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Deano
23-10-2005, 01:02 PM
i think i need some pod filters for the 7/11 conversion

i have heard that when building a watercooled 7/11 you cant use the airbox as it don't fit.

that being so what pods should i go for

single pod per carb or 1 pod to suit 2 carbs?

i am intrested to hear what good/bad experiences people have had with their pod filters?

fimpBIKES
23-10-2005, 06:26 PM
i would just stick little ones on each carb, be a shite-load easier!

i imagine the airbox issue is so u can use the 750's tank?

fimpBIKES
23-10-2005, 06:26 PM
i would just stick little ones on each carb, be a shite-load easier!

i imagine the airbox issue is so u can use the 750's tank?

23-10-2005, 07:03 PM
Deano i have BMC twin pods 4 mine,but yet to strap em on,fukin classy look that shits on singles.was chatin about it with mad an he wished he'd gone twins as well.not sure why but might be easier to tune.got em 4 $100 brand new,pays to be rite place at rite time

23-10-2005, 07:03 PM
Deano i have BMC twin pods 4 mine,but yet to strap em on,fukin classy look that shits on singles.was chatin about it with mad an he wished he'd gone twins as well.not sure why but might be easier to tune.got em 4 $100 brand new,pays to be rite place at rite time

Deano
25-10-2005, 12:21 PM
thanx guys

was partial to twin carbs per. will get a price on ome k&n filters and see how i go

Deano
25-10-2005, 12:21 PM
thanx guys

was partial to twin carbs per. will get a price on ome k&n filters and see how i go

hooligan
25-10-2005, 03:42 PM
About $125 for each twin carb filter (i just replaced my old ones)

hooligan
25-10-2005, 03:42 PM
About $125 for each twin carb filter (i just replaced my old ones)

25-10-2005, 10:04 PM
hiclone

25-10-2005, 10:04 PM
hiclone

fimpBIKES
26-10-2005, 07:29 PM
it make gold coins come out your zorst LOL

fimpBIKES
26-10-2005, 07:29 PM
it make gold coins come out your zorst LOL

27-10-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/27-10-2005_18.10.52Photo001.jpgsorry bout the foto quality

27-10-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/upload/27-10-2005_18.10.52Photo001.jpgsorry bout the foto quality

Deano
28-10-2005, 07:51 AM
that what i am after davo

have to get the diameters and spacings from the carbs and get me some ordered.

all going well the 1100 wil go in next weekend.

Deano
28-10-2005, 07:51 AM
that what i am after davo

have to get the diameters and spacings from the carbs and get me some ordered.

all going well the 1100 wil go in next weekend.

Gix11
28-10-2005, 11:01 AM
Who's trying to get out from under that sheet Davo?

Gix11
28-10-2005, 11:01 AM
Who's trying to get out from under that sheet Davo?

Deano
28-10-2005, 05:18 PM
well i may be fucked on this topic

i just logged onto k&n and it don't seem like there is a pod filter set up that will fit my bike

the inlet diameter is 58mm and all the ones k&n do are either 57mm or 60mm

I am sure i could strech a 58mm but then the spacings on the duel inlet filters are all up the shit as i need 85.5mm

then if i go for individual filters i have the problem that i need a maximum outside dia of 71mm
or the filters will hit each other.

i also looked at oval filters aswell but no luck.

any other ideas guys?

Deano
28-10-2005, 05:18 PM
well i may be fucked on this topic

i just logged onto k&n and it don't seem like there is a pod filter set up that will fit my bike

the inlet diameter is 58mm and all the ones k&n do are either 57mm or 60mm

I am sure i could strech a 58mm but then the spacings on the duel inlet filters are all up the shit as i need 85.5mm

then if i go for individual filters i have the problem that i need a maximum outside dia of 71mm
or the filters will hit each other.

i also looked at oval filters aswell but no luck.

any other ideas guys?

28-10-2005, 05:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Gix11

Who's trying to get out from under that sheet Davo?
thats my pig,her name is Borris.

28-10-2005, 05:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Gix11

Who's trying to get out from under that sheet Davo?
thats my pig,her name is Borris.

28-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Deano try www.dynobike.com , they have BMC's to suit your carbs for $95 each.no specs supplied but i'm sure the lads will be more than happy to reply to an email.or try www.bmcairfilters.com they also make conical singles

28-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Deano try www.dynobike.com , they have BMC's to suit your carbs for $95 each.no specs supplied but i'm sure the lads will be more than happy to reply to an email.or try www.bmcairfilters.com they also make conical singles

Deano
29-10-2005, 09:48 AM
davo
seems like that is just a standard replacement filter.

gave them a call and they are going to check and ring me back

Deano
29-10-2005, 09:48 AM
davo
seems like that is just a standard replacement filter.

gave them a call and they are going to check and ring me back

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:27 PM
only been able to find a filter in the uni filter range (like the one on your dirt bike)

they do a foam filter that i can put on my carbs it is one filter but will cover all 4 carbs

they are a common item for the speedway boys

not my first preferance but will see how i go with dynobike and the bmc filters he was going to check for me

The huy at dynobike sounded like he new what he was talking about. He reconed that the twin pod style were the best as the individual pods dont flow enough air therefore are alot harder to setup and you are more likely to have problems with midrange and topend tuning.

he said if i had to go with individual filters that the unifilters will flow more therefore be better and easier to jet and set up.

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:27 PM
only been able to find a filter in the uni filter range (like the one on your dirt bike)

they do a foam filter that i can put on my carbs it is one filter but will cover all 4 carbs

they are a common item for the speedway boys

not my first preferance but will see how i go with dynobike and the bmc filters he was going to check for me

The huy at dynobike sounded like he new what he was talking about. He reconed that the twin pod style were the best as the individual pods dont flow enough air therefore are alot harder to setup and you are more likely to have problems with midrange and topend tuning.

he said if i had to go with individual filters that the unifilters will flow more therefore be better and easier to jet and set up.

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:28 PM
does anyone know were i can get some ram tubes to suit inlet dia 58mm carbs

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:28 PM
does anyone know were i can get some ram tubes to suit inlet dia 58mm carbs

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

i would just stick little ones on each carb, be a shite-load easier!

i imagine the airbox issue is so u can use the 750's tank?


i think it is more that the longer stoke of the 1100 means that the carbs and airbox sits a bit higher in the frame and that then hits the frame. i think

Deano
31-10-2005, 04:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by fimpBIKES

i would just stick little ones on each carb, be a shite-load easier!

i imagine the airbox issue is so u can use the 750's tank?


i think it is more that the longer stoke of the 1100 means that the carbs and airbox sits a bit higher in the frame and that then hits the frame. i think

01-11-2005, 05:54 PM
Deano,a few facts...1989-1991,most powerful of the lot,massive torque,with good jetting ya get 146+HP outa these.de-restricted 36mm Mikuni's work well with both stage 1 an stage 3 induction kits,an ya dont loose any mid range with stage 3.5%power gain over stage 1 but costs a tad more an takes a bit more setting up.gota be a good exhaust.advantage of the 1127 is it takes stage 3 head flow,big valves,race valve springs,wild cam jobs and flatslides.but moving onto the M model with 40mm carbs they are nuthin but probs with a stage 3 kit.go with the stage 1 as the airbox is fine since the carbs are too big for the engine an ya loose heaps o midrange with little top end gain if ya chose stage 3,just de-restricting the carbs properly gains ya 9BHP alone.to make an M model scream ya need 41mm keihin flatslides.

01-11-2005, 05:54 PM
Deano,a few facts...1989-1991,most powerful of the lot,massive torque,with good jetting ya get 146+HP outa these.de-restricted 36mm Mikuni's work well with both stage 1 an stage 3 induction kits,an ya dont loose any mid range with stage 3.5%power gain over stage 1 but costs a tad more an takes a bit more setting up.gota be a good exhaust.advantage of the 1127 is it takes stage 3 head flow,big valves,race valve springs,wild cam jobs and flatslides.but moving onto the M model with 40mm carbs they are nuthin but probs with a stage 3 kit.go with the stage 1 as the airbox is fine since the carbs are too big for the engine an ya loose heaps o midrange with little top end gain if ya chose stage 3,just de-restricting the carbs properly gains ya 9BHP alone.to make an M model scream ya need 41mm keihin flatslides.

01-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Lesson 2.1992-1995 1100 wn,wp,wr 1074cc models.there is no stage 3 kit avaliable for these an the air box is very good.if ya wanna go beyond stage 1 ya definately need 41mm flatties.but try playin around with ya main an needle an fit a K+N but leave the rest of the intake alone.Zaust's r a bit far n few between on the watercoolers but Termignoni apparently fit properly.wiseco do a big bore kit to take her out to 1117cc but ya can just fit 1127 pistons for an estimated 160BHP.standard heads on the water cooled models are very good but ya can also fit 38mm 750L carbs which are not too big yet not too small.if ya loose bottom end-mid range on any of these models a 5 degree ignition advancer helps pull it like a train outa corners.also dialling in the stock cams can gain 5BHP alone.also float height is critical when jetting.Sorry to be biased but the K motor is the best GSX-r ever built,ports are perfect size,its extremely strong an very powerful.just ask Ozkat,my standard 89 shits on his 91 even tho i'm a few pounds lighter.:D150Hp is easy to obtain yet it remains rideable.just a shame they fucked up with the susspension.
cheers brother.;)


if ya want the low down on any of these specs just let me know,been studyin this area for a while so be happy to point ya in the wrong direxion.:D

01-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Lesson 2.1992-1995 1100 wn,wp,wr 1074cc models.there is no stage 3 kit avaliable for these an the air box is very good.if ya wanna go beyond stage 1 ya definately need 41mm flatties.but try playin around with ya main an needle an fit a K+N but leave the rest of the intake alone.Zaust's r a bit far n few between on the watercoolers but Termignoni apparently fit properly.wiseco do a big bore kit to take her out to 1117cc but ya can just fit 1127 pistons for an estimated 160BHP.standard heads on the water cooled models are very good but ya can also fit 38mm 750L carbs which are not too big yet not too small.if ya loose bottom end-mid range on any of these models a 5 degree ignition advancer helps pull it like a train outa corners.also dialling in the stock cams can gain 5BHP alone.also float height is critical when jetting.Sorry to be biased but the K motor is the best GSX-r ever built,ports are perfect size,its extremely strong an very powerful.just ask Ozkat,my standard 89 shits on his 91 even tho i'm a few pounds lighter.:D150Hp is easy to obtain yet it remains rideable.just a shame they fucked up with the susspension.
cheers brother.;)


if ya want the low down on any of these specs just let me know,been studyin this area for a while so be happy to point ya in the wrong direxion.:D

Deano
02-11-2005, 11:18 AM
my preferance would be to run the bike with an airbox with a k&n fitted but if it don't fit i need to explore options, hence this thread.

The only reason i heard about jetting and tuning probs is the guys on old skool suzuki and mentioned it many times, even with the bike on the dyno they still cant get it tuned correctly with pods.

the 750 motor will be coming out tonight and i will be putting in the 1100 over the next few days so i will soon know weather the airbox will fit.

Deano
02-11-2005, 11:18 AM
my preferance would be to run the bike with an airbox with a k&n fitted but if it don't fit i need to explore options, hence this thread.

The only reason i heard about jetting and tuning probs is the guys on old skool suzuki and mentioned it many times, even with the bike on the dyno they still cant get it tuned correctly with pods.

the 750 motor will be coming out tonight and i will be putting in the 1100 over the next few days so i will soon know weather the airbox will fit.

Gix11
02-11-2005, 12:49 PM
Go Tiger!

Gix11
02-11-2005, 12:49 PM
Go Tiger!

gibbo
02-11-2005, 08:40 PM
Way to go Deano! Have fun mate!!!

gibbo
02-11-2005, 08:40 PM
Way to go Deano! Have fun mate!!!

Deano
07-11-2005, 04:10 PM
ok got it all sorted

the airbox fits so it will get used along with a hi flow filter.

it actually is easier to fit with the 1100 motor in the 750 frame than when the 750 motor was in there.
thanks for the advice

Deano
07-11-2005, 04:10 PM
ok got it all sorted

the airbox fits so it will get used along with a hi flow filter.

it actually is easier to fit with the 1100 motor in the 750 frame than when the 750 motor was in there.
thanks for the advice

luke4130
02-01-2006, 05:02 PM
Look at BikeBandit.com and they'll have K&N (part No.RU-2922) dual pod filters to suit your bike at about $157US (postage included) or just go for the BMC's like DAVO suggested. If you can't wait the K&N's. The K&N's for your bike aren't sold in OZ because most people are only after filters to suit the airbox unlike us [xx(] so it's pretty hard to find them for sale.. even on the net.

luke4130
02-01-2006, 05:02 PM
Look at BikeBandit.com and they'll have K&N (part No.RU-2922) dual pod filters to suit your bike at about $157US (postage included) or just go for the BMC's like DAVO suggested. If you can't wait the K&N's. The K&N's for your bike aren't sold in OZ because most people are only after filters to suit the airbox unlike us [xx(] so it's pretty hard to find them for sale.. even on the net.

Deano
03-01-2006, 12:30 PM
Managed to get a pair of BMC pods from Dynobike in Morrabbin and paid $150ea.

I got a mould number off a pair of k and ns that were fitted to the same bike/carb by a guy off OSS and emailed that number to K&n in the states and they said that that mould was only used on 2 different filters and the closest been the RU2922 that you picked out. It was still 10mm to small in the spacings and 2 mm to big in flange diameter. I required 58mm flanges with 85mm centres.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RU-2922

and this is a pic of the bike with the 1100 motor in and the pods fitted.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/images/gallery/suz/deano_gsxr/711.jpg

Deano
03-01-2006, 12:30 PM
Managed to get a pair of BMC pods from Dynobike in Morrabbin and paid $150ea.

I got a mould number off a pair of k and ns that were fitted to the same bike/carb by a guy off OSS and emailed that number to K&n in the states and they said that that mould was only used on 2 different filters and the closest been the RU2922 that you picked out. It was still 10mm to small in the spacings and 2 mm to big in flange diameter. I required 58mm flanges with 85mm centres.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RU-2922

and this is a pic of the bike with the 1100 motor in and the pods fitted.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/images/gallery/suz/deano_gsxr/711.jpg

BOHEMION
03-01-2006, 01:53 PM
Nice work Deano, How well does she go now ?

BOHEMION
03-01-2006, 01:53 PM
Nice work Deano, How well does she go now ?

Deano
03-01-2006, 03:20 PM
pretty good, real chunky mid range. the pod filters sound awesome over 1/2 throttle.
always want more tho.

got another 1100w motor and carbs in the pipeline if the price is right (the guy just gotta did them out from under the bench)
then might have to have a talk to ozkat about the forced induction thing.

Deano
03-01-2006, 03:20 PM
pretty good, real chunky mid range. the pod filters sound awesome over 1/2 throttle.
always want more tho.

got another 1100w motor and carbs in the pipeline if the price is right (the guy just gotta did them out from under the bench)
then might have to have a talk to ozkat about the forced induction thing.

BOHEMION
04-01-2006, 12:37 PM
awesome as mate, can't wait to see/hear her at the fools run

04-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Deano wot did ya do in the jetting area i wood like ta know[?]

04-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Deano wot did ya do in the jetting area i wood like ta know[?]

totaldamage
04-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Deano...I found it,looks good.My rims would look good on that

luke4130
05-01-2006, 09:40 AM
Ah... Deano... I have a 03' r1 seat on order for my bike atm [:0] shit! Looks nice with the polished frame and don't worry. The finish on mine will be quite dissimilar. Whats your opinion on the airpods tho? Has it affected the fuel consumtion that much? Luke.

Deano
05-01-2006, 12:03 PM
mundy - will give you a call

luke - not sure on fuel and realy don't care, but i havn't been on a long ride to find out. I used to get about 190 per tank before i would hit reserve with the 750 motor so will be intresting to see how it goes with 1100 and pods with 142.5main jets.
The pods are great - the induction noise is awesome over about 1/2 throttle. I find myself winding on about 3/4 throttle in top when going from a 60kph to 80 kph zone just to get that induction roar.

Deano
05-01-2006, 12:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by totaldamage

Deano...I found it,looks good.My rims would look good on that


yeah they would look sweeet

Gix11
05-01-2006, 12:15 PM
Ok. Now we need to see these rims. TD, where's the pics?

totaldamage
05-01-2006, 12:25 PM
Gix11 i'll get the pics up soon.I promise