trying to get an oil filter for it at the local bike shop
turns out they dont have em [:I]





but on to the other stuff that has been happening (other than an oil change and bleeding the rear brakes on the weekend, thanks to anne for helping out!)

fimpBIKES
21-05-2008, 05:13 PM
i have been working on models for the tailpiece the last few nights

going for something like this...
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/32180997346324.JPG


the "slices" shown were done in 20mm thickness
went down and bought some poly-somethingorother foam this morning

got it in 12mm, heap of it for only 10 bucks

pretty happy, cos some of the resolution on the curves wasnt working too well with the 20mm slices


so now its just a matter of going through and rearranging them to be 12mm thick (and obviously adding a few)

at last count there was 55 or so
but the foam will cut with a knife so it wont take too long to make the profiles



but first im going to do up a proper detailed dummy of the chassis with all the mounting points and everything, cos i wont be able to test-fit the foam plug to the bike before we glass it

using little dowels down the middle to hold it all together




its REALLY bombing out my laptop/notebook doing this
trying to use a technique called "master sketching" where the tail piece shape is brought in as a derived part to each slice, then the first sketch is what makes the slice

then extrude the profile from the back, cutting off anything that isnt on that plane
then i spin it around and do the same from the front (in reference to how it sits on the bike)

then i make it solid up the guts, allowing 15mm cos i want to make a nice lip to sit the seat "into" once its sorted



really looking forward to getting to the cutting foam stage
Annes a bit of a craft-nut and she is willing to overcome her "foam-a-phobia" in order to help get an awesome looking bike




keep u updated ;)

TurboKat
21-05-2008, 07:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES
[br
oh and i made a knob of myself trying to get an oil filter for it at the local bike shop
turns out they dont have em [:I]

:D Obviously your first 2 stroke huh Fimp? :D

zx12argh
22-05-2008, 12:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by turbokat


quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES
[br
oh and i made a knob of myself trying to get an oil filter for it at the local bike shop
turns out they dont have em [:I]

:D Obviously your first 2 stroke huh Fimp? :D


At least he never went looking for a fuel filter on an LPG ute...[:I]

nice work fimp - i'm going to do mine another way but similar. orthographic projections of the tail but use surface tools as mines going to be a fair bit more swoopy. hopefully starting this weekend but need to do subframe and triples first.

fimpBIKES
22-05-2008, 02:00 PM
i saw a great video with solidworks where yeah make a razor habdle thingy
very fancy


thought i'd keep the shape kinda basic on this first one, gradual curves past the inner thighs and a few flat bits towards the end

the seat-base will probably be trickier (but indend to pretty much just lay that up in-place so i get it all spot-on with the latches etc)

got the rest of the slices done up last night, hoping to get a good chassis dummy sorted tonight and also add top and rear photos so i can check those line out too

Jockney Rebel
22-05-2008, 06:05 PM
"oh and i made a knob of myself trying to get an oil filter for it at the local bike shop
turns out they dont have em "
youll be wanting it shimmed next lol ...oh and if the gearbox oil smell s of petrol get ready for a total stripdown..
im eager to see how that stroker goes ..i love em
:D

Cruisecontrol
22-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Gotta love them custom tail pieces.

Can't wait to see the finished product.

Jockney Rebel
22-05-2008, 06:22 PM
ive always wanted a texaco heron rg but then so did everyone else ..

fimpBIKES
04-06-2008, 10:35 AM
had a few "hiccups" in the last week or so

the foam that i had bought, didnt dissolve with the acetone when we tried a sample bit

so i have had to remodel the tail to suit the new stuff we can get which is 13mm blue foam
(shall be picking some up this arvo)


other than that i got Anne on the tools last night and we did good!
got all this done
- installed battery box (need a lid though...)
- installed headlight and gauge bracket (Anne cut her first bolts down to size, did a great job of it too!!)
- installed headlight and gauges (standard units for now...)
- Hooked up Tacho cable both end, tried to do speedo but i couldnt find where the drive comes from??!?!
- Replaced the zip ties holding the mufflers on with actual rubber, sleeves and bolts
- Found a right side footpeg in the box of random bits and bolted it on
- Powered it up and IT DIDNT BURN DOWN MY HOUSE (its in the living room btw)

i think where Mr Dex went wrong with the wiring is in the bit where he removed the key barrel, what he did put a red to a black making a short circuit. and i dont think there was a fuse in his harness (some seem to have em and some dont out of the 3 that i now have laying around)
so that = melty melty

all seems to be sorted now, need to get a few things now though. mainly a
- Key barrel
- Airbox
- Battery box lid
- Tail-light (getting one off exBen, nice little LED thing i designed the rear of the tail to suit)
- Handlebars (tossing up whether a set of clips would suit it...)
- New little rubber thingies to seal the mufflers to the headers, old ones are perished

that'll get it up and running respectively (with a cushion taped on as a seat it'll give anne something to practise on too!)

oh, and did i mention she is quite excited about her fancy strawberry scented 2-stroke oil :D


does anyone know about the speedo dives on these things? i took the cover off the left side of the engine and couldnt see anything to put it into, didnt seem to be anything down near the front wheel either...

zx12argh
04-06-2008, 12:29 PM
Hey fimp - I've lined up a mate (of a mate) to cut out my templates with a cnc router. Woot. Guess I had better get modeling. :D

You should try burning synthetic oil sometime - my mates KTM blew a cylinder gasket and was dropping oil onto the headers - I thought I was following a chocolate bar the whole way home.

fimpBIKES
06-11-2008, 11:51 AM
ok then

with Annies P's test coming up early next year i have (kinda) pulled the pin



ive reached the limit of what i was will to spend (time and money-wise) trying to get it going
still isnt running (probably needs a carb rebuild)
so its going to evolve into something different ;)


we have one a GSX250 to take up learner and provisional license duties (will be able to sell it on and not loose money later on anyways so...)
and this RG is looking to get a heart transplant to become a decently powerful small bike for anne to ride and me to occasional take to the track :D


so im open to opinions as long as the donor is one of the following
- 4 stroke
- single or double cylinder (prefer single cos there is bugger all room)
- lo-tech, so know EFI if i can help it
- 50-60bhp would be nice, looking to get similar power/wieght ratio to my old SV650

and it needs to be SMALL to fit in there



anyone know of anything that'll do the job?

latheboy
06-11-2008, 01:08 PM
I was just getting into this thread and now your up for bigger and badder things .... What about a WR450 but i dont think the power is up there.... you should go to a bike shop with a measuring stick and have a look see

DaveK5
06-11-2008, 07:28 PM
Yep, I agree with latheboy go modern dirt bike engine but look at 500cc+

el sammo
06-11-2008, 11:25 PM
watercooled XR 650 engine woyuld be nice!

loosebruce
06-11-2008, 11:38 PM
KTM 300?

fimpBIKES
07-11-2008, 06:51 AM
good stuff, keep em coming


has h*nda dropped the XR650, its not on their website

anyhoo, i'll be taking a tape measure to the bike shops tomorrow while im there getting the other bike blueslipped ;)
so keep the suggestions comin'

scotty
07-11-2008, 09:23 AM
XR 600 board to 660 (might be a bit hard for the misses to start) but good pow pow

zx12argh
07-11-2008, 12:45 PM
KTM300s make awesome dirt bikes but nasty motards - reckon that would follow through with a road/track bike.

Be careful and check the service intervals of some of the hypo 500cc dirt bikes unless you want to service it every week (KTM450 has 12 hour service interval and engine rebuild every 90 hours) tho they do make it easy/cheap to service.

I reckon a breathed on drz400, great bottom end torque, 6000km service interval, 55 hp water cooled and apparently it does 160 with more in it with tall-ish dirt gearing (tho like my signature says I can neither confirm nor deny this ;)) - tho you'll definately need a cush drive system as the gearboxes are a bit fragile (or aren't I get conflicting reports) - the DRZ400SM comes with cush drives and HALF the power of stock drz to make the box last. Mind you there is a turbo drz getting around... Theres a thought :D

07-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Check your mail C-Rad

Jay_G
08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
CR 500, KX 500, nuff said!!!!